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Gary welcome to the club welcome to
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you've been a part of this club for a
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while now Club welcome to ex
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homeschoolers Club
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um you've been like one of my best
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friends for the longest time uh we've
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known each other since we were like 10
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or 11 something like that we met at aana
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and uh aana or is it a wanas I don't
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know does it exist anymore who knows
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good question good question if anyone
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does know what it is it basically was
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like Bible Boy Scouts Bible boy and girl
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that's such a good way to describe it
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yeah yeah like during the middle of the
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week and yeah we would like learn
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scripture and like recite scripture and
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get marit badge type stuff and do
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Pinewood Derpy and play games and um but
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it was like co-ed it was like boys and
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girls uh together so anyway that's I
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know that's how we met
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originally I think right
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I honestly don't remember meeting you
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there no I remember I really don't
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remember where we met I just assume I
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have a bad memory but I just assume I
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met all of my homeschool friends at like
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Park days or like Co-op meetings but I
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don't have like a specific memory of
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where I met most people okay yeah so it
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could have been A's I mean it probably
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was aana honestly yeah I guess some
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homeschoolers that was a big hub for
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like a lot of The Homeschool Community
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was like you know uh yeah cuz it was
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like local and at a church and of course
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everybody loved to church um so but yeah
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but we like have known each other for
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what it's like almost like 18 years at
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this point something like that something
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like that we're heading into 30s soon um
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can't wait I can't wait full-fledged
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adults but um yeah well I'm glad you're
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here and um me too we so tell me tell me
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a little bit about like being a
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homeschool kid like were you
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homeschooled all the way through I know
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you've got siblings were they also
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homeschooled all the way through um do
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you know why your parents decided to
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homeschool you that kind of stuff like
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tell us a little bit about like growing
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up as a homeschool kid that's good um
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yes homeschooled my entire life and I
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think all my siblings were but it kind
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of depends on how you define
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homeschooling because I was homeschooled
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for every grade right right so I did all
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of them but then some of my siblings and
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friends just stopped doing school at
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home at like 14 or 15 and just started
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going to college and so I don't know if
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you would consider them being
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homeschooled like their whole lives
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because like for high school they
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weren't homeschooled they were College
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schooled right you they were like
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Geniuses so they you know tested out of
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everything I was not a genius um yeah I
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also went I didn't go all the way
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through I did second grade through high
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school but um so I did have a taste I
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did yeah I had a taste of like regular
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school life so those first couple years
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of homeschooling were super tough for me
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because I already knew what it was like
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to be around your friends every day and
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like go to class and then go to lunch
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and go do all these different things so
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then all of a sudden it was just like
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I'm at home all day long with my
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mom we were renovating the house kind of
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a thing so it was like just not a
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conducive place to be like learning and
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my mom wanted to like kill us all the
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time and like it was just stressful it
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was just like stressful life stuff going
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on at all periods right um and so then
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she started meeting parents like like
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your parents and and other homeschool
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parents and they like seem so much more
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like together with like oh yeah we have
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this structure and this plan and maybe
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that's not the reality of what was going
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on but it seemed so much more structured
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and then you know and then we started
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being friends right so then it's like
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okay now I don't feel alone anymore like
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I have kind of a class room experience
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again to some degree yeah yeah yep so
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homeschooled my whole life life siblings
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homeschooled SL col and technically I
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did go to college for the last uh
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semester of my senior year so I did half
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of my senior year and then I did some
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school at home for the last half of that
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senior year and then some of my classes
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were out of college so kind of half and
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half but it was really just for one
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semester when I was 17 um and that was
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traumatic but it was it was good still
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too like I needed it to happen um yeah
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but yeah a little bit traumatic and then
