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Mother Kills Her Son, Stuffs Body In Suitcase

September 05, 2024 / 31:53

This episode discusses the tragic case of Ganon Stouch, focusing on the actions of his stepmother, Leticia Stouch, who is accused of murdering him. Key topics include the timeline of events leading to Ganon's disappearance, Leticia's inconsistent statements, and the investigation that ultimately uncovered the truth.

Leticia Stouch reported her 11-year-old stepson Ganon missing on January 27, 2020, claiming he was at a friend's house. However, surveillance footage showed them returning home earlier that day. Leticia's behavior raised suspicions, particularly her calm demeanor and attempts to restrict police searches in the house.

As the investigation progressed, police discovered incriminating evidence, including Leticia's internet searches related to blood and injuries. Her alibi changed multiple times, eventually claiming an intruder was responsible for Ganon's disappearance. However, evidence suggested that she was the last person with Ganon.

On March 17, 2020, Ganon's body was found in a suitcase, revealing that he had been drugged and shot. The episode highlights the disturbing details of the case and the psychological factors that may have influenced Leticia's actions.

The episode concludes with a reflection on the tragic loss of Ganon and the impact of his murder on the community.

TLDR

Leticia Stouch is accused of murdering her stepson Ganon, with evidence revealing her lies and disturbing actions leading to his death.

