00:00:00
You're going to talk. Okay. You want to sit down? Tell me about um mommy or daddy or
00:00:07
somebody else. [music] My My dad is bad now. Your dad is bad now. Tell me about dad
00:00:13
being bad now. What What happened at the house with your wife [music] with Jasmine?
00:00:17
I remember. Mom got everywhere. I AK-47. Okay. What did you do? I'm so sorry. Yeah. How many kids you have?
00:00:32
Five kids. Any four times three times. Okay. On March 4th, 2022, a mother's worst
00:00:53
nightmare occurred for Jasmine Serena. A man armed with a gun entered her home. He would notice four children watching
00:01:04
television in their living room. They would freeze up and look at him in horror, unable to do anything, but the
00:01:13
man would pass by. He wasn't looking to harm Jasmine's children. [music] Instead, he made his way over to the
00:01:22
kitchen where Jasmine was standing and shot Three bullets struck Jasmine and she was
00:01:33
left in critical condition, lying helplessly in her kitchen. The suspect left the scene in a hurry thinking she
00:01:41
was done for. But unfortunately for him, Jasmine managed to survive. Despite her critical
00:01:50
condition, she managed to call 911 and ask for help. Officer Baker was the first cop to arrive at the scene, seeing
00:01:57
all the kids surrounding their mother crying [music] for help. She was immediately transferred to the El Paso
00:02:03
hospital by helicopter. Now it's a race against time for doctors. With each passing second, her chances of survival
00:02:11
rapidly decrease. And for the detectives, [music] they needed to find their suspect fast
00:02:18
before he struck another innocent victim. Right now, they needed any clue that could lead them to the possible
00:02:24
killer. So, multiple officers would go back to the crime scene to take a closer look at exactly what just went down.
00:02:32
Okay, so I have bullets or casings, excuse me, one there, one on the table. I have one where she was sitting or
00:02:43
where I found her leaning against the facing us. Yeah, cuz you can see there's impacts
00:02:48
right there and right there. Okay. And there's another casing back over there on the floor.
00:02:53
Okay. I got here. She's sitting facing me with her legs out. She had a strike here,
00:03:00
here, and what looks like a through and through here with a shirt up. She had nothing that went through completely on
00:03:06
the back. Oh, so the rounds are in here. I thought it was a round like No, she's distended. It's all internal
00:03:11
right here. According to the police report, the victim, Jasmine Serena, took two bullets to her abdomen and the third
00:03:18
bullet landed right in her leg. Despite her critical condition, she gathered the
00:03:23
little energy she had and told officer Baker the attacker's name. Um, she said that it was Julian that did
00:03:31
it. Venuela. Valenuela. That was the name of her own husband, Julian Valenuela. and the father of four
00:03:42
children who just saw their dad shoot their mom. However, this wasn't the only thing she was able to tell the cops.
00:03:50
Jasmine also mentioned the car Julian drove to the house before shooting a red sedan. In a matter of seconds, all
00:03:58
patrols nearby received a notification to stop any red sedans they saw on the streets of Las Cruises. While Julian's
00:04:05
vehicle was being tracked down, Officer Dollar along with his partner had a different task. It was reported Julian
00:04:12
was living at this house. With him being on the run, police think there's a chance he could be hiding in the home.
00:04:20
So, the two officers would make their way into the home in hopes to find a surrendered Julian or at least a clue of
00:04:26
where he might be. Yeah, it's wide open front and back. It's cluttered. IT'S JUST JUST
00:04:31
ABANDONED. LOST CHRIS'S POLICE DEPARTMENT. ANYBODY INSIDE the residence? Come out to the
00:04:36
sound, my voice. There was no other choice but to enter the house forcibly and make sure the
00:04:49
suspect wasn't hiding inside. For all they know, Julian could be waiting for them. And knowing he's armed, tensions
00:04:57
are as high as ever for these cops. These things 49 on Lester and Channer. Jesus Christ.
00:05:24
After searching the remaining rooms inside the house, the suspect was nowhere to be found. But just as they
00:05:30
thought they would be coming out with nothing, they received this message on the radio.
