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Mark Sainsbury's Hilarious Helen Clark Story

June 21, 2026 / 00:48

This episode features discussions on poverty, political debates, and media influence, with a focus on John Key and Helen Clark.

The conversation begins with a reflection on a statement made by John Key regarding the experience of being poor, which resonated with many listeners. He described the feeling of sitting around the table on a Friday night, tallying bills that exceed income.

Helen Clark shares her experience of a debate with John Key, noting the media's portrayal of the event. Despite her belief that the debate went well, she faced criticism from the media, which claimed Key had won.

The episode highlights the challenges politicians face in connecting with everyday issues and the impact of media narratives on public perception.

TLDR

John Key and Helen Clark discuss poverty, political debates, and media narratives.

Episode

0:48
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I remember one of the Bates I said to John Key, "Do you know what it means to be poor?" And he said, "When you're
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sitting around the table on a Friday night adding up the bills and the more than what's coming in,
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>> it's when you're poor." And it just resonated with so many people even though this guy would never be sitting
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around on a Friday night, whatever. But he knew exactly that, that sort of get to the end of the week, [ __ ] we got no
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money sort of thing, all that sort of. And so people really sort of related to him. One of the debates, you know, Clark
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and I remember saying at the end, I hope we think this is a great, oh yes, no, we
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must have more of these. This is this is great. And then she came outside and the
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media basically said that John Key had WON THE DEBATE. OH, IT'S MARK Sainsbury's fault. And she suddenly
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launches into me. I have TO SAY IT NOT five minutes previously how well this had gone and how good it had been. It
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was all my fault. I didn't control it properly.

Episode Highlights

  • Understanding Poverty
    A powerful exchange about the reality of being poor resonates deeply with many.
    “When you're sitting around the table on a Friday night adding up the bills...”
    @ 00m 03s
    June 21, 2026
  • Debate Aftermath
    Post-debate reactions reveal unexpected blame and tension among the participants.
    “It's Mark Sainsbury's fault!”
    @ 00m 34s
    June 21, 2026

Episode Quotes

  • When you're sitting around the table on a Friday night adding up the bills...
    Mark Sainsbury's Hilarious Helen Clark Story
  • It's Mark Sainsbury's fault!
    Mark Sainsbury's Hilarious Helen Clark Story

Key Moments

  • Poverty Reflection00:03
  • Debate Tension00:34