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why I was homeschooled I really have
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never asked my parents that question I
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would assume for several different
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reasons my grandparents started one of
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the most popular homeschooling schools
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back in the 70s or 80s or something like
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that okay um so they were like the
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pioneers of homeschooling like down in
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San Diego LA area uh Grace Christian
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School is the school they started and
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it's like still around today that was
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like their main job is they just managed
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a giant Co-op of like curriculum and and
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students all over I guess the Southern
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California area and other people I think
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like were a part of it too outside of
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California but majority I think was in
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California I don't really know how it
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works never really asked a lot of
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questions because I never really been
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super interested in that but um yeah so
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my my mom was
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homeschooled um and then I guess my
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parents from what I know they just
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talked about it and they're like yeah
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like based off of
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some religious ideas as well as some uh
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social biases um on top of I have
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dyslexia and I was the first child so I
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think they went that route because of
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that um just some of my struggles as
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like a you know four or fiveyear old
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they decided to home school but again
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I've never like directly asked them but
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I think that's mostly why and I think
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that's a a pretty Amar sentiment for
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most parents that homeschooled around
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that time were for a mix of some of
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those reasons that's what I was going to
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say is like I feel like in talking to
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friends and then like as I've been
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prepping to do this podcast and like
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talking to my folks and other homeschool
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parents it's like why did you do this
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like and it tends to be religion and
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also my child has I hate to say a
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learning disability but I mean that's
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kind of that is what it's labeled but
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it's a learning difference right and so
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putting them in a traditional classroom
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is just not going to be conducive to
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them actually being the the smart person
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that they are right yeah that's crazy
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that you're you're I didn't know your
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mom was homeschooled and you know and
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that your grandparents kind of like not
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pushed her into that but like were you
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know had raised her in that and then
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were had done the school because my
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grandparents were kind of the Catalyst
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for my parents even thinking about
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homeschooling because my grandma was
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just very obsessed with this idea of
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like hey you need to bring education to
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your house you need to all these things
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and so she would my mom like books and
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articles and all this stuff and my mom
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was like why would I ever want to do
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that like I have you know like you send
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the kids off to school they go to school
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I get to do my thing I get to watch
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Oprah and then the kids come home and
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then you know we go grocery shopping
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whatever and so yeah so that shift for
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her was like really hard because she had
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never done that before you know she was
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um even though she had gone to school to
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be a
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teacher she was like at that point she
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was like I'm not going to teach like
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this is you know I'm stay home Mom
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that's that's my that's my job so so you
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have you have three siblings um and so
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like and you guys are spaced out pretty
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decent right I mean there's what like a
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threeyear gap between each of you
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roughly yeah I mean something like that
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between each of them uh more or less a
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year and a half between me and my sister
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and then the Gap gets bigger from
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there child so let me ask you this
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because like I know because my sister
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and I are three years apart
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and there were certain points where I
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feel like we were doing like the same
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school workor was that like true in your
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house too where it was like you know
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we're like all in the same class like
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yeah there are certain things like
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usually with things like math right
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you're maybe at a higher level the older
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you are but like other things it was
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like we're just all at the same level
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was that kind of a reality at your house
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there's definitely some uh some aspects
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of that like if there's you know you're
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going to go on a nature walk together
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and learn about olog something like that
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like you're going to go together so you
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can kind of kill two birds with one
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stone when it came to a lot of the
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curriculum like you said on the more I
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guess strenuous topics like math and
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history and stuff it would usually be
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separate but there was some like social