00:05:37
Red Hyundai at high rate of speeding going towards Idaho. An exact description of the car Julian
00:05:46
used to flee the scene just near their position, a red Hyundai Elantre. Officer Dollar wastes no time and hops into his
00:05:54
car. He must get to the suspect as fast as possible before the police lose track
00:06:00
of him again. Vehicle should have a black bumper the note possibly headed towards Lester and
00:06:04
it is going to be a newer model 25 southbound on a speed at high rate of speed just passer
00:06:11
southbound high rate of speed. Pursuit authorized suspect gun. All right, he's going to stop. He's
00:06:21
stopping in Milton. He's got a gun. Central. He just shot at me three or four times on two four.
00:06:44
The pursuit continued until the suspect closed into the intersection of University Wave and Espina Street. A red
00:06:51
light was shining bright for Julian to stop, but he didn't care and pushed on the gas. And just as he thought he could
00:06:57
make it across, the suspect [music] plummets right into a silver car, knocking the innocent
00:07:08
driver to the side of the road. The officers in pursuit [music] sped up to the crash, but they can't rush to
00:07:14
apprehend him just yet, as he already fired multiple rounds at Detective Dollar just a minute ago. And there was
00:07:20
every reason to believe he will do it again. So they have to be ready to take Julian down if he makes any sudden
00:07:27
moves. Show me youring hands. Do it now. DO IT NOW. Show me your [screaming] hands.
00:07:37
Get on theing ground. Under multiple gun sites, the suspect has no other choice than to step out of
00:07:44
the car and lie on the ground. Although he looks disabled, this doesn't satisfy Officer Dollar and his colleagues. From
00:07:51
what they know, the suspect is still armed and could be pretending to be injured to try and catch them by
00:07:57
surprise. Officer Dollar wasn't going to take any chances. So, he decided to deploy a different weapon to make the
00:08:04
suspect obey their commands. You I got the dog now. Stay overhead. Call it. Right now, Julian seems disabled enough.
00:08:34
A crash that could have killed him only left him with a concussion. He can't even stand up. Using a canine in this
00:08:41
scenario would be an overkill. But officer Dollar had already made up his mind a few moments ago.
00:08:52
Ready? But this is where officers would go too far and it would actually impact this
00:09:04
entire case. Later on, Officer Dollar's dog would bite into Julian just like instructed. However, it would take 2
00:09:10
minutes of struggle to make the dog finally let go of the suspect's flesh. The law doesn't prohibit a dog to bite
00:09:18
and hold the suspect. However, the important part of using a canine is to make sure the suspect does not sustain
00:09:25
unnecessary injuries during the arrest. Officer Dollar's K9 succeeded at holding
00:09:30
the suspect. But this is where the officer met a serious challenge. He could not make the dog release the
00:09:36
suspect. [music] Even after being subdued and posing no further harm to the police officers, the dog continued
00:09:42
to hold on to the suspect's arm, causing him more injuries. This is a clear case
00:09:47
of excessive force and would impact the rest of this case. Dollar's decision to use canine will be reviewed and
00:09:54
re-evaluated as the investigation into the case progresses. But for now, the suspect's bite wounds
00:10:02
were too severe to ignore and his overall condition suggested heavy alcohol intoxication or even worse. So
00:10:09
to make sure Julian lived long enough to face justice, the cops decided to get him to the hospital and treat his
00:10:15
wounds. While this team of officers was transporting the suspect, another team at the crime scene was collecting
00:10:21
evidence to build a strong case against Julian and charge him for his evil crime.
