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A Wannabe Gangster Realizes He's Going To Jail

June 28, 2023 / 14:19

This episode covers the cases of wannabe gangsters facing real consequences, featuring Conrad Trojas, Edtavion Wilcox, Demetrius Cox, and Cody Foreign. It discusses the interrogation techniques used by police to extract confessions and the tragic outcomes of their actions.

Conrad Trojas was shot by Edtavion Wilcox during a robbery attempt. Despite being shot, Trojas managed to call for help before collapsing. Wilcox was later interrogated, where he was pressured into confessing to the crime.

Demetrius Cox was involved in a gang-related shooting that resulted in a death. During his interrogation, he withheld information, which ultimately led to his release on bail. Tragically, he was shot and killed hours later by another gang member.

Cody Foreign's case involved him shooting a teenager after a phone theft. His interrogation revealed his defensive behavior and ultimately led to a confession that sealed his fate, resulting in a 38-year prison sentence.

The episode highlights the harsh realities faced by individuals who attempt to portray a tough gangster image, only to encounter the serious repercussions of their actions.

TLDR

Wannabe gangsters face harsh realities in prison after tragic decisions and failed interrogations.

Episode

14:19
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gangsters are supposed to be seen as tough thugs with little regard for the law but what happens when fake gangsters
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are faced with real prison time these are three never before seen examples of when wannabe gangsters
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realizing they'll be serving prison time starting with the case of 18 year old Conrad Trojas who in September of 2010
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was leaving school when he was approached by a man holding a handgun Conrad was ordered to take off his bag
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and hand it over but when he refused he was shot in the chest by the man miraculously Conrad managed to stumble
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away from the scene and call for help for collapsing and dying on the spot the suspect fled immediately but was later
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identified as edtavion Wilcox who was brought in for attempted murder as it turns out he wasn't all that tough in
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the interrogation room all right here's the deal you know something else happened I don't sit here and talk to
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you without knowing what the deal is all right we've been talking to people we've
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been interviewing people we've been showing people pictures we've been looking at video I didn't bring you up
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here because you weren't wearing your seatbelt okay you got arrested for burglary before and they didn't even
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bring you up here obviously it's something a little more serious Wilcox is trying to remain calm and pretend as
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though he's got no idea what this is all about a little does he know his getaway
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driver had also been apprehended and confessed to everything now the detective just has to find a way to get
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him to confess as well this is gonna go one of two ways you're either going to be a guy who made a mistake hanging
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around the wrong place the wrong time did something dumb or you're going to be a guy that goes out and likes to shoot
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people for fun okay I listen and do before you say anything I think you're a guy that made a mistake I know you were
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there okay I know what happened I've talked to the victim the victims picked you out of a photo lineup and said
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that's the guy that shot me okay here's the deal I don't think you shot that guy
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because you're a bad person you didn't mean to kill that guy okay what happened was is you were just trying to snatch
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his backpack he started fighting with you and you got scared so y'all saying I know you shot somebody imagine you're an
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18 year old kid who got in over their head and ended up shooting and killing an innocent civilian no matter who you
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are you'll be feeling scared a feeling that'll only be Amplified when a police officer asserts that they know exactly
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what happened Wilcox will be feeling rattled now as the cop talks he slumped over in his chair implying he's
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interested in what the cop is saying and as soon as he's allowed to talk all his
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responses sound confused and even bewildered the cop knows he has him on the back foot now he just needs to close
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it out you're 18 right you're 18. yes yeah this is where you need to stand up and be a man and admit
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you made a mistake I know you weren't trying to kill that guy I know that because you're not the kind of guy that
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does that you panicked you got scared you got ain't over your head the victim's making you out to be as stone
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cold just straight up Thug killer guy that doesn't give a [ __ ] about anybody else all right
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if if you keep going down the path you're going down telling me you didn't have anything to do with it it's not you
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it's not you who are people going to believe are they going to believe you are they going to believe the victim
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they're going to have to believe the victim because you didn't give me your side of the story Wilcox is being pushed
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into a corner the detective is using the facts that he knows Wilcox is just in over his head but is using language in
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such a way that makes him feel like he's accused of being this cold-blooded monster his reactions to this prove just
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how well this technique is working he stares at the ground implying shame and rubs his head in a pacifying behavior
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that shows how stressed he is a guy that sits there like you is not a guy that goes around and kills people
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you understand what I'm saying you have remorse you're sorry I can see it on you just need to take that next
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step what happened in that parking lot did you guys plan it or did it just happen
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but huh I can't I can't what'd you say yeah oh don't here remember we talked about
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that don't think about that that's the least of your concerns right now in a breakdown that's far from gangster
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Wilcox starts to cry and laments on how he absolutely can't go back to jail the detective uses this moment of
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vulnerability to press him further and tells him he has one last opportunity to be honest and let everybody know that he
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isn't the monster they think he is do you say stop hit me or I'm going to shoot you anything like that I was like
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I had my hand like right here no you had your left hand like up against him trying to push him away
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where was the gun which pocket how many times did you shoot what happened after you pulled the
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trigger did he fall down or was he was still standing up where'd you hit him I didn't
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even lie okay so you fired that one round what happened you just froze up and just like that had
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Tavian Wilcox confessed to shooting Conrad tohan and was sentenced to life in prison all over a school bag but
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while he'll be spending the rest of his life in prison Demetrius Cox wasn't so lucky throughout the beginning of 2020 a
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war between rival gangs 4-3-8 and AF NF began to break out many shootings were reported with dozens of deaths
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attributed to just these two gangs with one of these occurring on the 14th of April shots were fired at a house party
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in Davenport Florida resulting in the death of 20 year old wolf Luma the killer was identified almost immediately
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as Demetrius Cox also 20 years old two weeks later Cox was brought in on the suspicion of murder and an interrogation
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began ending in one of the most shocking moments in interrogation history number one I gotta tell you I'm pretty
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impressed of the way they uh just overall your persona as it is so I appreciate the respect it's going to be
