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yeah hello you guys been married he didn't tell me what he was going to do because I don't know the severity of it
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I'm just scared this is Amelia bassoon attempting to seduce the detectives to get away with murder Amelia was arrested
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in connection with the murders of Cindy and Sean stack they think she helped her
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husband cover up the crime but she will do everything she can to get away with it including flirting with the
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detectives but while this case started in a playful manner it quickly evolved into one of the most intense
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interrogations of all time they're dead they're both dead I didn't do anything the detective starts by reading Amelia
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her rights and getting some basic information am I like getting arrested or something or something
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I just normally this story is like someone getting in trouble or arrested well we just like I said we want to be
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able to talk to you already it's obvious that Amelia is making her voice high pitched and speaking in a timid tone of
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voice while this could just be what she sounds like normally other footage of her suggests otherwise I don't want to
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press charges but I would like a no contact order I can do it okay her change in tone could also be a reaction
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to being in a stressful and uncomfortable situation and as the interrogation continues she begins to
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show more and more of these flirtatious signs whatever Josh did you say that did
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I hear you say you shot himself with a leg Yeah so in December he um we went bowling okay
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the bullet went around the bone and around the artery growing through jeez that's lucky
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yeah he's crazy yellow you guys been married um it'll be a year in September oh okay
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here Amelia gathers her hair and moves it all to the right hand side exposing her neck on the left the neck carries
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the jugular an important and vulnerable part of the body that many people will make an effort to protect however when
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someone feels comfortable or safe around someone they're likely to expose their neck by tilting their head or moving
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their hair to the side suggesting attraction or at least the desire to show it all right so mainly I can tell
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you the reason why we're here today because of that issue of the bank okay all right does that surprise you
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um for this type of situation yeah okay like this intense I mean I got in trouble at work which makes sense but
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I'm just confused about this well let's let's walk through it a little bit okay um let's walk through that and see how
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maybe we came here today all right and find out if this was just a misunderstanding or what okay the story
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ended with Cindy and Sean dead but started with an equally disgusting crime Amelia was an employee at Chase Bank and
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exploited her position to steal fifty thousand dollars from a dementia-ridden man she wrote two checks from his
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account and her husband Josh deposited them in his accounts when Cindy and Sean started asking questions Josh purchased
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a gun and shot the pair in their own apartment this interrogation is not only to uncover the details behind the theft
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but also to determine what part she played in the killings so how did you what happened with this write-up so I
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mean had you been a banker for him for a while I mean yeah so I've been a banker
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since I've known so so what happened with these checks um I think you just finish your teeth call
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them have a record over global security so when they came in they pulled like call logs they pulled like cameras just
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to make sure like little signature files doesn't mean it's still Federal it's the
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bank so they wanted to make sure that I wasn't like I guess stealing when you talk to Gerald I mean how do you appear
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to you is he a young guy old guy oh how did he appear to you when you talked to him
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he was okay do you ever have any issues when he talked to him about remembering things or anything like that like I know
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like a little about himself like he had brain surgery [Music] um but for the most part he remembers
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things I don't think it would get really just other than nice okay yeah nice guy Amelia does her best
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to seem open and honest here but as soon as she finishes up talking she brings her shoulders up hunches over slightly
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and Crosses her arms all movements that are done to protect vital parts of the body and are obvious tells that someone
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feels uncomfortable the lines only become more apparent as the interview continues what did you have
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you do like how did you what did he ask for nothing is just to but we put two checks
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in 25 000 each the grandson came picked them up the grandson came and picked him up it
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was either the day before the day after I opened up an account for him oh so he must have just deposited those checks
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into the account um I think your best bet right now is to be completely honest with us okay okay so
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let me let me let's go on a little bit more okay the truth is gonna be the best thing right now this happened in May
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the account still open the Grand Theft Auto nope Amelia's speech has become much
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shorter and unclear and she continues to see more and more uncomfortable when pressured about Gerald's banking records
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of course the detective has noticed this and is seeing straight through her original timid and playful demeanor so