Episode

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So he said he was going to his friend's house to play with him. I don't know the exact time.
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This woman is in the midst of lying to police. Just hours ago, she brutally murdered her son, Genanon, hid his body
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in the basement and called 911 to report him missing. Officers at the scene have
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no idea what they walked into, and they will quickly find themselves entangled in this killer's twisted lies.
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Is there anybody down here? There was no. So then when I get downstairs, he had one of the guns and I was terrified. He
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asked me to give him a suitcase. Is Ganon in a dumpster? No. You didn't hurt Ganon. Did you kill
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Ganon? No. But this was just the beginning of her lies. Why would I hurt our child at everything
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in the world? Have no motive. So tell me where he is and let me help you. I [clears throat] don't know where
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he is. All I can tell you is I didn't know what. In the early hours of January 27th,
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Leticia texts her supervisors at Widefield School District 3 stating that she cannot come to work. Allegedly, her
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stepfather was killed in a hit and run, and she has to tend to his passing. Nearly 6 hours later, at 9:56 a.m.,
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Leticia sends another text to her employers. This time, she states that Ganon is sick and she needs to stay
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home. However, just 20 minutes later, at 10:16 a.m., a neighbor's surveillance camera captures Leticia and Ganon
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entering their red Nissan Frontier and driving away. During this time, Leticia would visit a Petco on Nevada Avenue
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instead of visiting a doctor to treat her allegedly sick son. By 200 p.m., both Genon and Leticia returned home.
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But something was off. Not only did Leticia purchase cleaning supplies moments after their return, but backed
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all the way into her driveway. According to family and friends, Leticia never backed up all the way into the driveway.
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But for now, only one credible conclusion can be made. The only person last in contact with Genanon was his own
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stepmother. And oddly enough, she would report him to be missing 5 hours later at 700 p.m.
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My son was going to be all at 6:00 and it's almost 7:00 and we went to like all his friend's house and he said he was
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going to be at his friend's house and they said he wasn't there and the other one said he never came there. So I don't
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I don't know any other people to call and ask and I talked to my husband. So I told him I had to call you guys as fast
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as I could because I don't I don't know anyone else here the age of he's only 11. With this call, officers rush to
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Leticia's home in an attempt to gather as much information as possible because every single second, Genanon's trail
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gets colder. Did he take his bike? No. Okay. So, okay. Cuz somebody saw a little kid on a bike. They posted it,
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but I don't know if he brought his Well, he unless he took it sooner and brought it back because Lena ends UP
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GETTING A BIKE FOR DINNER. OKAY. He never thought he was at his friend's house. Yeah, there's
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one picture someone said he was on and he was holding he was sinking a switch. For someone who just realized their son
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is missing, Leticia is strangely calm. Not only that, she states with her initial alibi that Ganon was visiting
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her friend, which is clearly a lie as Genanon never left the home after his return. Undoubtedly, something is very
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wrong here. But for these officers, Leticia is nothing more than a concerned mother as they continue to search her
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home. Okay. Cuz you weren't in here. You weren't in here in the beginning, right?
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I thought I have I didn't know if I had that box cutter and all that stuff in there cuz I told him about he dropped
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the candle last night. Oh, okay. And I was I thought I must have picked it up. I was just making sure. I didn't
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want you to be like, "Oh, just a box cutter." But yeah, I had to cut this and I told them I wasn't even going to tell
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dad. And I was going to figure out a way to put this in there from the situation,
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but at least you got a car, right? I just took it and like covered up with the carpet and stuff like that.
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But does he Does he have any friends around here? Um there is a Let me look on this thing.
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He did have this one like book thing. It's where he was supposed to be at down the road,
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but they checked that already. They went over there and talked to him and they're like, "No, we hadn't seen
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him at all." Okay. He did have this like a And you talked to parents, right? You
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didn't talk to? Yeah, Connor's mom came over who is a friend he goes hangs out with all the
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time. Um, so they come over. The people here that the friends, they were just the
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ones that were the door with the bike. They came over. Bunch of people came over.
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Keep in mind that officers have not yet completed their house search. They have only gone through the home
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superficially. Yet, oddly, Leticia is trying her best to keep them restrained to two sections of the house. the living
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room where there is a burnt piece of carpet and Ganon's room. This strange behavior would only worsen as Leticia is
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committed to keeping the officers where they are. He forgets to like bring this or bring
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that or bring this or bring that, you know. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, no, no clothes are missing or
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nothing. No, we actually lay out all the clothes all the time like for, you know, like
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every day at school we lay out clothes, we do whatever. Is his jacket gone? He had on a we he
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has several jackets like he might it depends on I'm I'm very like fashion. So like it it just depends on jackets. Like
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he might have this black one with this or there's a blue one with this. So he had a jacket.
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Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Silver jackets. Like I mean you see the kid has you know like tons and tons of clothes
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and he just you know he has all that stuff. Yeah, there was a weird text that dad got
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about something about bath salts and hey, if you uh if I get some bassels, do we have