00:10:27
But there was a problem. They didn't know who he really was and how the crime first unfolded. His wife was in critical
00:10:36
condition and her kids were too traumatized to talk with law enforcement, at least for now. The only
00:10:41
hope they've got lies in the hands of witnesses. Only their stories could reveal how [music] much of an awful
00:10:48
person Julian really is. And luckily for the officers, the witnesses were not afraid to speak out against this
00:10:55
monster. What' you see, man? I was uh over there right across the stop sign like uh on the other side of
00:11:03
and cousin. We're looking in front of us and we're just like like we see a car speeding so fast, right? And it's like
00:11:10
we're looking at him and he's mad dogging us. Really mad looking dude. I'm lace. He saw his face more than me. I
00:11:15
went inside. Thought what was the car? Like greenish reddish. It was a hundred and they started screaming. They were
00:11:23
having like he went in there and I guess they were having an argument and I heard
00:11:26
like b three times. I think he unloaded probably more than five. Five. Yeah, probably more than five. And um that's
00:11:33
whenever he came outside and then that's whenever I was like he's actually shooting. So we like ran back inside. He
00:11:39
got in his car and then he shot like that way. He shot that way like Yeah. towards the like the truck.
00:11:44
He just went like this and he shot towards that way. Right. Towards this way. Yeah. Somewhere over
00:11:48
there. That officer, the bald officer. Mhm. Uh I see his car come right here and
00:11:53
they meet and he throws a shot and leaves. When he was coming this way was whenever
00:11:58
we saw the cop. So we waved at him and we're like he just shot somebody. He just shot somebody. And then the car
00:12:03
went that way. And then right as soon as he got like little bit past that uh that
00:12:07
little Mexican truck, he shot again towards over there. Well, I don't know if he shot up or I don't know where he
00:12:13
shot, but we were already running inside. If what these eyewitnesses are telling
00:12:17
is true, then the whole shooting had a long and steady buildup to it. But what the next witness had to say would give
00:12:24
officers even more disturbing insight into Julian's terrifying actions. Um, but the other night, um, they had
00:12:32
domestics and she was yelling, "You're going to me." and he was had her by her hair and he was stalking her, dragging
00:12:39
her outside, just stalking her. When was that? Like two nights ago. Two nights ago.
00:12:44
Yeah. Two nights ago. Wasn't a mira. They were yelling. Like we always hear them fighting and
00:12:47
arguing and Yeah. And was she on the ground? Yeah. And he he was dragging her out of
00:12:52
her house and she was like this and he had her and he was, you know, throwing punches to her. And then the day after
00:12:59
that, um, she was parked right here. It was early in the morning. I just got back from taking these kids to school. I
00:13:05
saw her in her car and the kids were still back there and she was sitting the front seat and he was on the other side
00:13:10
and it looked like they were arguing in the vehicle and she started hitting her head on their steering wheel and
00:13:15
punching the steering wheel and they were arguing and finally he got out of her vehicle and then you know he took
00:13:21
off and then the next day that's when he had her by the hair dragging her out. She was giving a
00:13:29
not only did Julian physically abuse his wife, but also threatened her life multiple times before actually going and
00:13:37
fulfilling those threats. There was only one person left to question, Jasmine herself, the victim of
00:13:45
this twisted crime. Only she could tell the true story behind closed doors. That
00:13:50
is if she would ever recover from this vicious attack. Doctors could not promise her survival. Two shots to the
00:13:57
abdomen are too severe for any person to survive. Likely, it was already too late
00:14:03
for her. That's why the officers transporting Julian to the hospital needed Julian to
00:14:10
survive. They wanted to hear his side of the story and understand one simple question. What drove him to try and the
00:14:17
life of his own wife and the mother of his four little boys? But when they finally arrived at the hospital, cops
00:14:25
quickly ran into a new problem. Mhm. Yeah. So, stop kicking the nerves. I bet. Shut the up.
00:14:42
Who the is that you? Hey, there's sick people, mother. Hey, calm down. You understand me? You
00:14:49
calm down. Let's There's There's kids around here, dude. They don't care that. I know you don't,
00:14:55
but I do. What do you guys do? I stop. What the This is what happens. Nurses. Michael,
00:15:03
dude, help. Get off my feet. Right now, you're not going to like this. So, I'm going to try you to calm
00:15:09
down. Okay. We're going to photograph your injuries. I'm not completely understand.
00:15:16
Okay. Oh, we asked the doctor. So, how do we shoot? Hey, dude. Let's go, man. Let's go, man.
00:15:29
We got you going to sit on this wheelchair. We're going to wheel you out to the car.
