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[Music] JJ welcome back to my podcast thanks for having me I really missed you I saw you just yesterday actually um
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this because of the nature of podcasting it's hard to know when people are going
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to be listening to this but it's coming out on a Thursday the day before that
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you have your final show on the air yes my final show on the air 33 years on the
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air and 30 years straight at media Works actually I've been at media works for 33
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years minus 4 months when I went to moved to Hamilton and worked on the breeze for four months it was initially
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it was called radio works then it's been called can West and it's yeah a bunch of
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different names yeah um is this a retirement or a pause that is a hard one because I want
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to say retirement but and everyone keeps asking me but I mean I haven't even left yet so
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I don't know like I'm I'm tired so I guess I'll find out like maybe who's to
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say maybe in a 6 months a year 2 years 5 years I might go oh I really must being
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on the radio and that that could very well happen um but I just don't I don't know I don't I actually
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don't think I will go back to music radio if I get an opportunity and talk maybe but you know I've had no
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experience and talk back so I don't know I'm going to say retirement people come
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out of retirement all the time so J Jay-Z's retired about Jay-Z retired about five times Michael Jordan retired
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a number of times yeah so many sports people didn't Tiger Woods retire then he
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came out of retirement um yeah so whatever yeah have you just stopped loving it um not really not really
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just I I'm so lucky it's such a fun job for the most part but it's a lot more
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stressful than people think it is you know it looks fun from the outside it looks glamorous and all that but it's
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hard hard work and I'm just I'm really really burnt out I really really just I
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can't think of any more creative ideas I've done them all I've just I I sort of get a bit sick of the
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uh the format so it's the same sort of routine of you know you you talk about
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something then you ask for callers to call in and then you know then you might do an interview and it's just for one
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Voice break and then the next Voice break you've got to do like a oneoff little chat about something and then the
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news is on like I sort of get a bit I'm a bit tired of this mundane kind of you
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know routine yeah CU people have that saying uh they talk about radio and they say oh no two days are the same but
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after 33 years there are a lot of days that I actually saw a Tik Tok um I wish I could credit her just some just some
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random and toonga yeah and it was her take on music radio in New Zealand and it was do you know the one I'm talking
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about yes it's hilarious yeah I wish I could I wish I could name her and she's
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um she's something like oh personalized plates saw a funny one of those today if
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you've seen a funny personalized plate text us on 9696 to win tickets to Despicable Me for had a curry last night
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for dinner but wa around the m k good morning Bay plenty I think you need to question your life choices if
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you've got a personalized plate really you know I think you really need to question
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yourself if you have dated your cousin give us a text on 3656 right now and uh we'll get you on the show get you some
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free passes to the latest Inside Out movie that is it's very funny the way she takes the piss out of radio is just
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spot on yeah but I mean no but I can't I can't diss radio CU I love radio but
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it's just for me I just feel like I've had my excitement and I've been a bit cruisy
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lately so yeah like running on sort of autopilot not creatively stimulated enough yeah not really and um you know
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part of that could be my fault but also part of it I just I just I just don't
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have the energy like I don't have the energy I had the first 30 years of my career you know I was um I was talking
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to um a mutual friend of us over the weekend who's also on on radio and he was asking about it because it does
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seem [ __ ] crazy what you're doing like at the moment you are I would think
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the highest paid female in New Zealand radio oh oh oh oh first of all that's
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personal second of all I would not suggest that at all who would be better highest paid Ki KI woodam would she I
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don't know but people on newb would definitely get paid more money than me and also I'm offended that you think I'm
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the highest paid that makes me sound rich and we all know that's not the case
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no no we're talking highest highest paid in a poo industry yeah a poo industry
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like if you make 70k a year you'll be [ __ ] lucky yeah okay no but we're
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always going with that before you so rudely interrupt with well I don't know
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how much people earn no but the the um media landscape is changing at such an alarmingly quick rate yeah um there are
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so many like qualified and experienced people out there be it from [ __ ] newshub or TV andz or wherever um that
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are scrambling for positions yeah and here you are just like willingly walking away which a lot of people can't
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understand I guess well I mean everyone's different why does everyone want to be the same
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um look I'm just I'm just tired I'm just tired like I need to walk away I do I
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need to I I could just keep doing this and what is what I've been doing the last few years I've been tired and I've
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just kept doing it and it just got to a point where I was like I actually stop stop stop think about what
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you were saying to yourself you're bloody exhausted and you need a break I can literally I'm barely getting through
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this week I barely am because I'm just like I'm so done um so you just got to
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listen to yourself I know we all need to make money but I think about I'm inspired by so many people who have
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shared these stories over the years with me about being made redundant or for some reason they can't work anymore
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suddenly or you know they lose a lot of money for some some reason and it's like
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devastating and people just don't know how they're going to pick themselves up
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but they pick themselves up like really quickly and most of them have no regrets
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they're like oh that was actually that was the best thing that happened to me
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so I'm relying on that for me I'm relying on the fact that my head will be
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clear and I can think of things I can do to make money cuz I don't need to make a
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lot of money I just need to make enough to get by I think I yeah I'm um I'm um
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incredibly proud of you oh no I um oh I'll get emotional talking about it no
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no no cuz I was um yeah I was telling this friend over the weekend like you you are a force to be reckoned with
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when when you've got a project that you're passionate about and and you can
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have complete control uh in complete say over over what you're doing you're
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[ __ ] Unstoppable and it's um it's not just a radio thing it's just what when