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any bass? And my friend will let me play Sonic or something at their house. He sent that to
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Yeah, I got it. And then uh mom goes through everything, finds a like a [music] like a
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this part. Yeah, this is the exact moment that officers realized that Leticia was hiding
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something from them. It's strange that she randomly closes the door here as if there was something in the basement that
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she didn't want the cops to see, and her behavior, words, and strategies to deflect the cops from certain areas of
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the house did not go unnoticed. Consequently, her devices were subjected to a forensic analysis where officers
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would come across a disturbing video recorded on Sunday, January 26th, a day before Genanon supposedly went missing.
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Ganon, I promise it's the last time I'm going to ask you. I'm just freaked out. Okay. Are you sure you didn't do it on
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purpose? He did it. Okay. [laughter] He promised. He promised. On purpose. Pinky promise.
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Pinky. Okay. All right. So, listen. We're going to have to sell stuff to fix it. So, we
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figure out what we got to sell. We can sell the sofa cuz we got to get it fixed. So, lady, don't be mad at us and
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kick aside the house. Okay. This video was recorded by Leticia when Genanon supposedly dropped a candle on
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the carpet, leaving a burn mark. What the video doesn't show is that Genanon sustained burn injuries on his arms from
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the candle. And rather than treating his burns, Leticia is hurt scolding him instead. Additionally, during the phone
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analysis, officers discovered a phone call that Leticia had made to her husband, Albert Stouch, informing him of
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the situation. And he told me it was just his arms. So, I didn't [screaming] see anything that
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would have thrown a flag that I had to be like, "Oh my god, emergency." Or or anything like that.
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But if his arms was bubbling, that's not an emergency. Well, it hadn't broke skin. Like, it was
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just underneath. In my mind, I'm like, "Let's evaluate the situation tomorrow and see or whatever." It wasn't burning
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very hard. It was bubbly. I didn't see it as a bad thing. I just knew he was like, "It's not hurting. We put aloe on
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it." and I assumed as heartbreaking as this call is, the burns described are likely secondderee
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because of both the freezing feeling that Ganon described and the presence of blisters. Things aren't adding up and
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the story so far paints a really bad light on Leticia. However, officers need to verify what really happened as it was
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after this incident that Ganon disappeared. That's why on January 30th, 3 days after Ganon's disappearance,
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Leticia was called in for an interview so detectives could understand the circumstances surrounding the situation.
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So Ganon had started a candle. Again, normal. He's very like responsible in terms of like uh if you give him
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something and say do this, do this, this, and this like a list and prepare, it's fine. So we let him, you know, do
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things like that. So, I didn't see a problem when him, you know, light a candle, whatever, whatever, whatever.
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And Lena asked me, could she stay up and still watch um the rest of her iPad or whatever. It was just her birthday and
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was trying to give her a little extra because we went all out for G's birthday. Like, we took him to a Rocky's
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game. He we took friends with him. It is already strange that Leticia is going on
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several tangents and prefacing this entire conversation with the loving relationship she had with her children,
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especially with her daughter Harley Hunt, whom she would refer to as Lena, almost as if she wants to say that
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whatever happened with the candle was not intentional. [music] So, it starts beeping like a beep beep
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beep. And I thought that someone was coming in the house. I didn't see anything going on. Then it started
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saying fire fire. So there was smoke coming up through the bases. So then I ran it up downstairs to get Ger and then
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the fire was on the floor over here, then on the sofa. So I'm pretending this was the sofa and this is our floor. So
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it was right here and right here. And I had saw the candle that was over here. So there was covers everywhere cuz the
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kids always get on about they leave a lot of covers laying around all the time. I take a whole bunch of them and I
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go and like like basically smash down on the sofa and the um fire to put it out.
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So I got a burn and then I was like get up again and started running at that point cuz it wakes him up. He's alert.
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He's realizing that the covers and everything's on fire. The carpet's on fire and we all go outside.
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Essentially what occurred was a freak accident from Genanon. Due to him accidentally knocking over a candle, a
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small fire had somehow ignited on the carpet in the basement. This was the same cutup section of the carpet that
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Leticia had previously shown officers. But this was odd. Secondderee burns by just a knocked over candle, especially
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on both arms, is unlikely, if not impossible. Ganon would have also had enough common sense to run away from
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flames. After all, it was a slowmoving fire caused by a candle. If this wasn't strange enough, Leticia begins to
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recount the injuries Ganon suffered. But this time, they would be different from
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what she told Albert. I was scared because my thought process was Albert is going to kill me. Like because I made a
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mistake as a parent and forgot [clears throat] to like really check him down and he really got a little bit more
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burn. [clears throat] So I was freaking out because it's like he's going to kill me. And G was like,
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"It's okay." And like and there was blood and like he had on his arm and as it was peeling and I should have called
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what did they have? I should have called the hospital and just asked you know I don't know enough
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about burns but I should have called the hospital and just asked like I made a mistake. to quote Leticia just
