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What A 200 IQ Killer Looks Like

April 08, 2023 / 22:46

This episode covers the interrogation of David Wright, the murder of Raul Cuadros, and the details surrounding a drug deal gone wrong. Key discussions include the evidence against David, his interrogation tactics, and the police's attempts to extract a confession.

David Wright shot Raul Cuadros during a robbery attempt on February 17, 2019. The episode details how David and his friend Christopher planned the drug deal, which turned into a setup for robbery.

During the interrogation, detectives confront David with video evidence and witness statements that place him at the scene. Despite this, David maintains his innocence and offers inconsistent alibis.

The detectives highlight the consequences of David's actions on his friends, emphasizing the importance of honesty in the interrogation. David's refusal to cooperate ultimately leads to his conviction.

In October 2020, David was sentenced to 40 years in prison without parole due to his prior criminal history and the evidence against him.

TLDR

David Wright's interrogation reveals his involvement in a murder during a botched drug deal, leading to a 40-year prison sentence.

Episode

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The killer claims to have an IQ of over 150. If I'm chipping away at that timeline,
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it can be exculpatory for you. Meaning that it excludes you as a suspect. I know my vernacular is very good, so
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you don't have to explain your words to me. Little does he know he's about to show
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exactly what you shouldn't do in a police interrogation. I wasn't in the car. I was at the
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Starbucks. Did you lie to me? I didn't I didn't get you on that one. I feel like I got you.
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On the 17th of February, 2019, David Wright and his friend Christopher headed to a drug deal on a street corner at
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3:40 a.m. Except this was no ordinary drug deal. It was actually a setup for a robbery on both sides. David demanded
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his buyers hand over their belongings to which they responded by pepper spraying
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Chris and running. Seconds later, David drew a revolver from his waist and fired
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a single shot into Raul Cuadros's chest, killing him instantly. David and Chris fled the scene and buried the revolver
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in a field and went about their nights confident there was no way they could be caught. But unfortunately, they were
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almost immediately identified through multiple cameras around the area everything went down in. David was
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brought in two days later, but still believed the cops would never find him guilty and that his extraordinary
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intellect would carry him through the case. How wrong he was. So, like I said, I mean, it's already
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been in the media. People Four people have been arrested. It's not like we don't know what
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happened to some extent, you know? But there's always more that we don't know from every single
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party, right? Everybody has a little piece of the puzzle. We don't necessarily get the truth from
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everybody. So, I would like to hear from you what happened. Well, I have no clue what to say.
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I'm just now hearing about this. So. I mean, the whole I don't know what you're talking about
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is kind of out the door at this point. I got several people who already identified you. You're identified on
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video. So, it's not a question of that you were there. It's more a question of what led up to this. Cuz I
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don't think this is what was actually supposed to happen, right? So, you're just going to play that that
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you have no idea what happened cuz you weren't there. I was not. No. Not only was David identified by
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multiple people through CCTV footage, but he also had no alibi and Facebook messages were recovered discussing
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details of the alleged drug deal. David was there at the time of the murder. The
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detective is just trying to uncover the details of exactly what happened and why. But, David is having none of it and
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has a plan to outplay the detectives. It's not helpful to you, really, to just be quiet and not say anything. Cuz what
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I have are people who are looking out for themselves because they don't want to catch charge. So, they're going to
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dime you off. They're not looking out for you. So, you believe somebody that's going to
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tell you that somebody else did something to save their own ass. Well, with all the additional evidence,
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yes. Mhm. I've been out of jail for all of a week and a half. I've spent almost every
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minute of it with my girlfriend. As for did I plan to kill anybody, did I kill anybody? No, I didn't.
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So, when I look at the GPS on your phone, it's not going to tell me that it's going to tell me that you were with
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your girlfriend the whole time. That you never were or over at Jackie's house. It should.
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The only reason you might tell me that is cuz maybe you didn't take the phone. Or maybe somebody else had my phone.
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It's been known to happen. Quite often, actually. My phone has been I left it in one
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person's car and it took me a day and a half to get it back. When was that? I don't know. That was earlier in the
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week and then I let somebody use my phone. They were supposed to just go to 7-Eleven to go meet somebody they were
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selling something to on Oper Up. Mhm. And they had apparently seven or eight things that they had to do between then
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and when they got back to the house. So, what day was that? I don't remember. And who was that?
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That was the guy that goes by Memphis. His nickname, I think, is first name is Joe.
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Black guy. David's only current alibi and defense is that maybe somebody else had his
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phone and was at the drug deal instead. He also backs up his story by saying he doesn't remember exactly which day
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everything occurred on, something that can't directly be proven or disproven. However, for this to be true, that
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person with his phone would also have to dress exactly the same as David, have access to his Facebook account, and
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according to his own description of the perp, change the color of his skin. It's
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not looking too likely. You know why you're here and what's going on. I mean, at this point, you're
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literally the last person we talked to, and the only person that has a an allegiance to you
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is Chris. I mean, obviously, people are not going to be shy about telling us who
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was there and who did what. And plus, we have video. There's video at the Chevron. There's
