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stand by this is Jason carols and he's currently being chased by 12 police cars and one police helicopter coming up on
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bri coming up on bri we stuck in a little bit of traffic here the reason is that just a few hours ago he killed all
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three of his children to get back at his wife for divorcing him what is going on
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I don't know why'd you do it I think I felt like I was saving them however this car chase
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would end in a disaster Steel Bridge coming up he's [Music] swerving it all started on Monday
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morning of June 13th 2022 the police department of Round Lake Illinois received a shocking phone call
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from 30-year-old Debbie carrolls who had just discovered her kids unresponsive 911 let's the address of
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the emergency hi I'm in C Lane my kids my husband my kids okay tell me exactly what happened
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um I came home to take the kids and they're all on the bed and they're okay all right how many children
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three how were they killed please how they're cold they're cold how okay please ma'am ma'am how were they how were they
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killed I don't know maybe you suffocated them or cut them they're laid in the bed
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I'm assuming he them hey where are you right okay we have officers there where are you right now I'm upstairs and come
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inside I'm upstairs she's upstairs please please please guys wake up [Music] [Music]
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please got to get in there res go in let just go in [Music] 42 location police police department
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police coming [Music] up got blood here is there anybody else in the house ma'am what is there anybody else in the
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house I don't know what is going okay okay ma'am do you have any weapons no I don't have any I'm going to have
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you step out here with me okay come out here come out here when officers made it
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to this horrifying scene they quickly escorted the traumatized mother out of the room and inside they found her three
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kids Bryant Cassidy and Gideon all lying in the same bed completely unresponsive
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as of now all the information officers had have comes from Debbie's 9911 call where she claimed her husband committed
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the act however he is nowhere to be found so they decide to ask her you haven't spoke to him at all
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today where you from where am I coming from yeah's Debbie would go on to explain
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that she drove to this house to pick up the kids from Jason carrols her 36-year-old ex-husband with whom she'd
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been going through a divorce two days prior to this crime Debbie said she had given Jason their three kids to spend
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time with him not realizing this would be the last time she saw them alive when it was time to pick them back up Jason
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wouldn't answer the calls making Debbie grow nervous that's when she decided to check up on her children herself only to
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discover the scene Jason Left Behind These facts alone are enough to make Jason the prime suspect police
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officers decid to check on the whole house and confirm that the suspect is on the loose and not hiding somewhere at
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the crime scene I want to make sure no one is hiding in the house that we're missing out on uh if
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you guys want to be I'm going to check the rest of these rooms Police Department I got a knife in the bathroom
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got a knife there I got a knif in the bathroom let's let's Mo the house this address sounds
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familiar come from over here I'm looking there no I don't see anything in here so
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I feel pretty confident up here I'm guessing we shouldn't have anybody but a rescue come up coming up that's it it
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seems like Jason is not in the house the only thing this female officer finds is
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this knife near the blooded sink along with a bloody razor blade these could be possible murder weapons that Jason used
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in this disturbing crime however when the medical examiners arrived at the scene and had their first look of the
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victims they would quickly dismiss this Theory entirely so you guys see the wounds on the kids
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because there's a lot of blood I don't want to make you guys touch or anything with the body I don't see anything other
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than blood to the hands here I mean it's nothing that would ever be worth resuscitating at this point because
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they're just what I'm wondering is if this is Dad I'm not sure who that is but I
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don't believe it's one of there the victims had large strange markings on their necks the lips skin and even Nails
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on all three of them were completely blue it was clear the victims had been choked but there were no signs of stab
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wounds or similar on their bodies this made the officer question where exactly all the blood had come from and every
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room the officers would look through there were pools of it especially in the master B bedroom where the victims were
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found this is where one of the officers would find a trail of blood droplets leading downstairs into the kitchen
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where she would find their biggest clue yet a letter to Debbie despite the difficult handwriting there are several
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clues in the narrative proving that Jason carrols wrote this note and left it in plain sight for Debbie to find
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according to Jason their marriage lasted for 7 years before they filed for divorce and fought in court over the
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full custody of their children halfway through the note it seems that Jason lost the court and this is also