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said more than he should have and secondly implied that Genanon was somehow bleeding because of burns, an
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apparent contradiction to what she told Albert. More importantly, this was a massive slip up by Leticia and
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detectives suspect that this fire wasn't a simple mistake. However, there is no way to confirm this situation as of now,
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but there is one conclusion that officers can make. Leticia is lying. When a suspect is guilty, they often
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make major changes to alibis as opposed to someone who is innocent and has little variation in their story. In
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Leticia's case, she changes major details about the Kandzel incident, especially her response, which was
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recorded on her phone, which sets off a series of red flags for the detectives as they now believe that she might go as
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far as changing her original alibi about Ganon's disappearance, too, and begin to
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question her about it. If this assumption turns out to be true, there is a high likelihood that Leticia is
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withholding even more crucial information. He goes in through the garage. I go in.
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I'm getting ready to put up the things, stuff like that. As we got inside, I heard something, but I didn't think
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anything about it cuz I thought, you know, maybe maybe G was like doing something. Maybe we were like doing
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whatever. Mhm. And the guy was in there and I gave him the code. The guy from the
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Yeah, it's all my fault cuz I gave him a code to fix the carpet. Okay. And then when I walked downstairs, I
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hear something again. Well, at that point in time, Gon was on the sofa and I saw him and I heard something again and
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I walked on around and he was standing in there. He had on gloves in the storage.
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Yes. Okay. cuz he he had one of the gums and I was terrified. So terrified. And then he just knocked
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me down and like towards Ganon's room and he was like he was hitting on me. It was like hard like on the ground.
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He was trying to like rap me. Exactly as predicted. Leticia's alibi has changed from Genanon visiting a
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friend's house to having an intruder break into her home. But this would only be the start of her outrageous lies as
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according to her confrontation with this stranger escalates. And I'm like pleading and like talking
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and like all these things going on like just back and forth with him and why are
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you doing this? Why why did you hurt us? Why are you doing these things? And then
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he was like on top of me again and then I kind of lied out again cuz he hid my head again.
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Really? And then Yeah. And then he was like, he asked me to give him a a suitcase and I
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gave him a brown suitcase and then he hit me on the head again and like right here.
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He just kept like hitting me right there like that. Okay. And so then he did that and then I wiped
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out again. I was having a panic attack and then I don't know what happened from there. I really don't I don't know. I
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just know that I did lie. I did when they came I did say get and left whatever but you know that
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but he never did he never left to [snorts] go play and I just didn't know what to
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do and I panic in the moment and I didn't want Albert [clears throat] to be like trying to hurt us cuz we kind of
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get in a lot of fights and I [laughter] just Yeah. And I just want you know that
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was the only reason that that I made up the light. A simple way to check whether
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she has been assaulted is using a sexual assault nurse examiner at a local hospital. These are registered nurses
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who receive special training to collect forensic evidence from assault survivors. Conveniently, Leticia
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rejected this examination when officers offered it to her. Not only that, but even CCTV footage confirms the fact that
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no one entered or left the Stout residence after Leticia Ganon came home. She likely thought that this poorly
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planned story would absolve her of any crimes. Fortunately, quite the opposite happened. Noticing these contradictions,
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police officers handed this case over to the FBI, who gathered CCTV footage from
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neighbors and came to a harrowing realization. The morning after Ganon's disappearance, Leticia rented a Kia Rio
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for 24 hours and left the house at approximately 8:30 a.m. on the 28th of January. When the car was returned the
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following day at 8:00 a.m. on the 29th of January, it had clocked in 955 mi in the span of 1 day. This could mean only
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one thing. Leticia had likely murdered Genanon after their return at 2:00 p.m. and on the morning of January 28th left
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to dump his body. While this much is easy to figure out, the exact details surrounding the murder are still not
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known. This is why 1 month after Ganon's disappearance on March 2nd, federal investigators called Leticia in for yet
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another interview to piece together this confusing puzzle of Ganon's disappearance and possibly his murder.
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Because of the nature of the warrant, it being a murder warrant, we need to know
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the real story because you put out quite a different quite a few different stories.
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I did. Yeah. Well, we heard a lot of the stories to Al to Albert. Mhm. The reason I already knew someone
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was listening to him, but because of him not ever like being like supportive and
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I tried originally to talk to him when he first got there, that was the only reason I said those things to him was
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just because I was out of anger and out of like hurt and not being able to have like [clears throat] support. It was
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nothing to do with like me saying those things to him was just being just what what is the word you want to call it?
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selfish or victitious or whatever you want to call it. I did have like originally initial different thoughts on
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certain things and that was me trying to like basically read him and try to figure situations out. So I understand
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that you may have heard those or whatever you may have heard and that's okay because that totally was not
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what Leticia is referring to hearing are rumors about the friction between her and Albert. Since he was a national