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studies stuff that was together home
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economic stuff that was together I guess
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things you could just teach kids
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together they were together especially
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with me and my sister only being
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one or two grades apart at a time time
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uh yeah it would sometimes overlap
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because we weren't we it was hard like
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we weren't just one grade necessarily
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like we would be different grades in
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different subjects based off of where we
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tested at that's like how the school did
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it so like if you excelled in one area
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you were like a higher grade in that
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area and if you like needed help in a
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different area you would just be lower
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yeah and so yeah we were in different
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places I guess at times but so some
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stuff we do together most stuff we
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wouldn't do together yeah I don't yeah
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no I I feel you yeah cuz it was the same
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it was the same at my house yeah there
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was certain yeah nature walk or we're
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going to go do this it's like yeah
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you're all together and then yeah same
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deal it's like if you're dumb in this
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area I don't want to say dumb if you
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were lower in this level like you know
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you just sat where you sat right it's
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just like you just you just made it
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happen and it wasn't until really high
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school where my parents were like no you
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got to be like at these levels right
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it's like you know High School is a set
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predetermined like you're going to do
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algebra albra 2 geometry you know kind
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of a thing and these specific Sciences
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um that was mostly because I was heading
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towards college and so it was like you
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kind of I needed those things to to get
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into college right um and that's I think
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one of the things a lot of people worry
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about with like their kids is
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like like getting canah home school
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could get into college the answer is
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obviously yes we both went to college
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yeah um you know so obviously yes and
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we're both brilliant um not to toot our
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own heart but we're Geniuses absolutely
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yeah Mak money we could definitely put a
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man on the moon if we tried hard
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enough had enough money yeah yeah and
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and we have enough money yeah I mean we
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bring back NASA it's not a problem um
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easy did you ever have an experience let
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me phrase it like this did you ever have
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an experience where you kind of realize
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like I'm a homeschool kid and like I'm
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the weird one out where you're like
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you know maybe you're around non
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homeschool kids public school kids
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whatever and you realize like oh shoot
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like I'm the odd man out in this
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situation like I'm the
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weirdo I think that was the most real
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lived experience of my entire like
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childhood all of the time like it was
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the main thing that I was concerned with
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all of the time I let me think about the
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first time I ever experienced that
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because I would experience that Weekly
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yeah um it doesn't have to be the first
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time but I just remember like even going
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getting to college I quit telling people
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that I was a homeschool kid because I
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instantly got the like oh that makes
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sense and I was like I hated that that
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answer right it's like because then you
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feel you're like I already feel so
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self-conscious right and then you you
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tell somebody this thing about yourself
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and then they're like oh well yeah that
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that checks out like you're a weirdo you
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know the thing is there are
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homeschoolers like there's people I meet
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and it's so easy to smell homeschooler
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like yeah I I've met so many people and
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I feel like I'm so good at guessing
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who's homeschooled and who's not does
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they they can be completely normal like
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wearing completely normal clothes acting
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normally it just there's something
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that's that happens to you when you're
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homeschooled that you forever just smell
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that way to people um and so I'll meet
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people from just across the world and i'
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be like you were homeschooled weren't
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you they be like how did you know I was
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like I don't know how I knew like you
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can just tell but there there are public
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school kids that smell like that a
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little bit um for for different reasons
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um but anyways uh back on track a little
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bit I think when I
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was six or seven and the the main thing
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for me I think that that I felt
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differentiated in wasn't necessarily
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that I was a homeschooler but more so
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was that I struggled reading at like a
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really young age and so when everybody
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else was like able to read I was like
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you know six or seven or whatever and I
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just struggled with it a lot and I think
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in my mind just as I'm thinking the