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you've got a project whether it's I don't know organizing a [ __ ] wedding which I had absolutely nothing
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to do with and you had everything to do with whatever it is um you're just an
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Unstoppable Force so whatever whatever you do next I'm just I'm really excited
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because I think um a I've got no doubt you'll be good at it and B um it'll just
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be good to see that fire in your belly again and see and see you see you passionate about something and come up
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when we so I you and I you were at the edge and I started working um at the edge
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with you in 2001 Y and later in 2001 we moved to Oakland back then bear in mind this was there may have been in terms of
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social media there may have been mypace and bbo I can't even might may have this
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may have even been pre- social media we only just got the internet around 99 I think and and and you you had your own
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your own website so you were a like a brand or an identity yeah way before anyone else was doing this um you had
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radio.co NZ and we moved to Orland and we were living together and You' spend
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every single Sunday night um with rolls of paper uh and um like GS out on the lounge floor and you'd spend hours
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rapping them and you were just so passionate about it and I feel like I haven't seen that JJ in a long time you
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know you're really driven about something and well radio check was uh that just grew
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legs like I won awards and uh you know I had advertisers and then I ended up having staff it was crazy and it just
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got a little bit too much for me to handle because you know having full-time radio job at the same time it was a lot
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so unfortunately I just something had to give and I gave up what I love doing I love doing the website but I love radio
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more and the website was just fun it was just like gave me something to focus on
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it gave me a hobby outside of radio it gave me I don't know I just I just really loved it and repping everyone's
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prizes and sending them out from me to them was just a really cool thing that I love doing I love connecting with people
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on a personal level so I don't want someone else to pretend to be me you know oh this this is from JJ when it's
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not you know um I don't know I just that's why as passate about it but yeah
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there is that's another thing that that no no one would know about you but you're um in of radio like you're a
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you're a you're a fighter for The Listener So like um there'll be a lot of
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people uh like like at Mor FM where you work down that probably happy to see the
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back of you oh there is if someone says hey great news JJ um every caller this week goes in the draw to win a pink
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ticket you'll be like [ __ ] off we're not doing that uh every caller that gets on
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needs to win a double pass and you'll you'll fight whereas most people like
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I'm I'm probably the same as fny who is your current cooworker I'll be like H
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I'm getting paid it's not my problem you want to you want to put everyone in the
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drawer for one ticket fine look I haven't I've I have been fighting and I've lost a lot of fights due to the
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financial situations of the media but um like no because I don't want people to
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have a [ __ ] experience I want people to have a great experience I want people to
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feel something they listen to the show they win something they just you know they just have a good time and what are
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they going to do they're gonna [ __ ] come back the next day well they're
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going to tell their friends and that's important to me because that's that was
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that's my living that's my life so it's important to me that I care about the
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people listening you know I mean I'm sure well if you're on the ear and you
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don't care about your listeners that much you're a [ __ ] fake fake fraud
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you need to reconsider your career choice I get real angry about it so yeah because what was the big battle you had
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last year like to do with Santa pictures or something there was a thing oh no I don't oh no no I did upset someone in
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the um promotions Department this this isn't about throwing anyone else under
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the bway this is just going going going to show the the the length that you go to about you know pouring your heart
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into the audience oh I don't actually want oh okay well we we took Santa on tour and
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everyone was going to get free Santa photos and and I was like oh cool how we you know how are we going to print them
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out what's the frame going to look like blah blah blah and I was told there's no
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money you know everyone's going to get a digital picture on their phone or whatever and I was like no no no no no
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no no no no no that's not going to happen not everyone has email but leave it or not and we did find this out by
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doing the tour it's amazing how many people do not have email or even uh a smartphone to send a digital photo to um
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and I just thought if you're going to go get your photo with Santa you're a kid
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you want to take something tangible away from that you get your photo then you hop in the car and you've got nothing so
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I just knew that would make the experience a little bit better and kids take it home it's a souvenir they put on
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the wall there JJ and fenny's name on there Mor F blah blah blah so um when I
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found out there was no money or not not that there was no money I just heard that we weren't doing it so I pulled my
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chair up next to um someone who was in charge of that and I said listen we are getting printed fot
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photos and she just looked at me and said no we're not we can't afford that
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and I was like no we are getting printed photos such an [ __ ] did you get did you get printed photos no this is what
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happen she goes we can't we've got no money she was really upset and I had to
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go and apologize to her later for being a diva but um I I said well we can't afford okay so
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why organize with Epson we were going to get a printer and we're just going to
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organize all that problem was it was such late notice we couldn't get the turnaround in time but you know Epson
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were pretty Keen to help us out and I just thought if you just had a bit more time and just asked around you might not
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even have to pay for it you could just get a sponsor or whatever um yeah so anyway we didn't get the printed photos
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and I'm just like I know it sounds like such a small thing but to me it's a big
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deal it Mak it just makes the experience that much better yeah um and I am sorry to that
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person she knows who she is and I have apologized to her and apologize to her again before um well one of my one of my
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favorite podcasts actually one of the most successful podcasts in the world is won by a guy called Steven Bartle called
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Diary of a CEO yeah fastest growing podcast in the world and he talks about 1 percenters so his team's growing so
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big now they their attention to detail is um to the extent that when the guest arrives they've looked into what the