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guard, Albert was rarely home and Leticia felt he gave little attention to her. This had resulted in instability in
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their relationship, which Leticia initially denies as being small apprehensions she felt about him.
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However, when the officer confronts her about odd searches on her phone, she goes into a state of absolute panic.
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You know, in here, I even have what you entered in your phone. The stuff that you've entered and
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deleted, like um blood is spurting from an arterial bleed, direct pressure not controlling.
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Do what? I didn't look this up. It's from your phone. Blood is what? Spurting from an arterial bleed.
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No. Somebody did from your phone. [music] I don't like my stepson. No. I don't like my stepson. Should I get a
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divorce? I'll stalk cheating. I'll stalk Instagram. I'll stalk cheating in Colorado Springs. How to get blood out
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of sheets. Out of sheets. Mhm. I want immunity. Oh, the blood out of the the blood out of the sheets was
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because we always had because always nose bleeds. If I ever looked the blood on the sheets, it was nosebleleed. It
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might be something. I didn't never look up anything about an artery or something unless it went from
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something else. It's on your phone. And I never looked up anything about my stepson where someone else did it. The
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searches that the investigator just named, would only be a few of the 34 searches that Leticia made between the
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25th and the 28th of January, which is the exact time frame that Genanon went missing. Conveniently, she would have an
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excuse for every single one of them. The reason I brought up gangs is you you uh looked up I want immunity because it
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was gang related. And this sounds like it. Find me a new husband. find me a rich guy who helps to take care of his
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kids. The the new husband is just because Albert already knew that was about the
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lady Debbie Cheryl who had a who wanted to find a new husband at the 35 or so he
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picked me about Amazon. Like a lot of these can have nothing to do with this. It doesn't.
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I get it. I'm doing all the work for my step kids and their mom doesn't help. Oh, that bother me. Yeah.
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Yeah. I don't blame Oh, yes. Cuz I wanted them to be mine. life one day some people will wish they
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treated you differently which I get that parenting should be four people not one
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socidal person might say I mean these make me very sad when I read them because I can see you're doing all the
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work at home by yourself which I wanted to be there like I wanted to totally have the kids as my children
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that's the [clears throat] point you're not getting like I wanted those kids to be saying to me that I'm their mom. So,
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like I'm the person who does cares for them, loves them, everything. If these were not incriminating enough,
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investigators also found 12 deleted search terms in Leticia's iPhone. All of which pertaining to her wanting to find
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a new husband and being sick of being with Albert. What about what do you do if you suspect
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a person swallow poison? Did somebody actually swallow poison? Poison? I don't know. I always click things and
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read them. No one did swallow it. No one swallowed any poison. Okay. You will never forgive me and treat me
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like a princess. You'll never know when it's too late. Oh yeah. I mean I always search for
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things when Albert was gone. What is an Alford plea? Did you figure out what an Alford plea was?
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Alfred plea. Yeah. I think someone asked me then. I probably searched it. Do you know what it is?
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Yeah. Do you remember? What did you remember? I don't remember. I just remember something because someone was writing
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that online. So I if anyone wrote something online, I looked it up. Just like the other day, someone wrote
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something about FBI coming in or something and I if I see something online, I always Google.
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Usually when a suspect underos a criminal trial and is found guilty of a crime, they are given a maximum
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sentence. However, there is a legal loophole to avoid this. If a suspect pleads guilty yet remains adamant that
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they are innocent, then they are not given a maximum punishment. Instead, they're given a known punishment for a
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crime. This is known as the Alfred plea. But as always, Leticia has a convenient
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story for a search as incriminating as this and continues deflecting any and all evidence. Because of this cathartic
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behavior, the detective decides to reroute the conversation elsewhere. A preliminary investigation of the house
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found blood splotches covering the rear of the truck, Ganon's living space, and even the cutup carpet.
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I've seen the markers from the spray. The spray went from the bed all the way up here. Well, you had to clean it up.
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I don't I don't [clears throat] I don't know anything about that. It comes from aspirated blood.
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Do you know what that means? No. It means that he didn't accidentally do it. Okay. I don't understand.
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So, that's what we were waiting on for the warrants because [music] somebody struck Dan in the bed.
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If someone if someone struck Dan in the bed, they died. We're We were all drugged
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then. If that's what if that's what you're saying happened. Well then can you tell me how that blood
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got on the wall? That's Ganon's blood on the wall. Okay. Well, I guess sir, if you think
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you have all the answers, then you're making me guess. I'm not. You've got the answers.
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I'm not making you guess, sir. It doesn't work like it does on TV. Have you ever watched Criminal Minds or Pope?
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I don't watch any of that stuff cuz I don't do bad things to people. You know, good people watch those shows.
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I don't, but I don't do any of that. I don't do bad things to people. Right now, you're the last person you can.
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And I don't do bad things to people. I don't I don't think you do bad things to people.
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I don't do bad things to anyone. And I didn't do anything bad to Ganon. [music] I think something bad happened to Ganon.