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video at the Shell. You know that we have all your co-suspects under arrest. All I want from you is a reason. I
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understand what happened. I just need to know why. The only person I know you have under
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arrest is Chris. Okay. We have Cody under arrest, and we have Tannehill, is his name, right?
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Right. He's in custody as well. We have his car. The car that was used, the car that was at Chevron, in our
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impound. They are all under arrest. Chris is under arrest because we viewed messages on the phones
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that organized picking you up. Those same messages from you to Cody. We have them on their phone.
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We've already viewed them. We have the Facebook communications between Chris and Breanna setting up the deal that
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happened where you guys showed up at the Chevron and walked down. This is how this played out. Your
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girlfriend's going to be dumb enough to provide you an alibi on a murder charge and then she's going to get roped up in
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a murder as an accessory. If you care about that person, you have just set her up for failure.
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And if you want your girlfriend jammed up cuz you just set her up for it, then that's your choice.
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Yeah. Can't threaten me with jamming her up. It's not a threat, man. I'm just telling
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you how it plays out. Like I'm going to go talk to her and she's going to be dumb enough to lie for you when I got
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video evidence that she you weren't with her. Dude, I get it. Like you had a quick
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come up, right? I I get it. I don't I don't think you were a stone-cold killer. I don't.
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Like if you accidentally shot the dude cuz you flinched or you got scared cuz of something he did, now is the
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time. If you come up with that stuff later, nobody is going to believe a word you say.
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How does somebody accidentally shoot somebody? Cuz if your finger's on the trigger,
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it's called a sympathetic reflex. It happens to police officers all the time. I think that's a term that's been come
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up with just to cover their asses for shooting people. Well, you can try to make it about that.
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I'm talking about you. I would know. Never shot anybody. There is a lot of merit for staying
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silent in an interrogation like this. In fact, in most cases, it's usually the best course of action coupled with
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asking for a lawyer as soon as possible. But here, David is trying to outright deny any association with the case even
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though he's been directly linked to it through multiple sources. All he's doing now is making it worse on himself and
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those around him, but his ego is telling him otherwise. Where do I go from here?
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And you're the police officer, reverse roles. You're you're the cop. You're sitting over here trying to figure out
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if this dude has any remorse for what he did or if he's just worried about getting in trouble.
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How would you proceed? I'm not worried about getting in trouble. I didn't do [ __ ]
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I'll just be up front with you. We got Cody's phone. The one that shows your phone number and
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your address. And the communications between you two. Like I have it. Like I'm I'm not trying to be a dick.
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I'm just laying it out for you because that's what met up with somebody doesn't mean that I
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went with them to go do something. This seemingly plain statement actually carries more weight to it than you might
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realize. The detective presented David with a piece of concrete evidence that he's saying puts him dead to rights. To
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which he responds by confirming he had indeed met with Cody, but it went no further than that. Again, it seems like
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nothing, but now the detectives know this tactic works on David, they can attempt to use the wealth of other
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evidence they have to slowly extract a full confession from him. Okay. So, when did you meet up with Cody then?
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1:00 or 2:00 in the morning, something like that. On what day? This Saturday or Sunday.
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Okay. Where did you meet up with him? Uh over by my house. Okay. And who was with him?
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That I don't know. Was he alone? When I met up with him, yes. So, why did you meet up with the dude
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that you didn't know? Because my friend Chris had asked me to. Okay. And so, what happened after that?
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Well, he had tried to proposition me for a handgun. Mhm. And I told him I didn't have one.
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Okay. So, did he say why? No. So, you guys meet up, you have this conversation, then what happens?
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He leaves. And how did he leave? Well, I walked back to my house, and he walked back to whatever vehicle he was
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in. Okay. Why did you leave that out when we first started talking? You thought that would be important,
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that the guy under arrest for murder came to your house looking for a gun. Well, if I had given him a gun, then I
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think that that would be important. Well, it shows his intent. I mean, of course it's relevant to the case, right?
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People buy guns for all sorts of reasons, man. Yeah, but in this instance, there was a
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murder. So, they went on their way. Just the Cody dude, and did you actually talk
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to the other guy in the car? How does he know who you are then? Maybe my name was mentioned when they
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were underneath the car. But he didn't see you. Unless he's seeing me when he's parked.
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But you didn't see the car. I didn't look for the car. Unless I'm coming to meet somebody at
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their vehicle, I don't ask what vehicle they're in. Well, that's not And again, don't take
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this wrong way. I'm not trying to insult you, but that's not very smart. You're meeting somebody to sell guns,
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and you're not going to watch around you to see where they come and go? It was returned to me by somebody that I
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trust. Okay. I would still be on my six. So, you clearly have an, you know, distrust of police.
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Is that fair to say? I distrust almost everybody. We're being honest with you about the
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information that we have. Trying to give you an opportunity. I mean, I I I mean, you've already said
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flat out you don't believe that that he has that information, but I mean, with everything he's told you, you have to