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guest favorite music has and they'll have that piping through the ceiling wow
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okay so immediately so say for you you walk in here today and it's Wham playing
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oh okay I've evolved from where okay no no but I suppose my my point is there's parallels
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between what you've done and what and what he does and I know that it's come
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at a great cost over the years like people calling you a diva calling you a [ __ ] you're calling you hard difficult
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hard work do you know it's only people it's it's not anyone I actually work
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with everyone loves me everyone I deal with loves me it's just like the people
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that like the people that uh make the decisions can find that about me because I will fight against the decision if I
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don't believe in it if I don't agree with it so that's why but management as
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well like I come I run into management all the time because we disagree on things but at the end of the day we
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still have huge respect for each other man management loves me because they know that I'm
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passionate I'm not doing it for selfish reasons I do nothing for myself I do
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everything thing for other people yeah that's true and that's why um I don't
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know I feel like this would have been water a Ducks back to you but this really annoyed me last week so you made
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the announcement on the year that you're finishing yeah and uh it was everywhere
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it was on newshub it was on one news uh staff and New Zealand Herald and after about an hour of the story going up uh
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New Zealand Herald had to disable their comments on Facebook I I didn't see what
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the what the comments were prior to the disabling yeah um but how did that make you feel
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well I didn't even know about it till you sent me the screenshot so thanks yeah um well I F I felt really bothered
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by it piss me oh really um but I I feel like even if you saw the comments whatever they were before they were
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disabled you wouldn't have you do have quite a good um I don't know what's the word I'm
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looking for quite a good yeah like a thick skin or just yeah I mean I had Paul Henry run for a podcast last week I
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feel like there's elements of um you know him and you where you literally don't give a flying f
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like you could waste so much energy and time on what strangers write about you on
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Facebook like why I this is one thing I always come back to why do you care what
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they say you don't know them you don't know them they don't actually know you they think they know
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you and so I don't care what they think and I'm not here to please everyone I
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don't I don't expect every person in New Zealand to think I'm the greatest radio
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person in the world I know there's only a couple hundred thousand people who
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think that because that's how many listeners we have so I don't expect everyone to like me what I find rude is
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that if you've got anything nasty to say about someone why would you say it publicly why would you put it on social
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media what sort of person are you to do that like all of my friends all the decent people I know no none of us would
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do something like that so you've got to think about the type of person that would do that I just don't have time for
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them I don't care you don't like me who gives a [ __ ] I don't like you either go
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away you're not wasting wasting your energy going online talking [ __ ] about them
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yeah exactly just [ __ ] off already sorry for my swearing but I am in such a sassy
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mood at the moment just really do you feel you actually you do seem to be like a like lighter in spirit since um you've
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made this announcement oh look it's a weight off my shoulder I have to say yeah it's just a huge weight I mean
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I'm really sad and on Friday is going to be hard it's going to be hard um
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but I've made the decision now so it's happening I can't stop it yes so this
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podcast is going out on on a Thursday like 24 hours um before you're going to
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make your fwell speech have you put much thought into what you're going to say
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yes I have actually I've written already oh damn I should have brought them with
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me Mo most people will probably hear this after the fact yeah have you got it on your phone no
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no to my car what's the gist of it uh I can't even remember yeah bloody hell
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it's just you g to go out with the bang to O'Brien style what did she say [ __ ] us I
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actually okay this is what I really want to do I'm not going to do this I'm not
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going to do this but I wrote my speech and this is what I really want to do at the end of my speech this is what I was
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going to say so I'll tell you because it's not going to happen there's
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something I've always wanted to say on the radio and I've never had a chance
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peace out [Laughter] [ __ ] but anyway I know if I say that it' be funny but then the way
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people that just go it's really unclassy you could potentially undo a lot of work
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a lot of good work you've done over and it cost the company money from people
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complaining to the broadcasting standards Authority so I don't actually want to do that I don't want to leave a
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mess in my work you know I just I don't know what I'm going to say at the end of
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my speech I'll probably be blubbering me so I'll probably be like thanks for
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listening yeah yeah I I think realistically you will I think it's going to be a more
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emotional day than what you're anticipating that's why I wrote some notes down because I thought oh there's
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no way I'm going to be able to EDB this but I don't know it's going to be hard
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because I know how hard it's going to be for fenny and Dave and even pledge tomy's been a bit upset this weekend
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those are my two producers Dave and pledge they they're just so upset they really they really don't want
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our team to break up because we've been such a good team and I don't want that
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either but you know I have to I have to do this I just can't keep going at the moment
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yeah but um it does demonstrate just how good you are the fact that you've been
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like on autopilot the last few years and you still your ratings are still good you it's a very tough category you're in
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in the radio awards and you're in the finals or you win every year that's um
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like is it just too easy for you I was maybe and that's maybe why I'm sort of a
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bit bored it's too easy I don't know a friend of mine that's a real good golfer
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he was saying why the [ __ ] is JJ quitting I I I don't know if this is a good analogy or not but I said imagine
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Lydia Co right one of the world's best golfers imagine if she gets told by the
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boss of the golf course hey in future we only want you to do the pting nothing else yeah so she's just not being pushed
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yeah yeah it is a bit like that yeah I think like working at the edge uh ruined me in terms of you know we could just be
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so creative and we were encouraged to do the craziest stuff and just do what you want