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confirmed by the disturbing sentence written in the middle of the note if I can't have them neither can you finally
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Jason ends the letter by saying he would end everything on his terms yet it wasn't the most horrifying thing the
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officer would discover in the same room she'd find another writing now on the board I'm sorry I loved them too much to
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leave them behind you promised you swore you lied this is not just evidence this is a
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confession that whatever happened to their kids he knows the absolute truth but if he did what he promised to do
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then police officers would have more trouble finding his body than his confession but luck was on the officer's
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side this time something was missing in that house specifically in the garage Jason's Red 2010 Nissan Maxima a
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significant clue that would help them find Jason moments later the Round Lake Beach police would alert police
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departments across the Chicago area to look for that exact car the Clock Was ticking but it wouldn't be long before
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an Illinois State officer discovered a car that fit the description perfectly and attempted a traffic stop they
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weren't sure if this was their guy until the driver stepped on the gas and sped away quickly this would result in a
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that said let's catch back up with Jason who just sped away from the officer that
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tried to stop him that officer with wasted no time in calling all available units to help catch him including a
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police helicopter equipped with thermal vision the adrenaline pumping Chase continued like this for 17 minutes with
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police driving as fast as possible but Jason somehow going quicker even managing to slip out of the helicopter's
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vision for a brief time west bound passing Richard West B passing Richard all right 132 I'm following him with
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State units looks like he's got a 1050 on 80 here outside shoulder now outside shoulder right on him now we cut up the
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traffic1 on him got I got moving over up Bri up on briide shoulder if Jason had more fuel
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than the helicopter there might have been a slight chance he could have gotten a way but suddenly this
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happens Steel Bridge coming up continuing Vehicles off the roadway Vehicles off the roadway here at uh he
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came all the way down sorry Water Street Water Street in uh Duncan Water Street dunan
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he I can't see see keep them there all right man keep them [Music] there don't move I know [ __ ] up don't
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move can you see his hands yeah no I'm not going to shoot you hands out the car other hand out the
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car got any weapons in the car sir I don't no Ni No enough my leg right now lastation up on
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the arm my plan was to drive can you feel your feet don't move your legs your toes
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right now anything else hurt you don't know keep your eyes open for us okay bud I what's
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that that's good man good news you he anyone I mean yourself further inspection of Jason's State proves that
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Jason is unharmed but clearly struggles to stay semiconscious but even then he has enough strength to admit what he did
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back at the house I woke up and all of a sudden they were they were dead and I you remember what happened I mean I
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know what I did but I feel like it was doing I man we're get you to help you okay where you from
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don't you know know what I um I've heard some stuff I mean talk on you to me I'm not gathering enough
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what you said so hey we got to get them out but I want to keep control of the F you
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know for the next 10 minutes a team of Rescuers would be working hard to cut off the roof of his vehicle and get him
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out safely although he looks most uninjured the EMS cannot take their chances and take him to the nearest
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hospital it would be an absolute miracle for Jason not to have any damages especially after a disastrous crash he
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somehow survived escaping death this day but the person he couldn't escape no matter what was detective Barrera after
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being informed of Jason's stable condition he and his partner were dispatched to the hospital their only
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goal was to get as much information out of Jason as possible about what had happened hours earlier but more
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importantly why it happened to do this they'd start with talking about his relationship to his former wife and the
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mother of his children so what's what's going on uh and your uh and your wife man I mean for my understanding you guys
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had some issues or well my my side of it is you can go and look back at like text
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messages phone calls like for since we met each other I've always complained about how she she makes up things to
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justify how she treats me I put up with it because I have no self worth and then
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and and she's always like manipulating me and and like put me down and been mean to me and the only time like I've
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really been mean to her is when it's it's like I'm not even being mean it's more like it's like she says something
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mean or rude that's not true to hurt me so I say something mean back because I know if I say something mean she'll
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tells me the truth clearly this doesn't make much sense it seems like Jason might be trying to portray his wife as a
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manipulative and toxic partner however it's hard to tell if this is a genuine feeling or simply an attempt to gain
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sympathy from the officer so detective Barrera decides to keep digging so what all transpired today I mean you had you