00:15:33
Okay. Right after the crash, the police discovered a pistol with an empty magazine along with several half empty
00:15:40
bottles of beer inside. This [music] explains Julian's erratic behavior during and after the arrest.
00:15:47
Additionally, on his way to the police station, Julian admitted to shooting his wife in cold blood, all without
00:15:53
interrogation. But as you'll soon see during the questioning, even details like this can suddenly vanish. Because
00:16:00
once they brought Julian to the interrogation room, he had already forgotten everything.
00:16:06
Had an old mind. Do you want to talk to me? Kind of give me your version of what's been happening and what not.
00:16:11
I know what's happening. I've been drinking for 3 days. Just seeing our eyes. What? If you want to keep them closed
00:16:22
and it's easier for you to talk that way and you're not struggling, that's fine.
00:16:25
Just don't fall asleep. What happened to me? Was there anything other than alcohol you were drinking? No.
00:16:30
What type of alcohol you drink? Budweiser. Budweisers. Okay. Can or bottle? Bottles. Okay. So, for three Why for 3
00:16:44
days? What's been going on? You and your old lady been having some problems? No.
00:16:52
Huh? This only confirms why Julian is so visibly intoxicated. And it's honestly a
00:16:58
surprise he's even able to understand and talk with the officer. Still, his condition might complicate the
00:17:04
interrogation process. After all, alcohol can lead to lapses in memory. He simply might not remember the events of
00:17:11
that evening. A perfect excuse for someone like him in this situation. But this isn't going to be good enough for
00:17:17
Detective Melinda to accept. So, he keeps pressing for a confession. What? What happened at the house with your
00:17:24
wife? With Jasmine? I remember. I think you do cuz you told them what happened. I remember going in there.
00:17:38
Mhm. Where'd you pull the gun out from? My pocket. Which side? Which pocket did you have it
00:17:47
in? I don't remember. What type of gun is it? I don't know what kind of gun it is. I
00:17:53
don't even know what's going on. I just see I just know I cannot see nothing. Okay.
00:18:02
Trying to open my That's fine, dude. I don't want you to see anything. I want you to remember
00:18:06
things and talk to me about things. I can't I can't even model. That's never happened to me. Little did Detective
00:18:15
Melinda realize that getting any information from this suspect was going to be the most challenging thing he had
00:18:21
to do in his career. But it doesn't stop him from using the oldest trick in the book to make Julian talk.
00:18:27
Were you guys arguing? Were you fighting? Were you sorry for So let's go back to You pulled a gun out
00:18:38
of your pocket, right? No. [music] No. So, everything you've told officers that are on that is on camera, now
00:18:46
you're saying you don't remember. I don't. But here's the thing, Julian. You've already said what happened.
00:18:55
Said in in the situation. I do. No, [music] you said what happened. The officers
00:19:01
have already told us. Is she okay? [music] Do you want to know if she's okay from
00:19:07
what? Well, that's obvious. What? [music] What's obvious? [snorts] Well, what happened?
00:19:15
You tell me. I love her every day. Uh-huh. What's been going on? Like, is she doubting how much you love
00:19:23
her? Did you get caught doing something you weren't supposed to be doing? No, it's nothing like that.