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to do and at Mory is way different it's more conservative very conservative and
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they don't want you know to push boundaries and you know they everything's got to be family friendly
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and even though I uh adapted to the role pretty quick um I just I just don't
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can't express yourself I'm just kind of yeah I just feel like yeah there's Tes
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of things I want to say and do sometimes and I'm always like no told by the producer or the boss no you can't do
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that you can't do that and I'm like come on I was seeing you through like a an
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idea you like no couldn't do that couldn't do that just can't so um yeah I
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guess I guess I just aren't being challenged enough but I do appreciate that I've been able to work in the
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afternoons which you know what I was like doing mornings oh so hard getting up in the
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morning but um I'm always tired so even in the afternoon I'm tired but I've got
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way more energy yeah well you you me mentioned you mentioned the edge so I was there for 20 years most of that time
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was with you and Mike P you were there how many years in total uh since 94 to 2017 no not 94 yes 94 like 25 20 anyway
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um I feel like I feel like that there was there was a no no 27 years oh I can't count I feel like there was a very
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special like moment in time uh because no one in radio is um like pushing boundaries or doing anything really
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creative these days it's harder now though because social media has made it harder because everyone's got a bloody
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microphone so whenever someone is unhappy with something instead of doing the oldfashioned way of writing a letter
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to complain to the boss they just [ __ ] go on social media and and spt their opinion so uh you've got to be you
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can't upset people because but this is all you just can't you're not even
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allowed to have an opinion anymore because it might upset people so but all this is doing is accelerating the demise
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of radio as an industry yeah and I just think that the boss should be a little bit more Brave and go [ __ ] it let's just
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if you don't like it people exactly you've got so many choices you don't
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like it listen to The Breeze or magic for God's sake yeah okay come on um you
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don't have to pay for radio it's free and you can choose all right um okay let's go way
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back uh so you've been doing this since you were 16 years old hey you it was
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before your 17th birthday you were still at school and T where you started working at um energy FM yeah I started
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doing work experience when I was 15 and just on my 17th birthday because my birthday fell around Easter and Easter's
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when I started on air yeah so I was called up for the overnight show because the back in those days and then in then
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in 1991 there was no computers or anything like CDs had just come out when could
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just recently switch from records um so there was had to be someone in the station 24/7 there was no just you
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couldn't just roll music non-stop overnight so there was an overnight host and she didn't show up and like who are
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you going to get to work at 1: in the morning none of your day hosts are going to do it you know um and it's the last
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minute so Steven Joyce who was the boss at the time he was obviously desperate so he called me and he said how would
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you like to go on here and I was like yes please so yes so you would have been the only person in the building all by
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yourself there was yeah yeah it's crazy to think now cuz it's first of all
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there's no overnight shift now cuz it's all automated all with computers um but
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to have like a a 16-year- old girl there you'd want to have like a chaperon or
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security or you know just how times have changed what are what are your Recollections of your first voice break
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or your first show oh my God oh God I must see if I can find the tape this week cassette um yeah that's another
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thing that people wouldn't know about JJ you are a mad archiver I know I used to
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be I'm not now I've kept like everything that nothing's in an order I just
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haven't had time to I mean my photo gallery in album is an absolute mess now but it used to be
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organized but um yeah I mean I've got heaps of cassettes and stuff from a che
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but you know nothing from the last 15 years cuz since it's been computerized I
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it stuff gets wiped every 3 months so and I don't have copies of anything so
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it's a bit of a bummer actually but yeah it's quite sad that is that's one thing
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I really enjoy about the podcasting it's just more sort of permanent radio whether you do something really good or
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really terrible it's just sort of gone it's gone and that's and then your 33e
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career like a lot of people won't even remember specifics of what you did they'll just remember how you made them
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feel yeah and that that is exactly what I love doing the most it's making me
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feel something okay so were you good early on CU I I was um I think I was like a year year or two ahead of you
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maybe I was doing breakfast Shan palas North and in the radio industry like there was a there was a hum about you
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real early on really like about you being next big thing wow it's really nice you must have felt it like you were
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nominated for awards early on and straight away straight away um I don't but I don't know I don't
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know I don't know I just I just put myself out there I just wanted to do well you know I was
00:26:46
starting my career I needed to make sure this was going to be a long thing longterm thing um yeah and you you were
00:26:52
really driven back then energetic enthusiastic annoyed rubbed people up the wrong way I was very annoying just
00:26:58
ambitious yeah my boss Steven Joyce pulled me into the office one day at energ FM so I was about 17 and a half
00:27:04
and he goes uh look um we've just had a few people run the office say that you
00:27:10
maybe your ego is getting a bit out of control oh my God oh my God I was like what what I can't believe
00:27:21
this like I'm just me like I'm this is bouncy stepen T but that's the thing I
00:27:25
must have come across that way I would so annoying but I was just confident yeah I'm not that now far out not that
00:27:31
confident um what is that saying that youth is wasted on the young yeah that's
00:27:35
the thing it's but I looked back now and I think far out what a pain in the ass I
00:27:38
must have been but hey whatever whatever I'm here now and um my first voice break
00:27:43
was awful I was like my voice was so high I was scared as how my heart was racing I wrote down everything I said
00:27:51
for about the first six weeks on here you know and um it was just like energy FM taranaki's best music the most
00:28:01
fun I don't know it was just anyway JJ FY keeping you company till 1 a.m. or
00:28:06
here Brian Adams Summer of 69 oh my God new music on energy FM t something like that so close in Ste you still got have
00:28:16
you got a tape of it somewhere yeah I'm going to I I'll have a look and see if I
00:28:19
can drag it out before the end of the week wonder will it still play I was going to ask you uh have you
00:28:24
still got that um boom box that converts to USB I do yeah bought a tape player where you can convert them to USB oh
00:28:32
yeah okay well I'll borrow that off you I'll try and get it maybe I could get on
00:28:35
a time for you to put this podcast up if I get in the next day or two yeah that'
00:28:39
be amazing and you can insert here first voice break ever on energy FM 1991 17 years
00:28:48
old no experience taranaki's best music 93.2 G FM the station that's live and local 24
00:29:00
hours every day with the Escape Club and call it poison it's 10 1 on a dark Saturday morning I'm JJ feny and we're
00:29:08