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first time I felt that way I
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was five or six and was still like
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struggling like to to grasp some of the
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elementary like concepts of reading and
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I had this like workbook I was going
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through and all I had to do was read the
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sentences on one page and that would
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take me probably like half an hour or
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something like that like a long time and
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I remember I had a friend who was two
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years older than me that like lived on
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my
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block and he would come over and he'd be
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like can da play right now um which is
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also kind of strange for like a
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nine-year-old to be asking a
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six-year-old to play but whatever um I
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guess not that weird so he would ask me
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to play and I'd be like I can't like I
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have to work on this like page I'm
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reading and he'd be like well let me do
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it for you and he just like read it in
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like a minute and I'd be like awesome
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like I can't do that right you feel dumb
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right you're just like oh shoot yeah
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part of it was that he was older but you
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know when you're when you're six like
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you can't really differentiate age that
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well it's just mostly on skill and
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you're like Frick I just don't have this
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skill that everybody else does and so
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there was that aspect but of course
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there's kids that they realize you're
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homeschool because you just don't know
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what social norms are most of the time
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you have like just a built-in autism
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that yeah is just automatic that I don't
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know uh and you just don't know social
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cues so there's definitely a period
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where you think things are normal
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because you just grew up with your
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parents and maybe your friends in your
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neighborhood and then you go to church
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or camp or some social event and you
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meet other kids and they immediately
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know you're weird and they you know
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their kids they tell you immediately
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that you're weird and you're like oh my
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God like my world be was falling apart I
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don't know what to do yeah 100% so I had
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that pretty young and and and the the
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reading thing combined with uh just not
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being super socially Adept at the
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beginning created like a a hyper
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fixation with having to be accepted so
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that I could be loved um in me and uh
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I think I became pretty normal but I
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became pretty normal because I had
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massive amounts of anxiety about being
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normal every day and I don't know why
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that was just projection at the young
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age from kids I wanted be friends or
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something like that um stems from I
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totally agree with that and I I
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understand that because like I said when
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I got to college I had a couple people
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be like they could sniff it out right
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and that had happened before like people
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had been like oh well yeah you're
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obviously a homeschool kid and
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thankfully I had a professor who sat me
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down and was just like yo you got to
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learn to chill out and I was like what
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does that mean and she's like you just
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got to be a good hang like just know how
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to just be in the room and just like
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listen and be cool and like
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don't be the pck me like just be there
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like you know you're too cool for school
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kind of a thing and and that was a big
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shift for me
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because like you said as a homeschool
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kid like you want when you get to those
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events that are like a church event or
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camp or whatever and all the other kids
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already know each other because they all
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go to school together they're all
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friends and they automatically pick you
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out as the weird one because they've
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never seen you before right and then
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they're like well why have I never seen
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you at school well because I do school
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at home well why do you do school at
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home well that's weird you know and and
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right and so if you can learn to kind of
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like just be cool and exist in that you
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know Universe it's it got it got it gets
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easier let's just say that it gets so
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much easier and you know one of the
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things that I think was good by the time
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we were like in High School junior high
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too was that there was a lot more
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Community within the homeschool like
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group like I don't know if it was this
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way for you or not but like in the early
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years of being a homeschool kid there's
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it's a lot of isolation at least for me
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it was where we're just at home for like
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days at a time you know and go out to go
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grocery shopping but there's no friends
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there's you know there's the kid on the
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Block but like you don't have friends
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you know you don't have other kids who
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relate to you in any way but by the time
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we were in high school it was like okay
