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Maro and Rosa two raw sisters welcome back to my podcast thank you studio so exciting things are obviously doing
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well done thanks oh it's it's like an evolution isn't it it's an evolution not
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not a revolution it's um so you guys have been on the podcast before well sort of of so we're having this
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conversation you didn't want me you just wanted Rosa cuz it was the podcast for
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runners and I wasn't a runner yeah that's right so you came around home this was like 2 years ago yeah um and
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Maro just had a SAT awkwardly in the corner did some social media ring yes um but now we've upgraded we've got a
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studio it's no longer just for runners so Mar you're now welcome thank you
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thank you for including me yeah how are you guys we're great yeah just launched
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our new cookbook so it's just a good feeling to have out it out on the bookshelves now
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H is it a good feeling what's this like number five or number six how many number five it's funny it is a good
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feeling yeah it's but it's also a funny feeling like it's such a long process
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especially this book this has taken us two years to write which has actually been a God and it's been the best thing
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we've ever done in terms of having that time to get creative and actually think
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outside the box and do something a little bit different but yeah there's different moments throughout the book
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process that are really hectic in terms of dead lines to make quite soon after one another and then there's moments
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where you know you don't even touch it for a couple of months cuz it's in
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someone else's hand so yeah there's lots of ups and downs and then you kind of
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forget about it and then all of a sudden it's like [ __ ] it's it's launch day here
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we go it's the first book we're really proud of though oh come on seriously do
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you ever think um it's a term that someone introduced me to called recency bias we never heard of that yeah no
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neither had I but what it means it's the the thing you've been working on most
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recently is the thing that you you you find your favorite and I found this in radio like You' interview ID Sharon or
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someone and you'd say oh what's your what's your favorite song of all time
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and uh he'd always say like the song that was on the radio at that time and you'd sort of roll your eyes going okay
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Lego house is way better than um but it makes sense like for me I find that with
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the podcast it's always the most recent ones that are top of yeah and I suppose
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you evolve over time right you look back at you know we look back at our first book and we're like holy moly do you why
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I don't know it's just probably more or for you you're the design photography
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side like there's photos in there you just can't even look it well and I
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that's that's just part of being a perfectionist and in the creative space
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right if you're not if you don't look back at your old stuff thinking what the
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f is that then you're probably not improving anyway um but yeah no that I don't know there's just something about
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this book I've always wanted something to look a particular way and feel a particular way and this is just
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everything good on you guys I think that's having a growth mindset e like you're always s looking forward to the
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next thing rather than looking back yeah and I think what we've done with this
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book as well being our fifth cookbook too looking back at our other Forum being like what what we loved what did
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we love in those books what went really well what did our audience love what did
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we not like what would we change and then kind of creating our dream book from that yeah it's great how many how
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many copies do you do what do you do of a book um well salad sold about 40,000 wow which is quite a large book in New
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Zealand this one I mean it's only been out for two days so I'm not sure on the exact
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numberb got a bit of pressure are you guys are you guys like the big dogs in the cooking circuit I'd like to think so
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yeah who who does more like does um yeah's nodding your head yeah they are but like are you are you the like the
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top of the the food chain excuse the pun are you you like um bigger than like NAD
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Alman healthy Kelsey are they enemies no they're not our enemies no not at all
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but I enemies I think over yeah definitely being our fifth cook but we've built a really good reputation for
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ourselves and we're going into the bookstores and signing our books meeting the store or seeing the managers again
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the store managers again and they're so excited to have our next book out and
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are saying oh my gosh salad simple fancy they were always flying out the door we're so excited to have your girls back
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out on the Shelf again with your new book so I think yeah definitely everyone's super stoked to have the T or
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sisters new back new fifth cookbook out how how do you how do you make a recipe like especially about salad surely
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everything's been done no yeah a lot of people are like so how many salads can
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you actually come up with um well Marg and I we had with this book again being two we
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had two years to create it we really wanted to focus hard on all the different parts of the book
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from the design from the recipes and we would go away for like a week or so and focus on one part of the book and
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recipes is always following the concept of the book we then follow through with the recipes and how we want the recipes
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to be how we want it section how we want them to be sectioned out in a book and what we did is we literally just spent a
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week of looking at inspiration writing down ideas together brainstorming and then I kind of go away from there and
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create SL ride up draft recipes that we then get in the kitchen and start creating with but I think for us it's
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definitely going in and trying and tasting and well we always try use ingredients we know people have at home
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and once that are cost effective that's our starting point and then we go from
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there with different flavor combinations or Texture combinations yeah but Happ nice work well it's a it's a very very
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pretty book Thank aesthetically pleasing is that a is that a compliment to you yes yes that that is a compliment thank
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you Don all right so manag to catch up on since we saw you guys last which was like two years ago so Ros you got
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married I got married in March this year and I'm pregnant so got knocked up got
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knocked up so when did you get married I got married in March right and you got pregnant almost immediately found out
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the day before the wedding Rose is actually pregnant in the book I'm know I'm actually pregnant on that um on that
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cover there no found out the day before the wedding um and then yeah told ret my