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he decides to ramp up the pressure at a certain point in time we have to move past it all right he's a nice guy
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and I'm sure you really do care about it I do do you see now but it's not like I I don't know okay
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no I don't want to say this is a really nice guy yeah and uh Josh did he ever talk to them no he
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never spoke to him he doesn't even know they are what do you have been at their house
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we have access to his account yeah but I haven't you opened it can you talk to Cindy
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possible she gave you their address is it going to be in the text messages yeah but you don't remember if she gave you
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the address or not she never dented no reason possible Josh went over there I needed
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to know I mean how would he know where they live though I'm just not the question I was
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asking is it possible that he went over there not that I know so you don't you can't say for sure he
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did it too I didn't say no we because he doesn't know where that he doesn't know them Amelia now decides to
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change strategies instead of her original flirtatious and playful demeanor she switched to an innocent and
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clueless one at points she even smiles and laughs while being asked serious questions and in attempts to downplay
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the intensity and pressure this is a sign that the facade she's put up is starting to break and the detective
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takes this as an opportunity to press her even further you need to start understanding this various situation
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all right yeah because I don't know if you really do all right and I think you need to start understanding that how
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this interview goes and where what you know what decisions you make here are going to affect your life for a long
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long long time I think you think that you had this all planned out and I think you and again not saying in a bad way
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but this is what we do okay when we make mistakes we figure things out and go okay all right there's
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a lot more going on here all right and you know whose name is all over this right now you and Joshua okay you need
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to start thinking real hard real fast okay who who is involved in this and what happened okay that's all I know
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okay things got out of hand okay discount at hand I think what happened was Cindy was asking you for
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this money back and you didn't have it and there's there's some issues there okay sometimes again when we make a
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mistake we do something wrong and things the ball gets wrong we can't stop it you
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understand what I'm saying okay listen you have your whole life out of you I know you have seven year old son
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you have an obligation to him so whatever happened Beyond this we need to know because if if you want to keep
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going with what you're telling us okay then we're gonna have to go on that all right and you have to understand yeah
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so somebody did something we need to know now talking about her son obviously strikes a chord with Amelia and as
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interrogations are all about exploiting emotions to extract the truth the detective jumps on this to make her as
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vulnerable as possible no well this is the stuff we need to know listen if you put you up to it you
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put you up to it that's okay again I'd like to talk more if you said I think you're kind of at this crossroads
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right now okay you've got Josh who you probably love and he's your husband okay she also have Julian and you got a
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picture that little boy you got a picture of not being able to watch him grow up
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think about that for a second think about being put somewhere very far away from him and the only way you're
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gonna have contact with him is through letters you're gonna get pictures in jail in
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prison of your little boy growing up that's your future I don't know it's a very what he did
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what did he do but he he I mean he knows the relationship that I have with Mr stack
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he knows that I mean I would take him food like listen to me so at a point it would it would he would get upset with
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me that like I'm too nice that I like I can't kind of act with my customers but he's well the old guy has no family well
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I mean I talked to him because he knows my husband I talk to him Josh said that you you you kind of were owed this money
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because you were taking care of this guy I don't know if he said that but something like that
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yeah let me tell you I don't want to get in trouble I didn't do anything we need to know well then
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tell us okay [Music] they're both dead what yeah they're dead so now we really need to talk at this
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point all of the games that Emilio was playing have gone out the window whether she's innocent or not she's now being
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accused of aiding a murderer and is faced with losing her job house and a seven-year-old son so understandably
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she's starting to get incredibly scared I do not want to go to jail I don't I don't like if I get fired okay let me
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get fired at work but I don't want to go to jail I didn't do anything I didn't I
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didn't plan anything I didn't conspire anything just I didn't do anything I don't want to go
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to jail from here the detectives try to capitalize on this using her vulnerable state to try and extract as much
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information as possible from her but Amelia asserts that she's only told the truth throughout the entire