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have you guys are married still from my understanding or separated you guys are separated but legally still married I
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found out the day before yesterday that she cheated on me and left me for another
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guy the day after my birthday okay and then she's been keeping the kids for me but she claims that she hasn't but the
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truth is is I thought she was keeping the kids from me but the truth is she was seeing somebody instead of like
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calling me with the kids and you know you get what I'm saying like I found out she was cheting at me and she was
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lying just lying to me and um um and like I was just very adamant about it because like when you're with
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someone for seven years like you know their Poker Face you know you know when they're to you I get you
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like especially someone that lies as much as she does to me and your Jason is describing his wife as manipulative mean
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and the problem in their relationship which seems unlikely given what they know he's done this conversation is
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going nowhere so the officer decides to move on to more important things what happened to the kids if I'm honest with
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you sir I don't know why I did what I did but like I know what I told myself when I did it you know what I mean what
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was that and it was like that they were that like they deserve to be with me and that I felt like she was
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neglecting them and I wanted myself and for some reason I thought it was okay to
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H them too I don't know why I did that like I thought we would be together like you
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know whatever is after this life like you know and like the whole time I was trying to at home I kept telling myself
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they're waiting for you you have to be with was it something that you wanted to for her to feel your pain in that sense
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or or you know see yes or no to that honestly I don't think so okay honestly I I just didn't want to be in pain and I
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think I told myself I told myself that and you'll actually hear it in the last time we talked I told her it's like if
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I'm not around you're just going to start taking it out on them and they don't deserve that and I think I felt
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like I was saving them I don't I don't know why saving them from going through the pain that I
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did it's almost as though he believes what he did was reasonable at least in the moment he did it if this is indeed
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the case it's likely he is genuinely mentally ill which which means he had limited control over what he did and can
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claim that in a court of law but regardless of if he is mentally ill or not detectives still need to build a
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case against him so they decide to dig deeper into what exactly he did to his kids kind of walked me through today
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kind of what was going on how were were the kids were they joyful playful they were awesome yeah I me
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was like this was yesterday in the day before what was I was I I did what everything I did I started doing last
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this morning at 1: in the morning so 1: in the morning is uh when when everything happened yes sir okay so what
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what what was going on um cuz I know you guys spoke on the phone yesterday right
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yeah what time did your guys' phone call end I want to say about midnight about midnight yeah okay you guys phone call
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ends around midnight yeah um and then then what happen were you drinking you say you don't
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drink right so so then so then what kind of happened uh what what what kind of triggered you um after the phone call
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ended with were kids sleeping or they up we were watching TV and then I like I knew I had to give him a path yeah and
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and like I don't know like I I just something in my brain snapped because of the things she said to me on the phone
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what was it that she said um that you know it's it's it's weird because she did say some nice things to
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me but it's like she said that that was nothing I deserve nothing that I was a terrible father a terrible husband and
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like all these things and it was like I don't know like something snapped in me and like
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and and I know that makes it seem like I was trying to get back at her but it was
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like it wasn't it was never about getting back at her it wasn't do as [ __ ] up as it sounds was doing
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something for myself okay and like that's what I told myself yeah the detective makes a final note and leaves
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Jason on a little break before they can continue questioning there might be something Jason hasn't mentioned yet
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something like a sheet of paper with his handwriting lying on a kitchen table and
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a short note on the board did detective Barrera comes back shortly after and informs Jason that
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there will be cops watching him for the next 24 hours to make sure he doesn't run away or try to harm himself Barrera
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then recites the whole timeline to ensure they're on the right track with Jason making Minor Adjustments to the
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story and eventually Barrera stops to question Jason about one final crucial detail one thing I did I did want to ask
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was um so I know we um one of the officers noticed there was a note um last night on the what was in the
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kitchen yeah um now was that when you left the house so like something snapped to me I wrote the letter and then I did
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it okay okay that makes sense then I just I haven't seen it so that's why I was just looking for some some help