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now husband the day before the wedding as well so it was all quite a lot um to take in he shed his
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pants holy [ __ ] yeah nearly nearly he was already stressing out it's quite funny so like arguably getting
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married was the second biggest commitment he made that that way you can get out of a marriage but you can't get
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out so Roser and ret to just you can't even enjoy one thing you just got to move on to the next
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yeah well just happened let's say um on the honeymoon Rosa was a moody [ __ ] she
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was had hormones flying around we where did you go for your honeymoon we went to
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varo so um I was about 10 weeks pregnant and yeah just the Heat and everything I
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was that not in a great not in a great place but no I'm I'm good now and yeah
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the pregnancy has been pretty good so far and yeah really looking forward to being a mom awesome how did how did you
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announce it to everyone how did how did you find out well actually thanks for bringing it up Dom cuz this is funny
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story thinking I'm Rose's best friend and sister and business partner I uh
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walked into the bathroom the night before her wedding and she was bowling her eyes out and I said oh my God what's
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wrong and she said I'm just really stressed about the wedding I like okay and then that's when she actually found
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out she was pregnant but she didn't tell me one of my bridesmaids was with me so
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I had someone who knew but I wasn't going to tell the other girls well you told us all at your wedding she you
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pulled us up had close family well immediate family and told us so so it was it was very that's quite cool cuz
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the photographer was there so she got all these photos of rer and I telling our family and everyone was like oh my
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God that's so cool why couldn't could could Margo not be trusted with that
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news I don't well to your point around what went through your mind then no well
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two I'm trying to create a rift with two Ro sisters two Dom's point I didn't want
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the wedding to be a second thing behind the announcement that I was pregnant I wanted everyone to enjoy the wedding and
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I rer and I said to ourselves right this is obviously a big thing that's come up
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the day before our wedding let's put that aside for now as best as we can and
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actually just enjoy our day and have a great time and not worry about it so yeah that's BR and we did that so it was
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great and and you um you've got a kickass new name now I power doesn't she
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just isn't it perfect Rosa power it's a badass name that is a badass name I'm
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pretty St to be honest how's that whole process of um like changing your identity well must must be a massive
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ball like yeah I funny you say that I was so it was we had a two we like midyear two we break and I had the time
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to do it and I'd been putting it off and off and it hadn't hadn't been that long
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since we'd got married but I was just sick of being um are you Rosa Flanigan
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or are you Rosa power or I'd say Rosa Flanigan when when I went to an appointment they're like oh you're not
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here like this we've got a rose of power so I was like screw it I'm just going to
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do it and I did but yeah it was a bit of a rigal and like to change your passport
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that's like $300 but I just ended up doing it so I was like I just want to be
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one person get it all done get it all tidy get it all tidy get all tidy yeah exactly so no it wasn't too bad now that
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it's done it's done move on and how about you marot you've been overseas
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recently I have I always been traveling I've been traveling I finally got my
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full week holiday my boss has been a bit of a [ __ ] hasn't hasn't let me gone
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away how how you work that it's funny when you're doing when you're doing your
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own thing your own sort of like side hassle or business or entrepreneurialship or whatever you want
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to call it it is it is hard to get away for a decent amount of time and I think especially with Europe you want to go
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for a decent amount of time um but just getting the business to a point where I could actually step away and not think
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about it and be confident that everything wasn't going to you know hurt the fan but um yeah no I went away first
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time in Europe it was lots of fun make the most of it cuz she'll be probably doing two jobs soon when I've
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got the baby oh yeah do you um yeah when you guys travel do you do you eat like normal tourists or no are you going to
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like a Whole Food Market and is for pine nuts or whatever the whatever you mean travel overseas or yeah like in
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general well no like like when if like if I go to Europe for a month and I'll
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be I'll be eating pizza every night I'll be going to restaurants I'll be I think
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it's a mixture well my part and I we love making food and going to the markets was so much fun and you can buy
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the amazing produce and then go home and make it we found that the restaurants were really expensive and they also did
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quite a lot of the same food which could be quite boring so it was actually really fun to go to the market and then
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come home and make something fresh and yummy and eat it by the beach but we did it we did a bit of both tourist
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absolutely what was your favorite Cuisine though cuz you went to different places yeah we the markets in sicy were
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amazing um and then Berlin was my favorite spot for food lots of Middle Eastern food actually really the big
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like Middle Eastern food what what do you mean like honestly no no I don't I'm
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such a basic b j i i can eat for surv salmon and broccoli as JJ told us before you say that with like such
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disain you say that like it's a do you ever change it up though yeah like after
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a few nights of salmon in a row like I feel like I've reached my like Omega 3
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omega 3 Peak so I'll switch it up and maybe get some lamb chops or oh good on
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you always broccoli pretty much I love broccoli it's a superfood too why are
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you you need to try the seated broccoli in more salad it'll change your life I
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don't love broccoli I don't there so much judgment that is always making its
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way into my trolley too and you um you went them on you did did you get high names today you've been stalking me I
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listen to your podcast um no I didn't actually get high in Amsterdam that's
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everyone's like oh did you go to a coffee shop but it's actually such a small part of Amsterdam the red light
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district and like I mean you know you can smoke weed everywhere else it doesn't just have to be at a coffee shop
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that's you guys are from cbury yeah I think it's decriminalized there already
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isn't it yeah that was the big surprise for me when I went to amam because as a