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And I don't know of a way to get you to tell me about When Ganon returned home on the 27th of
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January, a doorbell camera had captured audio of neighborhood dogs being sent into a frenzy by what appeared to be
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Ganon screaming. By 5:00 p.m., 3 hours after these screams, Leticia had ordered her
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daughter, Harley Hunt, to buy cleaning supplies from a nearby Dollar Tree at 5:00 p.m. These included baking soda,
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vinegar, trash bags, and carpet powder from a nearby Dollar Tree. The baking soda and carpet powder to absorb the
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odor of blood and clean minor stains on the carpet. The vinegar was bought to remove deeper stains on walls and act as
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a disinfectant. And the trash bags to hide Genanon's body, a body that officers had missed by mere inches and
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had been hidden away in some part of the basement or garage. And every single location that Leticia showed officers
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the garage, the carpet, and Ganon's room were all locations that Genanon had bled
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in. Not only that, her searches about human anatomy from before indicate that she stabbed Genanon in the artery which
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resulted in arterial spray after which Leticia desperately tried to clean up the evidence of her crimes. This is also
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the reason she had backed up all the way into her driveway as the rear end of her
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vehicle was filled with blood, indicating that abuse had taken place prior to them returning home. Knowing
00:25:04
that the investigator is catching on to this story, her initial attempts of feigning innocence now turn into
00:25:10
desperate attempts to deflect everything that she is told. Why would I hurt our child? I had
00:25:18
everything in the world. Why have no motive? None. Don't have the first motive. Everything
00:25:27
I wanted in my life, I had it. Why? Doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make sense a lot of the time what happens
00:25:34
inside of the house. I'm sir, I don't even know what you're talking about. I All I can tell you is
00:25:41
I did not hurt you. Notice that she uses the word motive, which is often terminology that is used
00:25:47
by law enforcement when charging a criminal, corroborating the fact that she had done her due diligence about the
00:25:53
law in case she got caught, just like her searches about the Alfred plea. Regardless, the investigator knows that
00:26:00
there is a limit to how much she can refuse cold hard facts and begins to pressure her even further by promising
00:26:06
her that he is more concerned about Genanon's safety rather than her crimes. I do want to help them and and whether
00:26:13
you did this or not, it doesn't matter to me. With all the evidence that they have, the reason why it took so long is
00:26:20
the district attorney wanted to wait and wait and wait till they made sure they could win in the courtroom.
00:26:26
Okay? And I've done nobody homicides before. They have more on this case than we do on most of them.
00:26:34
Okay. But if you have what you need, why do you keep asking me? Because our goal is to find Ganon. Our
00:26:39
goal is not to prosecute you. That is the district attorney's job. We're investigators.
00:26:45
And like you like you've just seen, I do a poor job about half the time because I
00:26:48
have to guess. Because as much as we tried to track you with your cars and your phones and whatever else, there are
00:26:56
gaps. We do have, like I told you, the blood in the house. We do have Do [music] you know about the board that
00:27:02
was thrown in the forest, Laticia? Oh, I'm sorry. What? The board that has gained blood on it
00:27:12
that was thrown in the forest. Okay. So, I All right. So, what you got your DNA on? Presented with such
00:27:17
overwhelming evidence, a suspect would usually crack under the pressure and allow themselves to be arrested. In
00:27:23
Leticia's case, however, not only does she keep refuting everything the detective has to say, but even goes as
00:27:29
far as accidentally giving him even more incriminating information. The blood that you or your teen allow
00:27:36
people to be in the house. That has no bearing on Okay. Well, if it doesn't, then Okay.
00:27:42
It doesn't. [music] Okay, then. Are you ready to tell me if it was during smoke? M maybe check one of them
00:27:48
because I bet you they can tell me the last time they saw Ganon even though it was
00:27:52
before. I bet Al can tell you the last time you saw Gon even though he didn't know that
00:27:57
was going to be the last time. [music] I guarantee you he's got an image of Ganon. June was the last time Leticia.
00:28:04
Okay. Now Leticia has just agreed that she was the last person who saw Ganon. Not only
00:28:10
this, but throughout this interview, she has also admitted to Ganon's injuries, blood locations, and motives. With all
00:28:17
of this information that Leticia herself provided, this was less of an interrogation and more of a confession
00:28:24
of murder. Leticia was a broken individual. She cast aside her husband and two children
00:28:32
because of two major reasons. One, Albert's job in the National Guard made her resent him and wish she was married
00:28:40
to someone better. Two, her extreme inferiority complex towards Genanon's biological mother, Landon Bullard. It
00:28:47
was later found that during the candle incident, Genanon had wished for his mom to be present, which sent Leticia into a
00:28:54
psychotic break, and she attempted to mask a murder in the form of an accidental fire. This failed attempt
00:29:01
only added fuel to the fire. So the very next day, she called in a vacation from
00:29:05
work and spent the day brutally murdering Ganon and erasing any traces of her crimes. With these findings,
00:29:11
there was no escape for Leticia. And 8 days after this interview, she was officially arrested for her crimes. And
00:29:18
while being transported to a county jail out of pure frustration and insanity, she turns to the only other option she
00:29:25
has, becoming a fugitive. threat. She keeps threatening me. Stop. Well, she keeps threatening.
00:29:43
STOP. STOP. She keeps on threatening me. I have stopped it. She keeps on. She got out of the retreats.
00:29:53
She keeps on threatening me. I am your arm down. I will for you. She keeps your arm down.
00:30:00
your arm. Your arm. Well, she keeps threatening me the whole time. Tisha. I will with you. I said I would.
00:30:09
And give me YOUR ARM NOW. I said I would with you. I said I would with you. I said I would with you.
00:30:18
I'm just asking to breathe. That's it. Just to breathe. That's all I want to do to breathe. You're hurting my arm.
00:30:25
My phone is jack. You're hurting my arm. You're hurting my arm. I just want my arm. It's hurting my arm. Just let my
00:30:34
arm out. It is ironic that Leticia complains about not being able to breathe, about
00:30:39
how her arm hurts and how she's uncomfortable. Yet, when she did even worse to poor Genanon, she was filled
00:30:45
with nothing but ecstasy and couldn't help but laugh in the face of the officers. Even more tragically, [music]
00:30:51
the circumstances that Genanon's body was found in would prove that his death was not instant. It was slow and
00:30:58
painful. [music] On March 17th, 2020, 49 days after his murder, a maintenance worker found a suitcase under Escambia
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Bay Bridge in Pace, Florida, 1,300 m away from the Stouch home. And inside was Genanon's body. Autopsies done on
00:31:15
the body showed high levels of acetaminophen and [music] hydrocodone. While these are generally pain
00:31:21
medications, hydrocodone was never prescribed to Ganon. It was prescribed to his father, [music] Albert Stout, who
00:31:27
kept the prescription hidden in his nightstand, the location of which only Leticia was aware of. This means he was
00:31:34
forcibly drugged to reduce the pain of his injuries, possibly in an attempt to fuel Leticia's sick fantasies. However,
00:31:41
this was not the end of it. A gunshot wound in his jaw meant that after Leticia had her fun, she ended his life
00:31:48
almost immediately.