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there I think it's starts off like I I mentioned about how she swore in the kids lives that she wasn't cheating on
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me and like you know and I said I hope it was worth it it was like it wasn't like I hope it was worth it how I'm
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getting back at you I was hoping it worth it like you pushed me to do something for myself like kind okay so
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she swore on the kids um lives that she wasn't cheating on you in reality she was snap like I don't know
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maybe like so then you basically in your head you're you're saying you're thinking again you know correct me if
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I'm wrong any any moment if I'll admit part of me like if she's going to swear in their lives they belong to be with me
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like you know like stuff like that M this statement confirms the writing on the board you promised you swore you
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lied it seems like his supposed mental illness and urge to quote save his children were not his only reasons for
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doing this these statements make it seem like Jason partly did this to get back at his ex-wife for cheating on him
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leaving him and taking his children it almost seems like he did all this to make her feel what he felt however at
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this point Jason needed to rest and the officers decided they were best off continuing interrogations the next
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day early the following morning police officers would escort Jason out of the hospital in a robe and get him to the
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police station where he would be placed inside an empty room and left with his thoughts however he was unaware that his
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ex-wife Debbie was sitting in an interrogation area only feet away from him Debbie is sitting in a room filled
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with toys coloring books and a comfortable sofa an extreme contrast to that of Jason's interrogation room the
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reason for this is that they know for certain Debbie wasn't behind any of this and that she's likely extremely
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traumatized and vulnerable right now their best chance at getting any information from her is to ensure that
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she feels as comfortable and safe as possible Jason on the other hand will be put under pressure to confess as much as
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possible as of now Debbie has no confirmation that Jason was the killer she also doesn't know that he was caught
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just hours earlier so now it's time to break the news hey um I know we spoke earlier I'm sorry I I don't you know
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this isn't part of my job I enjoy I do have to officially you know do do this and you have to do notify you that he
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did Mur your three children I believe it did you find him yes is he dead no where did you find
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him um the police chase about an hour and 30 minutes away from here he's he's in custody and we're
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going to do our best I'm a detective I'm detective unit we're going to charge him
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best as we can we're going to do this right everything Jason said up to this point was nothing but his own version of
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events and Debbie well she never got the chance to talk about what she saw that day and what it made her feel as a
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victim her voice matters the most and that voice would be the final nail in Jason's coffin i w up
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I I ate I went I didn't contact them until I was on the way to get them because they had the doctor's
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appointment today when I went to Walmart to get diapers I went to Walmart to getan for their
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playback um and get a bathing suit for my daughter and then I went there and I open the garage door and didn't notice
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anything I think about it I walked in I looked to the right and I saw the door broken off the hinges and then I saw
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drops of blood and then I turned around and look in the garage and I saw that his car was gone I started calling him
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cuz I thought maybe he took the kids or went somewhere and I heard his phone upstairs so I started walking up the
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stairs and I just saw more blood and more blood and then just started saying to myself no God please no please no and
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I go to the room I saw all three of them there on the bed they were waking up they were so cold well Debbie was
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spilling her heart out little did she know Jason was sitting in the room next to her staring down into the emptiness
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her ex-husband the father of their kids and a vicious murderer it's hard to understand what he thinks at that moment
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the memories he had with his children or the regret he feels for making them leave this world too early after 10
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minutes of complete silence detective Barrera returns to the interrogation room for his second and last
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conversation with Jason with no idea that he was about to discover a major piece of this story that could have
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prevented this entire Massacre from ever happening how's your work situation do you work during the weekends no I don't
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work at all that's why I like I should be watching and seeing them a lot more okay all right how long have you been
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unemployed since December since December okay uh what did you do before I worked
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at Bob CH crab okay you still keep in contact with your uh your coworkers there no no okay
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so ever get ever uh talk to any of them I did reach out one to one to one to to one of them after I found out that he
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was cheating because I cuz she had claimed that he she met him at a bar and that one of her
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co-workers gave him her number so I just messaged my whoever I was like hey can I
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ask you a question and he's like oh sorry I didn't get I was like oh never mind like you know I figured it out and