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New Zealander you think oh you the weed but it's like the the these coffee shops
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um like dotted around but they're very very subtle yeah so much more to it like
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whenever I came back and people ask me that I'll be like no but I had the most
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amazing cheese I've ever had shops that just have like round cheese wheels in the window yeah it was
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such a small part of Amsterdam but loved Amsterdam too yeah but I know the answer
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to this question because as I said I've listened to your your podcast did you go
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to a peep show did I either oh [ __ ] that was so awkward we didn't know what to do
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it's funny I I do this as well you do these podcasts and you talk about stuff
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and you're so sort of unguarded and you don't think that anyone's listen to it
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oh well like well and I we've been seeing each other for like six years so obviously very close well was quite a
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res we just did not know what to do with each other so we're like what is going
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on and she was like coming out about to rub her boobs in the window we're like
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no no no we're out we're out so yes so so so set the scene are you and well
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your your partner in a booth yes so you okay so you pay at the door and you go into like your own no so you open the
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door and the glass is black and then you put A2 coin in and it like clears up so
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you can see through and but you can see everyone in all the other booths as well so there are like real seedy
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looking guys actually enjoying themselves and then there are other people like us who are like what what's
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going on what if we just put ourselves into yeah but then you feel sorry for the girl in the middle cuz I'm like she
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looks like she's having a horrible time but they get like they obvious they get
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well don't they I don't know do they get the two the the Euro the Euro like the
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two that you put in the hope I don't know but what was she do was she was she
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dancing or like playing with herself or um well we cuz our we were with friends and they went in and we were still
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waiting but there was a new girl that came when we went in so she was fully well she was in like a bikini but their
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one was fully undressed and like playing with herself but ours was just warming up yeah being on the window I'm not
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paying for the warm up yeah I want the real thing this is2 that's like four New
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Zealand Dollars oh she was already she was just warming up and will maro's partner was saying no no no was too
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far yeah when I went there we went to we went to like a live sex show um there was like like a Cory bus of people that
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came in and there's couple get on stage and it was more funny than anything else
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like as soon as the guy removed his pants and he had like a semi bone like everyone just like sniggering yeah it's
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so awkward yeah awward but like laughing and like so um yes since you're last on the
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podcast yeah there's the the the marriage and the pregnancy and the travel um what else an app an app yeah
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an app holy [ __ ] where do you where do you where do you start with an app um question oh it's a long process yes you
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need money that's what you need is that can you not get like some Kat on fiver
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to make it for you no is it I mean well you can get them made pretty in like India or something but they're
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all ours needed to be a custom platform whereas a lot of those are team plates and code is such difficult almost like
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another language that if you aren't if your developer is not English as in doesn't speak English fluently it's very
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difficult what does the app cost like 50k 30k double that really and the rest there's the the setup but then all
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of the main maintenance development on top of that is well we we launched without a search bar God don't launch
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net without a search bar you'll hear about it and it was like 15K to put a search bar in you know people people
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make these things that oh can you do this or do that and I'm like yeah have you got an extra 30 to 40K for that so
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it is it is expensive but um if you get good numbers on there it's good so people subscribe and they pay you like
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how much okay uh we've got we're just about to change our subscriptions actually but we're about 17 a month
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right yeah so we've got Le than coffee a week weekly monthly yearly depending on
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where depending on where you go yeah yeah yeah coffee sweet but it's a cool it's awesome cuz we can like we have
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full control of uploading all of the recipes doing all the tags so we upload three new recipes a week so 12 a month
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essentially and they're all related to the season what feedback we're getting
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from our subscribers what's going well on Instagram socials it's a very interesting process though as cuz we're
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like the user interface user experience is obviously a whole another world that we've dived into but even like the
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simple change of a button I was talking to someone they Chang their button from red to blue and it decreased their
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subscriptions by 40% H so just like little things like that you've got to take everything into
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consider so how do you how do you guys make most of your money like is it is it the books
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is it the is it the the app yeah and and the live shows you do pretty well out of
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the live shows yeah I suppose all these income streams sort of add up yeah we kind of we've definitely narrowed down
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what we're doing within the business and our main revenue streams uh number one
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app probably well cookbooks uh high like when it's around launch date and like
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Christmas and all those types of big events um that definitely comes up second or workshops again depending on
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what we're doing we do a workshop a month in Christ church and then we do two New Zealand tours a year well you
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would know this from going from Radio to podcast like the app for us it's we can
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do it from anywhere it's a lot less work than traveling around the country four
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times a year doing tours so it's like we've created the business to work
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around us and the lifestyles we want to live and that's where the why we want to
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focus on the app because we can do it from anywhere and we can reach as many people as we possibly want Global you
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can scale it up right um yeah and big changes coming up yeah so you've got a
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baby coming up a bab coming and you're moving to Melbourne next year yeah if
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you read the women's day article yesterday I'm not very happy about it um did you have that written down
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there no no what was that was that that you hated each other no it was there was
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there was an AR that was the other one there was an article that came out yester one yesterday and it said you
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know how they have the we ctions for the photos talk [ __ ] about everything and