rolling through more than half an hour of continuous stereo music along the way Stevie Nicks ice house and Madonna but
00:29:15
he's sting and all this time on energy FM no future yeah it's pretty awful but um
00:29:25
Steven Joyce would have me in his office and and he would listen to the tape it's
00:29:29
called an ear check they ear check you they listen to you and he he was giving me tips and they weren't just about what
00:29:35
I'm saying CU back then I basically had to read liners and stuff it was more he
00:29:40
go add light and shade in your voice smile here pause here and he would just give me all these kind of technical tips
00:29:46
and i' would put a sign on the um in front of me that said smile so when I'm
00:29:50
talking I'll be like energ him you know so I listened to everything he said I still I think I've still got
00:29:58
his notes somewhere but yeah yeah cuz I had the same sort of coaching and the the big saying at the time in radio was
00:30:04
tight bright and real so you had to keep it tight be upbeat and but also be real
00:30:10
have fun be relaxed but it's like you got to be relaxed within those constraints yeah yeah um first and last
00:30:16
time and you got your boobs out oh jeez I feel like this was um yeah this was like sort of a big part
00:30:23
of your career really oh unfortunately I don't know like uh um I always had quite great quite great birds
00:30:32
right they're even okay now I've had a Brit reduction and I'm 50 so they're you
00:30:36
know they're not bad now but not like the hey day and I I was you're not going
00:30:40
to get them out on your pH show for all time sake do you want to see them now I just ask your
00:30:47
girlfriend can I flash on my um first time when did you first nudity was like quite a big thing when
00:30:55
we were at the edge and I think it um it got to the point a lot of people like oh
00:30:59
[ __ ] oh the just love taking their kid off but from from our perspective I may
00:31:04
have this wrong correct me if I wrong but it's like some of people's biggest most
00:31:09
people's biggest fears of public speaking which we were doing yeah and getting naked in public oh God yeah so
00:31:14
to do that it's like crossing a couple of boundaries immediately that no one
00:31:18
would ever do it always pulled a crowd getting nude was always always getting hits always getting ratings so it was
00:31:24
just one of those things that you just did cuz you knew it was going to work like after a while it becomes like
00:31:29
diminishing returns but when was the first time where did that start oh God I think I think I can't I don't know I
00:31:39
can't really remember it might have been the roundabout are the body painted
00:31:42
tenners no before that there's this big roundabout in Hamilton cuz uh Founders
00:31:49
Founders theater roundabout the statue of the sheep yeah and um I think I did like strip honking
00:31:58
oh yeah so car cars drive past they're listening to the radio CU it's live and
00:32:02
for every toot you take off an item of clothing yeah I think that was that then you get a truck driver that toots 10
00:32:08
times and ruins it yeah and I was down to my G string like very quick but the busiest roundabout ever like there's a
00:32:15
traffic jam guys in bloody um fluo vests and hard hats bloody trying to get I mean this is remember this is like
00:32:25
early '90s the internet was just new there wasn't a lot of places to see nude
00:32:28
women this is like free porn and I had a good rig back then I mean I've always
00:32:34
thought I was fat but I wasn't I look back now and I'm like wow what I do for
00:32:37
that body again and then we did yeah nude tennis was probably the most one of the most famous things we did at the
00:32:44
time um in terms of in the industry as well so me and bad ugly Bob who was my H co-host at the time he's since passed
00:32:51
away which it's a bit sad cuz he's very he was very [ __ ] cool but um when the
00:32:56
Davis Cup was in New Zealand uh New Zealand against Switzerland I think we're playing so we decided to
00:33:02
have a tennis match in the middle of the main street of Victoria Street Hamilton
00:33:06
so we basically stopped traffic and he was Bob was body painted in New Zealand colors and I was body body painted in
00:33:13
the Swiss so I had a g string on but otherwise you know and the paint was just some [ __ ]
00:33:20
cheap paint from the Art Shop that was cracking as soon as it dried just got crack painel over me and we were just
00:33:26
playing tennis like not not to any rules or anything just whacking the ball back
00:33:30
and forth basically and this huge crowd there and you know people just started cheing in
00:33:37
and yeah that was that yeah people just tuned in because they wanted to know what hell what the hell's going on and
00:33:42
this is the age just started getting bigger and bigger and bigger from doing stunts like that like in public and
00:33:48
stuff that no one else had the gut guts to do yeah cuz it was all about like creating noise eh so if you hear enough
00:33:55
about something it's like a TV show now or someone on Instagram or Tik Tok if you
00:33:59
hear enough about someone you'll end up giving them a follow yeah and it was the
00:34:02
same sort of thing with radio back then I feel like they would still apply now but no one's got the sort of courage to
00:34:07
do anything really sort of yeah Dearing or interesting oh what um what about Jason
00:34:13
dero was that the most oh Jason D memorable taned my verbs oh my God I just still can't believe that
00:34:22
happened because I can't believe that Jason Derulo or his publicist or whatever let him do that to me so I took
00:34:29
my top off in the studio like absolutely like it's on YouTube you can Google it
00:34:35
if you like um and he put He put these Ms on these tanning Ms that we' just been sent and was like rubbing my just
00:34:43
like he was there in the time of his life and I'm like yes this is amazing yeah you remember um cuz we we we talked
00:34:50
about the idea CU this was you me and Mike we talked about the idea and we thought oh maybe Dera will be pulled out
00:34:55
of the interview or he'll walk out but either way that's a good outcome but he
00:35:00
was into it and it it was called secret glow and as he was putting it on he was like it's not a secret
00:35:05
anymore the magic Jason okay JJ this is awesome hands away JJ hands away amazing they feels so
00:35:19
good that's what I'm saying and you know the weird thing is like after that interview about 10
00:35:27
minutes after he left I started getting I started burning so I actually was allergic to the tan so I had to go and I
00:35:35
didn't have a towel or anything but I to try and find one a scratchy old towel at
00:35:38
work and um go and have a shower and wash it all off that's amazing um are there any moments that
00:35:46
make you cringe thinking about that come to mind I'm sure if you had if I gave
00:35:49
you five minutes to think about it I'm sure you could come up with the list but
00:35:52
anything that Springs toor oh God oh my my memory is so [ __ ] there just so many
00:35:56
things in it you know um God I there's a lot of things that make you cringe I
00:36:01
think I I generally forget straight away um you can you think of anything oh I don't know oh I don't know
00:36:09
I was really bummed out this is one of the best things we did maybe on your final year at the edge um where we did a
00:36:15
prank called a Simon banet and Gary MCC on um um yeah we won an award for that but they they they end up taking it
00:36:22
really badly and I learned that day a a prank is only really good if the person you're pranking finds it good yeah only
00:36:30
it's like any joke it's only funny if the person you're telling it to thinks
00:36:34
it's funny otherwise we no way no way of knowing yeah I thought they'd take it in
00:36:39
good fun but they they didn't you I think we just they were embarrassed and that's the problem when when you're
00:36:45
embarrassed when you've got egg on your face you know it's that's the problem is
00:36:51
we embarrass them so much and I I you know I feel bad about that but also we won like the best bit of the year on
00:36:58
radio for the prank and there was so much work that went into that prank um Tom Cruz impersonator it was I'm just it
00:37:07
was genius actually it genius so I don't really regret the prank but I do regret upsetting people
00:37:14
yeah but it really puts a like we won the award like eight months after the call happened and it's like oh it just
00:37:21
felt like a hollow Victory because it's like you don't want to upset anyone also
00:37:24
I had started at Mory fam already so I'm sitting at the table at the radio awards
00:37:30
with Simon bnet and Gary McCormack and Sam backer their producer who had burst into tears and told me to get a life and
00:37:38
I'm sitting there at this none of them are looking at me when they say the Tom
00:37:42
Cruz prank and the award you know goes to JJ Mike and Dom or whoever it was JJ Dom Rand can't remember now JJ Dom Rand
00:37:48
obviously and um I I it was so it was awkward it was so awkward so it was a hollow Victory I felt so embarrassed and
00:37:57
actually is that why you're leaving now cuz it's just been recently announced
00:38:00
that Simon bannet is returning to Mor FM protest it might have been in his contract that he refuses to work with
00:38:07
me and so I'm like okay no I'm joking um 2014 would you say that's your that's
00:38:14
your best year or most memorable year in radio 2014 yeah what happened that year
00:38:19
the the radio WS that year you were hosting with K Water um and it was also the first year that there was there was
00:38:25
a couple of new categories introduced the kin black award and the S homes award and we we cleaned up that year oh
00:38:32
right that was a good year yeah I mean but the thing about radio awards is you know it looks good on your CV not
00:38:42
that you need your CV for anything because there's only two radio companies but um you know you win the award and
00:38:47
you feel really good about yourself but then the next day it's never mentioned
00:38:51
again ever you know is the only time it's ever mentioned is when Mike Hoskins
00:38:56
wins it because you know the herald owns yeah so of course everything he does like in the news but it's basically
00:39:05
