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there are only a few times in history where suspects managed to beat the cops at their own game from genius fugitives
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to civilians who embarrassed cops so bad they had to leave here are five times suspects outsmarted cops promise you I'm
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not no damn person escaping You' have done run by now starting with the case of Joshua Lloyd who in July of 2022 was
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geocaching Phoenix Arizona geocaching is an activity where people hide physical containers known as Cashes in different
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places around the world and others solve puzzles in order to find them Joshua is
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currently searching on the side of a public road but it seems somebody wasn't too happy about this oh hold on we got
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the cops they're going to run my license plate morning can I help you I know can
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we help you do you live here no but this is public correct uh I'm not sure on that could be private property could be
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but if there was I do believe there would be a sign posted somewhere right not necessarily is that your car that is
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my car okay well if it is public I mean I would figure it's public you have electric access here is there anybody in
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the car no just me but if you want to go check go ahead go check okay can I get your permission to do anything else no
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do I need your permission you would need my permission to go inside the car no but you just said if you want to go
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check if there's someone else in the car do I oh yeah yeah yeah go check and you
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can go look in and see tell me go ahead do I need you to tell me to go ahead to do it or can I do it on my own looks
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like this officer isn't having a good day at the first possible moment he decides to start an argument out of
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nothing he is right that he doesn't need permission to look inside the car but Joshua is just trying to be polite
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there's no need whatsoever for the cop to make this difficult this little rant of his seems almost born out of
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insecurity and that becomes a pattern as the footage progresses well I mean you could do it on your own you can do a
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plain view search like I thought you were under the you had to give me permission I mean would you guys like my
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name I'll give you my name you don't have to run the plate for it cuz my name's not on the plate what's your name
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my name is Josh Josh mhm Joshua what Lloyd hey Phil josua lyd huh Joshua you're not Towing my car we may have to
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tow it it's not registered to him it's registered to a female it's aband it's left on the roadway running I'm not
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going to leave it here o are you serious not even going to question me on who's who it's registered to would you like
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the insurance registration oh you're not driving it why would I ask for that it seems as though this cop is trying to
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make everything into a bigger deal than it needs to be sure it might seem odd that the car is registered to a
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different name next to a guy that appears to have just been staring at a wall for 30 minutes but we know that
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Josh has a reasonable explanation for it just the same as the cops would if they
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bothered to ask but instead the cop just decides that the best idea is to tow the
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car and call the owner instead of just talking to the guy that's explicitly saying he can explain everything I'm
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going to try and get a hold of the owner see if they know where the car is otherwise she'll tell you that her
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son-in-law has it you're going to let him act like that just because I'm standing over here next to a wall and
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you guys haven't even asked me what I'm doing I even like turned around I gave you the thumbs up he comes out all hard
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why I'm not trying to catch you in anything man asking a simple question the other cop smirk says it all he's
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well aware that his partner's behavior is unre reble and frankly just weird but at the same time he can't badmouth him
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either have you been allowed to use the car I live with her yes and I'm allowed to use the car hence the reason why I
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have it okay all right well we're going to do some research find out whose property that is you got your name your
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information if it turns out that it is private property then I'll author a report for trespassing I don't think it
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would be private property because what I was doing was a public event so you guys
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never even ask me statement I don't think that's why I'm going to find out for sure whose property okay you go go
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ahead for sure again here's the thing I don't need your permission to check out whose property it is but I appreciate
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you giving me the goad can I have your name and badge number your card 8632 8632 you're you're recording it okay can
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I have your name and badge number please fora 88 all right thank you I greatly appreciate that the way the second cop
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acts after his partner leaves is like he's brought his kid along to work and he's telling Josh to just let him have
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his fun regardless the first officer tells Josh that they're going to head off and do research to make sure this
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isn't private property but even if it was it'd be incredibly hard to convict him of trespassing anyway as you can
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tell from the footage the area of land he was on is directly next to a public sidewalk and there is no signage
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alluding to the fact that the grass is somehow private property however even if it was because of the lack of signage
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Josh would never be made aware that he shouldn't be there meaning it's impossible to claim he knowingly entered
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private property the legal definition of trespassing but before he lets the cops
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go Josh has just one more thing to say to them hey Jos I could do some further research before you go on a property
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find you know you know hold on hold on before before you go and give me the lecture how about this before you come
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up all hard ass on somebody you ask them what they're doing you could ask me simply at the very beginning very nicely
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hey what are you doing do the research and find out whose property you on because you may be breaking the law it's
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public property I can tell you that stating that as a fact I am I'm stating it as a fact because I like [ __ ] with