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 95
    Most heartbreaking
  • 95
    Biggest twist
  • 90
    Most shocking
  • 90
    Most unpredictable

Episode Highlights

  • The Missing Boy
    Leticia reports her son Ganon missing, but her story raises suspicions.
    “My son was going to be all at 6:00 and it's almost 7:00...”
    @ 02m 24s
    September 05, 2024
  • Strange Behavior
    Leticia's calm demeanor and evasive actions during the investigation raise red flags.
    “For someone who just realized their son is missing, Leticia is strangely calm.”
    @ 03m 18s
    September 05, 2024
  • Conflicting Stories
    Leticia's alibi shifts from Ganon visiting a friend to an intruder breaking in.
    “Exactly as predicted. Leticia's alibi has changed...”
    @ 13m 51s
    September 05, 2024
  • Incriminating Evidence
    Leticia's searches and actions indicate a premeditated plan to harm Ganon.
    “She stabbed Ganon in the artery which resulted in arterial spray.”
    @ 24m 47s
    September 05, 2024
  • Leticia's Confession
    Leticia's interview reveals her admission of Ganon's injuries and blood locations, leading to a confession of murder.
    “This was less of an interrogation and more of a confession of murder.”
    @ 28m 17s
    September 05, 2024
  • The Discovery of Ganon's Body
    Ganon's body was found in a suitcase, revealing the tragic end of his life.
    “Inside was Ganon's body.”
    @ 31m 12s
    September 05, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • For someone who just realized their son is missing, Leticia is strangely calm.
    Mother Kills Her Son, Stuffs Body In Suitcase
  • I did lie. I did when they came I did say get and left whatever.
    Mother Kills Her Son, Stuffs Body In Suitcase
  • You'll never know when it's too late.
    Mother Kills Her Son, Stuffs Body In Suitcase
  • I think something bad happened to Ganon.
    Mother Kills Her Son, Stuffs Body In Suitcase
  • Why would I hurt our child? I had everything in the world.
    Mother Kills Her Son, Stuffs Body In Suitcase
  • I did not hurt you.
    Mother Kills Her Son, Stuffs Body In Suitcase

Key Moments

  • Lying to Police00:06
  • Murder Discovery00:09
  • Suspicious Behavior04:51
  • Strange Texts05:48
  • Alibi Changes13:51
  • Ganon's Last Moments23:39
  • Leticia's Breakdown28:27
  • Body Discovered31:04

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