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since time began we found ways to settle our differences this town ain't big
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enough for the both of us what you heard looks pretty darn spacious to me there ain't nothing but space but today
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we don't shoot it out we bet it out right draw right jockey man those one shoots out the
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gate bet it out with beta r18 bet responsibly Jordan Watson how dead welcome to my
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podcast I I want you to do you know how you pre-record the amazing intros that blow smoke up our ass I want you to do
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that in front of me mate I thought I thought I could maybe go for that today I I I can't do it in front of you
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because can I let you know on a secret from podcaster to podcaster okay okay um there's this AI tool called Podium that
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you subscribe you can subscribe to and you you load in your audio like an hour worth of podcast audio or whatever 10
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minutes later it gives you um suggested podcast titles for that episode it gives
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you chapter summaries it gives you an intro serious and the intro is like you know if if I see someone else has used
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it I can tell it's like oh you've been on Podium so you do need to sort of
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rewrite it yourself yeah yeah tweak it but it gives you a b gives you the bones of it takes so much work out of so it's
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all a lie it's all the whole thing yeah so I said this is a really compelling
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episode you guys are going to love this one you may not um yeah you're a podcas
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now you've got um you've got the parenting hangover with um Clint Roberts
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yeah yeah trying to diversify uh no Clint came to me we were chatting about it like like a year ago I think we've
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just had a year we have a weekly little podcast the parenting hangover just for weirdly it's for parents right to
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check in and just be able to vent and listen and like we go through the exact same stuff poop leaking out of nappies
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and all that stuff and then Clint will go DJ like at Mount mongi at some bar and says he's got like 20-year-old
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chicks going not recognizing him from Radio being like hey are you the guy from the parenting hangover like
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whenever we get whenever we get we get recognized all the time right but if you get recognized for the parenting
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hangover your podcast you're like whoa you feel like you're the very first time
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being recognized ever again that's it's really cool especially if it's some work
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that you're particularly proud of so yeah so Clint Roberts he's a dad of two
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girls you've got three girls three girls yeah yeah yeah yeah he's a good dude
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I've known him I I first met him when he graduated radio school and was an intern
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at the edge and he was like 20 21 at the time and he was at that age where like he's a big dude he's like
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he's like you and I six foot something and he was at that age where had had constantly you'd be at the photocopy and
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had just come and Tackle you and I was in my mid-30s I was like I was beyond the age of being tackled by some [ __ ]
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kid um but he's grown up to be a fine a fine man I love him yeah he's all right
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he's good you know he's good he's he's good value um yeah we're plugging away
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we're not as bloody big and successful as you mate but uh we're trying oh
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thanks bro it's a grind although you are with everything else you've done so um
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Jordan Watson um maybe better known as how to Dad 1.4 million 100% better known as how you Dad when people find out I
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have a real name and my first name isn't how they freak out like I remember I had
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my name for so long and then one day I think my wife or someone says it in a video oh Jordan and just the comments
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like your name's Jordan I didn't think you'd be a Jordan is your name Jordan
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the cage all this crap some oh gosh now first name Hal I'm I'm Chinese yeah um
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yeah 1.4 million YouTube is there is this more subscribers than any other pod any other YouTuber in New Zealand no no
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no no there are some there are some big YouTubers that are really unknown to new
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zealanders because they're huge in America like some gaming people I think there's a couple kiwis knocking on like
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10 million sub oh they just do like live streaming of games or thing yeah I think so yeah but
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up there there there's another few big ones but up there in the top 10 yeah it's amazing um as someone that's uh
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like signed up to YouTube 18 months ago and has put like an episode up every week since then and is just on the the
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door of 6,000 followers yeah it's um for most of us it's a slow build it is a
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slow build and it's oh it's changed lately and that's the social media game
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constantly but back in my day everyone's posting wide screen you know 16x9 that's
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all we posted online and then everything on Facebook turned like a square for a little bit hang on you want me to make
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Square videos now and now it's ver vertical videos and to get to a million subscribers when I started was like you
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every YouTuber could appreciate the grind to get there and now that they've created Shorts YouTube shorts which is
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like Tik Tok on YouTube these kids they're punching stuff out three videos a day and they're just smack getting a
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million subscribers in like 3 months just boom and all us OG YouTube like hang on do you know how long it took to
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curate these big widescreen videos and to make sure everything was good and you you kids haven't even paid your dues oh
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know I'm old manate I'm old I'll go to these social media agency conference
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things and I get welcomed up as like one of The Originals I don't feel that old
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but yeah I had Louis Davis run for a podcast last weekend I think he called you like the matur the
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mat he's new yeah he's the new young hip generation even though he's a dead he's
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yeah he's hip I ain't hip yeah I don't know um other platforms uh 700,000
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Instagram followers 921,000 on Tik Tok which I think's amazing because that's
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sort of the the new kid on the Block when it comes to social media and you're
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almost on a million and 2.6 million Facebook followers yeah it's it's bro
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it's insane yeah it's nuts and it's just been one of those slow growing things
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and then I fought Tik Tok for so long like no I'm not starting a Tik Tok not
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sing Tik Tok and then my videos were getting stolen and someone was uploading them and the only way you can argue it
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is when you go on to you need to have a page and you need to say that I'm the
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I'm the actual howto dad guy and this person is stealing my videos so then I
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started one to challenge this other person and I thought I'll just start posting some of my other videos there my
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old videos like the whole back catalog this is a whole new audience Tik Tok that's never seen my stuff and that's
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been the game plan and it's working and it's almost up to a million so you have
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to con constantly keep evolving depending on what the algorithms yeah man I'm old and grumpy about it and
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oh seriously I had a contact at Facebook and she's like basically you could feel
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her rage she just wants to slap me through the screen like all of a sudden it was this is three years ago Jordan
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you need to start making Square videos if you want to see your videos get pushed out and we need them to now to be
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able to monetize them like they did the YouTube thing all of a sudden they turned on monetization like you need to
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be making them three minutes long and I mate for everyone knows me as making like 60c short form give you a quick
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laugh parenting videos I'm not got to change just to be paid now and Stu like
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3 minutes is a long time to watch your guy y day working on this instructional video on how to do this and I fought it
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for so long and then then I realized some other kiwi creators are like bro you just stick two video like stick your
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last week's video on the end of this week's video and that gets you three
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minutes that's a good little hack that's they're sorry they're the biggest guys
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in New Zealand uh v a plug if you you might want to get them in vivaa dirt League they make gaming videos they're
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not streamers they make comical gaming videos and they are uh machine you think your lights are fancy they did a
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Kickstarter like a year ago with their fans and they fundraised like a million dollars and buil bought a studio a whole
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studio they are huge they got like six million subscribers on YouTube they're
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just creaming it creaming it that's the um one of the many cool things about
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this um this world we're living in now that you can have these content creators
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that I'd like to think I've got my ear to the ground but I've never heard of
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these people you're talking about they all have the these massive communities
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whereas back when when I was coming through more so but also you there was like a couple of people in TV networks
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that made all the decisions hey or radio programmers that decide if you if you make the cat or you don't now it's like
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put your head in the ring have a go 100% there's so many platforms now and yeah
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we uh like I again I'll go across to these social media things and there's
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all these kiwi kids coming up and oh yeah I've got 2 million on Tik Tok I'm
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like I've never heard of you and I start to feel out of date but I'm still I'm
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still around I'm still picking out I'm still giving it a crack oh bro you're
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doing great so what is um yeah where are your followers from like what sort of percentages from largest followings
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America and some of the so I how a d kicked off back in 2016 and it was funny to see some of the original comments and
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it made sense that I was getting followers from America because they thought my whole stick is sticking and
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wearing stubbies in a bush shirt and they thought to they don't have stubbies
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so they thought I'm just a weird dad wearing my boxer shorts and putting videos out online with my kid and I'm