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there's a photo of Margo and it's said in the we caption Rose is not very happy
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about Margo moving to Melvin so please don't bring it up it's a really touchy subject love B
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CLI God the truth is Rosa is so busy with her own pregnan in her own life she she doesn't give a [ __ ]
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[ __ ] yeah all right so let's let's go back to the um the early Flanigan years
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so um who else is in the family there's you two are you the two siblings or we
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got a brother Matt he is 30 30 29 29 okay so so he's the oldest and then there's me you're in the middle you're
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the baby of the family and age Gap with you guys two years right so we're all
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two years apart right my brother and I are two years Mel and I are two years awesome and and growing up were you guys
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tired I know that we'll get to the phase where you hated each other um yeah yeah
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we used to I used to force Margaret to hop in the pram and I'd car around everywhere Rosa um yeah Rosa loved
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playing teachers and I was the student I always wanted to be a teacher when I gr
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up grow up um but yeah no we got on when we were kids and with our brother as well Matt and then I think it was more
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that like teenager you know period and puberty going through puberty and we just kind
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of clashed a little bit so embarrassing like what age like high school age 15 13 you went through your running stuff
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and you became like a different person and you didn't really you weren't you weren't really
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aware of whatever was going on cuz you were so focused on your running so that was kind of the point where we kind of
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drifted apart I would say in different interests as well Margot was a brand Basher back then I was a big what brands
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were you bashing Walker of course really did you have a run away G nichlas yeah I
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didn't you didn't everything else though she had yeah no I was a big partyer actually
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early were you yeah like what just like you know snuck drinks from Mom and Dad's
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you know the the classic drink the gin and fill it up with water that old Chesnut um yeah no and then I got
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chronic fatigue and then I wasn't yeah yeah cuz you guys both had um um and this is sort of and and it's funny how
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things work okay so you drift apart then you have these issues and they sort of bring you back together and it's like
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the birth of the the business which we'll get to um you so um Rosa you were like a 3,000 M steeple chasun first of
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all why that event that's the most random event ever like eight what it seven eight laps of seven and a seven
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and 3/4 or something right and you're jumping over some hurdles and there's
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that hurdle where you have to jump in the water on an angle what a TR to that event well I
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love the only reason why I did it was because well my coach recommended I did it I loved cross country that was my
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favorite event 10K cross country and then I found track really boring but I a big goal of mine was to get to the
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Olympics and my coach said well the closest event to something like cross country would be your seil Chase the
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3,000 M steeple chair so that's when I started doing that and I kind of did a
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few races and ended up breaking a few records and saw a bit of a future in it and
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that's where we the path we LED down I did do a few 5Ks but I just found them
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boring just running round and around a track for 12 and a half laps yeah 12 and a half laps whereas at least the steeple
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chase there was a little bit of something different just a little bit few the next
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I get to get my feet wet yeah yeah but like it's it's pretty it was actually a
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really new nve rcking event because of the Ste of the hurdles and like when you get to the world stage you're in a group
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of 15 odd girls and trying to jump a hurdle with 15 people crowded around you and like being in New Zealand we'd have
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five people maps in a national race so it was very easy to you know escape from them and clearly clear the hurdle but
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when it comes to a yeah International Event it's a whole different story M yeah so how did that dream
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end pretty sadly no I well I did I qualified for the coms and then I got injured I I was just
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really getting down the dumps with my injuries and I wasn't looking after my
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body very well I had a got well I got diagnosed with a condition called red s which stands for relative energy
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deficiency in sport so pretty much yeah on the verge of osteoporosis didn't my
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period until I was 21 really low energy availability so I all I had was the energy to do my training and come home
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and nothing else really mattered to me and I found myself in a really dark spot and for me I didn't really know anything
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else and I suppose I was just s I'm such a determined person and I really wanted
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to keep going forward and I didn't want to share what I was feeling to other
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people cuz I didn't want to feel like I was a failure especially to atics New
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Zealand when it where it's so Cutthroat and you have to make qualifying times
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and if you don't meet those then you get dropped and you don't see you know
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you're not seen as a success story um so yeah I injuries pretty much got me and I
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was forced to rest and then that rest then forces you to really think about [ __ ] what am I actually doing with my
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life and is this worthwhile and then from the health professionals telling me if I don't do anything about you know my
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situation now and actually recover then it's going to present you with lots of short and long-term Health
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consequences that you're going to be facing so yeah I don't know what actually hit me to make a change and to
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just call it quits but for me I had to get out of there if I was quit not I don't want to call it quitting but if I
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was retiring from being a full-time athlete I for me I'm a person who I just
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have to get out of there and do it all on like I'm An All or Nothing type of
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person so I just yeah pretty much said to my coach I'm stopping and say goodbye
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to everyone at high performance sport New Zealand and the Athletics New Zealand area and yeah left and never
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went back I can't imagine how how tough a decision that was cuz it's like your
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identity right yeah and that was what I've really struggled with is I've
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always been known as Ros of the runner and oh like when's your next race and
00:26:23
what are you training for what are you training for and obviously that was my that was my daily routine was getting up
00:26:28
and going to the gym and then going home and then going back to training in the afternoon it was just all I knew and
00:26:34
because I was so obsessed around it all that was my life and that's all I focused on and all of a sudden that was
00:26:41
taken away from me and it was Finding what that other thing was that fueled me and gave me that
00:26:49