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the the hes School community in our
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hometown like was big it was it was
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thriving it was huge it was huge yeah it
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was huge um yeah I talked to kids who
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yeah they had nothing and you know they
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grew up in like a farm town or something
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and it's like right for them to have
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friends is like ridiculously hard where
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it's like we lived five minutes down the
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street from each other you know like
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yeah once we got a driver's license it's
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like we just come over yeah exactly
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that's crazy speaking of the uh I guess
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learning how to be normal in social
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situations I this has got to be the
00:17:57
perfect example of of what you're
00:17:59
talking about um I guess combining
00:18:01
actually the last two things you talked
00:18:02
about I was in Thailand one time and
00:18:06
there was this kid that was the son of
00:18:11
like a missionary that was there and I
00:18:13
wasn't staying with them or I didn't
00:18:16
know them nothing right I was in a hotel
00:18:19
I was in a hotel lobby and I guess this
00:18:23
kid's a white kid and I was a white
00:18:25
person in Thailand by myself and so I'm
00:18:28
just sitting in the lobby at at 12:30
00:18:32
p.m. sorry a.m. like at night like in
00:18:34
the middle of the night I'm just like
00:18:36
watching YouTube video there's nobody
00:18:37
else there and this kid like comes down
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or like comes in the room and there's
00:18:43
like a few chairs in this Lobby or
00:18:44
whatever and he walk he sees me and
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walks directly over and sits down across
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from me and stares directly at me and I
00:18:52
felt like he was going to try to kill me
00:18:54
or something like that like it's the
00:18:56
middle of the night and this like
00:18:57
12-year-old just has all the confidence
00:18:59
in the world and he just sitting across
00:19:01
from me like he doesn't know who I am
00:19:03
and we're in a foreign country like he
00:19:05
just has all this
00:19:06
confidence
00:19:08
and and he goes what are you
00:19:11
doing and I had headphones inside I take
00:19:14
a headphone I was like I'm watching
00:19:16
YouTube and he goes you would be
00:19:19
watching YouTube wouldn't you and I was
00:19:22
like all right I put my headb back in
00:19:26
and I Tred my best to ignore him uh but
00:19:28
eventually we start talking and he's
00:19:29
just a homeschool kid who lives there
00:19:31
he's like there from China or something
00:19:33
um but just like the the sheer like just
00:19:37
they have no idea how to act and you
00:19:40
either have that stupid confidence where
00:19:41
you just can't be normal and no one
00:19:43
wants to be around you because you have
00:19:44
so much confidence or you're so anxiety
00:19:48
written that you can't speak at all like
00:19:50
yeah the two extremes of course but I
00:19:53
meet people like that all the time it's
00:19:54
crazy it's honestly stresses me out but
00:19:56
because we grew up in it too there's so
00:19:58
much
00:19:59
understanding and empathy and Grace for
00:20:00
those who are struggling with it still
00:20:03
absolutely yeah I know homeschool family
00:20:05
here that I've started like connecting
00:20:07
with a little bit and I picked them out
00:20:10
of the crowd so fast and I was like oh
00:20:14
my gosh I I understand and I relate and
00:20:17
like let me go talk to you and like be
00:20:19
your friend and stuff because awesome
00:20:23
it's not to like let me whight my way
00:20:25
into your life and save you or whatever
00:20:27
but like the goal of this show and the
00:20:30
goal of having conversations like this
00:20:32
is like one it's so funny to like talk
00:20:34
about growing up and like you know talk
00:20:36
about the awkwardness and all those
00:20:38
things but like it gets better right and
00:20:41
so yeah the goal is that there's The
00:20:43
Good the Bad and the Ugly right there's
00:20:45
the good stuff that happened from being
00:20:47
homeschooled like the ability to go to
00:20:49
college early right like the ability to
00:20:52
you know have close relationships with
00:20:54
family and friends um during times when
00:20:58
normally you would be in a school
00:20:59
environment right um there's the bad
00:21:03
stuff for some people where it's like
00:21:04
Mom and Dad really had no idea what they
00:21:06
were doing and they were just kind of
00:21:07
like winging it um and hoping that we
00:21:10
were smart enough to catch on you know
00:21:13
and then of course there's there's
00:21:15
sometimes the ugly of like the traumatic
00:21:17
like you said anxiety of like I need to
00:21:19
be accepted right um I had that too I
00:21:23
looking back I still have that you know
00:21:25
and that's like a traum piece that we
00:21:27
carry with us and we you know when we go
00:21:29
into a room it's like if no one's
00:21:30
talking to me like I'm the odd man out
00:21:32
that's just the reality of like how I
00:21:35
walk into a room is I know I'm the odd
00:21:37
person out
00:21:39
automatically um everyone else in here
00:21:41
is normal and it's not until you kind of
00:21:43
put yourself out there and have that
00:21:44
confidence to go just go talk to
00:21:47
somebody um you mentioned kind of like
00:21:50
growing up with dyslexia and like being
00:21:52
at a young age and like you know the
00:21:55
neighbor kid comes over and he just
00:21:56
reads it and you just you're like I feel
00:21:58
stupid like I feel so dumb so like and
00:22:01
we talked a little bit about like Mom
00:22:03
and Dad potentially picking
00:22:04
homeschooling as a way to kind of like
00:22:07
you know give you an education that was
00:22:08
more tailored towards that struggle so
00:22:12
talk a little bit about that like talk
00:22:14
about some of like the struggle but like
00:22:18
what are like tips and tricks that
00:22:20
you've learned like to kind of like come
00:22:22
back that and like um you know cuz I'm
00:22:25
not dyslexic so the the way that people
00:22:28
explain in it to me is that like if you
00:22:29
look at a page in a book it's just like
00:22:32
moving letters basically and maybe
00:22:35
that's not super accurate but like
00:22:37
flipping certain letters to have other
00:22:39
sounds and things like that and so you
00:22:41
know is there anything out there that's
00:22:43
like helped you kind of because you're
00:22:45
an adult you live on your own you know
00:22:46
you're totally sufficient um yeah talk
00:22:50
about that yeah first off there's from
00:22:54
my knowledge I had a a specialist tell
00:22:56
me this one time that's the only thing
00:22:57
I'm going off of
00:22:59
they said that there's hundreds of
00:23:00
different types of Dyslexia it's
00:23:03
technically just a coding issue with
00:23:05
your mind like how fast um or how
00:23:07
different you decode shapes and so
00:23:10
that's why you can get it with like
00:23:11
numbers and stuff too just calcula or
00:23:13
whatever the name is
00:23:15
um but I don't necessarily see the
00:23:19
letters moving around the page I just
00:23:22
have a really hard time like focusing
00:23:25
like on certain words and like getting
00:23:28
the meaning from them so it just takes
00:23:29
me a lot longer to like decode the
00:23:32
meaning specifically just from letters
00:23:34
um which is weird because like I'm
00:23:35
really good like a geometry like I did
00:23:38
when I was homeschool I did geometry in
00:23:40
like two months like I just finished it
00:23:42
super fast so it's not necessarily like
00:23:45
all like shapes or symbols are hard for
00:23:48
me to decode but just specifically uh
00:23:50
words for some reason because I was also
00:23:52
good at math and stuff growing up and in
00:23:55
college anyways so that's just I guess
00:23:58
my
00:23:59
type of um of
00:24:01
Dyslexia things that help me I mean I
00:24:05
really don't know if homeschooling
00:24:07
helped me I think it did give me some
00:24:11
like space to breathe and grow and try
00:24:14
to uh like learn on my own without the
00:24:16
pressure of like kids around me um
00:24:19
making fun of me as much but at the same
00:24:23
time I just thought it was stupid for my
00:24:26
whole life until I got to college and
00:24:27
then
00:24:28
as soon as I got to college and like
00:24:30
just started getting A's and stuff in my
00:24:32
classes I was like oh like because I had
00:24:35
to work so much harder at learning this
00:24:37
thing I just have a way better work
00:24:38
ethic when it comes to school so I'm
00:24:40
just actually trying in these classes
00:24:42
when no one else is really and getting
00:24:44
good grades because I'm trying harder
00:24:45
not necessarily because I'm like way
00:24:47
smarter and so I don't know I don't know
00:24:50
necessarily what helped me and what
00:24:52
didn't help me would I have been the
00:24:54
same person if I went to public school
00:24:56
maybe maybe I would have had different
00:24:57
types of help
00:24:59
uh maybe I would have felt way more
00:25:00
self-conscious and not tried at all and
00:25:02
just thought I was stupid and never have
00:25:04
gone to college like I don't really
00:25:05
don't know what the outcome of that
00:25:07
would have been I think for
00:25:10
me homeschooling was helpful but at the
00:25:14
same time you can get away with a lot
00:25:18
when you're homeschooled and so there's
00:25:20
it's really hard like to be to work on
00:25:22
something you're bad at and so when