just forgotten and and then the next year someone else wins it so it's like whatever yeah that's one thing um I
00:39:12
found I was quite um it it'll be interest to see what your take is in 3 months 6 months 12 months from now CU I
00:39:18
found that you you you and you and me our past were very similar I was in radio for a very long time yeah um and
00:39:24
then you get out and you realize you've worked so [ __ ] hard in this industry
00:39:29
that you're so passionate about and no one else gives a flying [ __ ] um I don't
00:39:33
even know when the radio ratings come out now I I never know what the results are unless I get a popup as you say from
00:39:38
New Zealand Herald saying how good their radio stations have done yeah and they never mention us it's just if you're if
00:39:43
you're out of that um that sort of orbit it's it's just not even a thing and um
00:39:50
what what made me upset about that is like I put so much of myself into this and you realize oh I could have put this
00:39:57
energy into far more valuable things yeah I know in a way that's how I feel too this is how I feel I feel like okay
00:40:04
I've done 33 years and what am I going to get nothing you know I'm going to get a shared lunch on
00:40:12
Friday and you know a speech and that's it it's good memories and you yeah and
00:40:20
that's the thing is like you can't rely on other people to make it good for you
00:40:24
you have got to make it good for yourself yeah yeah how how has the radio industry
00:40:30
evolved since you first started for better and For Worse oh God that was a j GPT question by the way
00:40:37
was it yeah I thought it was quite good I was going to say it sounds a bit wordy
00:40:40
for you um well obviously technology has evolved so um you know there's a lot of
00:40:46
Automation and and being like when I started on radio you no one knew what you looked like there was no your face
00:40:53
was nowhere you were Anonymous you could walk down the street and no one knew you
00:40:57
but now your face is everywhere because of social media and um all that sort of stuff so you're you forget like when
00:41:03
you're on the air you're being filmed as well I always forget that cuz the
00:41:06
cameras are just on the wall and I I forget they're there and every time I see a video I'm like oh my God bad angle
00:41:11
bad angle bad angle whatever oh why did I dress up for work well I can't be bothered but um so yeah technology has
00:41:18
evolved um and you know we it goes from Cycles like it it was very um straight you know you just do fun fun fun promos
00:41:27
and and PE and and you talk about fun promos like going down the beach with the free Coke on the weekends and stuff
00:41:33
to people who are out the beach the coke Patrol yeah and then it evolved into all
00:41:36
the stunty stuff that we did like at the edge and then now it's come back around
00:41:39
again and it's a bit more sensible and you know try not to piss people off so
00:41:44
it's evolved in that way and I don't know like all through my entire career
00:41:50
people always go oh something news come up it's going to kill radio you know oh
00:41:55
CDs are going to kill radio kill radio V music videos are going to kill radio didn't kill radio I remember we when the
00:42:02
when the iPod first came out everyone was like w you're going to hold like a
00:42:05
thousand songs on this radio is dead your radio has always been very resilient he and very good at evolving
00:42:11
and um facing up to the challenges yeah what do you what do you think is the future of radio except I do think that
00:42:17
what's going to kill radio is podcasts I do think that um so radio's really got to take a good look at itself
00:42:26
right now and I think like we've lost a lot of the connection um with radio the reason people like listening
00:42:40
to us is they feel like they know us they can connect with us but if we can't
00:42:44
be honest and have our opinions why are people connecting with us not because I'm talking about um oh the this the oil
00:42:53
light's been on on in my car for 2 weeks give us a call and tell us what you know what light's been on in your
00:42:59
car forever like no one's going to connect anymore so why aren't they letting us be us and just say what we
00:43:06
want to say they hire us because we're personalities but then I feel like we're
00:43:11
being controlled now and like you can't say this and you can't say that and you
00:43:16
can't be you like I don't want to be a puppet and I think that's the problem is
00:43:23
they've got to let us like be personalities again and connect with people well you look at look at the most
00:43:29
successful people in the country um say Paul Henry Mike hosking um they are UNAM
00:43:35
themselves yeah and you like or hate Mike hosking right yeah so polarizing people hate him but they're still
00:43:41
listening to him what do you think he cares about the haters no he doesn't cuz
00:43:46
he's he's so good at what he does he doesn't even care and that's that's
00:43:49
awesome I love people who don't give a [ __ ] yeah I don't know Argan sometimes
00:43:53
when he gets out of the shower he probably cries into his V oh he probably does I mean I hear new talkless can be a
00:43:58
bit brutal you know with their with the comments like we get some brutal texts and stuff but nothing like that would
00:44:04
get um yeah it's it's interesting yeah I I tend to agree I feel like the future's
00:44:08
probably um more micro audiences on podcast than the big audiences of radio stations so instead of having Mor FM
00:44:16
with half a million listeners or ZB with a million listeners or whatever it just
00:44:20
be a bunch of podcast with 50,000 listeners or 20,000 listeners or maybe well you look at on social media micro
00:44:26
influencers so if you've only got 10,000 followers you can be making a good living selling you know pimping products
00:44:34
yeah you don't have to have 100,000 followers or whatever because because companies want to get people who are
00:44:40
targeting Their audience specifically so micro audiences are a yeah big thing yeah and and podcasting is such an
00:44:48
intimate experience like I think most of it's probably done alone or with airpods
00:44:52
in or whatever um what what advice would you give to someone that's thinking
00:44:57
about getting into radio now oh um Run for the hills no I wouldn't like no it's been
00:45:05
it's been very good to you and to me yeah no I'm not I'm not yeah there's
00:45:09
still a lot of life left in the old dog yet is hell yeah there is Radio is still
00:45:13
despite what I said before about podcast it's going to take a while because radio
00:45:17
is still the number one consumed audio in the world by a long shot and especially like with our generation we
00:45:26
grew up listening to the radio so it's in our habits to listen to the radio younger ones they're not really growing
00:45:31
up with the radio in their room so much so it may change a little bit well no one has a radio in there I mean I'm the
00:45:37
exception but most people don't have a radio in their house anymore like an actual an actual unit do they yeah I
00:45:43
don't even have one but um I think like for new people I would just say like first of all it's
00:45:52
going to be hard work it is going to be hard work and you if you want to succeed you really have
00:45:59
to put yourself out there as much as possible like really find out where the boundaries are and push as far as you
00:46:07
can and just um you know you have to do a lot of self marketing because there's
00:46:12
never any money to Market your show ever but it's it's never been easier to do
00:46:17
that than what it is now though with say you know Tech various platforms you know
00:46:20
TK Tok Instagram all that and i' also say there's like so many different jobs
00:46:24
in radio not just being on the air you could be a producer you could be a writer like someone who writes ads you
00:46:29
could be in the promo department and you set up like the big station events or you you set up you sell to clients to
00:46:36
get the great promos on the air like trips to give away and stuff or you could be a salesperson or you could be
00:46:41
the receptionist or you know you could be in the podcast section of work or this you could be a programmer a
00:46:47
contentor there's so many jobs so if you're getting into radio like I'd spend
00:46:51
a bit of time really working out which one of those is going to be your most passionate what are you going to be the
00:46:55
best at and just and just go for it and just have fun just have fun as someone who is uh again I'm
00:47:04
biased here but I'd say I'd say you're the goat you know that that term gets
00:47:07
thrown around but um this is so weird yes but in terms of um in terms of like everything you've done longevity success
00:47:16
money that you've earned impact you've made whatever measure you want to take
00:47:19
it on I'd say you're the you're the goat when it comes to female New Zealand
00:47:23
broadcasters and music radio uh what qualities do you think are essential for success in
00:47:28
broadcasting you can't take yourself too seriously you have to be willing to do things you don't want to do and
00:47:40
share more of yourself than you want to share you have to be vulnerable and open
00:47:44
and honest those those are hard for a lot of people to do a lot of people don't want to talk about what's really
00:47:50
happening in their life but you you really just have to uh you have to just connect with people and be just remember
00:47:57
your listeners if they if they're not there you don't have a job so look after
00:48:03
them don't take them for granted make them love you that's just and then everything else
00:48:12
is sweet not even r at work has to love you like the checking the promotion had a fight over the S you
00:48:20
don't not everyone has to love you but um your listeners have to love you yeah
00:48:25
yeah and I just appreciate your one thing I've found doing this um podcast for like two and a bit years now is um
00:48:31
um vulnerability is sexy as [ __ ] is it yeah like everyone everyone has everyone
00:48:36
has flaws everyone has demons everyone has [ __ ] going on and uh if you can embrace it it just makes people lean
00:48:44
into you yeah it's really awkward though it is it's embarrassing it's hard it's
00:48:48