satisfaction and that motivation to get up every day and I suppose I was lucky in the fact that I had two raw sisters
00:26:56
because that gave me a new purpose and in life and I was able to use my learnings from being an athlete and
00:27:03
where I'd come from with that and flip it into a more positive you know perspective and help educate other
00:27:09
people and definitely talking about my journey through lots of different talks and interviews helped me recover and
00:27:18
helped me realize how far I'd actually come and that what I did well the decision I made was a good decision for
00:27:24
me personally not and I wasn't doing it for anyone else I was doing it for me as
00:27:29
an individual and for my future so that was definitely a um big part of me overcoming that fear and anxiety around
00:27:37
who am I and what's my purpose in life and yeah now I wouldn't have yeah I'm
00:27:44
glad I've I made the decision that I made and I love what I do now helping educate other people on yeah being
00:27:53
feeling great and using good quality ingredients how good yeah yeah and I mean there's no way of knowing for sure
00:27:59
but um had you keep going down that track like maybe you wouldn't be fit enough to carry a baby exactly and
00:28:05
that's like my doctor my GP when I went and saw her and said I'm I'm pregnant
00:28:11
she was like oh my go like she was so stoked for me cuz that was not something that she ever thought would be possible
00:28:20
or she knew well in her head she thought that I would have based off my medical um history that I would
00:28:28
definitely be struggling yet it happened the first time around so yeah I was super super lucky and again like being
00:28:35
pregnants really made me realize the importance of looking after your body and for so long I just neglected it and
00:28:43
that's another message to put out there to young female athletes and non-athletes too is to you know not
00:28:50
compare yourself and not think about skinny being the new healthy way to be it's about fueling your body if you do
00:28:59
want to have kids in the near future or in the later future because that's essentially you know our bodies are made
00:29:06
to do that and it's looking after them how was your mental health around this
00:29:10
time was this was this would you call this like the rock bottom of your life yeah definitely yeah I've really
00:29:16
struggled um mentally I suffered really um from anxiety really bad just around um
00:29:24
not being that athlete and me seeing myself as a failure and not got following through with my dreams and my
00:29:34
goals you had this big go yeah yeah and then also seeing like I remember it was the was it the 2016 Rio Olympics that I
00:29:41
was supposed to be going to and I just couldn't watch any of it because I just
00:29:47
saw all the people I knew they were in the Athletics team and I it just hurt really bad and just even like Dad was
00:29:55
always really into me racing and always came to the events and things and he would always bring it up like oh did you
00:30:02
see so and so ran this or have you ever thought about it again I was just like to him dad just don't even bring
00:30:08
anything to do with running out right now like it's just I'm just not in that
00:30:12
mindset yet to go back to that so I yeah pretty much shut it all off for about 3
00:30:17
4 years and then I just needed that time really and for me as well I just needed
00:30:24
to figure out what my purpose was going back to me yeah it's hard isn't it and
00:30:30
and the thing thing about your dad um like sure must surely it came from a place of love like he was uh he was
00:30:37
soing yeah yeah he was so passionate about and he was probably just checking in on me yeah and making sure I was okay
00:30:45
but in a way that probably wasn't the best for me mentally like it wasn't
00:30:51
something he was purposefully doing um but I'm fine talking about it now and
00:30:56
it's feels like ages go and I love watching like the Olympics that have just been like it was so great watching
00:31:02
it again but it was like the first time that I'd actually felt okay with no I've
00:31:07
made the right decision I love watching the rest of the kiwis perform really well and see them succeed in their own
00:31:16
um events yeah do you think um I'm probably projecting here how I would be in that position but do you think it's
00:31:23
so yeah it was two 2016 Olympics that you were aiming for so it's been two Olympics
00:31:29
um this brand that you guys have got going now is doing so phomen well you think you're finally at peace with it
00:31:33
now because you've you know you found your purpose and you're succeeding in
00:31:36
kicking ass yeah and that's where I've been so lucky cuz a lot of athletes
00:31:40
don't have that to fall on to like they're trying to find their new purpose
00:31:45
which I was for a little bit just being a bit stuck in where I was at and not having got to where I wanted to go with
00:31:53
my running but again super lucky to have had two or sisters to step straight into
00:31:58
much and be able to succeed but also take some learnings from my Athletics career into my new business career being
00:32:07
a Tor sister with Margo although I just want to correct you there like you didn't have this thing to like fall into
00:32:13
this is something else that you created yeah and but it was a it was a focus I suppose okay like a diversion of your
00:32:19
attention yeah one one thing I found with um like majority of like high performance people I have on the podcast
00:32:25
uh it's the same sort of thing like they're good at one thing or defined by
00:32:28
one thing and they worry you know what's going to happen after that but if you're
00:32:32
if you're good at one thing you generally have the mindset to make you good at whatever else you decide to do
00:32:37
and I suppose it's that um initially it's that unknowing of oh this is all
00:32:41
new all I've know I've known that for the last however long you've been an
00:32:45
athlete for um and now you're stepping into a whole new lifestyle and routine
00:32:50
like this routine of being a business owner is so different to what it was to be a full-time athlete but then the mind
00:32:57
set is very similar though yeah like you've got to be disciplined you've got
00:33:01
to be determined you have got to sacrifice things at times the same as skill here that's why you are such a great
00:33:10
entrepreneur because you have you've naturally got that mindset but it's
00:33:15
funny like those obsessive traits that came from my running I definitely found came into my business career as well and
00:33:26
having to again acknowledge those and have a tool have tools in your tool box to be able to step away from it and not
00:33:33
think about it 24/7 like there's still been challenges around that you know anxiety and the the thoughts that pop
00:33:41
through your head but I suppose for me what I appreciate well what I'm happy to
00:33:47
be able to do now is acknowledge those thoughts and when they do come through my head I have those tools to pull them
00:33:53
away or to acknowledge that they've come through and then move on so yeah where where did you get that
00:33:59
skill from is that therapy or a podcast or a book yeah I had a really good psychologist that I worked with um with
00:34:07
within um Athletics New Zealand um and also I don't know I just love again listening to other people and like
00:34:15
podcasts like they're always super helpful reading but also just learning and experience and yeah yeah oh thanks
00:34:23
for sharing that Mar I just about forgot you were here no you know told hear you
00:34:28
talk about that I haven't heard yeah yeah how do you feel when you hear that
00:34:32
because I'm guessing when this was going on this is when you guys were at like
00:34:35
Peak sort of estrangement yeah the lack of a better word very Peak so you were both living just very very independent
00:34:42
lives yeah well I think I was going through my own stuff at that time so I I I think you seeing you go through
00:34:51
that has definitely carved my like I'm I'm a very emot person or I take other people's feelings on really
00:35:01
heavily and I feel like now that I've while I when I was going through my chronic fatigue and all that stuff you
00:35:08
were going through your rock bottom so now hearing it and I know I've heard it
00:35:12
so many times but you know hearing it again that's when I get that sense of like oh [ __ ] like you were going through
00:35:18
all of that but you you never like expressed it to any of us it was really you sort of bottled it up yeah well I
00:35:24
thought these are my problems Rosa and the is something you've definitely improved on but you no no no but you you
00:35:32
you always bottled everything up like Ros is like Dad you never really talk about it whereas now you're much better
00:35:39
at doing that or you've you've dealt with it so now you benefits of when you
00:35:45
do talk about it to someone else and share your thoughts and feelings how much better it can be
00:35:51
everyone can relate to a story and I think that's what we love so much about
00:35:55
sharing our stories is with you relate to all of what Rosa just said or just a tiny little bit you know you can take
00:36:03
something from there yeah 100% God your poor parents at this time they must have
00:36:07
been like what the [ __ ] is going on was your brother all right as far as we know
00:36:12
he was all good maybe that's why he gets looked after more than us he caused them the
00:36:18
least trouble wow um yes so what about you Ro so you went overseas on like a like a World Vision trip or something
00:36:23
Maro sorry sorry Mar so yeah where where were you you were overseas somewhere I was in Costa
00:36:32
Rica in Nicaragua on a um yeah World Challenge so we went over there for 4 weeks and we
00:36:38
taught kids um in the classrooms and then our big project was giving the village a 24-hour supply of water when
00:36:46
