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all right all right all right we are back in the ex- homeschoolers Club I am your host jakeob good and today I am
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joined with the wonderful lovely Julia uh we have known each other for a long long time uh I met her gosh I what did I
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say before I it was like a couple weeks after you moved here from Russia and uh we like were Sim grade in school we
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graduated together we went to prom together we were bands together we uh we did all of all of school together
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basically um so anyway uh thank you for coming on the show it's wonderful to
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have you yeah honored to be here it's really cool that you're doing the podcast well tell me a little bit about
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your homeschool Journey because uh from what I remember uh the first time I met you you hardly spoke any English uh you
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had just gotten here from Russia and you had we had one friend Luda who had also
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moved here from Russia and you guys yeah spoke able to talk to each other but to
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the rest of us like it was a foreign language um but I remember meeting you at group Solutions and uh and you just
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kind of like getting thrown in the group with everybody um and having to figure it out but tell me a little bit about
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that and like what that all look like yeah I think uh it's exactly like you said everything was going so fast too
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when um when I was younger because we were being moved uh from place to place being adopted and all that and not
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knowing the language um but it was also very exciting because we were in a different country and um nobody spoke
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our language and uh it was it was just so cool to have um friends and like it's
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it was sort of like a secret language you know because nobody else could understand us so that was kind of cool
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to look back on now and um I have a lot of great memories I think being homeschooled as well the one thing I
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think that a lot of people didn't get to experience is uh because being homeschooled usually like your parent is
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your teacher with it was not the case with my parents at all okay um my teacher was Mrs Sanchez you know and I
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don't think without her I would have ever done it like she she was she got me
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through it all so that was really cool yeah I was gonna ask you because I mean I've known your family for a long time
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and yeah your mom was always was sick she was battling cancer for a long long time and um and yeah I know that Mrs
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Sanchez was like heavily involved in your guys' schooling but I didn't know
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that she was basically she was teacher for you guys right for me that's how I
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remember it yeah for me she was teacher even when when I was like in a bad mood or whatever she would always like push
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me to do really really well in school and uh back then I totally hated it and I didn't like her for doing that to me
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was like you're a bad you're mean or something I don't know like being
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immature or whatever and stupid and dramatic but now I'm like looking back on it now and I'm so grateful and I'm so
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like I would never been able to push through that without her and I'm like forever grateful to her for sure was she
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also like doing that for your sisters as well not so much for Elena but defin a little bit for Christa
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here and there because like um uh Christa k kind of were like friends and stuff like that so me and
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Luda were friends so that's kind of uh how it worked out and sometimes like Kristal would go with me I think I don't
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know yeah so were you basically going to their house every day for school or or a
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couple days a week kind of a thing I think it was three times a week or something like that and then we would go
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to group Solutions and do like outside classes with other parents that were teaching
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and stuff like that yeah absolutely cu the Sanchez is really they were like the pioneers of group Solutions I remember
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that and uh yeah I'm hoping I'm hoping to get one or both of them on um at some
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point because like I would love to yeah I want to chat uh to them I'm going to
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do a whole season with just like parents um and get their perspective on on things as well um but yeah they group
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Solutions was fantastic because like it gave us kind of an outlet to be I don't
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know my first two years two three years of homeschooling were just so like stuck
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at home and no friends and like I had gone to public school before that and so it's just like I just needed friends and
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group Solutions like became that safe place of like it was like going to regular school for a day you know yeah I
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guess so I guess you're right I never wanted to go to real school my mom made
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me shadow like a private school somebody that went to private school and I actually went to visit I think it was
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Ventura High School and I was so afraid of going I was like no I'm GNA stick
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with homeschooling so that's what I did it's funny how that works too because like yeah by the time
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I was in high school I was like I can't imagine going to public high school like
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I my parents kind of gave me the option or at least it was like discussed a little bit and I was just like why would