hard yeah even I find it hard you and I have given like you pretty much no bloody everything about us you do it's
00:48:55
always like we have to either tell you or someone else tells you but it's it is
00:49:00
embarrassing it is hard at times but it's just part of the job yeah no you know over the years you know I've
00:49:09
reflected on that about and there's once you give stuff away you can't take it
00:49:12
back yeah um yes once I feel like in some ways we maybe gave too too much of ourselves away we just wanted wanted to
00:49:19
win at all cost also like in real life you and I are open people we we we we do share too much like I'm not I'm not
00:49:28
someone who has too many secrets and I don't like lying or hiding things so I
00:49:34
will I wear my heart on my sleeve I will this is me like you can get all of it the sort of person I am the sort of
00:49:42
person you are too we do overshare accidentally lying lying's too hard oh lying then you just got the [ __ ] to
00:49:50
remember um I was going to wrap it up should we do some just sort of um quick fire or throw some names at you how are
00:49:56
you going for time oh I'm all right I probably got about another 15 minutes comfortably okay
00:50:01
we'll just see how it goes 2008 shaving your head Reflections on that I loved
00:50:06
that okay so I shaved my head I raised $111,000 for the leukemia and blood foundation and so we said if we if I
00:50:14
raise 5,000 I'd shave my head we got Monty beam and to shave my head for me I
00:50:19
saw a photo of this the other day so this is 2008 he looks exactly the same now I loved I loved it like I was scared
00:50:27
but yeah you were petrified a lot of people are real fussy with their hair but I'm not so I was just like well
00:50:32
it'll grow back but I was worried like what will I look like but then you know
00:50:36
you can always get a WG or a hash and I just thought it looked kind of fierce I did I did get treated differently for a
00:50:43
while like when you go places you can just like same as when I had dreadlocks when I was bored and had dreadlocks I
00:50:49
got treated differently by people that's right the white dreadlocks in the '90s
00:50:53
early 2000s I was dating you so it was like you were it was like 999 yeah it was around 99 2000 probably
00:51:01
about the time of like Limp Biscuit even Ence I don't know I got talked into the
00:51:06
dreads but look either way people do judge you I feel like now now you'd be canceled for cultural misappropriation
00:51:14
probably would wouldn't I probably it's a bit weird see people take things too
00:51:18
far though come on yeah are you if I get dreadlocks does it make me like racist or something no but anyway um but there
00:51:26
was a big called that's what I'm saying before about you being the goat I mean
00:51:28
um yeah poly GIS also had a phenomenal career but I couldn't imagine her shaving her head um Carrie woodam I
00:51:34
couldn't imagine her ever ever doing it well they would have all been offered
00:51:37
the opportunity cuz I've been asked a few times to save it but I thought I've
00:51:40
already done it once I don't want to do it again but um like whatever didn't
00:51:45
matter I I I really I'm really proud that I did that I wish I'd rais more
00:51:49
money actually but I at the time I thought that was a shitload of money yeah it was it was cool it cool Clark
00:51:54
gford what about him well just like his story that Springs to mind when I say that name CL G he was um he's just into
00:52:02
aan husband yeah so yeah well I went with him on the edge breakfast show I think I took his job no we overleap for
00:52:09
a little bit I think no you didn't take his job he cuz he he started doing like
00:52:14
cow TV or something in the South Island chist I think and then um or denen then he came to work with us and he was like
00:52:22
really I really enjoyed working with Clark he was such a great guy and we got got on really well and like we were
00:52:28
young so we'd get up to a bit of Mischief together nothing naughty like no nothing um sexual not me and him but
00:52:35
you know just like hanging out with go get drunk and yeah and do and do pranks and things like we just yeah we had fun
00:52:42
time oh here's a blast from the past um Chingy Chingy oh Chingy oh my God come
00:52:50
on one more boob story oh Chingy okay he what was his song um right there right I
00:52:56
like it when you put him right there right there yeah I don't know why I he said something like oh that's right we
00:53:02
came in he came in for an interview and his name's Howard Howard is his name not chy but
00:53:07
anyway we were talking to him I was like um I I can't remember what happened
00:53:11
anyway he go I said what what do I call you or what what happens if I see you at
00:53:15
you know Edge Fest and he goes you say what's good Howard okay and uh and then
00:53:20
he said something like put him on a glass or something I I don't know anyway
00:53:24
I thought this would be hilarious I wrote what's good how across my chest and went and press
00:53:31
my on the back of his picom boobs on his window of his P come and he and all his
00:53:38
bandmates were loving it hilarious um Tom Cruz Tom Cruz best celebrity experience ever you will you will attest
00:53:46
to this um look people say Tom Cruz is crazy and I think after our experience with him you could probably say maybe he
00:53:54
is but look he he's just like such a long story look we Tom Cruz was in town we we had a
00:54:07
bounty $5,000 Bounty this is before the this is where we got the this when Simon Bonnet decided to do
00:54:13
a $5,000 Bounty this is why we got a Tom Cruz impersonated because we were pissed
00:54:17
off that he had stolen our idea from years ago yes this is the early 2000s when Tom Cruz was in taneki filming the
00:54:22
movie Last Mur and not he he did like a I think there was a poty on a Ral yeah and then maybe a press conference and no
00:54:28
other media I was at the press conference and I did ask ask him a question my question at the press
00:54:33
conference was what are you doing later so he remembered me from that but um we'd put a $5,000 Bounty out there if
00:54:41
you get Tom Cruz to call us for 5 minutes we'll give you $5,000 people just went nuts trying to get Tom Cruz to
00:54:46
call us like they were leaving messages in the letter box of the house he was staying at and trying to get people on
00:54:50
set to uh you know talk to them so in the end um his sister called us and she said
00:54:57
we will get Tom to call you we need to put a stop to this but there's a school
00:55:02
in uroi and they want to get a sunshelter for the the kids and it's $144,000 how about you up your 5,000 to
00:55:08
7 and Tom will pay the other seven and you can go halves and giving uroi School the sun shelter and we unbelievable P
00:55:16
hell yes yeah so Tom Cruz calls us it's meant to be five minutes live on the air
00:55:22
20 minutes later we're chatting to him 20 minutes it was amazing and then had
00:55:26
just finished a night shoot it was like4 to 700 in the morning yeah and he called
00:55:30
us and he was just so great and he was telling a story about getting fish and chips and Ur Beach and blah blah all the
00:55:34
stuff um anyway so we next minute you know the news is all over it and we go to urano school and give them the this
00:55:42
giant check from us and Tom Cruz Tom wasn't there and that got gets on the news and everything and we were like
00:55:48
that is so cool we want to thank you Tom so we um got thousands of people in tanaki to show up at the bowl of
00:55:55
Brooklyns we're Black And We spelled out tomaki on the grass so we renamed taranaki Tomi and the Daily News flew
00:56:06
over took this amazing photo it was Front Page News by the way for under the age of 35 The Daily News is a newspaper
00:56:14
ask you ask your parents and and um Tom saw it he bloody loved it okay he loved it and he um first of all he sent us
00:56:25
like this giant bunch of flowers like never seen a bigger bunch of flowers right must have cost him 500 bucks um
00:56:32
and he invited us to the set of The Last Samurai and we weren't allowed to tell
00:56:37
anyone and it could only be me you Jason Reeves and our promotions person and newth at the time Becks and we had to go
00:56:45
in secret and we were Charter flight got a charter flight there and we arrived at
00:56:51
the set and Tom Cruz was doing one of the scenes and it was just surreal standing there watching him bloody
00:56:56
filming this Hollywood movie and um he met with us and we gave him some gifts and we got photos with him and he um he
00:57:05
you know he was just really really passionate talking to us really just really Thanking us for you know making
00:57:11
his time there awesome bloody blah blah blah for the Tomi thing and um he and he
00:57:16
goes how about you guys go and have some lunch over there so we went over to this
00:57:20
big mess tent where all the actors are bloody Tom cruzers Doppel gang is there and there's just all these food truck
00:57:27
sort of things and we had this lunch and we were all sitting there going wow we just met Tom Cruz like how Buzzy is this
00:57:33
what the [ __ ] just happened and then and then this guy comes over and he goes uh
00:57:37
Tom Cruz wants to see you in his trailer so when you finish your lunch can you go
00:57:42
over to his trailer and we were like um okay so we go over to his trailer which is this big white Caravan thing and it's
00:57:50
surrounded by this little white picket fence there's no security nobody around
00:57:55
just us for and we step up and there's Tom just like doing these stretches from the ceiling
00:58:02
of the correct me if I'm wrong about any of us and we're like looking around we
00:58:06
step into his trailer goes come on in and there's like nobody else there just
00:58:10
us and Tom Cruz and everything is monogrammed with the TC logo he's got this cream leather couch he's got this
00:58:17
[ __ ] off massive TV that's bigger than this and um you know you can see down
00:58:22
the hall to his bed and photos on the wall of Penelope and and his kids and he had this Scientology chart and just it
00:58:29
was Buzzy man and he goes guys guys I want to show you something I want to show you know we've just cut the first
00:58:35
trailer to The Last Samurai and we want you to I want you to be the first to see
00:58:39
it and we're like um okay none of us are speaking basically we just don't know