they only had 1 hour a day so that was the big purpose of that trip which I loved so much I love doing things like
00:36:53
that and I'd really hope I can do another trip like that but um when I was away I vividly remember there was like
00:37:02
No Mirrors or anything cuz we were in the middle of nowhere and I looked on the last day we were in this like
00:37:08
Backpackers and there was a mirror and I looked at myself and I was like what the
00:37:12
[ __ ] like I have lost so much weight like what is going on and I didn't really think anything of it and then I
00:37:18
got home and I'd never recovered from my jet lag but at the time Rosa was you were
00:37:25
training heaps and that this is where we had this rivalry of oh well Rose is doing that so I have to do that and I
00:37:31
was always known as the runner's sister and not Margot and so I was training
00:37:37
with Rosa but I'm not a very competitive person so I wasn't competing so I was
00:37:41
just smashing my body even though I was just like so exhausted and so run down but no one really knew what was going on
00:37:51
had all these tests cuz Mom and Dad were worried but everything came back normal
00:37:55
and then in my head I was like well nothing wrong like you're fine keep training keep going to school keep doing
00:38:00
all of this and it um I had a really bad panic attack one day and dad was like no
00:38:08
we're taking you to the hospital and was in the hospital and then everything came
00:38:13
back normal again I was like what the [ __ ] is going on like I'm just in my
00:38:18
head I was like I'm going crazy like you know what is going on and I don't know
00:38:24
how we came across the specialist but mom found this specialist and we finally walked out with a diagnosis which was
00:38:31
chronic fatigue syndrome and it all you know when you find something out and then all of a sudden you just crash
00:38:37
because you've been holding this front for so long and then I just had this absolute crash and I was pretty much
00:38:46
bedridden for a year and a half at what age I was 16 so I was heading into year 12 so I had all of year 12 off school
00:38:56
and then I had half of your 13 and then I went back parttime so when what do you mean bed R
00:39:04
so I would walk 50 m and just be absolutely wiped out for the rest of the day i' yeah I'd sleep pretty much like
00:39:13
18 hours a day my immune system was completely shot so my body this was also part of it when we were trying to figure
00:39:22
out what was wrong my whole face just like swelled up and I had this rash all over my face and mom was like I can't
00:39:29
even recognize you like what there's something going on and so yeah my immune
00:39:35
system was just completely shot and my body was just screaming for just rest really but you were getting rest yeah I
00:39:44
know you get too much rest that's the hard thing I had five years of health professionals here telling me there was
00:39:50
nothing I could do like there's not really any treatment for chronic fatigue it's
00:39:55
arrest and get over it situation and it's very like an invisible thing because on
00:40:00
the outside you look fine but on the inside you're not and with all my friends like I just fell off the face of
00:40:10
the Earth because year 12 that's your party years and year 13 is really fun you're moving to UNI but I just couldn't
00:40:17
do any of that and a lot of my friends didn't understand and I didn't talk
00:40:21
about it because I think I was quite self-conscious about it cuz there was I didn't I didn't have the energy to do
00:40:29
anything but then they were all like oh where's Margo like bch she's just gone
00:40:35
like she's so boring yeah well I suppose if people like ask you out or invite you
00:40:38
to things you know after a certain amount of times where you're a nosh show I suppose they just they stop and I
00:40:44
don't know I suppose as you get older like the ages you guys are now you're
00:40:47
more sort of understanding and accepting but at that age it's like just later out
00:40:51
our mind I guess and at that age again as like me you're not necessarily being
00:40:56
like Oh hey like can I pull you aside and can we just have a chat and can I tell you how I'm feeling right now and
00:41:02
what I'm going through whereas now like I wouldn't even I would do that to any
00:41:05
friend I'd call a friend up and be like oh [ __ ] I've had a terrible day today
00:41:10
this is what's happened this is how I'm feeling I just wanted to ring you up and
00:41:14
share it with someone let it out yeah so I I filtered through my friends quite early
00:41:20
on no no yeah you're a bit you're a [ __ ] see it you're great you can say
00:41:27
that must have been such a such a depressing time for you were you just like were you just lying in bed like
00:41:32
crying every other day or were you just too tired the body aches and like the brain fog and everything like I
00:41:39
literally could not do anything and a way people well I can describe it so people can understand as
00:41:49
like um covid when everyone was just complaining of all the body aches and the tiredness and the side effects that
00:41:56
came with with it that's like chronic fatigue but 10 times worse 24/7 and even it's interesting you being
00:42:03
pregnant obviously I've never been pregnant but I don't know but extreme
00:42:06
tiredness and that was also the other really hard thing cuz everyone you talked to was like I'm tired I'm sore
00:42:14
but like so when you said oh I'm got chronic fatigue it's extreme tiredness
00:42:17
you're like oh yeah I totally get that I'm so tired I'm tired too it's like so
00:42:23
different and I think I got to that point where I was like well I'm just not
00:42:25
even going to bother because you guys aren't understanding me and it wasn't really much of a thing
00:42:32
either no and I I remember the classic drct Google just Googling when I got diagnosed how long does chronic fatigue
00:42:39
last for and these people saying I've still got it it's 10 years later I've
00:42:43
had it for a lifetime and I was just thinking like oh my god what have I got but it's just as I've learned like
00:42:53
managing it gut health was a huge thing for me as well M yeah yeah i' I've heard that I've
00:43:00
heard you say that in in an interview that um you know hear hearing the phrase gut health was like a turning point for
00:43:05
you yeah so was that um do you think you ate your way out of chronic fatigue or do you think it just ran its course or
00:43:11
no I definitely think I've turned it around like if I hadn't been through
00:43:17
what I've been through I would definitely not be where I am today um when Rose and I went over to the states
00:43:24
it was like a right person right time thing which always happens at the weirdest of times I think you've just
00:43:31
got to be aware and open to it and she was working she was your Physio and she was working on me cuz my body aches were
00:43:40
just so bad that I couldn't really do anything and we were just chatting and
00:43:44
she said oh have you read this book called The Body ecology diet and I was like no I haven't and she said oh it's
00:43:50
all about gut health and resetting your gut and she kind of talked to me about that and how the gut is the of every
00:43:57
process that goes on within the body and anyway I read this book and it talked about a fungal overgrowth within your
00:44:04
stomach and it kind of related directly back to chronic fatigue so I did a lot of research around that and kind of self
00:44:11
diagnosed myself I suppose with a fungal overgrowth in my stomach and I did this I followed the diet on
00:44:19
this course and I always say I hate promoting diets cuz I'm not a diet person but this is I see this as a form
00:44:26
of medical treatment as a way to get better not to lose weight and I did this massive gut reset
00:44:33
and within 3 weeks my chronic fatigue had pretty much disappeared three months sorry and that was like mindblowing for
00:44:41
me CU I'd had five years of health professionals telling me there was nothing I could do and there was no cure
00:44:47
for chronic fatigue but yeah it blew my mind that it wasn't expensive specialist
00:44:52
and supplements it was just focusing on cheap everyday ingredients and focusing on gut health and that's when I got my
00:44:59
passion for food cuz I've never been into food Rose has always been the massive foodie but that was when you had
00:45:05
your big epiphany of like what am I doing I'm I'm running my body to the
00:45:10
ground and then I was in this head space being like what the [ __ ] plants are like
00:45:15
crazy how has my gut just reset and then I'm so much better again and then that's
00:45:21
when we were like well let's create a business that puts plants first and helps people with their overall health
00:45:29
and well-being because we don't talk about gut health and facts and things like that because I think it's
00:45:34
overwhelming for people and people don't know where to start food has become so
00:45:39
complicated whereas we want to make it simple and make people not get to the bottom of the hill with the ambulance
00:45:45
like we did we want everyone to have good health and make food exciting I think with well-being a lot of people
00:45:53
look at like mindfulness and exercise and there's lots of different aspects of
00:46:00
well-being but if we're not fueling our bodies with good food how do we expect
00:46:03
to perform well in any of those things how do we expect to perform an exercise work Family Life personality energy
00:46:11
levels if we're not the the thing when're putting in our mouths what's
00:46:15
fueling our bodies to function isn't the right form yeah it does make so much sense but
00:46:22
like KFC it feels really good at the time of eating it in moderation I'm all for that it's fine
00:46:29
to have it sometimes yeah so um okay so is this s of how two worldw sisters were
00:46:34
born pretty much yeah was it you basically Margot was it your sort of idea did you did you patch it to Rosa or