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just like my pajamas and I'm in wearing running around stores and outside New
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Zealand and my undies and so they're following cuz they're just intrigued
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like why is this guy as und's making all these videos but USA by far is the biggest then uh Australia and then New
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Zealand and that just goes down to Country size yeah yeah for sure population size but how um so you live
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in papamoa in the Bay of Plenty do you do you get recognized much you hear people whispering if you go to Bay or uh
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yeah you have the exact same thing it's that my wife has a more because they I'm
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like one of those leader dads the classic dad in the Airporter if you need to go somewhere the dad's at the front
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and the rest have to follow like I'm getting you there so I'm always at the
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front of the family and I don't hear it cuz classic kiwis will just keep quiet
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and you'll look like this at the person that you see and then it's behind is
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that the guy and we'll get somewhere and my wife will be like geez you're getting
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noticed hard out today I don't know completely oblivious I don't know am I about getting to the
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gate when we first moved to Papa MOA it was funny cuz I lived in so long and orlanders don't care before Pap M was up
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Inland for 10 years and orlanders don't really care if you see a famous person I
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think everyone's a bit more used to it but down there I'm in this little
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Beachside not a little but Beachside town and The Whispers were loud like when I first moved there I was like geez
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I'm haven't been used to this and what this and stairs and how to Dad and all
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this and now they're used to it I'm part of the community it's right they see me
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running down the camera with a camera and I'm being an idiot on the street and
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people just leave me now they don't annoy me they don't toot the horn CU
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they know they'll stuff the club so they're like [ __ ] he's filming just
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leave him just leave him yeah so do you you've been working um as an independent
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you gave up your 95 how many years ago now 2017 is when I went full time with just doing how to dead stuff here [ __ ]
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that must have been terrifying at the time but you've been doing it um ever since then so so what does what does an
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average date look like do you schedule it you get up and like any instagrammer um my chef Cooks me a beautiful
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breakfast I do cold water immersion for four hours um I get beautiful Golden Sun
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um I'm a busy day I don't schedule I've come across uh Terrell he's another
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Creator and he asked me recently a thing oh what's your schedule looking like
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like what schedule he's like you know your content schedule you got your videos planned
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out yep yep no I've never been that I constantly chase that but I'm not that
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person where I don't have a planned structured video plan I'm not like oh
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great I've got like right now I have no videos in the bank no new videos filmed
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ready to go I'm a wake up if something awesome Pops in my head that week anything else I had
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planned is out the window I get so passionate I jump onto that I'm like oh my gosh I'm G to do that sorry I can't
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do that cancel that I'm going to go shoot this thing it's going to be great
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do it post it sometimes it's not great sometimes it is um but most of my day
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now is getting up and uh editing editing content I've got the I've Got a jandle
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Brand working on the jandle brand and editing for the podcast it's a lot of sitting at your desk it ain't as much
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running around and filming as I want it to be um but to make it viable like I said Facebook now like YouTube you can
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monetize and so the cool thing with Facebook is constantly the audience is growing so this whole audience hasn't
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unlike YouTube which is has an awesome back catalog set up right if you go to anyone's YouTube page you can really
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easily see all their old videos Facebook's hard if you click on something they don't really have that
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and so I clicked on a few years ago you got all these new followers haven't seen
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your back catalog from how to hold a baby your first video you ever did so now and then I'm repurposing and res
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sharing old clips they're all earning some dollars when if they jump on and Catch Fire again and weirdly I'm going
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to gloat right now but I just realized my second oldest video how to how to teach a baby to walk and I've got my kid
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in this is back from 2006 it looks like I filmed it on a potato I realized I hadn't ever res shared it in the eight
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years of res sharing content I had never ever re-shared it so I made it into a vertical just today put the captions on
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cuz that's what we all need to do now captions and make it vertical posted it
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it's my biggest video ever on Instagram right now it's grind like a million
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views every couple hours I think it's up to 20 million views I just posted it
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yesterday unreal and that's on Instagram so usually one platform will do well and
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it'll bomb everywhere else but Tik Tok it's G real big Facebook it bombed but
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that's the that's the other hardest I'm rambling now on ranting but that's the
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other hardest thing where you'll get these arguments from these um social media platforms because we'll will
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always say hey why is my video bombed on your thing like why is it not pushed out
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and they go hey good content is good content and'll always do good if it's
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good content my argument is how does something get 20 million views on Instagram and then a th on Facebook the
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exact same video or you know it changes week to week so you're constantly chasing and every Creator can relate to
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this you're constantly trying to figure out what is successful like what do people want but it's hard to figure out
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when every platform is performing different on uniform thing is it just different audiences on the different
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platforms I don't know I no idea the audiences are for me are all pretty similar yeah Facebook and met it's the
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same [ __ ] thing yeah Facebook and Instagram YouTube and but you yeah so you're constantly just kind of in
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hamster wheel like well that one mean and then oh just check YouTube it must be good there oh well I got 800 views on
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YouTube cool so maybe it wasn't good do you do you do you um fixated on that now
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or was there a time that you fixated on it you kind of you go up and down for me
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I've been doing it for so years but you definitely have moments where you're
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like [ __ ] I need to completely change things aren't working and then and then
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you kind of relax again and I think it's when you relax and chill out a bit and
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just do stuff that's the I'm lucky that I'm at the point now where I don't have
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to hustle as much like I'm not trying to be I have to grow I have to get big I
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have to get big that I can just make stuff that I find funny now yeah like a lot of people that click through into my
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stuff now like oh he doesn't even have kids in it and it's working because I'm
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just doing the things that I find funny now yeah yeah yeah I I want to um talk about that and when that pivot from
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being the howto guy to to We Now changed and how big that decision was um there's
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so much to unpack with you we'll go all the way back though right ear real you
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want to talk about this this is say it's a so we'll just get that in case viewers
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are thinking it's real no it's fa I haven't been to Turkey I haven't got the
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plugs done okay so um so Jordan pre- internet Fame who who was he funny guy sensitive guy deep thinker uh how old
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where where am I um give me an age um oh now where are you from you're from that
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town where the guy W Lotto yeah Tata yeah Tata yeah with triv triv won 20 million on lot and yeah he wasn't a true
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tofan he I think he'd come later in life so he R's like did you know Trev he
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worked at the local stores not a lot of us knew him some people did I think he blew it all he blew it all on um I think
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like um like NASCARs and things like that we're also famous for um David Bane when he was released from
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prison there was the Joe carum lived in the like the outskirts of Tata so somehow there was a connection to the
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town even though Bane's not from there and I don't know what happened but the
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side of the four square someone's decided oh let's let spray paint a big
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mural welcome home Bane and I remember visiting my town I'm like who's sign this off he's not even
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from here and it's pretty cont we don't know okay it's pretty 50/50 on that one
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what a what a town how to Dad how to blow Lotto winnings how to get away with murder how to get away with murder um
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eron Simpson oh she from she's from tofa I don't think we've got any other simp
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how to marry The Bachelor yeah so yeah so so you're from you're from sort of
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the broader WTO area so um your dad's an e fisherman is that his hobby or his job
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no that's his job um how is that lucrative there are two eel factories in the whole of New Zealand one of them
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happens to be in tata his dad was an eel fisherman you catch the eels you sort the eels you take them to the eel
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Factory they pay you money and then those eels get most of them get exported overseas Frozen and then exported
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overseas or some live exports I worked at the eel Factory for a time as like a 15 year-old 16-year-old scooping up Dead
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Eels and doing eel stuff but I grew up with an old man that doing eel stuff yeah I grew up with an old man that was
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an eel fisherman and you'd go to school some mornings and you'd smell a bit cuz
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you were helping dead that morning right and then you you move tomorrow or you just do your schooling in morville uh my