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getting right back to you okay okay Cox starts the interrogation out respectfully but as the interview
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continues he starts to annoy the detective by withholding information that could get members of his gang into
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trouble this type of loyalty is extremely common in these types of cases but can prove to work against you as is
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seen just a few minutes later I'm not saying you went there for the wrong reasons however man I tell you one thing
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you know how they say like victims victims or suspects I thought that you were a victim
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no no no no no I thought you were a victim and I thought that you were going to give us
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the justification the explanation for what happened listen are you coming here and you can't even with little details
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like that like who cares if Papa J is there why can't you just be honest and say yeah it
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was then I got another question like hard about the truth what's interesting about this
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case though is that the cop actually isn't 100 sure that Cox is the killer as Cox mentions earlier most of the
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evidence in the case is hearsay and detectives could have a hard time using it in court this is why Cox is here in
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the first place if they could extract a confession it'd make their lives a whole
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lot easier but Cox isn't budging okay listen [Music] if you want to tell me what happened I'm
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all the Israel I just tried to tell you what happened in my face you not if you tell me the
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truth I will believe you but there's an explanation for what happened so you're trying to say I'm an animation
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or something it's like you're hearing me but you're not listening to me listen to you but
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you're not letting me look you got to break it down for me please okay I think that you might have been a
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victim but I cannot believe a victim when they leave little things out little details
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about that night [Music] I don't think that you or your buddies or anybody else well maybe when you're
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running your mouth a little bit but it wasn't Justified what happened okay eventually the detective decides that
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he's not going to get anything else out of Cox and calls off the interrogation but that's not where the case ends in
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fact the most interesting but tragic part happened just hours after the interrogation was held later that day
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Cox was released on bail but 11 hours later he was shot and killed by another gang member meaning if he had actually
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confessed he just might have spared his own life even if it was spending that life in prison but while Cox may have
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kept it together in his interrogation and preserved his gangster image the same cannot be said for Cody foreign cam
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a gangster whose crime was littered with errors and stupidity from the very start
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after his phone was stolen at a convenience store Cody went on a Time radical Rampage around his area looking
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for any signs of the stolen device surveillance footage captured him walking past 15 year old DeSean Hills
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pulling a gun from his backpack and firing three shots at the boy killing him instantly Witnesses and surveillance
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footage helps police identify Cody almost immediately and he was quickly brought in for interrogation
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you know what I just do with the people yesterday these mothers was able to do this to them
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okay okay I'll take a look I'm saying look at how they do okay my mom's door open man well they didn't take your
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mom's door yeah we were there we were there like I said man I ain't about that okay
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oh gang bang I don't do you know I mean I ain't with the guns Cody here is referring to a search warrant that was
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used by police to gain access to his mother's house and collect evidence well his anger about this is likely from a
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place of Truth he's also using a as a way to try and argue his innocence this is also backed up by the fact that he
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immediately tells the cop that he has nothing to do with gang activity or guns but it won't take long for this facade
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to fall apart you were here because you're involved with this murder you've told people you've told people that's
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why you're here that's why you're not Minneapolis okay we have to we have talked to people
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all right that have put you there at the scene there's video of you at the scene
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the whole time the whole time okay we know why you're there you're not buying it I'm not here to lie
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to you though why would I lie to you you're on video okay people are talking to you
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you're talking to them okay you approach people and talk to them on the evening of the murder Cody had been
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walking around the area asking people if they saw the person that took his phone
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and aggressively confronting people that he suspected he was also clearly seen on
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surveillance footage at multiple stores and businesses in the Minneapolis area so any arguments he has here that he was
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elsewhere are completely invalid Cody all we're trying to do here's a thing to say something if I was sitting
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in your chair and I had dude I got Mercy dude hold on I got Mercy sit down look at this [ __ ] around
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it's crazy one thing hold on right now I was supposed to I was supposed to well here's what I'm gonna say just
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before we go okay what's that if I was sitting in your chair and I had two people ask me where I was on a
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specific date and they're saying that I I didn't murder she did with me just yesterday I'm not talking about dirty
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I'm saying if you ask me what I ate for dinner I might not remove also take a look at Cody's language and demeanor in
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general right from the start he's been defensive and attempting to combat every single thing the detectives have said to
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him instead of respectfully listening to their points and trying to give counters
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to the cop's evidence he either talks over them or just says I don't believe you and fails to give any evidence in
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his defense if Cody was innocent he'd likely be doing everything he can to stay on the cops good side and help them
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out by providing evidence that would acquit him and as it turns out he was about to start providing evidence
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evidence that would send him straight to jail oh you would have walleyes and you
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were by Wallies [Music] stole my phone all that stupid [ __ ] that don't mean trigger just because some
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people say that's what it is that's what it is [Music] when did you get jumped or when did you
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get your stuff robbed for you so somebody jumps you for your phone right did they get anything else from you
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like do you have money did you want ID man check it off in an outburst of more anger Cody has
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just put himself right next to the scene of the crime and given the officers a motive for the murder for the next four
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minutes Cody scrambled to get himself out of the hole he just dug himself into but it was already too late with the
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evidence they already had plus what essentially amounted to a full confession Cody was found guilty of
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murder and sentenced to 38 years behind bars