00:46:42
how did you I had just finished school and Rosa you had was on my way out you were on your way out with running and it
00:46:51
just kind of naturally happened everything within T sisters has just naturally started with social media page
00:46:58
like an Instagram page yeah we were like let's just put some food on here and and
00:47:02
then it kind of got to a point where it was like well you finished school do we start this is a full-time gig because I
00:47:08
was studying nutrition at the time part well part-time I was studying and yeah we did that and then it's just kind of
00:47:16
all taken off from there it's quite courageous I to think that you could do it as a I mean it be
00:47:22
easy to set anyone can set up an Instagram and do it as a side Hustle but to to put all your eggs in that basket
00:47:28
yeah and it's pretty cool like we're I suppose we don't think back about it too
00:47:34
much but you create this brand from nothing and look where we are six years later with it but the journey to get
00:47:43
there has there's been so many different things that have happened and come up
00:47:47
and things we've tried and have been a total disaster and things other things
00:47:52
that we've tried that have been an absolute success so yeah I suppose that's it I trial in ER yeah we started
00:47:59
doing workshops and I think everyone enjoyed our refreshing approach to food which when we started what we did was
00:48:07
very Niche now it's very mainstream in terms of let's make plants the star
00:48:13
rather than the side and let's make me the side rather than rather than the star so yeah and I think with Co
00:48:21
everyone has become more health conscious and now it's the cost of loving you are expensive and I's that Gap in
00:48:31
the market on the ucce on what to do with seasonal produce rather than going for that convenient accessible option
00:48:39
which is highly processed and leaves us feeling like crap yeah no it definitely does so you
00:48:47
guys decide to do this thing together this collaboration um after years of basically being like a strange sisters
00:48:55
um then you tell your parents and what do they say at the start they were like oh not
00:49:01
too sure about this especially after what we just put them through yeah you not starting a
00:49:07
business yeah actually yeah how like how how bad was it was it did did you hate each other or no we just beered a lot
00:49:14
like we we we weren't we were better when we got through what we've just
00:49:19
talked about I think we as Margo said we were just clashing we compared ourselves so much to the point point
00:49:26
where we couldn't bear to be around each other because mentally we both couldn't
00:49:31
deal with it no but yeah they weren't too sure they were thinking oh gosh we've just been through all of this with
00:49:38
both of them the last three years or so yeah going to bring yeah we're finally
00:49:45
getting somewhere but um no they're super proud of us and they love moms are
00:49:50
huge well and Dad Dad actually gets spotted as the two orw sisters dad he was at the physio the other day and they
00:49:57
he got asked are you the two orw sisters dad and he just y he just can't deal
00:50:03
with it oh that's adorable God he must be so proud though right yeah yeah he's
00:50:08
good and yeah mom's mom's always got the books lined up on her kitchen bench and
00:50:13
telling people if you got the app you need the app it's really good I just made these overnight oats last night
00:50:19
they're delicious so the the the first when you decide okay right we're all in
00:50:23
we're going to do this what's that first year like do you make any money in the
00:50:26
fut this year oh no no we made we we were part-time for maybe 2 years and then we decided to we thought
00:50:36
right we want to do a cooking school we're going to build a kitchen in town and then that's when we got signed
00:50:43
for our first cookbook as well so we launched our kitchen and cookbook on the same day in 2018 in October and then
00:50:53
that's when we went fulltime and that's when we were like yeah we're going to do
00:50:56
do this thing and obviously the business has changed and we don't have a cooking
00:51:00
school but that's all part of business and learning it's evolving and lots of
00:51:06
fights early on like you must have guarded each other's throats just figuring out how to work together I
00:51:11
think defining roles or yeah defining roles was huge for us um and I think we it took a while for us to actually
00:51:19
figure out first off what what were we doing within the business like what do we both love um and then from there
00:51:28
what's our why what's our why how can we work together what are your strengths
00:51:33
what are my weaknesses where do you want to hit hit or be in five years time and
00:51:38
same with me because obviously when you're working together you you've got
00:51:41
to both be on the same pathway and have the same ideas and the same vision yeah you got to be rowing in the same
00:51:47
direction right yeah exactly otherwise it just doesn't work so yeah it took us
00:51:51
quite a while to figure that out probably good like we we say like literally probably within the last last
00:51:56
year eight months we've really happy with where we're at in the business and
00:52:02
how the business is functioning on a day-to-day basis what our why is how we're being portrayed to our audiences
00:52:10
and what the business is consisting of being our cookbooks our app and our workshops it's taken us five years to
00:52:16
get to this point well you yeah you mentioned before when you started how you thought where will we be in 3 years
00:52:22
5 years time are you where you no no oh my God imagined where you are now no bigger than what you imagined yeah and
00:52:30
but also different like the app Tech side of things online but also like I Our Lives now we couldn't really
00:52:40
predict those five years ago we didn't know where the hell we were going to be
00:52:44
um but I think that's the cool thing and what we've probably prided ourselves in
00:52:48
obviously there's a bit of planning involved but we haven't been like huge
00:52:53
planners like business planners right this is the time Line This Is Where we've got to be here and then we've got
00:52:59
to be here well there yeah there has been plans but I think the key to entrepreneurship is being fluid with
00:53:06
those movements with whatever happens like if an opportunity comes up well and we feel great about it we'll take it and
00:53:13
that may sway the business completely but you know it's all about trialing something and if that doesn't work then
00:53:21
cool fail fast move on to the next thing and there's those events like Co that
00:53:27
can change things and I think what we've been knowing for and we've had a lot of
00:53:32
people say like I love watching you because your business and youah are just so adaptable and you'll go with what
00:53:40
people are needing and what people are wanting at that particular time and same with now with the cost of living like
00:53:45
it's a big Hot Topic at the moment and our we always are sitting down and being
00:53:50
like right how can we help our audience how can we give them resources to get them through how can we solve the
00:53:56
problem particular situation yeah solving the problem yeah how was Co for you guys was it good or bad or neutral
00:54:01
we actually launched our web app the first day of Co and it was great and that was the beginning of the app
00:54:07
journey I supp people never had more time to cook I know yeah amaz so was actually fine yeah good okay well it's
00:54:16
um yeah what you're saying I can I can sort of resonate because that's what I
00:54:18
found with um this podcast JY the last couple of years and uh you you can plan all all you want and have all the goals
00:54:24
you want um but I find as long as you just like keep taking steps in the right direction every day you'll just be
00:54:30
surprised at you know what doors appear and what doors open that you never imagine yeah and you don't know unless
00:54:35
you try as well and as I said some things we've done and we're like oh that
00:54:39
was such a terrible idea you know but then also we wouldn't have known that that was such a terrible idea if we
00:54:46
didn't go down that pathway and you also learn from those experience too so yeah
00:54:52
it's it's fun we love it I'd get bored if I just sat in an office all day and
00:54:57
told what I had to do every single day you'd be so much less stressed I could
00:55:00
deal with it yeah I know sometimes I'm like you go through phes that would be
00:55:04
quite ideal right now why don't I just have a salary 9 I can get a maternity
00:55:08
leave package yeah imagine that a job where you get to work from home two days a week and we all know that means doing
00:55:14
[ __ ] all yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so um so so thinking big um like 5 years from
00:55:20
now like where would you like to be if you think it's funny how I mean the whole landscape is changing so quickly
00:55:28
so you 20 years ago I suppose the aspiration for you guys would be to have like your own TV show but TV's not
00:55:33
really even a thing anymore I think like yeah moving forward the app is definitely the big thing in growing that
00:55:39
internationally so um got a few more books on the pipeline as well yeah but the app's kind of the main focus yeah
00:55:47
I'm moving to Melbourne next year to grow the Australian audience so just growing the like we're know in New
00:55:53
Zealand but now it's the next stage of growing it Australia wide and then globally is kind of the goal and just
00:56:00
trying to touch people like that's a big reason why we started the podcast as
00:56:04
well trying to touch lots lots of people at lots of different points to get them
00:56:10
down what we call the sales funnel to get them into the app to pay for a subscription that sounds so it