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know that what he's telling you is true. Well, whatever you have, you've got from
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people that may not necessarily be giving you information for the best of reasons. So.
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Take the people out of this. Take them out. Who cares about people? We've got other
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stuff. Communications and all those other types of things. The video. So, it's not just
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that people are telling us this. We're not relying 100% on people. If we did that, we'd be stupid, right?
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I like to think I'm not that dumb. We take a totality everything that we have. We know you're involved.
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And for you to sit here and just say that you you don't have anything to do with it doesn't make any sense.
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I think that you guys have me confused with somebody else. This interview has now been going on for
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over 40 minutes and almost no progress has been made. Forcing him into a corner with evidence doesn't seem to be working
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and neither does running through the events of the night or even explaining why what he's doing is a bad idea for
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him. So, instead the detectives almost completely switch up and begin to threaten him with the consequences of
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his actions on his own friends. Dude, you're not this guy. You know you're not this guy.
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If you were this conversation would be different. Yeah, I'm obviously not this guy.
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I meant I meant the dick that is letting everybody else go down for him. I meant
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that type of guy. That's not you. You have a reputation as being a stand-up dude.
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I think that whatever those guys did that leads you believing that they were accomplices and accessories and
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everything like that Yeah. would be their own fault if they [ __ ] hang for it. Really?
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Even though hypothetically you're the person who pulled the trigger? So, even though somebody else pulls the
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trigger, you're good with those guys going down. Your homie Chris, you're good with him going down.
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And I get it, you know what I mean, allegiance to these other two dudes. I understand that.
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But you're good with Chris going down. Getting 20 years off of what you did. You're good with that?
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If you guys have him orchestrating and setting up something like this, then that's his own fault.
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It's his own fault that you shot somebody. It's his own fault that you didn't do
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things the right way. That's his fault. I ain't shoot nobody. He should put himself around better
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people. Okay. You know he's going to read this, right? I mean he's going to have disclosure.
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It's not. I'd much rather not see my friend get in trouble, but if I you saying that
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you guys want me to tell you that I did something that I didn't do. Fair enough. I don't want you to tell me
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that you did something you didn't do. That's not what I want. I want you to admit to what you did do.
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Cuz it's not even a question that you did it. If it wasn't a question, you wouldn't be
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sitting here trying to get me to admit to something I didn't do. I would, because it's the right thing to
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do. You may not trust the police, but I don't want to jam up all these other dudes on a murder
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one charge for something you did, cuz it's not right in my mind that other people go down for something that
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serious off of what somebody else did. So, I do care about that. That's why I'm talking to you.
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Well, you're talking to the wrong guy. You don't care about those dudes? I'm not saying I don't care about them.
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I'm saying that you're talking to the wrong guy, because I didn't do [ __ ] I said I think that
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That's what innocent people say. Innocent people that actually give a Yeah. No. You know how many people I've
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had in that chair, man? Thousands. I don't You don't give a You don't give a [ __ ] That's you. I can enjoy your
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time. I don't care. Then I don't I don't have any uh hard feelings for you. I'm just going
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to move on to my next case. I just want you to know this isn't about you. This isn't personal. Like you can say you
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don't care, but I actually think you do. I think you're being so With that said, so you agree that uh
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there's nothing more to say, right? If you don't want to talk to me, then we're done.
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Well, I don't want to talk to somebody that's going to keep on calling me a liar.
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I have yet to call you a liar. You've made the implication that I'm lying to you.
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Cuz you are. But there's a difference between calling someone a liar and then pointing out inaccuracies in their
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story. There's a big difference. One is disrespectful. The other is not. Have I been disrespectful to you? Have I been
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disrespectful to you? Have I insulted you or come at you hard or done anything I didn't say I would?
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Yes, you did. You were lying. I'm not lying. Do you not freely admit that you lied to
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me in this interview? Where did I lie to you? About meeting up with Cody. About being home, not going out at all,
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and then now you periodically are going out. You do not concede that you told that those things were lies.
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I don't go farther than a couple blocks from my house on foot to meet somebody very quickly and come back.
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Okay. That's not what you told me. I said you don't leave your house. I don't leave my house. I was home all
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weekend with my girlfriend. It's on tape, man. There ain't no secret. Like dude, I've got to walk my dog. Of
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course I leave the house periodically. Okay. But as for did I go anywhere So you were never at casino in
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Evergreen, anywhere near there within three or four blocks Saturday night. I just want wanted to make sure that we
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have this down. Let's see. Something How far is the Starbucks on Evergreen? Which Starbucks?
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The one on 75th. Yeah, no, I'm not talking about that. Okay, yeah, then no, I wasn't.
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Okay. So you're at the Starbucks on 75th? Earlier in the evening, yeah, like 8:00
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or 9:00, something like that. Well, that's not home. Did you lie to me? Can I get a smile I don't even get a