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you guys well now you're using more profanity I can use profanity it's the first amendment it's the first amendment
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you cannot restrict my speech I can use it to emphasize my sentences one man's curse word is Another Man's Lyric Josh
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articulates everything perfect L and of course is perfectly correct throughout this entire interaction he provided
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everything the cops asked for and more remained polite throughout most of the conversation and most importantly knew
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the law down to a te but with all of that said he was still treated badly by this cop who frankly had no idea what he
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was talking about he's completely right to explain his Free Speech rides too but
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to explain this further let's take a look at the case of Tom a teenager who managed to totally schooled two cops
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when he was pulled over by cops who also had no idea what the law was you idiot this man was walking down
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the side of a road when a police officer passed him as they drove by the man flipped him off breaking no laws in
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doing so but the cops still got personally offended and decided to do this why you get me the
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fing what what's your problem what why you get me the finger I'm walking away huh am I free to go why
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you giv me the am I free to go no come here for what reason the man who will'll call Tom gets pulled over for allegedly
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flipping off an officer immediately after talking with the officer Tom asks if he's free to go and if he's not why
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he's being detained predictably the officer isn't able to give a great response to either of these completely
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valid questions a problem am I free to go no what do you have a problem no you have a problem no you don't have a
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problem then we I leave why you you giving me the finger when you're walking huh come here I'm free to
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go get over here why because is that a lawful order yeah for what reason because you're giving me the finger
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that's legal no it isn't that's who what's the law what's your name the what's your name old conveniently it
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isn't difficult to find the law on this one perhaps unsurprisingly contempt of cop or police disrespect is an
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incredibly common Catalyst for unlawful arrest however it's very easy to prove that swearing or gesturing at a cop in a
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non-threatening way is completely legal across the us freedom of speech is of course protected under the First
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Amendment right and courts have concluded that giving the finger counts as protected speech in fact in 2006 a
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case was open against a man in a very similar position and the court explicitly stated that directing the
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middle finger at an officer is protected expression under the First Amendment meaning that Tom is well within his
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rights to flip the officer off but unfortunately the situation begins to escalate and even more words are
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exchanged [ __ ] pig whatever [ __ ] you what you afraid of you come here come here get over here what get over here
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I'm not doing anything illegal yeah you are you just cursed me off that's not a crime yes it is says who says me turn
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around come on bro that is not a [ __ ] crime yes it is why you cursing me it's not a crime what's your name it's not a
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crime what's your name help help help at this point the officer turns off his body camera which on top
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of being illegal definitely isn't the best thing to do as you're handling a civilian who's screaming for help this
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time the cop cites Tom's more recent expletives as the reason for arrest but once again Tom is completely allowed to
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say what he said the law says the only words not protected by the First Amendment are fighting words intended to
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incite an immediate breach of peace or or in short words that directly threaten someone or imply that the speaker is
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going to physically attack someone obviously what Tom said falls into neither of these categories and as
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backup arrives the cop starts to realize that he might be in the wrong you're being detained because you're acting Str
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what that's not legal it is legal he's allowed to detain you until he performs what am I doing though what am I doing
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that made him detain me what legal right time I wrote by him twice he shot me finger so I turned around say well
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you're is that a crime then he me no that's not a crime off Pig yeah [ __ ] off pig that's not a crime he's looking at
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you cuz he's like what the [ __ ] you want me to do cuz there it's not a crime I
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know my rights I don't have to say any of that uh you do if you're being detained for what reason what legal
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reason am I being detained for where are you coming from and where are you what legal reason am I being
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detained for I need to know that legally I need to know that now the officers are
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telling Tom that he's legally required to identify if himself now that he's being detained despite not being able to
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provide a reason for his detention while this is often correct during an arrest in New Jersey a person being detained
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not suspected of committing a motor vehicle offense can refuse to give ID but the cops are still way behind on
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this now they can't even figure out why they're detaining him why are you shooting me to F why are you is that
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illegal why are youing bir yes it is is causing a public disturbance and a public alarm if you are cursing in
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public single so when you are cursing in public you are causing public disturbance you're being a nuisance to
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the public I'd like to see you guys prove it in court what he is doing is he's not saying you're being charged
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with anything at that point he's detaining to make sure that there is nothing wrong you're make sure you're
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okay what reason does he need to detain me he thought maybe he thought you were signaling him down I'm not sure he knew
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very well that I wasn't signaling to you right I wasn't signaling you bringing attention to yourself you're acting
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strange I'm making sure you're okay the officers are desperately trying to make excuses now and now seem to be claiming
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that this is a welfare check and Tom's middle finger was a signal for help luckily a case closed in 2013 explored