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then I kind of broke down later and like I just found out and I told him like everything because he was the one person
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that I felt like I could trust have you talked to him since no I had how long ago how long ago have you had contact
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with him that was like two days or that was like Saturday or Sunday and so so Saturday the kids get dropped off around
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what time they did they get dropped off I want to say one it was afternoon afternoon yeah okay how were the kids
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were they happy to see you joyful were me like um well cuz the kids were out there playing on the swings and stuff so
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like I started asking around like like I was very like calm and and I was just asking questions about like you know who
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she was seeing like you know how she met him and stuff and then um and she would
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say like she didn't want to talk about it anymore and I would say stuff like what do you have to lose like like
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whether you're chea on me or not it doesn't change anything with the custody battle cuz it like I know the law with
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like you know it wasn't a bad change it was it wasn't bad it wasn't good it was just the you know I
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had handled it great until I had got mad and texted her later and and like I don't remember what I said in the text
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okay because I was just so mad that she like I that she's still lying to me you and that and that yeah so then so then
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you you send her a message and you um and I was I was just getting upset too because she kept saying stuff like you
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should be spending time with the kids and I'm like I'm mxing you because they're sleeping like I'm messaging you
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because like I'm playing I can play with them and text you at the same time you know with all of these events combined
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there would be one last phone call that pushed Jason to his limits but that same
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phone call could have prevented this murder if not for Jason's hatred and you mentioned it was a it was the phone call
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that kind of kind of shut things off maybe that's the thing like I mean there was a phone call and
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then about a half hour 45 minutes later is when I started everything but like even the phone call it's like it it
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ended well you know what like it had a great ending even the phone call like she was willing sound like she was
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willing to work with me and stuff but I don't I think I just didn't believe it like you know and I just didn't
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want I know what it messed up but I just didn't want I didn't want this to end like I
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didn't I wanted to be with them forever and I felt like this was the only way it
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sounds like Jason actually was close to resolving a lot of his frustration with Debbie but something after this call and
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before the attack must have triggered him to go through with this insane and horrifying plan like I don't mean like I
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don't want to hurt her but I'll say something sometimes to hurt her because she hurt me and like okay but I wasn't
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doing it to hurt her like that was not my int because like if I if that's what I wanted I would have if I really wanted
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to hurt her I would have I would have stayed home I would have waited for her to see the kid like that and I would
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have hurt her too okay you know what I mean like I would I believe you I believe you Jason yeah I don't I don't
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think by the means of I um sitting here saying you wanted to hurt her you know I
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mean again I don't want to hurt anybody okay now let me ask you this um now you knew at some point she would come and
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and find you guys what detective Barrera just said catches Jason by surprise because his
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actions contradict his statements heavily how could Jason claim that he didn't plan to hurt her when all his
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actions would ultimately lead to Debbie finding all three of them unresponsive I it wasn't
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until about like noon 12:30 like so 12 hours later almost okay that that's when I realized like she's going to be here
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soon like I I I can't like I don't want to hurt her I don't want to I can't be here when she's here because I'm just
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going to end up hurting her to give myself more time to and be with them okay yeah and so like my whole thought
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process was is the only way to get more time to do it is that I'll go drive into
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something but then I there was just too many cars on the road I didn't want to hurt anybody like I so I drove to the
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city I um which I don't know my way around I don't know anything about this city I've only ever been to Chicago like
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for sporting events and that's it his response to barrera's question completely falls apart when it's clear
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his actions left Debbie to discover the gruesome scene trauma izing her forever all of this made it clear not just to
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detectives but later a jury that he was mentally ill and was not fully in control over what he did in June of 2022
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he was charged with three counts of first-degree murder and in February of 2024 pleaded guilty but mentally ill
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this means he will serve a life sentence without the possibility of parole while
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also receiving mental health treatment after the story went public Debbie chose to start a go fundme page in order to
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raise money for the funeral and court expenses gaining over $70,000 as of December 2024 she's
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decided to maintain her privacy but we can hope she's doing her best to move forward and recover from this tragedy