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parents split up when I was eight and then I kind of jumped between so my mom when I lived in morville dad stayed in
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tof and I jumped growing up back and forth between them right so your your your teachers are old classmates at
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morville what would they say about you at the time oh just tall dark handsome great um I had the same thing in every
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report where it's just Jordan needs to apply himself Jordan's doing really well
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if he'd stopped talking just a bit of class CL mentality so you always had that sort of humor streak yeah like to
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keep the laughs yeah yeah yeah yeah being a bit of a yeah idiot in class and then what what did you want to do in
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school um like in terms of a career I was like parents were not pushing I didn't have parents that were like you
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need to go here and do this just both hands off and I remember being six4 and just
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thinking I'm going to be a cop but I'm going to go to Aussie and be a cop cuz
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Aussies can carry guns like that was how immature my brain was and then i' mov up
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to a you hear about mates oh I went to King's College and at 16 I already knew
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that I was going to do this and my dad and there told me that I was like bro I was like I was an immature rural New
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Zealand kid who had no idea and then I finished seven form and uh I was lucky enough to talk to the careers teacher
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Miss Thomas shout out and she said look you've always had the gift of the gab
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why don't you go and do a radio course I said oh yeah and so just over the Ki so
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morille just over the Ki Rangers is Bay plany Polytech and they had a six-month certificate radio I was not keen at all
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and then a mate of mine said I'm going over to bayly polych to do a sports certificate 6 months okay I'm doing the
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radio we're going to Flat together this is going to be great and so I went and
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did that and met my lovely now wife yeah yeah Jody yeah you said the story The Story Goes that you were um you didn't
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know what you wanted to do and then someone went around the radio school and said to Jody what does she want to do
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and she said something about moving to Oakland so you're like oh yeah yeah I'm
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going to move to Oakland too yeah something like that yeah again real boys not head just head over heels with this
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girl move over to the Big Smoke of toonga see Jody fall like 18-year-old puppy in love with Jody we start dating
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and then yeah an interviewer comes towards the end of the school from Christ Church sorry Christ Church
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broadcasting School comes up to ask who wants to come and do the degree if you want to continue and uh so we will sit
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down and I'm being part moldy so they' instantly Fallen love like you're a big
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tick you're a tick in the Christ Church broadcasting school's box diversify this
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is fantastic and I was smart okay I was I had I had NCA level one two and three like I had I ticked everything and so
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they're like Jordan you're in Jody comes out of the interview crying I'm like
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what's up and she's like I never did level three I never got level three so
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they said I can't come I don't worry it'll be all right and two days later
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she's I'm going up to I'm going to now go up to Oakland and I'm going to go and
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do some film school stuff I was like yeah me too yep totally so and cuz at that time I did this radio course and
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got right into it and my dream was I'm going to be Neil Walker why do I have
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these weird just like 16-year-old wants to be a Aussie cop with a gun and I really visualize it now I'm visualizing
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I want to be Neil Walker he was the news reader at the time yeah like the Mike McRoberts he was he was Mike McRoberts
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before Mike potentially yeah remember at the same time Clint Brown was a big um Sports presenter as well yeah yeah yeah
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yeah so I was like I'm going to read the six o' news um that that was my dream to
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go down to Christ Church do this three-year degree and so we joke now that every time we see Jack tame cuz
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he's around our same age I'm like that could have been me back I reckon you're
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having way more fun than Jack super successful Jack T like there could have been me I could have been Jack tame High
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grilling politicians and stuff um but no followed followed her up to Oakland we'd
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been dating like three months and I've just thrown everything away to say no
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I'll come to Orland I'll do film school with you and she was like cool and we
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were flooding together within three months of Day live together and we've been together ever since was it s love
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at first sight or infatuation at First Sight from for me yeah 100% throwing it back to her
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at the time she's like I think I remember saying I love you and she's just like
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oh just that awkward hug it didn't put me down I was still like I don't know if
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you're serious or just doing this um self-deprecating thing no I'm 100% I'm I
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was hit over heel no this is a true story and she joked that oh we'll go through the alphabet I'm not quite an l
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and she said ABC she was like I J you I was like what's that she's like I'm not
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quite at love yet I'm there and I it didn't put me off I was like all right
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okay cool that's only two letters away I'm going to hang about I drove I was
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driving this I had a lowered Mitsubishi L200 Ute and I like as long as I keep getting here and taking on drivers with
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my cool Ute I'll get there get it's funny when you're oh that's really cute that's
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that's really cute I think anyone that's um like not k out completely by their
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love you thing and is playing like an alphabet game which I've never heard of
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before but it's really cute try that one yeah she did that on me and it worked I
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hung about about kept you in the game and then um also did you do the same course with her so you did more study in
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Oakland yeah so so yeah she goes I'm going out to Oakland again I was clueless bro I went to a rural school
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where they didn't even have media studies I'd never had a camera and you
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go up to this it was called South Seas film school and they're like what do you
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want to major in I was like well I did the radio thing I kind of want to be Neil Walker so I was I'm going to major
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in TV presenting and in the audition I remember them or the interview to get into the I remember them saying yeah you
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can major in TV presenting and then the whole course starts and on the first day
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me and Jody are looking at each other cuz both of us wanted to do the presenting and in the first meeting of
00:23:09
the first day they're like so here's the majors you can do documentary directing
00:23:13
drama directing camera lighting and audio editing and acting and we're both like where's the presenting you we've
00:23:21
come up here to do presenting oh no no that's just a minor that's just an
00:23:23
evening thing that you might do half an hour a week so then just like out of hat
00:23:28
I was just like oh I'll do that and I did um documentary directing for a year
00:23:33
which isn't like you learn how to become a documentary director not at all you
00:23:36
kind of learn the basics of holding a camera kind of trying to structure a story and I was bad I was going out and
00:23:43
still a mature man like shooting like they want you to make a serious documentary I went out you had to do
00:23:49
find a business and go and film their backstory of this business and Drury tires we all know Drury tires on south
00:23:55
Oakland As you leave the city Drury Tire very famous and I went along to film their life story and I took a presenter
00:24:01
mate with me and the whole thing is just me doing joke like I I'm the director
00:24:05
but my poor presenter was like and then jury tires was established and things started to roll along and he rolls a
00:24:11
tire and then we just cut to a tire and it's just constant Tire gags after tire
00:24:17
gags I remember getting sat down and being told Jordan you need to pull your socks up this is a serious school but I
00:24:24
think sounds very Crow goes wild eh yeah but I also think just being clown and having fun with it was
00:24:30
me like my comfort blanket cuz I'm just there with all these people talking about bro have you seen Pulp Fiction I
00:24:37
love this and this and I was in a film buff and back I was like what the hell's
00:24:40
Pulp Fiction bro I've seen Gladiator and that's my favorite movie I don't know I
00:24:44
don't know film history but I'm surrounded by people that were huge into
00:24:47
TV film like they were passionate about it and i' kind of just rocked up cuz I
00:24:52
followed this chick that I liked yeah and so I had to then I started to try and be more serious with it but when you
00:24:59
look back now from with what you're doing now did has this been helpful at all the stuff that you learned 100% cuz
00:25:07
that that then carried on into like a I was working behind the scenes in TV shows building props and stuff and
00:25:12
constantly looking over people's shoulders and oh is that how they edit okay okay oh and that's how you meant to
00:25:17
hold the camera and that's how you do that so all those things helped me then
00:25:20
figure out yeah it was very long apprenti ship yes so so you did that course then you're working on eating
00:25:25
media lunch with Jeremy Wells yeah oh you've done your research yes um that was a great show a lot of people
00:25:31
listen listening to this or watching this won't even remember that but that was brilliant it a great yeah a great
00:25:35
series and I remember the audition interview what I keep saying audition and uh they had planned it as a gag and
00:25:42
I'd never met anyone famous at the stage so I'm 18 I finished my film school I
00:25:45
think I'm still 18 and or 19 and I go and sit down at the eating media lunch office and C
00:25:52
Logan famous producer she's interviewing me and afterwards like once I got the
00:25:57
job they told me that they planned it but slowly more and more people just started to sit at the table and they
00:26:01
wouldn't say anything they' just look at you and then like Jeremy Wells comes and
00:26:04
joins the table and I'm still just looking at Clear answering all the questions and they said the only thing
00:26:09
that got me the job is they had the black claps playing Black Caps playing on the screen in the background and I
00:26:14
just note oh sh we're doing a right at the cricket and I carried on and they're
00:26:17
all massive Cricket Buffs all the guys that work there and they said it was between you and a younger attractive
00:26:23
chick but we chose you cuz you love Cricket that's amazing so the the staff members coming in and out during the
00:26:29
interview was it any cameras here or anything was no no it was like an internal joke yeah it was an internal
00:26:34
joke like when we start interviewing everyone just come join the table there only like it's a small there's only like
00:26:39
six or seven of them but by the end still very off oh yeah but I had that kind of gift of the gab confidence where
00:26:44
it didn't freak me out too much and you just roll with it they just wanted to
00:26:48
know that's it was that kind of rural upbringing they just wanted to know if
00:26:52
we ask you to do something like help us make something or build something can you do that I like yeah mcgyver mate
00:26:57
Chuck me B of duct tape I just winging it I was bullshitting but yeah and then I slowly got to be known as someone who
00:27:03