00:56:20
ising well you're want we nurture you guys but to the point you're down the
00:56:26
same you're up here and then we want to get you down there so it's how we can do
00:56:30
that it's a strategy they they want you guys to be healthy but they also want
00:56:35
your money that's just that's business though right yeah it is it is and that's
00:56:39
a strategy that we work off but as margar said is how we can reach as many people as possible educate as many
00:56:46
people as possible and I think we've got a really good base now that we said
00:56:50
we're super stoked with being our app our cookbooks our podcasts our social platforms and our work shs that we can
00:56:57
leverage and touch and hopefully help lots of people good for you guys it seems like life's going well and M you
00:57:03
you're moving to Melbourne with your partner will yes he's moving yes right
00:57:08
is he still doing music he is he was in the we we talked about this last time he's in that b no mama you get in my
00:57:15
head over my head time that's not what is it all this time I spent with you you had no clue I
00:57:25
was right behind you oh my you get in my head that's um that's an old song he was
00:57:32
young right he was he still in school when he to song yes they were yeah I think they were year
00:57:37
12 Mar was sitting in the SE bling like [ __ ] he's she couldn't contain herself like
00:57:45
School buddies no they came and played at the school oh right and she couldn't
00:57:49
contain herself no that's not true oh you dragged yourself out a bit that day
00:57:53
didn't you don't the qu not missing NAD well played well played strategic so
00:58:04
what's he doing now is he still doing Goodwill his own y Goodwill and then um
00:58:09
he does music producing that's kind of his main thing produces music for artists and then yeah Goodwill on the
00:58:15
side yeah so so what what's he planning on doing in Melvin um he's planning on
00:58:20
expanding his producing career I think New Zealand's not really his target market so moving to Melbourne will be
00:58:28
good for that with music it's either Melbourne or LA but America's just obviously such a difficult place to live
00:58:34
and whatever so um yeah Melbourne's close for us at work and yeah it's it'll
00:58:40
be good for will so I'm excited it's cool is he's excited too yeah he's
00:58:45
really excited we've been wanting to do it for ages but with work hasn't really
00:58:50
worked no well it has been you wouldn't buddy let me leave if I left but not anymore yeah oh it
00:59:00
seems like you guys have got so much on why did you decide to launch the podcast
00:59:03
this year well this has been a thing we've been wanting to do for so many years but we haven't done it and we just
00:59:10
said [ __ ] it let's do it we set ourselves a date we're doing our first
00:59:14
pod releasing our first podcast on this day and we did it so what's what's the
00:59:19
it it's great like I listened to a few episodes um over the last few days knowing that you you got any good
00:59:25
feedback for us any constructive feedback oh no I think it's I didn't know what to expect I I wondered if it
00:59:29
was um going to be like an educational thing or about gut health but it's um
00:59:34
like more of a a peek into into you know Mar Rosa you guys are as people so just
00:59:39
strengthens that um connection with your audience yeah exactly um so no we love we love the podcast it's kind of a
00:59:46
chance for us to CU we live in different places now like I'm two hours away from
00:59:52
Margo we actually just love coming together and just chatting yeah and that's what it that's what the podcast
00:59:58
end up being but some are more educational where we talk about um you know Pantry Staples and how to build a
01:00:06
pantry how to build a pantry um meal prepping for busy lives meal prepping for busy lives and then we do get we've
01:00:12
just done an e on our partners episode so I started listening to that yesterday yeah about not not not um not unpacking
01:00:19
after a trap my girlfriend does that too like she'll have the open Suitcase on the
01:00:24
floor for like a week where's me I even if I get home from like a flight at midnight I want to un get it in the
01:00:30
laundry before I go to bed clear it's out of your mind move on to the next thing you know whereas that's just
01:00:35
lingering lingering lingering let's not get started on this hey it's fun to catch up with you guys
01:00:43
as always for having us Tom love love the new studio congrats thank you and you I love seeing the the um the
01:00:49
evolution of two raw sisters as well you've always you never sit still a you've always got something going on
01:00:54
always we always yeah we do have an in our pants it's a good way of putting it hey he just
01:01:00
before we go I've got um some quick fire questions for you so the show is sponsored by the generate kiwi saver
01:01:05
scheme and they've challenged me to give $220,000 to charity by spreading the
01:01:08
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generate will donate $500 to a charity of your choice hell far away have we got one that we can agree on or we splitting
01:01:21
it down the middle and going 250 each let's do oh do you not want to do say Ronald
01:01:27
McDonald House we do we do a bit of work with them Ronald McDonald House oh they
01:01:32
do a great job don't they love them okay Marg and Rose are two raw sisters are
01:01:37
you Spenders or Savers sa Savers really both you're a spender are you kidding
01:01:43
you're a spender sper I'm a half half okay what has been your biggest money
01:01:49
mistake oh um lifestyle oh oh oh maybe an answer for each okay Ro just answer we started a
01:02:01
catering business that was probably one of our mistakes or learnings under the Two Sisters umbrella s umbrella but you
01:02:09
don't know if you don't try no and and that's that's what I keep saying to
01:02:12
myself and I needed to try to we needed to try to figure it out and personal gosh personal that's a hard one
01:02:21
um what about the wedding you just had they're not cheap yeah they're not cheap
01:02:25
yeah yeah no but that was a mistake not Mist what was your what's your I don't know [ __ ] I
01:02:33
did actually buy these really expensive earrings for my wedding but I did end up
01:02:37
returning them and I never really wear like earrings only fire remember sorry earrings biggest mistake the not the
01:02:46
Karen Walker face was sure let's go with that no what did you have no I was going to say my
01:02:53
wardrobes oh that pieces of pieces of [ __ ] I told her to a little bit more what do you mean like the the W the
01:03:00
actual Ward I think if you put your finger on it Dom it'll break right yeah what is that but is that a weight
01:03:06
problem though you got too many garments no I think I just went for the cheaper option I just got a nice new wardrob and
01:03:12
spent a little bit of money on it cuz I'm a spender and then I you have to do example you have and
01:03:20
you Jo oh God I'd hate this to be the moment that two Ro sisters came to an well you
01:03:27
can tell who bloody leads the charge is me um yeah are you who is the boss by the way different areas different bosses
01:03:36
yeah and does it vary from day to day yep yeah oh well yeah but we have our like your lead your areas in the
01:03:42
business and I'll lead my areas yeah um who do you guys talk to when you have
01:03:46
questions about money mom and dad or accountants oh they are oh no sorry or or accountants or accountants oh yeah
01:03:54
yeah yeah MH yeah it's amazing that most people talk to my husband's really he's
01:03:58
an accountant so yeah I'll talk to him right but you don't talk to him about
01:04:03
everything but there's some purchases that you oh no we have SE good I re I re I re that's good for a
01:04:10
healthy marage he's actually the spender in the relationship uh what's something fun you
01:04:14
can see yourself doing in retirement I'd love to tra do tra like travel the world yeah I I did a little
01:04:21
bit with running but obviously getting married and having kids now I haven't
01:04:25
really had well we haven't done any together so would definitely love to go traveling I'd love to do something in
01:04:30
child birth area what do you mean like a midwife no yeah whether it's volunteering or
01:04:39
something in the Woman's Health maternity space why I love that stuff if I wasn't doing two real sisters I
01:04:48
wouldn't be doing that it just fascinates me it just yeah okay I know it's great look your question
01:04:56
sorry sorry yeah yeah um if you could pick anywhere to retire in New Zealand where would it be and why uh W has
01:05:02
always been my absolute favorite place yeah God it's a great got married to yeah probably Queenstown for me and
01:05:10
what's something you love most about being a kiwi I love I love how you can walk into
01:05:15
a place and you know some like we were in a shop the other day two groups of people we knew walked in a good old
01:05:22
catch up with them if it was interesting being away coming home everyone's so
01:05:26
friendly here and we have the most amazing thing of everything landscape townships people oceans beaches coffee
01:05:37
food yeah it' be interesting to see um how your if your perspective will change
01:05:42
and if so how it'll change once you've lived in Melbourne for a while yeah I'm
01:05:45
I'm intrigued in on that too yeah do you like living in New Zealand I love it
01:05:51
yeah I love it too I love it um yeah it's great hey it's so good well Mar and Rosa two raw sisters
01:06:00
fabulous to have you as the first guests in my new studio oh we feel very privileged we do well done with your
01:06:06
podcast and everything too well thank you proud of you oh proud of you guys as well it's cool it's not easy out there
01:06:12
right like no one no one's making you do anything you got to make [ __ ] happen
01:06:15
yourself and you guys do and I'm I'm always inspired by you too thanks