00:58:45
what to say we're sitting on this couch he turns Up the Volume real loud and
00:58:49
he's playing this trailer from The Last Samurai which goes for about 2 and a
00:58:52
half 3 minutes and we're just like staring at it Tom Cruz is standing right here
00:58:59
and it finishes and we all just sitting there in silence and he goes so what do you
00:59:07
think we just were like uh it's good yeah it's good it's good like what else
00:59:13
do you say like I don't know I mean it's no mission impossible for me but it's
00:59:18
okay anyway this is so weird anyway and then we're just chatting a bit more and
00:59:22
I'm thinking I don't want to be that person that overstays her welcome and
00:59:25
Tom check us out so I decided to call it so I was like okay well we'll let you go
00:59:31
okay Tom thanks for having us and we just W out we get into the car and we're
00:59:36
all driving down the road like it's about a minute into the sh no one says is a word and about a minute into it we
00:59:42
all just burst out laughing we were like what just happened it was insane it was
00:59:49
crazy and then um I think a couple of weeks after that they finished up the shirot and he phoned us on the morning
00:59:54
that he was leaving just to say hey goodbye New Zealand so we were sort of like the the the platform um that he
01:00:02
chose to like say hello and say goodby to New Zealand it was [ __ ] amazing and but it just demonstrated the power
01:00:07
of the radio platform at the time if you do the right thing yeah that's so cool
01:00:12
um and then he invited us to the um opening of his movie Collateral Damage in the States oh collateral yeah with
01:00:19
Jamie Fox yeah yeah so he goes oh come to the pre premiere of this and we're
01:00:22
like oh okay so we go to La but sadly it was just a media Premiere and he wasn't
01:00:28
there Jo was all dressed up all dressed up in the best Michael K's shoes it was
01:00:32
just like just a PO evening I was just like wishing I wasn't married to you at
01:00:35
the time because I thought I bet you Tom Cruz would definitely leave Penelope for
01:00:38
me yeah it was Penelope Cruz um [ __ ] we we're going to run out of time but
01:00:44
there's there um well people can turn off if they want okay you can have I'm
01:00:48
mindful of you getting being somewhere else what out Lady Lady G I've got to be
01:00:51
on ear today do you think I'm going to get fired no but this like so many celebrity
01:00:57
names with amazing Stories attached to them what are we talking about kissing Dan Carter oh no I don't want to talk
01:01:04
about that poor Dan he'll be embarrassed I did I did kiss him um on the lips not
01:01:08
nothing no tongue it was for charity Grant K saving life about it but I enjoyed it Grant Kama did look here's
01:01:15
the thing just get this book it's called life on the edge you actually can't buy
01:01:19
it in stores anymore but you can probably get an e copy of it online um it's even got pictures in the air maybe
01:01:26
even a couple pictures of me like half node who knows um but some great stories and still this is a good book this one I
01:01:33
must do a sequel but maybe when I have a bit of time in my hands after this what
01:01:37
would the sequel be called you want more yeah but wait there's more like like our friend um Suzanne Paul
01:01:45
holes Paul holes oh God no no don't want to go there okay I I pulled an amazing
01:01:51
legendary prank on Paul Holmes but um and he threatened to sue me for impersonating his uh then girlfriend
01:02:00
look I just I can't I don't want to talk about it because it's just a long story and
01:02:05
also his think girlfriend was um I don't know I don't even want to say her name
01:02:09
cuz she's embarrassed and I I wrote a chapter about it for my book but I ran
01:02:13
it past to her she wasn't she didn't want to be reminded so I pulled the
01:02:18
chapter would you say that's the closest you've got to being fired in your 33
01:02:22
years um when Paul so this is in the late 9 and he was the biggest [ __ ] star in New Zealand and I rang him got
01:02:32
into into got him on the phone yeah and pretended to be his girlfriend um at the time telling him
01:02:41
that I was being harest by media and he look cuz it was in the news I don't want to go into all the details
01:02:48
anyway he thought I was her and he was telling me to uh change Donuts the phone blah blah anyway I hang up from there
01:02:58
and he he hung up thinking that he'd been talking to his girlfriend but he'd
01:03:01
been talking to me I can't believe he fell for it I can't even believe I got
01:03:04
through on the phone but next minute the boss comes in he's like [ __ ] do not
01:03:08
Replay that call and then next minute the newspapers calling and everything and then I get a letter from Paul
01:03:14
Holmes's lawyers saying that I could be imprisoned or finded up to $10,000 for
01:03:22
impersonation uh so it was like oh my God I was terrified cuz it was only like 22 or something but in the end it was
01:03:30
just it was just a it blows up he was he was embarrassed and it was a yeah and he
01:03:33
played so many pranks on people he was so famous for it so in the end he was cool and we you know I met I've met him
01:03:40
so many times and he was fine with it it just at the time was just a bit awkward
01:03:44
yeah and also um your boss at the time Steven Joyce who later went on to be like was he Deputy Prime Minister he was
01:03:49
the the minister of everything um he would have been [ __ ] scared cuz he was just like a start starting his own radio
01:03:56
and Paul holes was the most powerful man in media at the time it's crazy you'd
01:04:00
never do it it's funny you do grow up and there's things that you do back then
01:04:04
that you'd never dream of doing now no but it wasn't I honestly didn't even
01:04:07
think it would happen I didn't think he was going to answer the phone it was
01:04:10
just a joke like let's ring up and pretend to be his girlfriend and oh my God he bloody answered and then oh my
01:04:16
God I had to go through with it I don't even know what she sounded like or anything I just sounded panicked and he
01:04:21
believed it to be her so all my pranks get me in trouble you don't really do pranks any I don't
01:04:30
think you would now like if the co-host said to you hey uh we should do a prank on Mike hosing about this you'd be like
01:04:35
no no no oh no I wouldn't do it now no it's cuz I'm mature now I'm old I'm 50
01:04:40
yeah um what Legacy do you hope to leave behind in the broadcasting world how what would you like people to
01:04:47
say about you or how would you like people to remember your career um I don't know I'm just happy that I've
01:04:55
been able to inspire lots of other broadcasters so many people come to me and say oh you said you know listen to
01:05:00
you and I wrote you a letter and you wrote back to me and to gave me some tips on how to get into radio and blah
01:05:05
blah blah blah just I got into radio because of you like I love that and I just want people to know that I really
01:05:14
do care about the audience and that's all that matters to me that's cool are are you are you
01:05:23
getting emotional no no no no I'm not going to cry your eyes look a little glazy are you are you uh are you proud
01:05:30
of yourself um yeah I suppose yep yep what do you mean that doesn't sound very
01:05:38
convincing um I I'm just tired I don't know like of course of course of course but I just do I just I
01:05:50
just did what I did I just did what I did and I just am me so some of it I is just just a
01:05:57
Flo you know I know some of it's hard work and then some of it's a Flo so I'm
01:06:02
just grateful for the whole experience oh no one thing one thing I've found I've had like a lot of um very different
01:06:09
people on the podcast including a lot of like real high Achievers and one thing I've learned is that um like hard work
01:06:15
is the only check code there is like you can you can say you've had a lot of luck
01:06:19
or whatever but it all comes down to hard work and I think you've worked harder than anyone else no I haven't
01:06:24
worked harder than anyone else but I work hard yeah and I'm just passionate and I just want everyone to enjoy
01:06:32
themselves and have a good time and have fun listening to the radio what what about three words if if people could
01:06:39
have like three words to describe you what would you like those three words to be like honesty
01:06:48
Integrity fun fun generous and authentic fun generous authentic can't disagree with
01:07:06
that you can add funny as well sometimes but people never get JJ's thing was always no one ever gets my
01:07:14
humor if they don't get the humor the problem is you and your jokes not them
01:07:18
Paul Holmes doesn't get my humor all I tend to I just try to be funny and some
01:07:23
people don't get it but I mean what can I do yeah Simon bunny doesn't get my
01:07:28
jokes no no oh Simon I'm sorry yeah hey um congratulations um it's been a hell of a
01:07:37
career as I said at the beginning I'm um I'm really proud of you and I honestly
01:07:41
can't wait to see what you do next cuz um I can't imagine how terrifying it is
01:07:46
for you oh boy Friday's going to be hard that's for sure it was definitely
01:07:51
sinking H home then and I think what's going to happen is I'm going on holiday
01:07:55
3 weeks when I get back I think that's when I'm going to be it's going to hit
01:08:00
me and I'm going to be like [ __ ] what do I do where do I go [ __ ] how am I going to get paid so I
01:08:09
think I think uh it's all fun and games right this minute but maybe talk to me
01:08:13
in a month's time and we'll see uh you might get some tears out of me then see
01:08:18
see where you pop up all right hey congratulations hell of a career the goat the greatest of all time and and
01:08:26
music and music radio at least you are so biased though like no one's going to
01:08:31
take your opinion seriously no it's going to piss a lot of people off Sharon
01:08:35
I'm sorry oh Sharon love him no you're great um enjoy by the time this comes
01:08:43
out most people would have would have heard your final show I guess but enjoy enjoy your last moments on the a maybe
01:08:48
forever maybe just for now yeah thank you so much oh my God I'm try to feel sick now
01:08:56
all right over and out oh no wait peace out [ __ ] [Music]