could do that like well just like number number eight wi sort of mentality yeah but yeah it's a funny way to explain it
00:27:10
where again being from rural New Zealand moved out to Oakland massive slap in the
00:27:15
face on like the cost of coffees my first day there everyone buying their lunches I went in with a lunch box on my
00:27:21
first day I'm like what you all buy your lunch every day so then you and then
00:27:26
like people going out stopping at 9:00 a.m. to go coffees and more food and I'm
00:27:29
like this is nuts people were getting married at like over 30 I remember going home and talking to Jody being like
00:27:36
there's people there they've been engaged since they were they're not
00:27:39
married like where I grew up if you were 22 and didn't have two kids something
00:27:43
was wrong with you like if you wen't married with two kids and so to them when I got my first project
00:27:52
with eating me lunch and they're like we want you to do this I had to make these
00:27:54
fake mowa feet or some kind of prop and I pulled it off and they're like holy [ __ ] this guy's
00:28:00
amazing I'll go back and tell my dad and my older brother these stories and they're like and they know they're
00:28:04
another level of me right they're the kind of guys that their boat could be sinking out of sea and you give them a
00:28:09
piece of chain gum they will save everyone like they're the guys that can just fix anything I'm not that level at
00:28:14
all but I'm going to them up there I'm [ __ ] awesome like they think I'm
00:28:19
amazing and My Dead Brother just like this is a joke you are useless you are useless so it was great and I kind of
00:28:27
that went around and I jumped onto a few other jobs in that kind of Realm of just
00:28:31
yeah know Jordan get Jordan on he'll [ __ ] he'll he'll figure it out and
00:28:35
then then you ended up um yeah I think we first met when you were on um [ __ ] it
00:28:40
I was going to say John on Benin but it may have even been wab bin uh CU it was a cap sh before those two got together
00:28:46
there was the jonno project yeah jono project and wannab and then they combined but yeah I was on wnab bin and
00:28:52
uh let's get inventing which was the kids show yeah my M CL he was the host of that I know Clint back when I was
00:29:00
building helping plan stuff and do props Clint was the host yeah oh small world small world man so so um y wannab b oh
00:29:08
yeah you yeah wnab B that's right wab B random skits and sketches and then so
00:29:13
that'll went to John B Well w wab bin um doesn't get um credit for this and Ben
00:29:19
Boyce will be very very pleased but he just gets put under the John on Ben umbrella pilot sketch wab bin was a
00:29:25
standalone it was the pilot sketch of John on bin wab bin was was was that wannab beIN or was that JN and Jon o and
00:29:30
beIN I'm sure that was wab Bin yeah it was wannab Bean wannab was before Jon o
00:29:33
and bean we're confusing people a lot with all these beans and beans and beans
00:29:36
but jonno had the jonno project Ben had wannab and W wnab ban was full of sketches and things that you see on jono
00:29:43
and B and and it was one to being that did the pilot sketch I I don't know if
00:29:47
they did it oh the pilot oh I see I thought you meant the pilot the pilot one where we got in trouble yeah during
00:29:53
just before the 2011 Rugby World Cup were you there then I put the costume together
00:29:59
did you go to jail no the wor you want to tell the story sorry a lot of people won't be familiar
00:30:05
won't remember what we're talking about it's 1 years we can talk about it now
00:30:08
Ben Boyce is uh a TV personality had a show called wab B and he had a there was a segment called everyone gets confused
00:30:15
and think it was Ben it was actually Bryce Casey Bryce had a bit part on the show called breaking
00:30:22
uh it was saying like smuggling Bryce I can't remember the name but every week
00:30:26
he' try and get himself into something like not legally but let's say the
00:30:32
cinema he just walked up to the cinema with a ladder and he'd go in and watch
00:30:35
the movie because he had a lad or he wore a Toy Story costume you get in somewhere and there someone's in a
00:30:40
planning meeting just had the idea oh let's get him um through customs at an
00:30:44
airport and no one flagged it so like everyone just no one said [ __ ] let's not
00:30:49
do this so I just get a thing across my desk Jordan by the way can you just find
00:30:53
a costume there was a costume shop down the road can you put together I remember
00:30:57
going as I I need a we need a dress of pilot so I need like pants and a shirt with the little things and we'll put
00:31:02
some things here I remember sticking like a a printed out just on A4 paper like a an emblem and like glue stick
00:31:09
that on the hat Bryce has tats up his arm and everything and he he strolls into the airport and we had a dodgy
00:31:15
dodgy Toyota High a black spray painted van at that stage I didn't go on the
00:31:19
shoot but like so the crews already hopped out this weird van they've probably already been under surveillance
00:31:23
as soon as this van showed up but Bryce is walking around and gets to almost gets through but gets turned away and
00:31:30
that's it and then within the time that the guys carried on went off and went
00:31:34
filming they didn't think anything bad had happened it broke the news story broke that a fake pilot has tried to go
00:31:40
through customs and it hit all the news and then everyone in the office just feels suck to their gut Ben's freaking
00:31:46
out and everyone was just waiting who's going to get done here and it ended up
00:31:51
being like four or five of the crew had to go to court and I wasn't one at the
00:31:55
go but go I was safe I was still young and innocent mate I was only like 19 I didn't know they just told me yeah I
00:32:03
never have to talk about it whatsoever I was nothing to do with it I know Ben reasonably well and I I feel like it
00:32:08
sort of changed him as a person in a lot of ways like he became very very cautious after that yeah 100% he'd
00:32:13
probably agree but yeah 100% it did 100% yeah that was that was huge I remember um I was working at the AG at the time
00:32:20
The Rock was right next door to us and it was the the FR whole front page of the New Zealand Herald like CCTV footage
00:32:26
of BR it was like do I'm pretty sure there was like a do you know this man or
00:32:29
do like they were trying to find out who it was and then we all had to go forward
00:32:33
but when you look back now you how no executive producer which are like the bosses right like you you are the
00:32:39
writers the dumb Riders you know idiot Riders you come up with stupid gags then you've got your producer who's like the
00:32:45
boss in the office then you have an executive producer and no one's gone don't know
00:32:50
about this one yeah it's so funny when you look back and yeah prime minister
00:32:54
John ke at the time like he waged I think it was there was a extra bigal deal cuz it was the year of the Rugby
00:32:59
World Cup so they didn't want any sort of terrorism it would have made it would
00:33:03
have made International there would have been some Australian stories but small world man yeah so then um and then so
00:33:09
you work I think yeah I think we met during that time or maybe during John on would have been you would have been a
00:33:14
bit part celebrity that we scraped the barrel we couldn't find anyone so like
00:33:19
oh there's Dom Harvey we got you mate and we put you on a sketch don't worry I don't get it all
00:33:24
the time now all of a sudden I'll get a last minute call hey can you you come on
00:33:28
to this thing have you tried everyone else and you're down to the Z grade celebrities I'm here yeah yeah yeah so
00:33:33
you you you were there for years so like building sets just being like a what was
00:33:38
your job exactly uh what was I called production coordinator and it was like um yeah building stuff making stuff uh
00:33:45
painting stuff trying to make like if they had a crazy idea where we need to have a rocket land on a moon for the
00:33:50
sketch I'll be like trying to make a small things nothing massive then you had external props people that would do
00:33:58
the big crazy things like huge sets but M was small dayto day it was an insane show to work on like people forget how
00:34:04
busy that they were a topical show just pumping out sketches every week it'll be
00:34:08
last minute things like if you've tripped over and it made the front news and we're going to air that day [ __ ]
00:34:13
it's the biggest story we have to do quickly make a sketch and make stuff um
00:34:17
and behind the scenes she's helping organize stuff so so they wanted to film
00:34:21
a rugby sketch and they needed someone in a tackle bag prop would help figure out how to put someone in a tackle bag
00:34:26
would help sort find the location um make sure the location knows try and get the location for free a lot of
00:34:31
hustling which I think help helps now as well a lot of hustling stuff for free which is how us instagramers live from
00:34:37
week to week yeah well it's if you're not used to hustling um no can be quite
00:34:42
a confrontational word but after a while you get used to no way if you've lived
00:34:46
that Hustler's life well I I had the real awesome Hustlers gig of I worked on
00:34:50
let's get inv venting which is a kids TV show so we'd ring up anyone ex and we
00:34:55
then finish with can you please don't this for free we'll give you a credit in
00:34:59
the show it's it's for the kids it's a kids TV show and 99% of the time it was
00:35:03
a yes and then you jump to like a j and straight away you say John on B and there's people that ey roll on the other
00:35:08
end of the phone and they're like no like hang up we've got no budget and we
00:35:13
need a Holden Commodore for a sketch can you lend it to us yeah yeah yeah can we
00:35:18
WE station where can we have like a million Post-it notes but it was awesome it was an awesome cool time and slowly
00:35:23
just climb the ranks there at John on B I was lucky TV is hard because the short so you get like a 3mon contract
00:35:30
and then you could be out of work I had that plenty of times and then if you landed John on Ben it was like the
00:35:35
golden Techo because they were just year long just on every week it was a full and then they let's say they went off
00:35:42
for three months or four months of the year let's get inv venting would start
00:35:46
up and then I'd jump over to that show so I was lucky for like three or four
00:35:49
years there I was fully employed and John on been there was some awesome times man like they took me to Europe
00:35:54
like they went to Europe and they're like we need another cameraman and at that time I was I couldn't even white
00:35:59
balance like simple things on a camera and they're like Jordan you'll come cuz
00:36:03
you can help sort things and be cameraman some of my footage was terrible I got I got back and F so
00:36:10
bad like they're having heated I know they're having heated discussions about
00:36:14
why' no one get this shot and then they have to almost shut up cuz they're like
00:36:17
cuz we sent Jordan to be the cameraman and he wasn't a cameraman right but I
00:36:21
was I went to Europe baby yeah suckers that's cool what a cool experience was it was your part of you
00:36:28
during that time though um that was that was sitting there filming making stuff thinking [ __ ] I could do funnier than
00:36:36
this I could do better than this you like sort of yeah yeah I get you but no not at that time like you always loved
00:36:42
the idea like you got excited when they're like hey we need someone to can you jump in that only happened like
00:36:47
twice that I was actually in a sketch this is before how a de was anything and you're like oh cool wow this is what I
00:36:54
but you were kind of so caught up with how busy the show was there was no time to think of your own stuff always like a
00:37:01
I had a few like business ideas at that younger age but nothing was ever to do with TV or being in front of a limelight
00:37:08
it was uh it was like a competitor to trade me idea that I did nothing with when I talked to my wife and made a
00:37:15
website for ages tried to and then another one about filming old people's stories I had this idea like I always
00:37:20
had these oh yeah Memoir of a Giza yeah how do you know that Memoirs of a again what idiot T line no wonder no one took
00:37:30
it seriously I named this amazing idea cuz when I tell it to people now they're
00:37:33
like that is so cool like yeah no I named it Memoirs of agiza and got no jobs yeah it's it's like it's the the
00:37:39
idea itself is basically like a basically a podcast with someone that's maybe their life is running out it's s
00:37:44
like a Keepsake for the family right but you've given it like a goofy name I know
00:37:48
and then I so I quickly tried to change it to your Memoirs but then I also I was
00:37:52
again Young no money to put into it I think I printed off some A5 flyers and I went to like the richest suburbs in
00:37:58
ockland and put one in every letter box and I think I got one email so I gave up
00:38:02
on it I I've just delivered like 200 to 200 people I got one email I'm out I'm
00:38:07
out but I lucky enough because I needed content like for the website I did one with my nan who's now passed away I did
00:38:14
one with my wife's father who's now passed away and I did one with my grandma who's still kooking but like my
00:38:19
wife's family the day their dad passed away they're like straight away where's
00:38:23
the thing Jordan can you send it and they all sat down and watched it which I haven't explained it to you you sit down
00:38:27
with like a grandparent is the whole idea and I capture their whole story like where were you born blah blah blah
00:38:33
and I get as many photos as I can from all family and then you make it into like a 20 30 or an hour little
00:38:38
documentary basically and then you've got that forever and it was such a great
00:38:41
idea when you tell that to people like wow this is great but it's hard to sell
00:38:45
that was the problem because the person's not going to buy it for themsel the grandparent and then then you've got
00:38:50
it it's quite it's not cheap so then you've got to try and convince all their
00:38:53
kids if they've got kids to put money in and it's just messy to get done but what
00:38:58
I suggest down the barrel I don't know what camera's on me but my thing and
00:39:02
I've done a video on this and it went well is get an iPhone you don't have to