00:25:24
you're not absolutely forced to do stuff
00:25:27
you're just not gon to work very hard on
00:25:29
it but that also applies in public
00:25:31
school like nowadays I I work in public
00:25:34
schools like three days a week and kids
00:25:37
will like teachers are just passing kids
00:25:40
even if they do zero work like they just
00:25:42
don't want them in their grade next year
00:25:43
until they're passing them so they they
00:25:45
can just Skip by and not do anything
00:25:47
anyway so I really don't know if normal
00:25:50
like public school private school would
00:25:52
have been better for me than uh
00:25:53
homeschool I think pros and cons
00:25:55
necessarily when it comes to like what
00:25:58
could other kids do that like have those
00:26:00
learning
00:26:01
disabilities on the homeschooling side I
00:26:04
think if your parents know what they're
00:26:06
doing which I think might had a a pretty
00:26:08
good idea um you can get some help
00:26:11
usually there's Specialists that you can
00:26:12
go to for both public and private school
00:26:15
and homeschool kids that can help a lot
00:26:17
too nowadays there's so much more
00:26:19
information for people than there was
00:26:21
when we were growing up that you could
00:26:23
just watch a YouTube video like your
00:26:24
parents can be so much more informed
00:26:26
about how to teach you now that like if
00:26:28
my mom could just watch a whole bunch of
00:26:29
YouTube videos about what dyslexia is
00:26:31
like when I was five like it'd be so
00:26:34
much easier for me and so much easier
00:26:35
for her now homeschooling me you know so
00:26:37
there are a ton more advantages for
00:26:39
parents if they're you know on it um as
00:26:42
teachers of their kids in homeschool to
00:26:45
like do a good job are they gonna do
00:26:48
that maybe maybe not I don't know um so
00:26:51
I'm not sure Point like you bring up
00:26:53
like the idea of like parents being
00:26:56
involved in education and I think that's
00:26:57
a big
00:26:58
thing that we're
00:27:01
seeing there's a lot of debate around
00:27:04
like school right now right of like
00:27:06
books are getting banned this country is
00:27:07
like you know our education policies are
00:27:10
not great in this country um to say the
00:27:12
least um I live in a really terrible
00:27:14
State our education is like one of the
00:27:16
lowest like we're in the 40s when it
00:27:18
comes to like education levels um yeah
00:27:22
so but I always like when I talk to
00:27:25
people who are thinking about
00:27:26
homeschooling their kids I'm like you as
00:27:29
the parent are like you want to be
00:27:32
heavily involved so like even if your
00:27:34
kid goes to public school like having
00:27:37
parents who are involved in your
00:27:38
education is super helpful right it's
00:27:40
super they care it's them showing like I
00:27:42
care about you um as as a kid right and
00:27:46
like we both had parents like that right
00:27:48
who were like when we struggled with
00:27:50
something how do we fix this how do we
00:27:52
get you to understand this right so
00:27:54
let's try this method let's do this and
00:27:56
that's I think why
00:27:58
the beauty of like if you do have a a
00:28:01
learning disability like dyslexia like
00:28:03
add like ADHD right because it's more of
00:28:06
a one-on-one approach with homeschool
00:28:08
kids there's like your parents have the
00:28:12
ability to be like okay this isn't
00:28:14
working so let's just change the method
00:28:16
if you're in a public school room with
00:28:18
12 to 20 to 30 kids the teacher does not
00:28:22
have the time to do that they are
00:28:23
juggling way too much right and so um so
00:28:27
even if you're your kid does have to go
00:28:28
to public school being able to take time
00:28:31
at home with them to like sit down and
00:28:33
be like okay why are you struggling in
00:28:34
this area let's get you the help you
00:28:35
need super important you graduated early
00:28:38
from high school so you're a genius
00:28:40
we've already we've already established
00:28:42
this and you went to college tell me
00:28:44
about your college experience because
00:28:45
yours is a little bit different than
00:28:46
mine I left immediately after school
00:28:49
After High School moved to college did
00:28:51
College in three years and walked away
00:28:54
with a degree I know your path went a
00:28:56
little bit different and you like did
00:28:57
career for a while and like different
00:28:59
things like that so like talk about that
00:29:01
and talk about like wanting because you
00:29:02
just you just graduated with a
00:29:04
bachelor's degree so like you know
00:29:06
congratulations first of all but uh talk
00:29:09
about like the decision to to do
00:29:12
that yeah so in high school started
00:29:16
college and that was really the H such a
00:29:20
big turning point for me in my life
00:29:22
because I went from thinking I was Dumb
00:29:25
and not like wanting to do school at all
00:29:27
not wanting to go to college anything
00:29:28
like that to just doing it for the last
00:29:30
semester of uh my high school experience
00:29:34
and after the first or second day can't
00:29:38
remember I was only taking two classes I
00:29:40
had an art class that was six hours long
00:29:43
on Friday morning um and I wanted to end
00:29:46
it all every class and I was terrible at
00:29:49
drawing also and I had a math class and
00:29:52
I walked out of the second math class
00:29:55
because the first one was just like an
00:29:56
intro SL syllabus or something and
00:29:59
literally cried I was like I don't know
00:30:02
what I'm doing I'm an idiot like I don't
00:30:05
know how to learn like this is so
00:30:07
overwhelming I also didn't realize that
00:30:09
college because I went to a community
00:30:11
college was going to be like half like
00:30:14
high school graduates half like military
00:30:18
slash moms slash anybody else that
00:30:20
wanted to go to school and so I just
00:30:22
wasn't ready for the demographics I
00:30:24
wasn't ready for the content and my mom
00:30:26
was like you can quit like just stick it
00:30:28
out until like the drop date and like
00:30:29
see how you do
00:30:32
and I was like I really don't want to do
00:30:35
that but I guess I'll hum humiliate
00:30:37
myself for like a month just to I guess
00:30:40
see where it goes and so I did and after
00:30:42
a month I realized everybody else knew
00:30:45
just as much as I did in the class and
00:30:48
that's why they were there and I was
00:30:50
like oh I don't have to just know this
00:30:51
like going into it and so I realized I
00:30:53
was just there to learn like and I can
00:30:55
learn I just have to take the pressure
00:30:56
off myself and and like I started to
00:30:59
gain confidence in myself as you know
00:31:01
I'd take a test and I wouldn't fail it
00:31:02
and I would do my homework and I would
00:31:04
do a good job and I'd get A's and B's
00:31:06
and stuff like that um and I finished
00:31:09
the class and got an A and like as soon
00:31:10
as I did that I was like holy crap like
00:31:12
maybe I'm not who I thought I was
00:31:14
because I was just living life
00:31:15
academically in a vacuum of just me and
00:31:18
the computer or me and my parents
00:31:20
depending on you know whatever subject I
00:31:22
was
00:31:23
doing so that was a huge like confidence
00:31:26
boost and honestly like almost like
00:31:29
personality changer mostly based off of
00:31:31
confidence for me and realizing I wasn't
00:31:34
uh dumb that I could learn and I really
00:31:36
started to love learning at that point
00:31:38
and just like started learning as much
00:31:39
as I could in a lot of different areas
00:31:40
and college was fun I in three years or
00:31:43
no in two and a half years I got a
00:31:45
couple different Associates degrees um
00:31:47
one in Psychology one in Communications
00:31:49
and then uh I quit and started working
00:31:52
for ym for seven years or something and
00:31:55
then the last three years I've just gone
00:31:56
to school at night
00:31:58
and have just done
00:31:59
school asynchronously and so all of the
00:32:03
pain that all of the current high
00:32:05
schoolers are feeling of going to school
00:32:07
over zoom and stuff for a while I can
00:32:09
also empathize with um it is
00:32:12
not not a good way to learn in any shape
00:32:16
or form in my mind uh but it does allow
00:32:20
you to get somewhat of an
00:32:22
education uh on your own time which is
00:32:24
really helpful for a lot of people
00:32:26
because I couldn't have gotten a degree
00:32:27
just like working normal hours I can't
00:32:30
go to school right um so that was really
00:32:32
helpful just graduated all that kind of
00:32:34
stuff really thankful for it and that I
00:32:36
was able to do it and all that kind of
00:32:37
stuff honestly education is so strange
00:32:40
at different uh at different ages of
00:32:44
life because when you're at least for me
00:32:46
and this is my experience that I've seen
00:32:47
with a lot of kids just no one wants to
00:32:49
do school when you're young like you
00:32:52
just you just can't wait till it's over
00:32:54
you're like I just can't wait till
00:32:56
either the day is over and I can do
00:32:57
whatever I want want or um Summer's here
00:33:00
or I'm finally out of school like
00:33:02
everybody just wants to quit and then
00:33:04
when you're older you're like just get
00:33:06
me a podcast so I could learn more
00:33:08
please like I just need some time to
00:33:11
learn can you please just let me not
00:33:12
work so I can just learn for a little
00:33:14
bit and it just switches so much I don't
00:33:17
know how to solve that problem honestly
00:33:19
it just seems so funny to me that iomy
00:33:20
of like once you get out of school you
00:33:22
start working you just want to learn
00:33:23
again and you just want to do some
00:33:25
interesting stuff and when you're in
00:33:26
high school you're like please just give
00:33:27
me out of here I just need Freedom you
00:33:30
know what's funny is and um what's funny
00:33:34
is that like my parents did this thing
00:33:37
where when I got to high school there
00:33:39
was they would ask me what I wanted to