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I want to do that I like make my own schedule I can I like work when I want to I can go see friends I can kind of
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like do whatever I was like an adult and especially once we got like old enough to like have driver's license and stuff
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it was like well you're just like you know you're in charge of your life go
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figure it out go get a job go do whatever you know I I can't imagine like giving that up I don't know to go to
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like a public high school I think it was more so like they were just giving me options yeah you know which they did
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with like extracurricular activities as well which was really cool to experience
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for me because um a lot of the things if you add up like kids sports and kids activities they can get really expensive
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over like a long period of time if especially if your kids are doing that you know and I
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don't know how my parents did it but we get to experience so many cool things it
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was insane what kind of like extracurricular stuff were you doing I did a lot of stuff I did like
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taekwan do I did uh ballet I did tap Jazz I did like the plays at the Mitchell's um uh which was was different
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but still I want to include that because it's so fun looking back on it no that
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was like its own it was that that was like its own thing and it's so funny because the the episode at the time of
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recording this the episode that just came out for the podcast was my interview with Nick and it briefly came
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up and I had someone comment who was not a part of our friend group at all just some Rando from the internet commented
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and was like these tell talk more about these backyard plays but um yeah it was basically like theater in the round
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their driveway in the in the middle of their driveway was like this dirt patch I think at one point it was grass but it
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became dirt because we were just walking all over it but yeah they did like Beauty and the Beast uh Lion King I
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remember you having a significant role in Lion King was that oh yeah oh yeah I had definitely a significant role I
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still remember to this day I was Rafiki the baboon you know and so I had like to
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chant in front of like a bunch of people and I remember like screwing up my lines
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pretty bad in the middle of all of that and then I was just like you know what screw it I already screwed up so I'm
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just going to keep going and then and the audience ended up lasing and it was such like a validating feeling for me
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you know yeah so I just kept going and it was great after that and oh man at the time I think I was a little bit
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embarrassed but now it's it's I'm so glad I got to experience it it's so cool
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it's so funny too because like I I don't know I feel like I've known you long
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enough that I feel like I've watched able to watch you like just become like
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a really confident person if that makes sense like yeah and like I I mean like and I mean this in the best way possible
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but like I remember you being very shy initially when you got here and I think it probably had a lot to do with like
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language barrier and stuff but like I remember you being very shy and not outgoing and then I don't know the
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longer I got to know you the the more more you just were you found like your voice as a person and um I don't know I
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just I don't know I'm remembering that play in particular and you had a lot of
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lines and yeah I remember you just like taking charge of them and being awesome at it so you know well thank you I
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appreciate that um yeah I think it's definitely the language barrier about the whole being shy thing because I feel
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like I was really annoying as like a younger kid I was very loud when I would go to
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aana and like stand on the tables and be very loud and scream a lot and like I don't know I mean to be honest like I
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feel like until about junior high high school we probably were a little bit more like surface level friends um I
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don't know I I don't know what the shift was where we became better friends but
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um the band was it the band it was theand it was the band that was you me and Derry right
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yeah it was I think it was just like I really wanted it to be a band but we weren't really gonna go anywhere you
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know but we were a band yeah I remember that and I remember like practicing at your house
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and I I yeah I don't know you would write songs I remember you'd send us
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songs and be like oh can you like put something put some music to this or whatever I'm sure they're probably
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somewhere I'm looking at my my guitar gear over in the corner it's probably
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somewhere buried in all that stuff um or saved on my computer or something but uh
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yeah you used to like write songs and I don't know we just like it was just fun
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we just noodled around on stuff you know if you have anything please send it to me oh my God I want to see because I
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don't remember it I do remember practicing like at at our house but it more turned into like we were just