00:39:07
do it fancy sit down with your grandparent and have a yarn and just film it sit down for an hour with them
00:39:11
and have a yarn and you've got it forever yeah do it yourself although if there was a professional business like
00:39:16
that for Rich families it' be good cuz what you're saying is you're talking
00:39:19
about having b-roll in there and I I had um so this is after I've done film school I'm working at John on bean I've
00:39:27
vested in my own camera which is a big deal a Canon 60D and a tripod and um I got I did get one job the guy that hired
00:39:35
me on let's get inventing he bought one for his wife we did one on her dad who
00:39:40
was uh he went to Japan for the war his story was amazing and the best stories and so I went I had two cameras so you
00:39:47
had two camera angles and you film all these photos and made this one hour thing and she broke down it was for her
00:39:52
50th and she was like it's the most beautiful thing oh it's wonderful so
00:39:56
there I've pitched it if you wants to take that idea run with it and make it
00:39:59
work I'll be proud just to see that someone can pull it off cuz I don't know
00:40:01
how you sell it and do do you have a copyright on the name or can someone use if you want use OFA you use that's yours
00:40:09
free and I had Chris step Chris step do you know Chris step oh from met he from was a character on let's get inventing
00:40:17
and also an amazing artist so he drew like the Facebook banner picture and everything that went on my flyer like
00:40:25
cartoon elderly people just standing there but made them like one's got a breast lower than the other like comical
00:40:32
caricatures and then I had you know Memoirs of a Giza and that's what's going in people's L boxes like again
00:40:38
you're a flipping idiot mate I'm not here I I suppose you had the ideas but you just didn't have the
00:40:44
sort of like maturity to yeah 100% I'm still like that now I have the ideas I'm
00:40:49
still not mature enough but um yeah so so 2015 you're still working on John on
00:40:55
ban um you're a dad at this stage you've got Alba she's 4 months old Y and then
00:40:59
you do um how to hold a baby and this you did this for Sam Smith who won the traitor last year yes yeah yes Sam Smith
00:41:08
worked at John onb as a writer he had a kid on the way I've told the story many
00:41:13
times if you get annoyed just put up with it and Alba is my second daughter she's four months old and it's a weekend
00:41:19
my wife has gone out and taken the youngest with her and I'm just bored like I'm playing with her but just bored
00:41:25
dad will come up with stupid I did immature Dad I'll shoot a video for Sam that'd be funny like he's about to have
00:41:31
a kid be he'll find it funny and I I happened to be in stubbies and Bush shirt which I wore on the weekend and um
00:41:39
then just wrote I remember writing some ideas and keeping my laptop screen open and was held to hold a baby and I just
00:41:44
wrote down like Jesus hold double baby Jesus over the CH over the shoulder all these silly things filmed it with her
00:41:51
all went fine and I knew how to edit then so I clipped it together and I posted it to my YouTube channel and then
00:41:58
got the link and put it to Sam Smith's Facebook and said hey bro you'll like
00:42:02
here you go bro you'll enjoy this and went to bed and woke up and it had gone
00:42:06
everywhere with no plan whatsoever there was no like you know what I'm going to
00:42:11
sit down and make myself a viral video but it just went like crazy back then it was like a million views in a week but
00:42:17
that was huge back then and it's lifechanging lit like this this this moment literally um like changed the
00:42:24
trajectory of your life yep 100% and it was completely accidental completely accidental and had two days of like you
00:42:33
know internet Fame celebrity status for two days where Paul Henry show like newspapers are calling you and and
00:42:41
asking what you do and I remember I used to be me and Jody went to London on OE many years ago and I was a landscaper
00:42:47
over there and I remember stuff called me like the day after when had gone back stuff the newspaper calls me and says oh
00:42:54
and by the way what do you do for work and I was in that Split Second I was like sh if I say I work in TV they
00:43:00
probably won't run this they'll think I've done a video for John or Bean or
00:43:02
something that was genius so I was like I'm a landscaper and then there were all
00:43:06
these rumors over the next year like I'd bump into people they're like you're a
00:43:08
courier driver right like no I'm not a courier driver but I love that what's
00:43:13
the word ambiguity no one knew who what I did or who I was and here I am just pumping away doing stuff at John on bean
00:43:20
and like I ended up being the floor manager for the live show in the studio the guy that was like it's coming to you
00:43:24
three two just cuz I'm loud I was great audience control oh everyone shut up
00:43:28
here we come in 32 and people would started to show up to the show and be like once we had started I was still
00:43:35
working once I launched how a dad that is that how a dad how oh my God how aad and it was getting awkward for me I'm
00:43:43
like no no no no no we're here for jono and bed look at Jon and bed um but yeah
00:43:48
kicked it off and had my two days going back had my two days of celebrity Fame and then nothing like that's how
00:43:55
quick internet stuff happens you like you had this huge video and then you're
00:43:59
like oh that's it oh that was fun did were people were some people annoyed when they found out you were in a
00:44:04
landscape Gardener it was a genius Lie by the way I think you're dead right on
00:44:08
that if you said you worked behind the I was more I was more it wasn't a deep
00:44:12
thought like I said I I still remember the phone call to the stales at the at the church it's called The Church the
00:44:17
office at TV3 I was pinned open at the door and I just remember them saying what do you do for work and I just
00:44:22
thought if I say a video and what I do they're going to think it's a cuz back
00:44:26
then we at the same time on John B and W B we used to try and film fake videos and like put them online one time we did
00:44:33
like a seagull pooping on a lady cuz I I think Steven Co and that used to do it they used to release a video and like
00:44:40
six months later it goes all around the world and then they step forward and say
00:44:43
look it was us and they show the behind the scenes and we made this for so I had
00:44:47
that quick thought in my head I was like no I'm a landscaper um I I've never had anyone
00:44:52
come up to me and be like bro you lied to me yeah feel chea I don't know I don't know I'm sorry if you feel cheated
00:44:58
what about um so the Paul Henry show appearance did did they ask you to wear the the costume or was that no again
00:45:06
that was just that was just my own yeah all that's another genius thought only
00:45:09
just brain fart ideas but yeah went in and thought what do you wear to this and at that I don't really have fancy
00:45:14
clothes for TV anyway and I think I just thought it' be funny if I just committed
00:45:18
to wearing the stubbies and Bush shirt that was only for That interview and then we did nothing so we
00:45:23
had that two days of Fame and then it's like 6 months had passed so this was
00:45:27
2015 that video came out we had no plans of doing anymore when I say we I mean me
00:45:32
and my wife we hadn't talked about hey let's make more of these videos there
00:45:35
was more people saying it to us and friends and family be like BR that was crack up bro like you should do another
00:45:40
one of those and so um yeah 2016 started 2016 we start I made a Facebook page and
00:45:46
a YouTube page called them how to Dad remember Googling how to make a good YouTube page and it said be consistent
00:45:53
so we committed to every weekend we'll shoot something and will post it at Monday at 7:00 on both platforms which
00:46:00
is the wrong way if you got two platforms apparently you're don't mean to PO I don't know I still don't know to
00:46:03
this day nobody knows we did that and we and we just started man and we never missed a Monday like it would be like
00:46:10
Sunday afternoon be like [ __ ] we haven't made up a how too and oh oh yeah that's
00:46:15
funny hey and I didn't say no we I was filming it myself we had a vacuum cleaner my camera didn't have autofocus
00:46:24
and we had a vacuum cleaner where you put the stick in and it was would stay upright so I would set the camera up I'd
00:46:29
go and put the vacuum where I think I'd stand I'd focus on the camera on the
00:46:34
vacuum and then I'd go back to the vacuum move the vacuum out of shot and then we go yeah get a we this
00:46:39
instructional video on whatever and then we shoot the video and how many how many
00:46:43
howto videos do you think you end up doing in total oh I don't have no idea [ __ ] like they like a five over
00:46:52
500 of how to videos I think maybe oh my God so much every week I'm still yeah it's
00:47:01
made too much there's so much I'm sorry there's so much of me out there no no
00:47:05
you you did so well with it like when you when you why did you decide to go with the how to Dad thing like after the
00:47:10
first clip oh it's funny if you go back on the on your Facebook page now like
00:47:13
you can go into analytics and see what it was called or something we started with this as Dad we this me and my wife
00:47:19
like what should we call it cuz well cuz I'd done the how to hold a baby video so
00:47:25
how to this is Dad so we named it this is Dad and then the next morning I woke up I was like that's bad it's called
00:47:30
howto Dad and then everyone at John on bean cuz I told them I'd started this
00:47:33
video they're all go but what is it though like how to Dad or are you the like how to Dad are you the how to Dad
00:47:41
or is it how to I don't know you're thinking too much into it it's just
00:47:44
called how maybe that helped maybe that helped with it um but we just s yeah we'll call it how to Dad and I'll do an
00:47:50
instructional howto video every week and at this point you weren't thinking about
00:47:54
money either you were just doing it for [ __ ] no we're just doing yeah anyone start well when you think
00:48:00
back to us having our two days of viral Fame originally it was fun that was really cool like that was that was kind
00:48:05
of the stuff I went to study and wanted to be I kind of wanted to be in the Limelight when I thought I was going to
00:48:10
be Neil Walker so to be on Paul Holmes with my kid I'm like wow this is cool
00:48:14
and then putting makeup on me and stuff and you're getting emails and you're
00:48:17
getting phone calls and so yeah we started very organically let's just do it for fun classic Facebook page asking
00:48:26
every person that is a friend of you please go and like my page you know constantly like have you liked my page
00:48:32
yet and then Facebook does it for you have you liked how to did I was like my mom was just the one liking things at
00:48:37
the start and then that was start of 2016 and then middle of 2016 we had an email come through from
00:48:47
destination Ru they're like we want to give you a family trip to Rotorua and
00:48:53
we're going to pay you um $1,000 to make a video and put it on your how to Dad page and the page had
00:49:00
got I don't know maybe 20,000 followers on Facebook back then not a lot and me
00:49:06
and Jody I remember like jumping around the lounge right we had hit the lotto we
00:49:10
like holy [ __ ] this is amazing they want to pay us to go and like look we don't
00:49:15
you don't need to say Roa we just want you to have the visuals in the background so I did a video how to
00:49:19
travel how to travel with a baby and posted it and it just we've done a lot of videos before then you never know
00:49:27
which one's going to be good and it went nuts like absolutely nuts to this day
00:49:31
that agency or destination got the best gig possible how how many millions they oh million like this got over a month it
00:49:40
got over 20 million views on Facebook for ,000 ,000 and put us up in a hotel and got us a gondola
00:49:50
ticket but we were stoked and then so that blew me up again and then just in the same two weeks we did
00:49:57
the next weekend or two weeks after was how to put a baby to sleep and that was a piss take that I thought was the worst
00:50:02
video ever cuz my kid would never listen to me when I went to put her in her cart
00:50:05
she'd always jump around and I said [ __ ] that'll be funny and I'll go through all
00:50:09
these different and I walk in there to film it and I'm like get this how to put
00:50:13
a baby to sleep and she's how old is she she's probably just over a year and I
00:50:17
said sleep and she dropped and I laughed and so she took on and her head oh Dad finds that funny so here I am and I'm
00:50:23
doing all these dads I'm like oh the um the hypnotist dead and I go and sleep
00:50:28
and she just dropped and so every time I'd say or I'd look at her she just kept
00:50:32
dropping and so off camera I then crack up anyway I edited it together and I said I clearly remember saying to jod
00:50:40
this is going to be a flop like she didn't run around she just keep falling asleep and listening like it's terrible
00:50:44
she meant to run around being an idiot and you post it and it's still to this
00:50:48
day that's how it works the ones you think are [ __ ] blow up and the ones you
00:50:51
think are amazing flop and this one was another 20 million so in the space of a month I had like 40 million views on
00:50:57
Facebook and the gates just open from there like what it is is your emails emails when I say the gates it's emails
00:51:03
it's people trying to reach out to you and to this day it's still the same gig
00:51:07
99% of it is crap is weird offers is some Chinese wish.com company offering you 1 cent per 10,000 glow sticks you
00:51:16
can sell using this link like just it's a copy and paste email that's my life of
00:51:20
just receiving copy paste emails and then now and then you'll get things like
00:51:24
back then and New Zealand popped up into their email we'd like to do a video with
00:51:27
you and get you on a plane and shoot her how to fly with a baby and we did a few
00:51:32
gigs with them over the years we they took us to Singapore to promote that they fly to Singapore took my whole
00:51:36
family to China like that's just it just it went it went big real quick and it was like
00:51:44