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this very same matter a cop observed a man giving him the finger and pulled him over stating he thought he was trying to
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get his attention and was concerned but the court eventually ruled that quote this ancient gesture of insult is not
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the basis for a reasonable suspicion of a traffic violation of impending criminal activity so with this in mind
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it's extremely likely that the court would decide that the cop was lying here as well even without the body cam
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footage but the best part of this entire investigation is watching the officer's
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face as he tries to escape the hole he's dug for himself you cursing and using vulgar gestures is causing a amendment
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is causing a public public disturbance First Amendment for First Amendment is for your freedom of speech okay what
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does that have to do with with was I making a c action was I making a cold action was I like threat you in any way
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did I threaten do you understand a call to action is do you understand you're is
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that a call to action am I calling for an action to be done against you list listen listen it's it's it's
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Behavior that's out of deep order one was it so what were you doing well I want to know from your perspective on
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the scene so you tell me what you were doing bring I play the fth you [ __ ] idiot what has now
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turned into an argument lasts for a few more minutes before Tom finally gives in
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and hands his ID over and is told he's free to leave remember he was not legally required to identify himself but
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that was the only thing that got the officers to let him go Tom also informed the officers that he intended to pursue
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legal action but very little information about this is publicly available or the
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fates of these horrifyingly corrupt officers both of these cases have featured people who knew the law
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perfectly and managed to defend their own rights from corrupt officers but let's flip the perspective quickly and
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look at Criminal criminals who were so smart they managed to escape the cops with crafty techniques and Street smarts
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one such case is that of Quantrell schwartzlow who managed to outsmart cops by escaping custody in just
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[Music] seconds Quantrell was brought in for strangling a girl and assaulting her a
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crime he clearly didn't want to be convicted of [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh no unfortunately for quantell his
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handcuffs were a dead giveaway and he was captured 4 hours later of course this isn't the only example of suspects
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escaping police custody in fact Richard McNair's Escape Plan was so smart he managed to stay out of jail for8 18
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months but not without an extremely close call Richard was originally arrested for the shooting of two men
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after he was caught robbing a house in North Dakota one was badly injured and the other died at the scene Richard was
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given three life sentences for this but he had absolutely no intention of sticking around for any of this in 2006
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he managed to escape from the prison by burying himself in a pile of mail and being carried straight out the door but
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just hours later he was stopped by police while Jo walking away from the prison you live around here bud no where
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you live at down the road by uh Pineville pville uh-huh okay do you have any form identification on you no man
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what's your name Robert Jones Richard appears calm cool and collected while talking to the cop and gives the
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innocent Alias of Robert Jones stating that he's just out jogging around where he's stationed for work that's not the
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problem right now where you what's your address I don't have an address I'm at the hotel we're working on uh houses and
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stuff I got the roing what is we got an escaping oh [ __ ] where from prison there a prison
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here Richard must think that The Jig Is up but he manages to stay calm and play it cool he gives a simple neutral
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response and keeps his stance on the loose to avoid looking uneasy the cop then radios in for a detailed
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description of The Fugitive and attempts to match it up to Richard how old is your guy you're how old 50 I born in 56
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born in 56 58 col you got green well kind of a turquoise blue turquoise blue most
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people in this situation would be getting restless and giving short closed off responses because of nerves but
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Richard somehow manages to give full answers to everything and even jokes with the officer he's slowly trying to
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convince him that he's just a normal guy and that he's absolutely not hiding anything you know the bad thing about it
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you're match it up to him that sucks doesn't it yeah I don't even know address we just got got into
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town about a week ago and he dropped me off to jog I always jog about 12 mes a day where did he drop you off at up
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there on that road by uh there's some construction going on up there houses and he dropped me off he'll be back the
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hotel in about probably 10 minutes 15 minutes where are you from uh we're originally Dallas Texas what's your name
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again Jimmy Jones this should have been it for Richard he gives a completely different name to his original Alias but
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the cop somehow completely missed it and Carries regardless put yourself in my position where's y'all's motel at okay
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Walmart's right there go right at Walmart and there's a road 165 that goes south little old tiny Hotel I mean it's
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clean but and a it's familyowned little old tiny Hotel yeah you know like a motel deal you park up there um I
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promise you I'm not no damn pring escap You' have done run by now you know that yourself did you see anybody or anything
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there's some kids up there playing I'm sorry to have to hold you up but hey no I'm just doing my job man I know you are
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can you write down your uh phone number your cell phone number so I can have whoever call you just call 911 it's all
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you got to do and they'll get a hold to us all right that's our quick line there
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have a good day now be careful buddy thank you all right this was the last time Richard McNair was seen for 18