00:19:33
Mhm. Do you guys just have arguments here and there? Julian might not remember this too, but
00:19:39
there are plenty of people who can speak about his of people weaker than him. At
00:19:44
this point, Detective Melinda barely holds himself together. For him, getting any meaningful information out of Julian
00:19:51
is almost impossible. However, there is still one more [music] thing Detective Melinda can use to make Julian talk. In
00:20:00
fact, what he doesn't know is that his kids are in the same building with him, just above this interrogation room. They
00:20:08
were brought here to the police station to decide their father's fate. And they're about to reveal exactly what
00:20:16
went down mere hours earlier. But before we get to that, I want to talk about a murder that happened across the country
00:20:23
in Cedar Creek, California. This is a popular influencer, Haley Rose. and Haley was mysteriously murdered. With
00:20:31
Cold Case VR, the sponsor of today's video, use over 75 pieces of evidence, including police reports, witness
00:20:38
statements, CCTV footage, interrogations, and so much more to bring justice to Haley and arrest her
00:20:45
evil killer. Even better is that the entire investigation is done using their virtual reality goggles, making the
00:20:51
experience like no other true crime party game. You know how much my videos depend on the clues found in the
00:20:57
surveillance. And this game feels just like solving a real crime. I played this game with my friends and using my
00:21:02
investigative knowledge from producing all of these YouTube videos, I cracked the case and solved the murder before
00:21:07
anyone else. And the best part, I managed to strike a deal just for you guys. By using the code insanity, you
00:21:14
get 30% off your purchase, making this the perfect Christmas gift. So, if you ever wanted to experience what it's like
00:21:20
to solve the cases in my videos firsthand, then click the link in the description and purchase Cold Case VR,
00:21:26
the case of the fatal follower today. Thank you to Abacus for sponsoring us and allowing us to create this content
00:21:33
for you. But we have to get back to Julian Valenuela because his own children are about to expose him and
00:21:40
what exactly went down that night. However, interrogating a child is no easy task for cops. That's why the
00:21:47
police department recruited two professional child psychologists to discover more details of Julian's murder
00:21:53
attempt from these four young minds. Still, kids may be uneducated, but they won't tell you anything unless you
00:22:01
become their friend. And these female psychologists knew exactly how to do it. In 1 and 1/2 hours, they will build
00:22:09
trust with all four kids. four-year-old Julian, 5-year-old Benjamin, six-year-old Matthew, and 10-year-old
00:22:16
Isaiah. And talk about how daddy their own mommy, not even realizing they will maximize their father's sentence behind
00:22:24
bars. Benjamin was the first kid to be asked about what he saw that fateful evening.
00:22:32
Do you like to color? Yeah. Yeah. Here, I got some paper right here. You want me to move it closer? Yeah.
00:22:40
Okay. I'm going to write your name. And your name is Benjamin. Is that right? Yeah. Benjamin Valenuela.
00:22:47
Benjamin Valenuela. Yeah. How old are you, Benjamin? Five. You're five. Benjamin, I'm going to draw
00:22:55
your face right here. Okay. No. Do you play with anybody? Do you have any brothers or sisters or something
00:23:02
else? You have brothers. So, I'm going to put Matthew Venuela. Matthew Valenuela and then
00:23:11
Isaiah Gonzola. Isaiah Valenuela. Drawing their faces, writing down the names of their siblings, and asking
00:23:20
about their favorite things. All minor but important things to elicit positive emotions in Benjamin's mind. That is
00:23:28
until they start talking about their father and what he did to Jasmine. Tell me about um mommy or daddy or
00:23:37
somebody else. Um, my mom my my dad is bad now. Your dad is bad now. Tell me about dad
00:23:43
being bad now. My dad My mom Your dad got your mom and then what happened? And my my mom
00:23:54
they got no weapons. Mom don't got no weapons. And then you said dad is bad now because he mom.
00:24:00
Yeah. Yeah. What? My name. Don't put his name. Okay. I won't put his name. Okay. Where did mom get?
00:24:08
On the stomach everywhere. On the stomach everywhere. What did he shoot mom with?
00:24:14
With his pistol. With his pistol. What did the pistol look like? Uh AK-47. A AK-47.
00:24:23
Okay. But I was at the living room. I saw daddy's mom. You were at the living room and you saw
00:24:30
daddy mom. What did daddy say when he mom? He was just kind of yelling and my dad's just
00:24:41
Well, thank you for telling me what happened to mom. Despite Benjamin being a wellspoken kid,
00:24:47
his mind might be a little confused because, well, there's no such thing as an AK-47 pistol. This may be a child's
00:24:56
imagination, but how does he know what an AK-47 is? Was it something his dad talked about or even owned at one point?
00:25:04
For young Benjamin, it didn't matter. He was too afraid to remember. Benjamin, tell me, do you ever feel
00:25:11
scared? When do you feel scared? Of the shot. Of the shot? Yeah. No one was fighting.
00:25:19
Only my dad was fighting. And then with this one and this one and then up and then boom.