this is awesome but at the same time I was working at John on and B at the most draining hard TV show you can work on um
00:51:51
that everyone knew like John on benu either you did you survived or you were just holding on for dear life
00:51:57
and uh I'd get home and then be doing stuff till like midnight and then go to
00:52:01
sleep wake up check emails again check the videos check the comments sections to see if anyone's trying to cancel me
00:52:07
not that we used that word back then but are you did you get a little parent shaming like oh you know you haven't
00:52:13
asked your baby's consent ah touchwood touchwood it's the weirdest thing you
00:52:18
hear about people like having hate and comments and all this I've gone n eight years now of doing this and
00:52:26
we have the nicest audience ever known to mankind on the entire internet My overall like thing on YouTube is 99.9%
00:52:35
that's when you do the thumbs up or thumbs down videos get 99.9% thumbs up like there'll be six that'll give it a
00:52:41
thumbs down the only time I've ever had ridicule badly is um how to wash a baby
00:52:47
in the sink and this was way back in the days well when I was still young and quite immature like this how to wash
00:52:52
baby in the sink don't waste water next time you're washing the dishes and she's
00:52:55
in her little bathers at tog but let's chuck her in there with the dishes and I
00:52:58
remember on purpose like she was safe but on purpose I plat here and like there was a pair of scissors and a knife
00:53:04
that I was washing so it looks like I've just chucked her in with dangerous [ __ ]
00:53:08
and I'm like look scrubbing brush is great for her hair and I gently do this
00:53:11
and it's cute stuff that we used to wash her and the Sinker and the the little
00:53:15
bath outside anyway and then there was some moms angry there you can't wash your baby in this sink yeah but you're
00:53:22
but you're antagonizing you're I'm taking all my videos are tongue and
00:53:25
cheek we the great thing is uh weirdly there's a lot of Americans to this day
00:53:31
that watch them and kind of don't get the humor so sometimes they just think
00:53:36
oh okay is that actually hurt you like an instruction whoa whoa whoa whoa I just I should put a disclaimer please
00:53:42
understand that this is I'm taking the piss with 99% of these videos that you
00:53:46
go back and look on I'm taking the piss it's tongue and cheek it's trying to
00:53:49
give you a laugh but some people are like they'll Google in a panic late at night you know how to put a baby to
00:53:53
sleep like my kid won't sleep and it's just this guy like the hypnotist and then they'll be tired
00:54:00
parents doing this trying to hypnotize their kid oh that's amazing [ __ ] did you
00:54:05
um [ __ ] it's hot in here Dom you've set up some amazing set mate you got three
00:54:09
cameras pointing at me you got two lights and I see you wafting yourself you got a fan here no thean at least
00:54:16
bloody get an air conditioning unit the fan goes on a higher speed but it starts
00:54:19
to make it like a clicking noise which is a bit offputting are we um can we pair on through or are you yeah no
00:54:24
you're fine no you keep you're not wearing your your green I want you to
00:54:28
keep that don't edit that out just calling them out it's staying in did you
00:54:31
did you because of the um the niche nature of what you were doing like it was all you know how to Parenting stuff
00:54:38
did you have to turn down any eye watering or mouthwatering brand deals cuz you could yeah back then I was real
00:54:44
stubborn on so this is 2016 2017 was like a flood of everyone wanting to work with us and that was a lot of work on
00:54:51
figuring out who you wanted to do stuff with and um we had this G from Australia
00:54:57
a hiking company with like a GPS unit for hiking and I remember being real staunch on I couldn't produce any video
00:55:05
that wasn't howto like I'm the howto guy howto dad everything has to fall under
00:55:09
howto I go sweet mate then what's kind of argument emails I'm like but what's
00:55:13
the what's your title what's the like what am I going to do with this GPS
00:55:16
thing I was I could maybe do like how not to lose the kid or something and like no no no it has to be how to go
00:55:22
hiking with the AC 3642 GPS unit and they had had good they were paying good money like the best money would have
00:55:29
been offered at that time and we turned them down and that yeah that's probably been you see
00:55:36
creators now accepting way too much stuff when you know they shouldn't be accepting that just for the dollar and I
00:55:42
think that was our best thing when we started off we were very staunch on that and we declined quite a bit and I think
00:55:47
that helped with the longevity at the start there of how to dead yeah that's
00:55:51
um it's admirable too because it is very very hard to turn down these things but
00:55:55
it's you know the I I slip in there early on because then I definitely gobbled up the hellofresh money and I
00:56:00
annoyed everyone with hellofresh for a year so I apologize about that um but it's delicious at the time it was a
00:56:06
delicious little gig God I got cash I got food but I had K I had like kids running up to me on the street oh well
00:56:12
mom look it's the hello fresh guy and I that's the moment I knew cuz I were like
00:56:16
Jordan we want to pay you again to be the ambassador for the second year in a row and I just and we my wife brings it
00:56:22
up constantly now imagine if you just taking that gig when finances are and if they ever go up and down or looking a
00:56:29
bit lower she's like men if you took that hello fresh gig and I was like I I
00:56:32
I have no regrets I'm happy I didn't carry on if it was rco or super cheap
00:56:36
auto or burnsco or these brands that I'm passionate about and kids were like oh
00:56:40
look it's the ripco guy about [ __ ] yeah I'm the rco guy but at the time I didn't
00:56:44
want to go down I'd worked too hard too many years to then just be known as the
00:56:48
hellofresh dude yeah oh good on you that's a that's when did the decision
00:56:52
come to leave your your day job that must have been terrifying what I stayed yeah I stayed at work a whole year
00:56:58
longer than what I should have and that was just me and my head going back and forth two kids you're like how can I
00:57:04
leave a steady income a weekly steady income to then go to wh hope we get an email coming through um so it was a year
00:57:13
of freaking out and then bit the bullet and did it and yeah it somehow has worked out
00:57:19
cuz was was Jody um working or was sheay was working Jody was the uh line producer on seven days so we weirdly oh
00:57:28
bro we've been joined we're like sies twins stuck at the HP um we're working
00:57:33
in the same building she was just above John on B so I'd see her at lunch breaks
00:57:37
and whenever then we'd go home be stuck together we flattered together we got
00:57:40
together at film school now she's works from home she's at home I'm at home
00:57:44
we're just live and breathe in each other's pockets all day long love her
00:57:47
though love you babe love you and like she you're um yeah do you have like filters you go through for your videos
00:57:53
like is she is she like the the final a checkpoint yeah 100% she won't be she
00:57:59
won't know what I'm doing she won't know what I'm writing she won't know what I'm
00:58:01
shooting but she'll she'll see 99% of anything before it goes out or yeah I'll
00:58:06
annoy her now it almost become she's like what do you want but just quickly watch this and she oh you can't do
00:58:13
that okay does she say that very often are there many bad calls no no cuz kind of kind of clicked on earlier
00:58:21
on when you started getting so we got our R to Gig right paid then New Zealand comes not getting paid and that was our
00:58:28
first thing like holy [ __ ] so I can be my own boss do my own stuff come up with my own
00:58:35
commical videos and get paid for this and that was when we started having the first discussions like well if this
00:58:41
keeps going we could like you could have your own job you're Your Own Boss um and
00:58:47
then it was early on it's good that I did that you click on that hey we're
00:58:51
getting these big new well-known New Zealand familyfriendly Brands keep your stuff family friendly and so we've stuck
00:58:58
to that so I've never really done anything to push the boundaries I'm not
00:59:01
looking to push the boundaries not a shock Jo you know I didn't have to be a
00:59:03
shock jock so just continue doing and that frame just familyfriendly stuff and it's worked out yeah even without
00:59:11
without knowing what you're doing you've you there were so many pivotal moments
00:59:15
where you made the right decision along the way right yeah I know and yeah I lying and saying you're a
00:59:20
landscapeing the to the Stick of stubbies and Bush shirt because people now I don't even realize that but
00:59:26
sticking to stubbies in a bush shirt that just help every week if you're scrolling you'd see the stubbies and be
00:59:31
like oh that's that guy again I didn't think I didn't think that through but
00:59:34
isn't that great it's like The Wiggles you know kids scrolling would stop cuz
00:59:38
they see The Wiggles colors are you going to be like Angus Young from ACDC though like he's he's in his 70s now
00:59:43
he's still got to wear the school uniform oh yeah oh bro there's been some
00:59:46
terrible times like some people be freaked out if they're watching this right now I'm not in subies and Bush it
00:59:51
one I think I saw I watched a few of your clips and saw that people looked quite hot in this room like we both are
00:59:56
now thought I don't want to be there in a bush shirt sweating away and two stubbies I've learned my lesson um I did
01:00:03
I got to interview Mark wallberg and Will Ferrell years ago in LA and I wore stubbies to it and 90% of the interview
01:00:09
topic was my tiny little shorts it's all they wanted to talk about so I've
01:00:12
learned that if you're in a podcast or a more serious chat don't wear stubbies
01:00:15
longer shorts longer shorts long short what was were you interviewing them as were you a cameraman or were you how to
01:00:20
d i was how to Dad oh [ __ ] oh bro we've had some Rand I we got an email from
01:00:25
like Fox um the first time we had crazy thing we the whole family got flown to New York
01:00:30
because we got an email that boss baby 2 was coming out and they said we'd like
01:00:33
to fly you and the family to New York also pay you also get you to walk the red carpet you don't have to do any
01:00:41
content this is the content we want you to do we're going back in the day now
01:00:44
2007 maybe we just want you to do a Facebook live stream I was like who watches Facebook live stream I didn't
01:00:49
even know that was a thing can you do a Facebook live stream from the red carpet
01:00:53
I'm like okay yep we'll sign up to this gig said we are stoked anything to do
01:00:57
with travel with the like the memory making travel stuff will do um so we got flown to New York and we were there for
01:01:04
like 5 days and for 1 minute 30 of that I live streamed from this red carpet and
01:01:08
you're pinching yourself at these opportunities that coming through like it's incredible who signed this off
01:01:12
that's a terrible terrible terrible idea oh it made like the New Zealand Herald
01:01:17
and it made some newspapers back here um all the cameras cuz oh yeah I brought this up to tie with the stubbies and
01:01:25
Bush shirt is when I went there it was three degrees and I come out in jandal stubbies and Bush shirt and I've got
01:01:33
Nala who's in the this little boss baby suit she's warm and we hit this carpet
01:01:36
all the cameras are on these celebrities and as soon as we came out they had no idea who we were but every camera is
01:01:41
just going nuts cuz like why is this guy in underwear Americans right they think
01:01:47
I'm in my underwear and a bush walking the red carpet um qu quirkiness s like
01:01:52
Steve ens sort of thing yeah it is yeah 100% it's the Steve irn wears the same
01:01:57
thing it's some slapstick where I haven't overthought it I just thought this is funny to commit to and I just
01:02:02
kept committing to it we went to we got flown to Singapore and that's 38° and
01:02:07
I'm trying to film content and a freaking fleece almost as warm as this anyone that wears them will know that
01:02:13
they are famous for wicking water and sweat away right like it doesn't absorb
01:02:18
like cotton you'll absor will absorb the sweat these things you just feel like
01:02:21
you are getting wet with a garden hose underneath and I've gone to shoot stuff
01:02:25
man and you take it off in public in between Tes and it's just like you can flick sweat off it cuz it Doesn't oh
01:02:31
it's not the if I could go back and reselect the uniform I may have changed the bushirt to maybe just a green I
01:02:38
would have changed it to a singlet to be honest I loveing singlets singlets are good how um you what yeah if it wasn't
01:02:45
for that initial video that you um oh wait wait I didn't tell the best part You' done they an email from hey do you
01:02:51
want to come and be an extra in the new movie Daddy's home 2 we'll fly you to
01:02:56
Boston for a week and you can come and be in the film set that that was the thing that
01:03:01
happened got flown to Boston met Mark wallberg Will Farrell Mel Gibson and John litho which is the dad from third
01:03:08
rck from the Sun was this after you did the junk interview this is after the junk so so the junk interview was for
01:03:13
Daddy's home no no no sorry this was after New York this was a few years later this was just me on my own no kids
01:03:19
got flown to Boston met all the famous celebrities was on set for 12 hours then 6 months later when the movie come out
01:03:26
they then flew me again on my own to La for a week to do the junk it with them and to promote the movie that way and if
01:03:32
you watch the movie and pause it at a certain point it's like my outer Focus no like
01:03:38
12 hours bro you get there and you pinch yourself for the first few seconds and then the actors come out and you pinch
01:03:43
yourself again like whoa then within 5 minutes you're used to it like oh they're just there they're going to be
01:03:48
bowling all day we have to pretend we're bowling in the background and then 12 hours of there
01:03:53
and you're just over within at 2 hours you want to go home M like I've I get it
01:03:57