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interrogation she didn't know Cindy and Sean were dead and she had nothing to do
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with their murders but here is where the interrogation takes a massive turn these
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detectives have now been talking to her for over two hours and they've executed this style of interrogation almost
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perfectly but for the last few hours they've just been going around in circles to no avail so instead they
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leave the room to discuss a new approach and that's when detective number three enters with blankets and a kind
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apologetic tone hey you need to go from underneath this big time did they tell you who they work for
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so no they want you to be that's why I want to talk to them because I just don't want to be involved
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in any of this like okay I don't want any part of this I want to be able to go home okay entering like this after such
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a stressful experience with the other detectives will set Amelia's mind at ease and subconsciously enforce the idea
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that he isn't a threat at the start of the interrogation Amelia was trying to seduce the detectives in an attempt to
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get better treatment and hopefully even a lighter sentence so if the third detective plays into this by treating
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her kindly and playing her game maybe he'll have a chance of finding out what really happened in these cases you can't
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lie which which means holding something back telling a partial truth or just flat out
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a line that is accessory you're protecting someone and I'm telling you right now you don't need to do that if
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you know what happened no I didn't tell you what he did not say anything no he just told me if you say
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anything like if you because I mean I'm not stupid okay but eventually he told you
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what happened no he didn't tell me that he killed anybody or that he was going but you know that
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he was going over there I knew that he was going over there what day he told me he's like he's like don't worry about
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what I'm doing I'll take care of it I'm talking about them though I'm guessing so because that's just what he's crazy
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your importance is in details not in vagueness they told me I'm going to jail regardless well I doubted that the the
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fraud part may be but that's that's nothing compared to these charts refers to me murder
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they all of these things if you don't say any of these things you're definitely going to get in
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trouble but that's this is where I'm scared if I say these things like I I didn't do
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anything but this way if you protect him and you don't tell us everything then you're part of the crime Amelia is now
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met with a harsh dilemma she has to either gamble that the detectives never connect her to the crime and face felony
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charges herself or fess up and snitch to the police likely sending her husband to
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jail for the rest of his life this is her last chance to make the right decision or she'll never see her son
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again [Music] yeah go ahead um so I let her know she wanted to know she went with her dad to the bank and
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she looked at the transaction history and she wanted to know what the checks were so I can't tell her much and then
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he's over my shoulder listening to my conversations with her and he's just like I'll take care of it don't worry
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about it he just wasn't having it he didn't want me to talk to her he didn't want me to contact her you know we
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talked about her um the guy's daughter you know her name Cynthia Cindy Cindy and he he was
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um only because of the conversations that me and her were having to say he went he bought a gun I don't
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know if it was Tuesday or Wednesday he called out of work he said that I'm gonna take care of things the next day
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he just he comes home and he's like banging on the door this is like where the apartment or the house where we we
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were at today yes okay we came banging on the door oh I came home he took the gun apart he was
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shaking um he took all his clothes off he put it in a garbage bag and then he went by his
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mom and dad's house okay um when did you become aware that he was involved in the murder well I didn't
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know what what happened I just stopped hearing from her and then when I said something about can I call her he told
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me no and then he got really mad at me and he was like if you say something I'm gonna kill you okay not going to say
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that unless he told you about the murder that's the part that's that's so when did he tell you about the murder
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it sweet you got to let this go you can't anything you hold back is not going to look good you just tell it it
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hurts it's scary I understand that but not talking is worse for you than talking it was he never described how
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what he never physically said like what he did or if anything was done did he say he shot him well I'm guessing he had
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a gun so don't guess did he tell you that he shot him yes he said he shot him and with that the detectives managed to
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use Amelia's tactics against her and got her to confess to her own husband's crime the detectives also stuck to their
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word and after confirming she had nothing to do with the murders dropped the charges against her she was however
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still charged with the theft and sentenced to three years in prison Josh however was found guilty of the first
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degree murders of Cindy and Sean stack and was sentenced to Life Behind Bars