00:25:29
You with this one and load it up and then boom them. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Benjamin, tell me. Uh, do you feel safe
00:25:36
with mommy? Yeah. How about with daddy? Do you feel safe with daddy? No. No. No. Because daddy my mom.
00:25:46
Okay. Well, thank you, Benjamin, for letting me learn about you. You want to go back into the other room and play?
00:25:53
Yeah. Yeah. What are you playing in the other room? Uh, so who are you playing with?
00:25:59
What? It's Matthew and I. Okay. As Benjamin leaves the room, the psychologist returns to prepare the room
00:26:07
for the next kid, four-year-old Julian. They follow the same steps to establish a positive connection before moving on
00:26:14
to the most important part of this conversation. Julian, tell me about a mommy or a daddy
00:26:19
or something else. Draw a daddy. Actually, draw daddy. Daddy's really big. Daddy's really big.
00:26:26
Yeah, he has a big stomach. Daddy has a big stomach. Yeah. So, my and Daddy just
00:26:39
mom and my mom was in the corner in the kitchen and and daddy had a gun and and he mom.
00:26:48
So, you said last night did daddy mom. Yeah. Right here. So you got mom right here and right here and right here.
00:26:56
Yeah. And and and mom is in the hospital now. And mom's in the hospital now. Yeah.
00:27:04
So far Julian's story of what happened sounds similar to what his brother Benjamin told. Still, there is something
00:27:10
Julian told so suddenly that it even surprised the psychologist. D comes and and the cops come and there's four cops
00:27:20
and and there's the gangsters. There's the gangsters there. Yeah. Who are the gangsters?
00:27:31
Sure. For shooting. Do you know the gangsters? Yeah. What are their names? The gangsters?
00:27:42
Ryan and and D. It's hard to assess if it's the kid's imagination or if his father hung out
00:27:52
with criminals in their own house. The thing is, little Julian remembers their name. So, it might be the case that
00:28:00
those gangsters not only knew his father, but also provided him with the guns, including the AK and a shotgun.
00:28:08
Now, it's up to the psychologist to get to the bottom of this disturbing information.
00:28:13
Tell me, what did dad shoot mom with? Well, with the gun. With the gun? Mom was messing with daddy.
00:28:21
Mom was messing with daddy. She was yelling at him and and now he right here. Right here. Right here.
00:28:29
What was she saying when she was yelling at him? She said, "You said that dad mom and that she was
00:28:39
laying on the floor in the kitchen." And her four times. I mean, three times. Okay. Is there anything else that you
00:28:53
want to talk about today? Yeah. Yeah. Tell me. Me and Matthew were fighting. You and Matthew were fighting?
00:29:00
Yeah. And then what happened? Right into to the TV. And when there was playing Goss
00:29:07
and the little TV on the little TV. Yeah. Yeah. I spawned in and TV. When was playing go? There's Franklin and and
00:29:18
Trevor and and Michael. Are they real people? Are they people in the game or something else?
00:29:24
In the game. in the game. Okay, the psychologist can rest easy. Those gangsters are just part of the game.
00:29:31
Still, it is neglectful of parents to let their kids play these games at such a young age. With this conversation
00:29:37
over, the psychologist invited the third kid, 6-year-old Matthew. However, Matthew has nothing else to add and
00:29:44
shared the same story his two other siblings told the psychologist, especially going over the same murder
00:29:50
weapon and insults both yelled at each other. With this, Matthew leaves the room and the next and final kid enters
00:29:57
Julian's oldest son. And well, most important for this investigation, 10-year-old Isaiah. Since he's much
00:30:05
older than his brothers, he possesses a better awareness of the situation, meaning he could provide clearer details
00:30:11
about the crime. And the psychologist understands that, which is why she's going to try a different approach with
00:30:17
him. Do you have any questions about that? No. No. Okay. Well, just so you know, no
00:30:21
friends or family or anything like that get to listen while we talk. Okay. All right. You feeling okay?
00:30:28
All right. Well, if at any time you need to take a break or you just need a second, let me know. Okay.