now I've done it unless you're a real film nerd buff but I was like me and the
01:04:00
other they had other creators from around the world like six of us I was the australasian guy right and we're all
01:04:06
just going bro [ __ ] hell can we go like do you think we can go um and so you're there for 12 hours and it looks
01:04:13
like you're fully in the movie and then the movie comes out and it's just this
01:04:15
blurry shot of my sleeve in the background bowling and I can't even say kids that's your dad could be anyone why
01:04:22
why did they do that was it the hope that people with big followings are going to share it on their platforms or
01:04:27
yeah so we were part of it was we'll fly you over you'll make content out of it
01:04:31
so I did numerous like Vlogs about me being in Boston and being on the film set and it was just a series of content
01:04:37
that you'll punch out and yeah they just chose some big creators from each so
01:04:40
there was like it was this weird International superhero group Aaron crcll a lot of people know I met him he
01:04:47
was the UK one it's me from australasia as was an Indian guy there was an American Creator and two Spanish girls
01:04:54
and we were just up and told to act American and Bowl all day and I got told I was bowling too long so they gave me a
01:05:02
fake bowling ball de 12 hours man that's amazing it was rough but cool but rough and you did
01:05:08
um and you did a te talk as well that clip's got like 2.1 million views on YouTube and did you get a trip to
01:05:13
Amsterdam for something as well yeah yeah man what was the Amsterdam trip again again email so this is the thing I
01:05:21
sift her emails and sometimes his golden nuggets this was the email hi where from
01:05:26
from deppt d and advertising agency in Amsterdam we hold a festival every year and we'd like you to be our keynote
01:05:34
speaker I've never done key I had to Google what keynote meant I I've never
01:05:39
done any of them I was I don't know and they're like yeah we'll fly you to
01:05:41
Amsterdam um business class and you can come stay for 4 days all right so yeah flew to on my own flew to Amsterdam
01:05:49
phone called my wife I was vlogging and I've got i' been to Amsterdam when I was
01:05:53
young on my OE so you knew about the red district and I'm walking cuz now it's a
01:05:57
real tourist Hot Spot it's weird back in my day it was just excited Kentucky
01:06:03
teenagers and 20-year-olds now it's like families are walking through the red
01:06:06
light it was real weird vibe and I get a video call from my partner and I know the whole you can't film in there or
01:06:11
take photos and I think I'm on the outskirts like I've crossed a little bridge and I'm talking to my wife and
01:06:18
I'm like what's that and I look behind angry naked prostitute banging on
01:06:23
glass at us and like bab I'm definitely not in the red like yeah you don't mean to be filming she
01:06:31
think you were doing that she thought that I'm doing a classic she thinks I'm
01:06:34
doing a pretend I'm talking to someone and I'm fully fing her and it was was
01:06:38
awkward time it's it's strange Hey cuz when you think of Amsterdam you think of
01:06:42
like the um the legal cannabis and the red light district but the the the the weed cafes they they actually quite hard
01:06:48
to find and there's not many of them the red light district is Tiny it's a tiny
01:06:52
tiny more bikes so much more to Amsterdam I just love the bik got into the bike hole thing and then I got told
01:06:57
it's illegal to be on your phone it's a law over there you can't be on your
01:07:02
phone and cycle at the same time and I've got a huge Canon like one of these
01:07:05
on a tripod one hand riding my bike around like hello I'm in Amsterdam [ __ ] what a life what life
01:07:13
crazy opportunities yeah crazy opportunities well if you hadn't had um posted that first video just for shits
01:07:19
and giggles with Sam Smith what what do you think you'd be doing now still something in TV maybe like an executive
01:07:24
producer probably still be no I'm probably not old enough I'd still be in
01:07:27
TV either directing sketches or maybe producing but um yeah I think back to that now going
01:07:35
back into it and you're like because I've done it you're like so much work
01:07:40
they do amazing things people that make TV shows and I've got a lot of ideas Big
01:07:44
Ideas guy keep the TV show ideas in my head but just to find the time and the energy to pull trigger on them when
01:07:50
you're like I still need to make income to support our family we have a we've
01:07:54
bought a house we got a mortgage so I kind of need to keep the how to Dad train going until it can get to a point
01:08:00
where look back in the day I thought a million dollars meant sorry a million subscrib a million views when that first
01:08:06
video had a hold a baby had a million views I was like [ __ ] I'm a millionaire
01:08:11
a million views on YouTube You're A Millionaire that's how it works and then
01:08:14
the check comes through it was $950 like this is a Croc so it's much more work than everyone thinks although
01:08:22
unless you're a YouTuber that is making long form content and you have a subscribers you're fine you're making
01:08:27
really good Bang You're making great money I'm not that I make short little
01:08:31
videos so not a lot of ads can be put in them okay you what would you because that's the AdSense thing what would you
01:08:38
what would you make on an average month from that or is that confidential oh my like a couple of grand my oh my YouTube
01:08:45
yeah goes up and down but I think I fig I did I did the maths and over the lifetime of the channel divided by how
01:08:53
many years I've been going YouTube's paid me like 20 to 25k a year so you
01:08:57
can't live off that which is why I have my hands in so many little projects and
01:09:02
pockets and trying to come so speak at things you do branded gigs you get some money from Facebook you get some money
01:09:08
from YouTube you can have a video get 5050 million views on Instagram though there's no money Tik Tok there's no
01:09:13
money they don't monetize unless you're doing like live streams so I get a bit
01:09:17
yeah every month I get a bit from YouTube bit from Facebook and then I'll do branded content for that's when you
01:09:22
work with Brands right yeah like he in New Zealand when you with New Zealand or whatever
01:09:28
all the and try to do it in my style and my funny way so that I don't lose followers because they're rolling their
01:09:33
eyes at bro why are you doing branded content man there some people that just don't have that or just say they're yes
01:09:40
people they just freak out and they're like oh my God a brand yeah I'll just do
01:09:42
whatever and they completely changed their style of video they start reading a script and it feels like a TV
01:09:47
commercial where we fight and a lot of brands have hated working with me over the years cuz I just stuck to my guns
01:09:53
and well yeah clearly clear um but it's nice when you get to the point that you
01:09:58
can say no more than what you say yes you know if you're real desperate yeah
01:10:02
well this is the year I think everyone's feeling the pinch us included and definitely this is the year and they say
01:10:07
the advertising companies as we hear news channels are shutting down it's quiet in New Zealand and we're feeling
01:10:12
that it's quiet now like Brands reaching out so this is the year now where you're
01:10:16
like maybe we'll bend that rule a little but hey hello fresh you guys want to
01:10:20
come back oh there he is got do you want to cook a sweet couscous with a Mediterranean
01:10:30
mayonnaise fresh um yes your recent content it's it's quite funny how you're seeing the
01:10:38
like the the I don't know the progression or the development or the evolution or whatever you want to call
01:10:42
it um I really like it and I wonder if part of it is you part of it is maybe you running it out of like how to Dad
01:10:50
ideas and as part of it you just being more comfortable in your own skin and sort of dropping the Dr the front 100%
01:10:57
it's a big mix of that we never had a moment where me and Jody my wife were like let's stop putting the kids in them
01:11:02
or anything like that it's more been a natural progression of one I was stuck
01:11:06
to my guns about has to be how two ideas and once I dropped that like three years
01:11:10
ago I was like man this is my brain just went look at all the [ __ ] I can do now
01:11:14
this is way more fun instead of stressing that no it has to have how-to in it what can I do um so now I have
01:11:21
brain fired ideas that I shoot and I'm like are these and they work and they go
01:11:24
big and they can some go viral and you're like wow we're back in 2016 I think went viral the whole in New
01:11:29
Zealand knew about it now new now things go viral every single day like hundreds
01:11:35
of New Zealand creators right now have things going viral every week and you don't you don't hear about it something
01:11:40
we have 10 million views on Tik Tok right now and we aren't even talking about it we back in 2016 2017 2018 2019
01:11:47
still a really big deal to have a video had a couple million views like people knew like oh [ __ ] so I was lucky in a
01:11:52
sense if you talk about trying to be a creator right now and get cut through and get Brands to notice you I was lucky
01:11:59
back then cuz I was like the only at that time there weren't many of us who are well known I became quite well known
01:12:05
in that internet World quite fast so Brands were I'd hate to be starting now
01:12:09
I don't know what I'd do but yeah enjoying doing stuff outside of the how-to realm the kids are getting older
01:12:14
where it just gets to a point where now they're not a blob they're not a baby that's just easy to
01:12:20
hold in your arm and oh she's cry all right we'll leave her for a bit and
01:12:23
doing half an hour hey I got a funny idea do you want no I'm actually going out after school and I don't I don't
01:12:29
want to be in that one oh yeah cool and so now we've just almost stopped I don't
01:12:33
write anything that has the kids in it anymore like I think the the one that they love to do is quick feeds which is
01:12:38
US cooking in the kitchen as a family so I think that's the only thing although
01:12:43
i' have a tiny bit moment in some sketch rning the back of a kid's head but I
01:12:47
also have an 11-year-old which can blow people's minds um and I'm aware at her
01:12:53
age like what I was at 11 and we talked about this really early on I said I never want her to be I never want the
01:13:00
kids to be in revolving videos that are coming out every Monday that they go to school and straight away every kid's
01:13:04
like I saw you in that video like half of Mila's intermediate doesn't even know
01:13:08
that she's held a dad's daughter which is perfect which is fantastic yeah
01:13:12
that's great do they like it though yeah yeah yeah yeah like now like Mila's so
01:13:16
she's also at that age social media age now where she's aware that oh actually
01:13:21
is it is it cool like I think some people think you're cool so maybe I do want to be in your videos again I
01:13:27
remember I remember I mentioned something recently I was like oh we should do this you know how we play
01:13:31
yellow car like let's do a yellow car where we see them on the street and you
01:13:35
end up knocking me out like we're so committed to play the yellow car punching game and she's oh yeah yeah
01:13:40
yeah I'll be in it I'll be in it she's running at me I was in my head I just
01:13:43
noted that I was like look she's Keen ha it's quite cool but again we probably
01:13:47
won't put her in cuz I don't want to I don't want her getting that some parents
01:13:51
are fine with that yes we want our kids to be famous schli um we're not yeah
01:13:55
yeah um some of your recent content so there's a smashed oven a smashed oven
01:13:59
thing which uh was like a series so you doing like a a hit stand or some dancing
01:14:05
in the kitchen yeah and the oven's in the background now pardon me when I saw
01:14:10
like the oven definitely braks yeah yeah but part of me thinks okay Jordan's
01:14:14
doing this in a small space cuz this could potentially happen or something could break and it wouldn't be the worst
01:14:20
content in the world if that happened no I love I love the rumors out there that
01:14:23
it's a pre-plant it's not all I was doing robot dancing we dance a lot in
01:14:28
the house we're idiots I sing and dance all the time I was doing robot dancing
01:14:30
and Nala's like that's scary dad that's scary I'm like that ain't scary y I'm
01:14:35
going that ain't scary y I still got it cuz I'm like back I'm thinking back to
01:14:38
like school discos where me and my brother would get like a certificate the next day at assembly because we had the
01:14:43
best robot at disco and so she's gone away and only for vain for my own vanity that I'm filming
01:14:52
myself robot dancing to be like I'm pretty sure I still got it and I'm trying to do this robot [ __ ] and I get
01:14:57
into I'm being an idiot it's Beasty Boys it's great I'm gonna do my oneand
01:15:01
handstand and I go to do my oneand handstand and my heel Just Clips the handle of the oven door and explodes and
01:15:08
no that's not pre-planned at all how do you do it hurt like hell mate I had a
01:15:12
bruised heel no not not pre-planned but the fact that you're like well I'm going
01:15:16
to do this in a confined space if something breaks it it was our brand new kitchen
01:15:22
it's like no no we just had the kit that oven was 6 months delayed we cooked on a
01:15:27
barbecue 2 years ago outside the whole of winter cuz our oven had to come from flipping Europe or some there was a deal
01:15:34
with westing house and something fell through and the oven took we just had an oven gap for 6 months and we cooked on
01:15:38
the barbecue through winter so I did not want to break that oven bro 100% but instantly in my head as soon as it
01:15:44
happened I'm like that's great content it's 100% going on the internet and made
01:15:49
a bit of a story arc out of it and I didn't yeah and that's some stuff that
01:15:52
went big as well so good yeah there's another one I was watching last night like um an AI generated poem to your
01:15:58
wife so you're sitting on the beach reading a poem and then you yeah it's
01:16:01
bloody brilliant stuff when you do that and it and it I think this one's got
01:16:05
like only 25,000 views or something are you like are are you disappointed with that are
01:16:11