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months during his time on the Run he traveled using stolen cars and supplies from Louisiana all the way up to Canada
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where apparently he almost bought a property and attempted to settle down in October of 2007 Richard was finally
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caught and apprehended in New Brunswick after he was identified driving a stolen
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vehicle miles from where it was last reported despite quite literally being a murderer Richard did play this
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incredibly well and simply outsmarted the cop and all the others on his tail for a year and a half this cop must have
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been humiliated but not as much as the unfortunate officer who had a runin with Joel Delgado who had his Escape planed
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for days before it actually took place Joel had been arrested on a myriad of charges including Dr trafficking and
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shooting his girlfriend and was looking to go away for a long time but after his
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most recent arrest he told police that he'd been badly injured so was taken to court in a wheelchair this is why police
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were extremely shocked when this happened [Music] I'mma C you baby I'll put a [ __ ] we're someone confined to a
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wheelchair Joel sure can run as just seconds after escaping he completely disappeared see now which way you go
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right through the alley and cut that way what you need phone my damn Radio G hold on
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damn I tried to come behind you and get him I don't know where he went hey hu the wheelchair dude got up
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and ran yeah I couldn't catch his ass and my radio was in mother I had my camera on
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though the wheelchair dude I couldn't catch H TS had pulled off yeah I can't remember his name on the
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run all right hey he took off man what the wheelchair dude ran he had a n brace on
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and all this did he really yeah didn't need that wheelchair very much did he hell no unfortunately for
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Joel his freedom was shortlived as just a few hours later he was caught and arrested once more gaining nothing other
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than a of felony escape to add to the list it could be argued these last few cops had a simple lapse in judgment or
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simply got beaten in the moment but Mac Proctor proved that this cop had no idea
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what he was doing in the first place all by knowing the law and standing his ground Mac was parked in a private
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parking lot waiting for a takeout order while on his shift as a delivery driver while his vehicle wasn't in a designated
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parking spot it wasn't blocking the flow of traffic and he'd only left it there unattended while picking up his food
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Upon returning to his vehicle Mac was approached by a police officer stating he was violating parking
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rules all right Mr Proctor that is your last thing everything okay do I need to answer any of your
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questions you don't have to answer anything okay you don't have to lucky you stand here all day I get paid either
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way can you go ahead and finish your job so I can carry on what's with the anger
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dude I'm not angry you're not angry you always talk to everybody like that I'm I'm not angry oh okay I just want you to
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go ahead and wrap things up please okay of course Mac has every right to stay silent in the face of the officer's
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questions especially ones that don't at all pertain to criminal proceedings at no point did he raise his tone or say
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anything out of line yet the officer asks why he's being so angry many people think that some police officers are used
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to consistently being in command and control on these interactions and it's possible the same as true with this
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officer when Mack exercised his rights and just asked for things to be moved along this cop was surprised and took it
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as a combative statement all right well you know we give you a break on it but you know what I'm saying this isn't a
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parking spot okay dude you're not giving me a break you're harassing me at this point I'd like to leave may I leave now
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please well do you understand am I being detained yes you are okay all right so do you understand why I stopped
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you do I need to answer anymore your questions you don't have to okay the officer informs Mack that he is being
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detained for parking here to wish was Citation for parking violation you must be breaking either local state or
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federal law something like parking in a handicap spot without proper documentation hey Mr Proctor can I just
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give you your stuff so you can leave can you I can but you're the one I would have let you go a long time ago
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what do I need to do for you to hand me my documents so I can leave I'll you right now I just want to know that you
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know like you're okay cuz usually I don't get people what do I need to do for you to hand me my documents so I can
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be on my way you're okay I don't need to answer any your questions he there we go
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again Jesus Christ trying to say that uh you're trying to display your power to me right now I'm concerned about it is
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it a proba to be concerned about another human being you have no reason to be concerned about me so it's okay then
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you're okay then you can hand me my documents and I can be on my way ins okay you're not going to okay here
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I'll tell you what I'm going to take a chance on you all right here Mr Proctor um you're about everything's cool all
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right we're blocking traffic here your stuff Mac was allowed to leave without further incident but this interaction
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raises questions about why he was met with further difficulties after doing nothing other than exercising his Fifth
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Amendment right in fact it's strange that the entire interaction even happened in the first place if the
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officer had observed Max's vehicle obstructing traffic the incident could have been avoided by simply asking him
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to move his vehicle out of the way and let him go about his day from there instead the officer detained Mac
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preventing him from moving his vehicle and keeping it in the very place that's allegedly impeding traffic flow the cop
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later found found out that Mack wasn't even a federal agent or officer himself and simply managed to prove just how
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valuable it is to know the law