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chatting about it you know and uh I still can't believe we had a band but I think that's what like brought our
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friendship closer you me and da started to like go out I think and I don't know
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we we had a lot of fun though it was cool and then also we went to church together yes yeah that's true as well
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yeah we all went to reality and so we were a youth group together and I don't
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know we just were around each other a lot I feel like it just kind of was one of those things it
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became I don't know we the same grade we graduated together um yeah which like
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that whole year too like what was cool with like achieve was that like we like our graduating class like they planned
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stuff for us to do like we got to have like senior ditch day and we got to have well I don't I don't know if we had
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senior ditch day but we had like events like I we go to people's houses and we
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do certain things and then we went to Disneyland all together and like just stuff like that we just got that was so
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that was so much fun I was looking at photos of that I I'm gonna proba you'll
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probably see it on Instagram but I had a photo of uh I want to say it was all of
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us but it was most of us at Disneyland I think we're in line for Space Mountain
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um Al together but I have very fond memories of that and what's cool I don't
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know if you remember this or not but Mr and Mrs y were the ones who took us on the Disneyland trip and we got there
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and I think all of us were a little worried that they were going to just like stick with us the whole day and
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they just said like go have your own fun don't bug us we're going to go have our
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own Disneyland day just the two of us and uh we'll see you at the end of the
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day at the car and they just kind of let us like go do whatever we wanted for the
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whole day at Disneyland wow that's so cool of them I didn't know not until now
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at least and I that's amazing I would have never let my kids go online like that too terrifying the other major
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thing that happened uh with us we went to prom together which uh I don't know
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about you I went to two H school promps I went with Carrie um and then I went with you and
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uh we I think ours was on a fairy boat if I'm not mistaken yeah I think um wasn't some
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school put it on yeah I think it was Calvary Chapel um the Calvary Chapel School which was like kind of homeschool
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adjacent was resp and um yeah we went was really fun I thought that was a really cool song I
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yeah I remember it being a lot of fun and I remember yeah going out in the water I danced with a lot of like my
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girlfriends there I don't think I've ever danced in my life before so that
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was a that was a fun experience I've been to like a lot of proms too and I think um that one was probably the best
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one um I think I went to like three or three different Broms or something I don't know I don't remember also The
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Homeschool dances we have to talk about those because oh my gosh uh I feel like everybody else's parents made them go or
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is that wrong I don't know my mom made me take dance lessons I think when I was
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about 12 maybe 13 and I didn't like it at first the first dance I ever went to
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was at the pet house I danced with one girl and it was because it they dragged me to the dance floor um to do it um but
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but after that I think I was pretty sold on the whole thing um so yeah I mean my
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parents didn't have to drag me there because I wanted to go but I do know some kids that got dragged there were
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you one of those kids no but you know as growing up I the impression that I got from like majority of the family is like
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oh you have to be here or something or that their parents made them go whether it was church or or like
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or um a d a homeschool dance or something like that and then my mom would always joke about going to the
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dances break all of the dress codes she's like yeah I'm GNA show up with a
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spaghetti strap and see what the mom say and we would just laugh about it it was so great yeah your mom was
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definitely a a troublemaker type person yeah no for sure but you know that's
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what we love most about her yes absolutely absolutely so tell me a little bit about like post homeschool
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years and like what like what are you doing now what's life like I knew you're
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married you got kids you know what's like what's going on what's going on I'm
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a stay-at-home mom now which is crazy um from anybody that knows me at least it's crazy because I like
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basically never babysat in my life so uh I have about like six kids wow so it's a lot of kids we have like a
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little Frenchy dog too and um it's a really beautiful family all the little girls and they always want to like
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they're very affectionate and loving towards one another and towards like their
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siblings and and and to me and Dad obviously and and it's so cool to just watch because I
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I wasn't that I wasn't that little when I first came to America you know so and