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smile out of that one? I didn't I didn't get you on that one? I feel like I got you on that one.
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Blatantly caught in a lie, it might not seem like it yet, but David is starting to get uncomfortable. If it's not been
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obvious throughout the whole video, the only thing he cares about is his own ego. So now that that's been damaged,
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he's immediately on the back foot, and it's up to the detective to keep pushing and try to get him to move just that
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little bit further. Were you with somebody? Yeah. Who? Another woman. Who's that?
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Not going to tell you that because she'd be very upset. Yeah, but it's a homicide. It can help
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prove that you weren't involved. How? Cuz if you're with her, right? That that gets my timeline
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tighter. So, you were with her from 8:00 to what? Not very long. So, you were there a half hour at most.
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So, you don't want to tell me who that is? I really don't. Okay. Were you in a car?
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You were on foot? I rode my bicycle. So, 7:30? How'd you get home? I got a ride from her. Put my bicycle in
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the back of her SUV. So, there was a car. I get you there? Feel like I got you there, too.
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Yeah, I appreciate I'm just looking for honesty, man. I mean, at this point, I'm
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I feel comfortable that you have lied to me several times. I'm looking for honesty so that I can rule you out.
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You asked where I was Saturday night, Sunday morning. I did. Yeah. So, Sunday morning,
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late Saturday night, Yeah. doesn't cover 8:00 or 9:00 in the evening. Oh, okay. So, then let's rewind. So, Saturday
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morning to 8:00, where were you? Most of the time, at home. Can you just lay it out for me? Why do I
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got to like pull it out of you? Like, just I'm asking where you were, man, so I can rule you out.
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For the first time in an hour he's been sat in the interrogation room, David moves his hand from his lap and adjusts
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his cap. His hands have also been moving around very slightly and he's been stuttering over his words. His ego has
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been properly bruised and he's starting to get very uncomfortable. If provoked, narcissists such as David are likely to
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suddenly snap in an instinctive effort to prove that they are smart and in control, but often give up all the
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information the cops need to catch them dead to rights. So, the detective keeps up his no-nonsense direct questions to
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try and get him to crack. The only places that I go usually. I go to 7-Eleven. Okay.
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The little Asian market if, you know, we need tubes and tobacco for rolling cigarettes, but that's
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not very often. Okay. Walgreens. Yeah. What Saturday did you go to those places? I don't need to know where you
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generally go. I need to know where you went Saturday. I probably went to 7-Eleven at some
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point. Any idea what time? I go when I need something or want something. I understand, but that's why I'm asking.
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Like, any time? Do you remember wanting or needing something on Saturday? No, I don't because I don't feel like I
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need to track every one of my movements and [ __ ] like that because I don't need to have a
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locked tight schedule of what I'm doing and where I'm going. As long as I'm at the DOC on Thursdays between 1:00 and
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3:00 and I make my appointments with Ideal Options, then doesn't seem like a big deal to me where I go.
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Okay, unless you're being charged with murder and the county is a big deal, right?
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Yeah, but if I don't pay attention to and keep track of these things, how the [ __ ] am I going to tell you where I was
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without lying to you then because I don't know exactly when I was there. Well, you could at least try.
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Yeah. Yeah, I would try. If it can rule you out as a suspect in a homicide, I would try.
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Yeah, well, where I was Saturday during the day has no bearing on where I was Saturday night, Sunday morning.
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It does. Absolutely, it does. Cuz I can show you wearing different clothes or I can show you wearing the same
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clothes. Right? That's pretty important. Do you agree? I can show that you were with somebody
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else and not with these people. People change their clothes. People meet other people.
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Oh, no no question. But if I'm chipping away at that timeline, right? It can be exculpatory for you, meaning
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that it excludes you as a suspect. I know, My vernacular is very good. Sweet. So, you don't have to explain your words
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to me. But, dude, you can act like you're upset about that. You're not. So, let's move past it.
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The fact that you're talking to me like I'm a child You're not I'm not talking to you like a
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child. upsetting What did I How did I talk to you like a child? Tell me when. You had to explain a word that you're
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using to me. Most people don't know what that word means. I apologize. being idiots.
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Okay, you can pretend you're getting upset about it, but you're really not. No, what I'm getting upset
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You're trying to get away from the fact that you called me a Cuz you lied. You lied. No, I don't actually think I
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called you a liar. I did say you lied, but I don't think I actually called you a liar.
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So, I'll call it to you now so we can just move past it. You are a liar. You have lied. Do you want to tell me what
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happened or not? Couldn't tell you cuz I don't know. Fair enough. Well, then that's
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Close the tape out for you, all right, man. Should have done that a long time ago
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when I said the conversation was over. It's okay. Whatever you say, partner. And so it seemed the conversation truly
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was over as from then on David refused to even say another word, choosing not to exercise his perfect vernacular
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anymore. And predictably, he didn't last long in court. Given that he made no attempt to defend himself or cooperate
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with detectives, he was faced with the maximum possible sentence. David was also already a convicted felon with
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charges of arson, burglary, vehicle theft, and 35 other misdemeanors dating all the way back to 1999.
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So, in October of 2020, 33-year-old David Wright was sentenced to 40 years in prison without the possibility of
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parole.