00:30:35
With this mature approach, Isaiah doesn't tell much to the psychologist except one crucial detail. The shooting
00:30:43
was a climax, and Isaiah saw the buildup to the shooting long before anyone else.
00:30:50
Isaiah, have there been times when you heard fighting or arguing something else at home?
00:30:56
Tell me about that. He was just arguing about my home and then yesterday he pulled up by my
00:31:05
mom's work and he threw a bottle on the floor in front of my mom's work. Is that something that you heard about
00:31:14
or something you saw or something? when she was on the phone telling someone. Oh, okay. Isaiah, when was it that he
00:31:23
your mom today? Today with Isaiah's last story shared, the interrogation can be wrapped up and
00:31:31
summarized. The detectives now know that Julian has a long history of abinging his wife with intent and even desire to
00:31:39
her. And nothing could [music] have stopped him, even his own kids. And finally, the of their own mother right
00:31:47
before their eyes. Now, the detective can use this information to corner Julian, confront
00:31:54
him, and force him to make a confession. So, they would bring him right back to the room where they started their
00:32:00
discussions. You don't remembering your wife? I don't remember that. Because your kids do.
00:32:07
Your kids are telling us daddy mama. That's what your kids are saying. But you're going to sit here and play this
00:32:14
crap that I don't remember anything when you've already said it to the other officers and I got multiple kids, your
00:32:21
kids saying, "Daddy, not mommy." And you're going to sit here and play this game that I don't remember
00:32:28
anything. I can't see. I can't see. I don't remember anything. Then why are they saying daddy not
00:32:35
mommy? I don't know. You don't know why they're saying that? No. Let me guess. cuz your wife is making
00:32:42
them say that, right? Is that the route you want to go on? I don't know. You know what I find funny, Julian? Or
00:32:48
not funny, but disheartening? You have to ask me how your wife is doing, whether she's alive or not.
00:32:54
I love her. Apparently, not that much, cuz you I don't remember doing that. You don't remember doing that?
00:33:01
No. Tired of hearing the same excuse over and over again, Detective Melinda takes his gloves off and delivers a
00:33:09
satisfying [music] beatdown to Julian's poor excuses. But you know who's going to remember
00:33:14
that forever? Her and your kids. Cuz daddy mommy. And then when they figure all this out
00:33:23
and find out daddy didn't have the courage to be honest about what happened. He sat
00:33:30
there and said, "I've been drinking for 4 days. I don't remember anything." That's what you want people to remember
00:33:36
you as. I remember begging her on my phone. Begging her what? Begging to be with her.
00:33:45
She want to be with you. I don't know. Go off the phone. Juliet, let me ask you a question.
00:33:52
I can't I can't breathe. Hey, let me ask you a specific question. You remember there's beer in the car?
00:34:01
There's a lot of beer. Do you remember that there's beer in the car? I remember there's a lot of beer.
00:34:09
Okay. But you don't remember your wife? No. So beer is more important than your wife.
00:34:14
I don't want to know what's going on. I want to know if she's okay. I'm waiting to hear back from El Paso to
00:34:20
see if she's okay or if I don't know if she's even alive right now, dude. I'm trying to find all that out,
00:34:30
but I can't even get you to tell me what happened. All I remember is going inside the house
00:34:36
and that was it. Okay. From there, everything's a blur. I was drunk and I'm still drunk.
00:34:44
That's not what you said to the officers earlier. That's because I was drunk. And when you're
00:34:49
drunk, you say stupid thing. I wanted the cops to kill me. How? How was that going to happen?
00:34:58
I wanted them to shoot me. How? Why? I don't know. Cops don't just shoot people for no
00:35:05
reason. Why would they have shot you? Did they shoot at you tonight? What do you think?
00:35:12
I don't remember. You don't remember? After using his own words against him, getting verbally
00:35:18
beaten down by the detective, and even bringing up his kids, Julian still refuses to remember anything prior to
00:35:27
this interrogation. This makes things even worse for him. If he doesn't talk now, the cops will write down their own
00:35:35
version of the story that will be used to prosecute him if Julian does not comply. All Julian needs is to talk.