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it's weird it's honestly weird having kids and it's like a little piece of you
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just walking out and about yeah and and um it's it's crazy to watch them grow up
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and I feel like I understand parents better now like my own parents and stuff and um there're it's so weird because
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like now I call my dad and ask him like oh what do you what do I do about this or what do you think and like ask him
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for real advice when I would never do that if I was like in high school or whatever you know yeah so it's something
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really special and yeah I got married in like February so that was really cool congratulations thank you um so that's
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what I'm doing now what are the what are the age ranges on your guys' kids so the oldest is 13 that's my
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stepson and um my other ones are both of them are eight so um two eight-year-olds and a five-year-old a
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three-year-old and a one-year-old wow wow you got you got the gamra yeah but you know what I just take
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them all to the park uh because they have some amazing Parks here in San Diego and I take them to like the
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swimming pool and there's so much fun there's so much fun to hang out with
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they we always play video games now and it's amazing I love it and I feel like
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it's it's so much fun that's so cool well and like I don't know what the what
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are what the school is looking like but you know I mean school is practically back in session if not in session at
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this point so but I'm sure like summer is like super fun where it's just like
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everybody's at home and man that sounds like so fun oh my gosh I'm I'm having flashbacks to I used
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to babysit for a family and they I think had eight kids if I'm not mistaken and
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my sister and I we would tag team baby sitting and she would handle the girls which there was only two of and then I
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got the boys which it was just like Legos and Star Wars and video games and movies and stuff but it was so much fun
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to to do that and so I I can only imagine um what your house be like we have four girls and two boys but all of
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them play video games nice we like all do it together as a family too sometimes that's so fun that's so fun do you guys
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have like a game in particular that's like the game uh Call of Duty okay zombies yeah I
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love that yeah we love it Call of Duty anything pretty much but mostly right now it's the zombies yeah that's awesome
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oh my gosh that's so much fun the last time my folks were in town uh we play we
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got them to play video games and we taught them how to play Mario Kart and how to play Mario Party and uh it was
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just so funny because they haven't played video games in like so long and so um we kind of got
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them yeah like we it's funny because so there's a retro arcade here that um we
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took them to and so it's like all of the old arcade games right and so they were
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like crushing at Pac-Man and centipede and like all of that stuff and I'm sitting there going oh my gosh how can
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you play these like they're so ancient um it's fun but I'm like no good at them
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and they're super good and then I was like okay well now you got to play my video
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games you know um and so yeah but once you put them into Mario Kart they're like wait what do I do again how do I
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turn the wheel you know all that stuff but um no but video games are so much fun yeah it is it's definitely awesome I
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love it too I I'm so glad your parents played with you that's amazing so are you I'm assuming you're not
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homeschooling your kids but um but did you think about it or are you homeschooling your kids you know I me
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and my oldest daughter who is eight years old turning nine soon we talked about homeschooling she's
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like I want to be homeschooled because I want to spend more time with my family and I was like yeah that would be cool
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but and I think it would be great if I had the patience to do it I will do it because there was a period of time where
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I was frightful for my like for my kid and not that anything happened but like you know when there there was like a
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period where the shootings were happening and stuff like that and so sending your kid to public school and
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like having them um I don't know go through that that's fening and I don't
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want my kid to go through that too you know so I think that's when I was thinking about homeschooling but then I
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was like I probably couldn't do it you know I don't know I maybe I'm just
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doubting myself though who knows I mean it's it's not for everybody but also it's like I don't know I I feel
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like it's so much different I remember my mom I I was talking to her this week
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about it because it was like how did you pick curriculum like how did you decide
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on that and she was just like you just kind of you know you went to the the conf confence and they had all the
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different things and you just picked one and you just hoped it was okay and then
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maybe the next year it was like this didn't really work let's try something