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Episode Highlights

  • The Setup Gone Wrong
    A drug deal turns deadly when David shoots Raul during a robbery setup.
    “This was no ordinary drug deal.”
    @ 00m 33s
    April 08, 2023
  • The Consequences of Silence
    David's refusal to cooperate could lead to dire consequences for his friends.
    “You're good with Chris going down?”
    @ 13m 03s
    April 08, 2023
  • Caught in Lies
    David's alibi begins to unravel as the detective presents evidence against him.
    “Did you lie to me?”
    @ 16m 41s
    April 08, 2023
  • David's Downfall
    David's refusal to cooperate leads to severe consequences in court.
    “He was faced with the maximum possible sentence.”
    @ 22m 25s
    April 08, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • How wrong he was.
    What A 200 IQ Killer Looks Like
  • Dude, you're not this guy.
    What A 200 IQ Killer Looks Like
  • This isn't personal.
    What A 200 IQ Killer Looks Like
  • If it can rule you out as a suspect in a homicide, I would try.
    What A 200 IQ Killer Looks Like
  • You are a liar. You have lied.
    What A 200 IQ Killer Looks Like

Key Moments

  • Police Interrogation00:16
  • Setup for Murder00:33
  • Consequences of Silence13:03
  • Caught in a Lie16:50
  • Detective's Pressure19:05
  • David's Defiance21:17
  • Final Sentencing22:40

Tension Over Time

Words per Minute Over Time

Vibes Breakdown