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Episode Highlights

  • Conrad Trojas Shooting Incident
    18-year-old Conrad Trojas was shot while refusing to hand over his backpack.
    “Miraculously, Conrad managed to stumble away from the scene and call for help.”
    @ 00m 33s
    June 28, 2023
  • Demetrius Cox's Interrogation
    Demetrius Cox's interrogation reveals shocking moments as he withholds information.
    “This is one of the most shocking moments in interrogation history.”
    @ 05m 55s
    June 28, 2023
  • Cody Foreign Cam's Confession
    Cody's defensive behavior leads to a confession during his interrogation.
    “Cody scrambled to get himself out of the hole he just dug himself into.”
    @ 14m 01s
    June 28, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • This is gonna go one of two ways.
    A Wannabe Gangster Realizes He's Going To Jail
  • You're either going to be a guy who made a mistake...
    A Wannabe Gangster Realizes He's Going To Jail
  • Imagine you're an 18-year-old kid who got in over their head.
    A Wannabe Gangster Realizes He's Going To Jail
  • I can see it on you, just need to take that next step.
    A Wannabe Gangster Realizes He's Going To Jail
  • Cody went on a time radical rampage looking for any signs of the stolen device.
    A Wannabe Gangster Realizes He's Going To Jail

Key Moments

  • Conrad's Refusal00:28
  • Wilcox's Confession05:12
  • Cox's Interrogation06:06
  • Cody's Outburst13:54

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