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different kind of a thing but then you you figure it out after a while you're
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like oh this particular math works and this science works and that you know what history lessons work or whatever um
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so I I don't know I mean I know she was she was kind of freaked out when she
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started home she started homeschooling me I was 8 years old so I was your daughter's age when I was when I started
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and uh it was a rough couple years to begin with because we just had to figure it out
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but I don't know I think there's some pros to to public school as well and I
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don't know you also it just seems like you guys are so involved in like your
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kids lives that I think regardless of whether you homeschool them or public school or private school or any anything
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I think they're just going to remember like Mom and Dad like loved us and were
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involved and wanted to know what was going on and like help us with homework and stuff like that and I think that's I
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don't know I like that's what goes the distance you know what I mean like you
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were talking about with Mrs Sanchez like you just remember her pushing you to be
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better yeah Mrs Sanchez was the one one of the reasons why I went to Mrs Sanchez
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and when my mom like or I guess they made an arrangement or something where she was my my teacher I
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don't know um one of the reasons was because me and my mom were bickering oh okay yeah exactly and
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that's probably cuz she didn't have no patience for me so I'm like relatable I feel you
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there do you feel like uh do you feel like you guys fought because I don't know I hear this all the time where it's
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like the people who don't get along typically it's because they're so
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similar that they like they Clash a little bit like they kind of have I I don't know well what what let me explain
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this okay so like I'm whether you believe in star sign not I'm a Leo which
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means certain things yeah and I know our birthdays are really close to each other
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but yeah so like you kind of have those like dominant leadership personas like kind of exist within you which can make
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you kind of strong willed hard-headed kind of a person and uh and you pair that with another Leo and sometimes it's
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just like o it's bad or like even my wife my wife is a Scorpio and like it is
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it sometimes is head-on coll with that one um but we love each other it's just
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sometimes sometimes it's just you know it's just those Wills you know get you
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know they get in the way do you feel like maybe that was like why you and your mom were kind of like at each other
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it's weird it's weird that you say that and bring that up because like a lot of
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her friends have mentioned the similarities I never really seen like I've never seen that before
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but I have gotten that before from some of her friends like they seen they have seen certain similarities between me and
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my mom even though we're not you know I'm adopted and and I take it as a compliment though
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I think that there's definitely where I can relate with my mom is the rebellious
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side of her yeah that's where we connect I think I don't know I feel that where we have bonded
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actually when I was younger one of the ways that we bonded was um was we played a game called uh well
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we called it it was just our own little game we called it top that sin okay and uh that was where she would tell me like
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her stuff when she did when she was younger like her rebellious phase or whatever the stories that she would tell
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me and then that was my way of telling her what I did wrong like during the week or whatever and that's how I would
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confess to her so we would play this game called top that soon I don't know if that makes sense but no that totally
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makes sense oh my gosh that's that's hilarious I it's really weird that's so
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fun so like if your mom was like oh I don't know I snuck out when I was 16 and
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went to my boyfriend's house then you had to like top it somehow and be like
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well I did that and did this pretty much pretty much yeah it was kind of funny funny looking back I was totally I
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think at the time I it was my my way of like confessing to her and like feeling safe like oh this is where I did
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something wrong or I think it's wrong like um what I don't know what do you
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think or what do I do I didn't know what to do so I was like panicking yeah well
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that's interesting too cuz it was it like what obviously I mean nobody wants
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to tell their parent that they like did something wrong especially because like fear of punishment but like what did
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like was there punishment involved after that or was it like no this is like a safe place and then we're going to like
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talk about it and maybe how you could have handled it differently like what what was that like that's a good
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question so another thing is with my parents I didn't really get grounded I feel like a lot even when I would do
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something bad which I don't understand but it was more so like let's sit down