00:35:43
That's what I'm going to put on my paperwork. Okay. When I charge you with attempted
00:35:48
aggravated battery with a dead weapon and all the other charges that go along with this, my final statement in that
00:35:54
paper is going to say, "I don't remember. I was drunk for 4 days." That's what you want me to put in the
00:36:01
paperwork. Is that what you want me to put? I want you to put that because I don't
00:36:06
remember. But I'm also going to put in there during earlier contact on camera he stated this that he did shoot his
00:36:14
wife that he did do this when officer stopped him cuz that's all stuff I can prove Julian.
00:36:21
Okay. So when I hopefully your wife survives and when I talk to her I'll tell her
00:36:27
what you just said. Don't say that. I don't No, but that's what you're tell I'm telling her what you tell you. Tell her
00:36:37
that I love her so much. No. If I knew what was going on and I knew my the severity of my charges, I would
00:36:44
be crying my ass off. I don't think so, dude. I think we're wasting our time. I mean, you can't even man up to to what
00:36:54
you did. With this interrogation finally done, Julian is returned back to his cell where he would spend hours
00:37:01
wondering why he ultimately left all his four children without their mother. Little did he realize, Jasmine survived.
00:37:12
3 days after the shooting, Jasmine finally opened her eyes. She had gone through an operation that saved her life
00:37:19
and the officers made sure to visit immediately, not only to check on her, but also to finally hear her side of
00:37:26
this twisted case. Okay, Jazz, I'm Detective W. This is Detective Zo. Uh, we've been checking up
00:37:34
on you. They told me that you you're able to kind of talk what has happened. Mhm.
00:37:42
And blue oxide. And who is he? And what is Julian to you? With this statement alone, it will be
00:37:55
much easier for the cops to make Julian pay for his crimes. Even if Julian doesn't remember anything, Jasmine's
00:38:02
phone recorded everything he had said to her. What do you think? What sparked? I didn't want to be.
00:38:11
Okay. Was that a verbal conversation you had or what happened? Okay. He lied to me.
00:38:21
Uh-huh. He said he was going to confront that. Uhhuh. So I waited. Okay. And your text messages with him.
00:38:32
Any threats or anything said over the phone? What were those? All the messages. Other than the text messages, was there
00:38:39
any phone conversations? Yeah. What did that help him to do what he need to do? Did he threaten you on the phone before
00:38:47
that? What did he say? He needs to do stuff. What do you think that meant? Did he ever mention or threaten you
00:39:01
before? Yeah. Every time I say I don't want you to threaten me. Uh-huh. And then next thing you know,
00:39:11
he's there at the house. Okay. And then you're in the kitchen. He walks in. Does
00:39:15
he say anything to you? Says, "I think I'm playing." Mhm. And what do you say? So, what are you doing?
00:39:25
Mhm. Okay. Where are the kids at this [music] time? They were in the room. They're in the room.
00:39:36
And then he shot the camera. Uhhuh. Had you ever seen him with a gun before? Yep.
00:39:45
What type of gun? One can only imagine what horrors Jasmine and her kids had to endure. But
00:39:52
in the end, she can finally rest knowing well that her was finally arrested and will never be able to hurt her again.
00:40:00
and what she would tell the officer now will [music] make sure Julian will be gone for a long time.
00:40:07
We did arrest him. He's in jail right now and we don't look to keep him. You want to press charges? Well, we're
00:40:16
going forward. So, I did um based on the information that we had is essentially attempting on you. Um because all the
00:40:26
kids were there, I charged him as well. Obviously, he was drinking. So, the DWI,
00:40:31
the aggravated on the officer, and then the reason he's had like nine or 10 charges on.
00:40:38
This final statement from Jasmine will be the one to seal Julian's fate come court time. But before Julian's court
00:40:45
trial, an internal investigation was conducted on Officer Dollar's decision to use a canine in the arrest. The
00:40:52
witnesses were questioned with Officer Dollar being interrogated separately. In the end, officer Dollar was found guilty
00:40:58
of using excessive force during the arrest. The city of Los Cusus had to pay Julian Valenuela, the victim of K9
00:41:05
mauling, $30,000.