00:33:41
learn about right so like that's this is
00:33:43
the other Joy of like being a homeschool
00:33:45
kid was that like I got really into
00:33:47
World War II so for a year I did history
00:33:51
that was all World War II based history
00:33:53
I got really into Pirates I did history
00:33:55
all based around Pirates so
00:33:58
it things like that right it's like your
00:34:01
that's the joy of homeschooling not
00:34:02
every parent does that but like you can
00:34:05
encourage your kid to like pursue that
00:34:08
passion right it also goes with like it
00:34:10
you know we were both musical people we
00:34:12
did bands together we were in church
00:34:14
band together like we had parents that
00:34:16
like pushed us to like pursue things we
00:34:19
were interested in whether it was in
00:34:21
school or out of school and so you you
00:34:25
talk about like yeah like once you are
00:34:28
out in the real world and you have a job
00:34:29
you're like now I just want to learn but
00:34:30
the things you want to learn about
00:34:32
typically are things that you're like
00:34:33
I'm interested in this you know where
00:34:35
like high school and somewhat of college
00:34:38
I mean College you get to decide what
00:34:40
you want to study but after a while
00:34:41
you're kind of like locked in right you
00:34:42
do two years or something you're like I
00:34:44
might as well just like finish this out
00:34:47
uh but you now we're at a stage where
00:34:50
it's like whatever you want to learn it
00:34:53
you can go learn it right there's any
00:34:55
any Outlet you can go find information
00:34:57
find information a course a book a
00:35:00
podcast YouTube videos around that thing
00:35:02
and learn about
00:35:04
it homeschooling does a good job of like
00:35:07
I don't know if it was the case for you
00:35:09
it was the case for me that like there
00:35:11
were points where my parents would just
00:35:12
like hand me a textbook and be like here
00:35:15
like just do this kind of a thing and
00:35:17
then it's all on you to just like figure
00:35:20
out like I'm gonna do x amount in this
00:35:22
day you know you said you did uh
00:35:24
geometry in like two months right it's
00:35:27
like you were good at it so you just
00:35:28
went ham at it uh but you know there's
00:35:33
that kind of like I don't know did your
00:35:35
did your parents do that at all for you
00:35:36
like where you know you were like
00:35:38
interested in something and they like P
00:35:40
maybe not pushed you but just like
00:35:41
encouraged you to be like oh yeah pursue
00:35:43
that thing like whether it's education
00:35:45
or not most of the academic things that
00:35:47
I did when I was in junior 9 high school
00:35:49
I have just blacked out of my mind in in
00:35:52
general I don't blame you just because
00:35:54
they weren't important to me then yeah
00:35:56
so like I learn I learned learned a lot
00:35:58
but I don't really remember the process
00:35:59
of learning like I have some images
00:36:01
ingrained in my mind um but of course my
00:36:03
parents were super supportive as most
00:36:05
parents are who homeschool their kids
00:36:07
they obviously care about their kids and
00:36:09
what they're learning which is why
00:36:10
they're homeschooling them in the first
00:36:11
place um whether or not certain parents
00:36:13
do a good job of it um that's uh left to
00:36:17
be said for some of them but I think my
00:36:19
parents did a good job and yeah if I was
00:36:21
interested in a sport they let me do it
00:36:22
if I was interested in music they let me
00:36:24
do it uh they always wanted me to to
00:36:26
love what I was doing and stuff but then
00:36:27
there's stuff you don't get to choose
00:36:29
you don't get to choose if you do math
00:36:30
or not you don't get to choose if you
00:36:31
write papers or not you know for English
00:36:33
like it's just stuff you got to do uh so
00:36:36
there is an amount of flexibility um I
00:36:38
really can't remember if there was any
00:36:40
specific areas I really wanted to learn
00:36:42
in or not I think I'm most was just
00:36:43
interested in sports and music and stuff
00:36:46
like that that I kind of did
00:36:48
extracurricularly yeah yeah I know that
00:36:52
yeah tennis was like huge in our
00:36:54
hometown that was a big one and I know
00:36:56
you like lifeguard and um I tell people
00:37:00
all the time that my sport was Airsoft
00:37:04
and that took place at your house most
00:37:05
of the time so like to set the scene
00:37:08
der's house growing up which his parents
00:37:10
still live there it's just some
00:37:11
beautiful house it's on a river you know
00:37:14
it sometimes that River dries up but
00:37:16
there's like this whole backyard jungle
00:37:18
that was just like perfect for like
00:37:21
Airsoft paintball like hide and seek
00:37:23
like it was amazing backyard but we
00:37:25
would go play a oft I don't know we
00:37:28
played multiple times a month I know
00:37:30
that like at some points it was just
00:37:31
like every single week uh
00:37:34
yeah do yeah exactly just like be
00:37:37
outside and like shoot each other with
00:37:39
plastic pellets like of course that
00:37:40
sounds you know freaking
00:37:43
sick so but I always tell people I'm
00:37:45
like my parents that was my sport so
00:37:47
they funded it you know like that was my
00:37:50
you know in the same way they would pay
00:37:51
you know if I wanted to play football or
00:37:53
tennis or anything like that I wanted to
00:37:55
play Airsoft so I'd go play Airsoft at
00:37:57
der's house yeah so much fun yeah some
00:38:01
of the best memories playing Airsoft in
00:38:03
the backyard uh have you seen pictures
00:38:05
of my backyard recently I have not no
00:38:08
dude
00:38:10
unrecognizable zero zero Shrubbery all
00:38:14
rocks the creek has completely moved
00:38:16
like the middle of like I don't know I
00:38:19
don't want to talk about too much but
00:38:21
it's just completely changed you gotta
00:38:22
look at pictures my dad posts on
00:38:23
Instagram all the time okay it's very
00:38:25
different I'll check it out yeah no it's
00:38:28
so it's so weird to like go back and see
00:38:30
people's houses or like my mom sends me
00:38:33
you know videos of like us as kids she
00:38:35
just sent me a video of you and I doing
00:38:38
our homeschool talent show and we played
00:38:41
uh we played a song I can't remember
00:38:43
what song is but yeah Home by Edward
00:38:48
Sharp in the magnetic zero I think and
00:38:52
um it was just fun she SS it to me like
00:38:55
every year when it pops up on her
00:38:56
timeline just like oh yeah remember this
00:38:59
and uh so yeah you and I were in a
00:39:03
couple different bands together I know
00:39:04
that I just saw a picture on my Google
00:39:07
photos that came up the other day and it
00:39:10
was you and me sitting outside of a
00:39:11
hotel we just got dropped off by our
00:39:12
parents to get picked up by other
00:39:14
parents and we had like a bass guitar
00:39:16
and an amp and another guitar I have no
00:39:17
idea what show or something we just
00:39:19
played um but yeah we did some music
00:39:21
together some fun times I remember too
00:39:25
do you remember this there is a a Ford
00:39:27
dealer in Filmore and Brandon Burns who
00:39:31
was going to come on the podcast he got
00:39:33
us a gig and the three of us went and
00:39:35
played at this like restaurant that was
00:39:37
in the Ford dealership so it was like
00:39:39
weird we were like in the display room
00:39:42
and we played music and like nobody came
00:39:44
to dinner that night it was just like us
00:39:45
and the restaurant staff was I there you
00:39:49
were there I swear you were there I'll
00:39:51
have to confirm with Brandon that you
00:39:52
were there but like it was like this
00:39:54
little Italian restaurant and
00:39:58
anyway I we just did weird stuff like
00:40:01
that you know so much weird
00:40:03
stuff and yeah all the dances everything
00:40:06
the plays dances plays yeah there were
00:40:10
so many things that looking back I'm
00:40:12
like I cringe at some things right like
00:40:15
putting on panty house to be in a
00:40:17
Mitchell backyard theater production and
00:40:19
and a powdered wig and stuff like that
00:40:22
um but at the same time like there are
00:40:24
so many little memories that are so
00:40:27
they're fun right it's just we had fun
00:40:29
growing up and you know especially by
00:40:32
the time we were in high school and we
00:40:33
got
00:40:34
licenses we just kind of got to do
00:40:36
whatever we wanted like I don't know you
00:40:39
know I remember it being early in the
00:40:41
morning and being like yeah we're just
00:40:42
gonna like we already did school like I
00:40:44
did school last night you know let's go
00:40:47
let's go have fun and U yeah yeah it's
00:40:51
awesome yeah I wanted to tell one other
00:40:54
story about you and see if you
00:40:56
remembered this was that uh for your
00:40:58
18th
00:40:59
birthday uh a friend of ours Kevin rap
00:41:02
put together a surprise party for you
00:41:04
and we you in the
00:41:07
morning and there's a picture it looks
00:41:09
I'll see if I can find it and I'll
00:41:11
probably post it on the Instagram but it
00:41:12
was like it we look like a band like
00:41:15
your house was like being redone or
00:41:18
something so there's like plastic wrap
00:41:20
everywhere and uh someone shot it from
00:41:22
the balcony so it's like down on all of
00:41:24
us and we're all just standing there and
00:41:26
we took you out to breakfast and I don't
00:41:27
remember what else we went and did but
00:41:30
still one of my like favorite memories
00:41:32
of like the boys going out and having
00:41:34
fun and hanging out for for a birthday
00:41:37
so anyway that was awesome yeah do you
00:41:40
remember the what the waitress said to
00:41:42
us I do remember she asked us if we were
00:41:45
G to go buy you like smokes and porn and
00:41:47
scratchers and we were like what the
00:41:50
heck are you talking about because we
00:41:51
were good Christian boys y just the
00:41:54
amount of awkward silence at that table
00:41:57
was so tangible when she asked that
00:41:58
question was so awesome like I remember