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and talk about it all together which would would make me even more nervous you know because then my dad would be
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like Julia and then let's come in my room and let's talk and then we talk
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about the problem and it would be so like awkward and we would all be sitting there and actually like confronting the
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issue and I was so not not used to that you know yeah dang that's so that's so
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different my man I my family we talked but like I don't know I just I have more memories
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of like my getting in trouble and my dad being like you're coming to work with me
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and then he would hand me to like the janitor or like uh one of like the guys who worked in the mail room or something
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and be like I don't know give him some job to do and I would like scrub out the
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the refrigerator at work that was like caked and soda and moldy food and stuff like that like there was like I don't
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know like it's just so it's so different I don't know like I love it though I
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love it like I'm very like Pro open communication and like hey let's discuss
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it let's figure out like you know is it makes a kid nervous yeah for sure if
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both parents are like come sit down and talk to me I think it definitely makes it K
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nervous oh yeah absolutely I can't imagine I still get nervous my parents are like oh we need to have a talk I'm
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like about what like I know I can't even say a bad word in front of my dad I
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can't I just can't do it yeah the it's oh my gosh my the first time I cussed in
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front of my parents like post I don't know being as being an adult I remember kind of being like just
00:28:10
subtly like slipping like in there just kind of you just test the waters a little bit and then it was like they
00:28:17
didn't really say anything about it and I was like okay okay and then the first
00:28:21
time I used the f word around them I was like and and it just kind of test the waters a little bit and and what's
00:28:27
funny is uh my mom my mom cussed at us when we were kids um quite a bit and um so I so I was like she's like I can't
00:28:37
deny like you learned it from me it's not like it's not like we went out and
00:28:43
you know and then we came back and she's like where did you learn this language
00:28:46
it's like she's like I know where you learned how to talk like this um but uh
00:28:51
yeah so it's funny it's just one of those things now we as a family we talk
00:28:54
about we're like hey sometimes you just got to let it out you know you just got
00:28:57
to you know also there's studies that show that uh more intelligent people actually use cuss wordss so you know I
00:29:04
just tell people I'm a genius so so using that next time that's hilarious oh man I I do that too though
00:29:15
it's hard not to nowadays you know because I feel like everybody does so it's hard to avoid it it is hard it is
00:29:22
hard to avoid it but yeah you can just yeah tell people you're a genius and it's harder with little kids I'm sure
00:29:28
because you know we don't want three-year-olds necessarily always walking around saying certain things but
00:29:34
yeah but you know um anyway oh my gosh well I I'm so like it's so great to
00:29:40
catch up with you because like I've missed you it's been a long time since
00:29:43
we've seen each other I want to say the last time I saw you was your your 8-year-old was like a baby like just
00:29:51
born kind of yeah yeah that's Jazzy was like I don't know yeah she was probably
00:29:58
just like born huh probably I mean I remember her being in like a stroller wasn't your mom at my baby shower I
00:30:05
think so it's possible cuz you had her I was in college when you had her and so
00:30:11
funny enough I remember when after my freshman year talking to you on the phone you I had texted you to be like
00:30:18
hey I'm going to be home for like the summer or something and uh we should like hang out and you were like I have
00:30:24
something like I'm excited to see you and like I have something to tell you and I was like okay and then and I was
00:30:30
like well what is it and you're like you have to wait till you get here and uh
00:30:33
and I was like okay and then a couple minutes later you text me and you're like can I just call you I can't I can't
00:30:38
wait to tell you or whatever and then you called me and you were like I'm pregnant and I was like oh wow I was
00:30:43
like okay um and uh I don't know it was so exciting and um you know I know that
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was like its own uh thing of itself but but I'm you know I I don't know I love I
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love that you became a mom and you know and you're a great mom so thank you H
00:31:04
thank you so much I really appreciate that I'm definitely uh still learning it's a
00:31:11
learning thing I swear and also like oh man I'm so I'm it's so it's s so
00:31:18
challenging too it's crazy yeah yeah people don't warn you about this at all
00:31:26
it's it's wild they're just talk about about how cute babies are and stuff like
00:31:29
that but they don't warn you about motherhood it's really the hood yeah for real part of the uh yeah
00:31:39
the the motherhood gang um man that's so funny um yeah I mean I I I answer I
00:31:48
asked all the questions I had for you I didn't know if there was any stories
00:31:52
that you had thought of to to share or anything like that but um yeah I no I think I think we covered all the bases
00:32:00
yeah very cool well thank you so much for coming on I've I've loved catching
00:32:04
up with you and I promise uh I Won't Wait Another like nineish years to uh Nish years to reach out um because yeah
00:32:14
and uh I know we were talking at one point about doing a reunion um so hopefully we can get enough
00:32:19
homeschoolers and do some kind of reunion at some point and uh catch up with everybody cuz that's like I would
00:32:25
love that I think that' be so much fun but again thank you so much for coming
00:32:29
on and being just like open to to talking and sharing and yeah you know no of course of course it's an honor to be
00:32:36
part of your cool podcast seriously I'm excited and um I can't wait to see where
00:32:42
it goes seriously and I'm honored to be a part of it it's a big deal of course you had
00:32:47
to be you had to be uh well yeah this has been the XOM scho pod uh if you liked what you heard um I would love if
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00:33:13
Julia once again thank you so much for coming on and until next time later [Music]