00:42:01
that I'll remember that forever I just
00:42:03
like she's trying to be funny like
00:42:04
talking to like a table of boys ask them
00:42:06
if they're gonna buy some porn or
00:42:08
whatever and we're all just
00:42:10
like no yeah yeah you spoke the you
00:42:13
spoke the devil's words
00:42:15
like so funny yeah also who's buying
00:42:18
porn yeah exactly it's free on the
00:42:21
internet come on
00:42:24
uh I only got couple more questions for
00:42:28
you um I know we're running a little bit
00:42:29
over time but um the uh I was going to
00:42:33
ask you so you know based on your
00:42:35
experience being a homeschool kid
00:42:37
growing up with it you know would you if
00:42:39
you have kids someday would you think
00:42:41
about homeschooling your kids would you
00:42:43
send them to private school public
00:42:45
school I really don't know I think that
00:42:47
would be something I'd have to consider
00:42:48
deeper as I got to it I think the idea
00:42:51
of should anybody homeschool their kids
00:42:54
um more from like a philosophical
00:42:56
standpoint is much more interesting I
00:42:59
trust myself and so if I was to
00:43:02
homeschool my kids I would hope I would
00:43:04
do a good job um but I'm also like I
00:43:07
just love learning on my own and so I
00:43:08
would love to teach my kids but we all
00:43:12
know like we've all met certain types of
00:43:15
people in the world God bless them and
00:43:18
they just maybe shouldn't be teaching
00:43:19
their kids very much because maybe they
00:43:21
didn't learn very much in school you
00:43:22
know what I mean or something like that
00:43:23
like I I saw an an Instagram re the
00:43:27
other day and it was this lady and she
00:43:30
homeschools her kids and her method of
00:43:33
homeschooling her kid I think is five or
00:43:35
six her method of homeschooling is to
00:43:39
not teach them and whenever they ask a
00:43:42
question about something that's like the
00:43:43
learning experience for the day and so
00:43:45
they're not learning any organized
00:43:48
school I think one kid's seven and one's
00:43:50
uh five and so like they just don't know
00:43:52
anything about anything they don't know
00:43:54
how to read they don't know how to do
00:43:55
math like the seveny old's like just now
00:43:58
like learning how to add and subtract
00:44:00
and I'm like so that person's ruining
00:44:02
their kids like that's just what they're
00:44:04
doing right and how many people are
00:44:07
going to do that in the
00:44:10
world more than than need to probably
00:44:13
but at the same time at the same time we
00:44:16
live in such an age that if you wanted
00:44:18
to homeschool your kids you could do a
00:44:20
fantastic job like it would be hard to
00:44:22
argue it would be really hard to argue
00:44:25
that you couldn't do a better job than
00:44:26
School the school systems that are
00:44:27
available even private school systems
00:44:29
100% like an intelligent person could do
00:44:32
a much better job anybody who's working
00:44:35
one-on-one with a child like for half of
00:44:38
a day can do a better job than a kid
00:44:40
going to school like it just sucks to go
00:44:42
to school for seven hours and come home
00:44:44
and have three hours of homework and
00:44:45
that's just your entire day when you
00:44:47
could have had one-on-one time with
00:44:48
someone all day long and done all of
00:44:50
your school in three hours and learned
00:44:52
way more and especially when it's
00:44:54
tailored to your own like learning style
00:44:56
so it's inarguable that it's not better
00:44:59
like it is better but do we trust human
00:45:02
beings to teach each other legally yes
00:45:05
um do I trust myself I think I do but I
00:45:08
I'd probably ruin my kids in some way as
00:45:10
well but I mean so are other teachers
00:45:12
too so I don't know it's a it's a
00:45:14
question I'd have to ask myself once I
00:45:15
actually had a kid and and wanted to
00:45:19
teach them I would right now say if you
00:45:21
made me choose like am I going to
00:45:23
homeschool my future kids I would say I
00:45:26
would do some kind of charter school
00:45:27
where they go to school a couple days a
00:45:29
week so they can at least not be a super
00:45:31
Weirdo And but I can also teach them at
00:45:34
the same time I'd probably choose some
00:45:36
kind of hybrid like that at the moment
00:45:38
yeah yeah you also answered my next
00:45:41
question which was like what
00:45:43
encouragement would you give parents if
00:45:44
they are thinking about homeschooling
00:45:46
and I mean you kind of answered it it's
00:45:47
like if you're going to do it like the
00:45:50
the resources to do it really well are
00:45:52
just there um but you know so much more
00:45:56
than when our parents were doing
00:45:58
it% yeah like I remember our moms
00:46:01
meeting up for like Park days and stuff
00:46:02
and being like I found this curriculum
00:46:05
it's so good like try it out and then
00:46:06
hand each other like the papers and
00:46:08
you're like now you just download it on
00:46:10
the Internet or like watch a YouTube
00:46:11
video you know find the series on a
00:46:13
website or something that you got to pay
00:46:14
a little bit of money for but you can
00:46:16
find super like well accredited stuff
00:46:19
you could even teach your kid college
00:46:20
level stuff like there are so many
00:46:22
different universities that give away
00:46:23
classes for free and so much so much of
00:46:26
the first few years of of college is
00:46:28
just the same thing you did in high
00:46:29
school anyway and so it would be so easy
00:46:33
to find the resources you need so if you
00:46:36
wanted to homeschool your kid so easy so
00:46:39
easy nowadays if you're if you're
00:46:40
actually motivated and interested in
00:46:42
giving your kid a good education you
00:46:43
could do a really good job the friend
00:46:45
side of it the social awareness aspect
00:46:47
of it uh that would be a harder thing to
00:46:49
deal with than the education side when I
00:46:51
think it used to be the other way around
00:46:52
it's hard because Co threw everything
00:46:54
into a loop of like the isolation and
00:46:56
people separated themselves a lot
00:46:58
however there are still really strong
00:47:01
homeschool communities that exist all
00:47:03
over the country all over the world and
00:47:05
I know where we grew up there was acheve
00:47:08
was the one it was the it was the one
00:47:10
that we were all a part of and it was
00:47:11
they were super strong and they they did
00:47:13
do events and things that pushed kids to
00:47:16
be in community with each other we still
00:47:19
were socially awkward you know
00:47:20
caterpillars waiting to be hatched but
00:47:23
we at least had some human interaction
00:47:26
um out side of you know when you do meet
00:47:28
a kid that has never had social
00:47:30
interaction outside of Mom Dad siblings
00:47:32
it's you know you can tell you can tell
00:47:35
so that's the other thing is like one if
00:47:37
you're thinking about homeschooling
00:47:39
you're a kid the education to to give
00:47:41
them like you said the best education
00:47:42
possible it's at your fingertips but two
00:47:45
find that Community to give your kids
00:47:47
the opportunity to go out into the world
00:47:49
and be socially adjusted know how to
00:47:52
interact with people know how to
00:47:53
interact with uh you know in any s
00:47:56
circumstance in life right uh you have
00:47:59
the ability to do that so that be all
00:48:02
that being said thank you for coming on
00:48:04
the show um I appreciate it catching up
00:48:07
with you and is there anything else you
00:48:10
want to leave the people with uh
00:48:11
anything you want to shout out you know
00:48:14
let the people know yeah um man
00:48:18
homeschooling it was a trip I people ask
00:48:22
me sometimes you know would you do it
00:48:24
all again if you had the choice like to
00:48:26
have your parents School you or not
00:48:27
homeschool you and I I struggle with
00:48:29
that question all the time I think I
00:48:31
would
00:48:32
have thrived a lot more and had uh some
00:48:37
less anxiety socially if I went to a
00:48:40
normal public school but at the same
00:48:42
time I would have probably had so many
00:48:44
other problems that I would have had to
00:48:46
deal with and so it's kind of just like
00:48:48
a you know tit fortat kind of thing I
00:48:51
don't think I would change anything I
00:48:53
mean I am who I am and I have strength
00:48:55
and weaknesses based off of how I was
00:48:57
raised as does everybody and I like who
00:49:00
I am and I'm satisfied with the gifts
00:49:03
that I've been given and how I was
00:49:04
raised so I don't think I would change
00:49:06
anything it would be interesting like
00:49:08
there'd be I'd for sure play a lot more
00:49:10
Sports I would have for sure done
00:49:12
different things socially and all that
00:49:13
kind of stuff but I liked my um my
00:49:16
childhood I liked meeting you and being
00:49:18
friends and all the other friends that I
00:49:20
had um so I think I would keep it the
00:49:22
same if you gave me a genie and said you
00:49:24
get to choose it would be nice to
00:49:26
experience just so I could kind of you
00:49:28
know compare and contrast and tell
00:49:29
people what to do um but hey this is the
00:49:32
life that we have and it's uh been a
00:49:34
good one so far with its uh cons and its
00:49:37
pros and we're just trying to make the
00:49:38
best of it yeah well again thanks for
00:49:41
coming on the show for anyone listening
00:49:44
you know this is episode two three I
00:49:47
don't know I don't know when this is
00:49:48
coming out yet it's coming out next
00:49:50
month uh July sometime but uh you know
00:49:53
like subscribe rate review all the good
00:49:56
things you already know what to do and
00:49:58
um yeah if there's anything you want to
00:50:00
know about
00:50:01
homeschooling send me a comment send me
00:50:03
a DM whatever you got to do um because I
00:50:06
want to get it answered for you so this
00:50:08
has been the ex- homeschoolers club and
00:50:11
until next time we'll see you
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