you scratching your head you don't look at those figures too much no I do I think you're I think you're a
01:16:15
bullshitter Creator if you say you don't we all do um you know you love things to
01:16:21
pop off and go nuts because you've you yeah everyone does and any work of life
01:16:25
you come up with a new idea at your work and you pitch it and it does well and you're getting pets on the back that
01:16:30
feels great you pitch your new idea and no one cares or no one even replies to you in the meeting or the email chain
01:16:37
you don't feel great so we love it when things pop off and um yeah I'll put my
01:16:42
heart and soul or sometimes heart and soul or just quick brain fart idea and I've shot in 10 minutes and it's up on
01:16:47
the Internet 20 minutes later either way I still want it to do well and yeah you'll get things that just don't at all
01:16:54
but you just keep I still enjoyed making it and you don't get I've been doing it too long
01:16:59
that you don't get too disheartened you're not like oh gosh I have to change
01:17:02
everything about me well I might have been back when I started and had things pop like [ __ ] I've done so you're more
01:17:08
relaxed about it yeah way more relaxed yeah yeah yeah I I'll have things often
01:17:12
not not go big and then you'll have things that'll just blow up like today
01:17:17
yeah re repurposing old content like I was saying you got this whole bat nine years of content and not even when
01:17:23
people come to Instagram they haven't seen all that old old stuff from 2016 2017 so I a lot of my time now is
01:17:30
repurposing and re-editing taking those old blurry videos trying to see if I can
01:17:35
make them vertical putting captions with them shorting them to the length of real
01:17:39
and so I'll do like two or three old videos a week in a mix of new content over that's my strategy at the moment on
01:17:45
Tik Tok and Instagram and it's working and no one's going oh I like to think no
01:17:49
one's going oh I've seen this because if it's from so long ago most people like
01:17:53
[ __ ] they'll watch it they're I remember this I love this one and I'm not getting
01:17:57
any comments going bro can you stop posting old stuff so I'm just going to keep on doing it and it's growing the
01:18:01
brand hugely I'm getting this whole new audience new engagement and what you
01:18:06
what else are you working on you you do lots of um piss takes of Wellness influences feels like you're channeling
01:18:11
art green yeah I feel bad cuz one day he commented I was like I'm 100% not channeling art I'm channeling all those
01:18:18
do do you know he's got he's got a great sense I know um we I know art well and
01:18:25
uh it's more there's a there's a Snapchat filter that puts like a bearded
01:18:29
beautiful face on you makes you slightly more chiseled and it's kind of me but a
01:18:33
better looking version and I did a video years ago about like my morning routine
01:18:37
it was just a piss take of all those Instagram people that love to share their morning routine and no one gives
01:18:42
two shits and so I did this video kind of taking the piss as a parent I like to try and do that and my kids kept ruining
01:18:48
it and it went huge so then I just had the idea man I love this filter and now we're getting I'm getting paid gift
01:18:55
so if a brand comes through and wants to work with us and maybe the idea is a bit
01:18:59
too I'm like no I don't want to talk about a blow dryer I don't blow drum oh
01:19:04
hang on my influencer friend will and so we'll go back and and then they get in
01:19:09
on the joke and they're like this is great and they sign it off and I'm getting paid now to be almost taking the
01:19:13
purse as an influencer like hi you know how I keep my hair so Lush and I've got
01:19:18
this filter on I put on this voice every day I use the Revlon blow to try a 3,000
01:19:23
so as a as a viewer you're like this Brand's cool for letting how a dad do this and you're
01:19:28
also chuckling along at the fact I'm taking the piss out of influences and that at the moment is working I
01:19:34
shouldn't have shared the secret but it's working and then we have the howto
01:19:36
stuff to work well I suppose what what the brands want is numbers don't they
01:19:40
yeah yeah even if it's someone's sort of taking the P something fresh and new and
01:19:43
it's working and that's cool and yeah I just keep on pumping out brain fart
01:19:47
content ideas that come in my head and do them each week we got the podcast and we got the
01:19:52
jandal yeah we get to okay yeah yeah the golden jandals um so you're like a 20% stakeholder in the company yes maybe
01:20:02
you've done some I don't even know where you get that research from Dom yeah um
01:20:06
yeah other podcasts you've been on and just read everything I could so I what I love about these jandals is
01:20:12
it's like um oh of course like it makes perfect sense but no one thought of it I
01:20:17
know that's our argument is how is no one ever ever ever done this but then the quiers they're all greedy money
01:20:23
making not caring about the jandal brands yeah but the cost of doing it like a bigger plug is but the problem is
01:20:30
they last longer so they want that's the thing they they know all these Brands I
01:20:35
won't name them the Brazilian ones they know that their plug right pops off or
01:20:40
that they gets a split and it doesn't last long they 100% know that but there's no one here in New Zealand
01:20:44
fighting for them and going let's change let's sit down and change the design we
01:20:49
need to do something about that and that was so I got um hey mate have you got a
01:20:53
business idea and I'm like yeah yeah a bloody jandle that doesn't blow out
01:20:56
let's like and we in a little room talking like why don't we put the bread
01:21:01
tag on the bottom and that's all and we've just we all just you want yeah
01:21:05
hold hold it up to the camera for the people that are watching this not listening so that's a classic New
01:21:09
Zealand fix is to clip a bread tag on yeah yeah yeah and so we yeah we made the whole thing big in bread tag shape
01:21:16
it's shape science a giant Square can't pull through the hole so we go out on
01:21:19
the street and we like here's 100 bucks mate if you can pull that out and we got
01:21:23
these big guys trying to pop it out and you can't pull it out I was going to ask
01:21:26
you about those those yeah cuz you have done so much great you what you don't
01:21:29
believe those videos as well well I thought there must be a lot lot of off Cuts we no there's no off Cuts I'll give
01:21:35
you this one right now but I'm also cuz what happens is it'll it'll stretch no
01:21:40
you going to do it now I can live home pull that out of there no pull no I'm giveing you like a
01:21:48
no go are you want me to give it a go so do you think it's fake no it's not coming out does but
01:21:55
what you've done is stretched that a bit Yeah but if someone's really strong the Sha but end up snapping no
01:22:01
man you don't have the muscle now my fingers smell at your feet you you said it yeah got terrible
01:22:09
athletes but sorry so has that been has that been quite lucrative no not at all no I'm learning again I'm not a mature
01:22:16
businessman and I'm learning that businesses uh any money that you make gets ped back in oh so we need to do a
01:22:21
bigger order because we want to go into Australia now so we need stock for Australia yeah on this you want to go
01:22:25
into America so all the money we made now is getting more stock to go to America or tweaking the design or so
01:22:31
it's one of those things that one day we'll sell it and then we'll clip the
01:22:33
ticket but right now we're still very much a new brand and still trying to grow yeah definitely a startup but it's
01:22:39
given you like an um I don't know I was going to say it's giving you like an
01:22:43
outlet to do some more content but I feel I feel like whatever you're doing you'll just figure a way to do content
01:22:47
around it yeah I do content for yeah I do content for Golden and it's G including an unofficial uh world record
01:22:53
for 100 Sprint oh yeah I was meant to come in here with my running stats for your OG listeners from back in your
01:22:58
running days I ran my first half marathon a few years ago hour 45 M [ __ ] that's good 5 minute for 104 kilogram
01:23:05
guy um got the World Record for fastest J that's 100 meters and 13. 66 I think it was was it no no and
01:23:15
then I re then I bat it again 133 or 13.4 wa cuz the first one you it was a false start you only ran 80 m not
01:23:22
100 in jandal yeah and I heard Nick Gil talking about Bronco tests that's on
01:23:28
I've just after listening to the podcast this is how I remind myself of videos I
01:23:31
email myself ideas constantly so as I was listening to that one I've emailed
01:23:35
myself Bronco test because I'm like I think I can take some of these records
01:23:39
from these all blacks I did in jandal a 5 minute 30 in jandal Bronco test that beats some All Blacks some All Blacks
01:23:47
don't hit 5 minutes 30 yeah and 13 minutes for 100 m is not a not a Shabby time 30 seconds mate 13 minutes that's
01:23:53
terrible you the 13 seconds yeah be your pardon 13 seconds for 100 m it's it's
01:23:57
it's not a bad time yeah and jandal so world's fastest jandal mate golden great
01:24:02
are you mentioned um the or blacks yeah what was the work you did with Kieran Reed you did a thing with him oh that
01:24:08
wasn't really official work that was there was just me instagramming him and
01:24:11
being like hey bro I just had a I did a miniseries called how to sport just off my own ideas um and we filmed with
01:24:17
Sophie Pasco Dame Valerie Adams Kieran Reed was one of them um and he had just had spinal surgery this is back a few
01:24:24
years and I he's like yeah don't don't ask the crusaders Don't Ask the all
01:24:28
black just come down and we'll shoot it and so I need him to tackle me hard though and it kept looking real soft I
01:24:33
said can you please take me harder man and he went hard I felt it and then I just so imagine if I'm the guy that puts
01:24:38
his new fused spine out um but that was awesome I'd never met him he just knew
01:24:43
me from social media said yeah come down and then afterwards he's like what are
01:24:46
you up to bro I I got to go to the plane it takes off in a few hours he oh should
01:24:51
we go to Burger field first I like oh acting real cool oh yeah man and then I'm just in he's paying for my
01:24:56
thing and I'm like holy [ __ ] I'm having lunch with All Black's Captain he he's
01:25:00
amazing he was one of the earlys on the podcast I love that guy so much and he's
01:25:04
10 whatever test he's played like one of the most um yeah capped all black captains of all time and he's just the
01:25:10
nicest guy you could ever made he's a legend he's a legend that's so cool oh
01:25:14
and um was he in the the black Clash when you played Cricket no was he in the black I don't think he was in it that
01:25:20
year but I yeah I he wasn't in that year I became mate to Brad Weber there and
01:25:24
met a few of those other famous faces that was again another pinch yourself thing I replied back initially black
01:25:30
Clash for no one that knows as a celebrity cricket game and I get an email hi Jordan would' love you to play
01:25:35
in the black clash and I wrote back I've never played Cricket in my life asked
01:25:38
someone else and like no you'll be fine it'll be funny I all right and I
01:25:43
remember trying to I did one day of trying to bowl at Papa more College um thinking I was doing good thinking I was
01:25:51
doing okay and then you go to this training day the day before the event we all go and
01:25:56
do lawn bows and meet each other and get have a few beers and then you hit the Nets the next day and Steven fling comes
01:26:01
up to me and goes he sees with me ball have you had should have you got a dodgy shoulder
01:26:09
like no M my shoulder's bloody great he's like well see when your arm comes
01:26:13
over you should be rubbing your ear he's like can you do that and my shoulder
01:26:18
couldn't really like you you look like Muller or the guys that do the Crazy Balls Out to the side you need to work
01:26:25
on that so here I am now like nervous here I am just for a laugh but now I'm
01:26:29
nervous as [ __ ] M really competitive oh especially the rugby boys the cricket guys love it but much more relaxed the
01:26:37
rugby Lads come and they are turned on so we we go out to lawn balls we have a few too many beers and the next day is
01:26:44
the cricket morning is the session in the Nets at 11:00 a.m. 9ine let's say 11
01:26:49
out of 12 rugby stars for the rugby team showed up to the net session three cricketers showed up
01:26:55
they all B just just chill oh we had a few beers we'll chill out so I was one
01:26:59
of them and and then that TR me fliming Nath McCullum was there and they're trying to teach me how to bowl and then
01:27:05
I get out there of the night to play I'm just [ __ ] myself man like Fielding I
01:27:09
don't know where to be and I'm I'm going to get killed man if one of these balls
01:27:12
comes at me then I had to Bow one over so I took the p and went all the way back to the boundary line for a Big R I
01:27:19
like this would be funny did my and do one and he only got one off it and I was I'll Bowl proper now but the thing is
01:27:27
I'd never bowled with an Umpire standing there and I couldn't see if you've never
01:27:30
played Cricket in your life it's really hard to figure out where the line is so
01:27:34
I'm just freaking out that my foot's going to go over if you watch the footage I'm bowling from like 2 meters
01:27:39
back from where I should be and I get hit for like a six and a six and then Jimmy nisham tries to say I bould a wide
01:27:45
the Umpire so I start trying to fight him for a bit of a laugh but out of it I got hit for 19 the worst of the night
01:27:52
some guy got hit for 26 so like I didn't do too bad you're not the worst I would
01:27:56
have been yeah I would have been [ __ ] myself I was [ __ ] myself the the potential for humiliation and I
01:28:02
was more that I was also more scared of injury like I'm what's called in the
01:28:07
slips I'm right behind where the is the because flaming goes don't worry son
01:28:11
come with me I'll look after you he's like come stand there and I look at him
01:28:14
and I'm like shaking my head but you're taking the per se I think this is one of
01:28:18
the most dangerous places to be I don't have the reaction speed if a ball came
01:28:21
at me off a neck of a bat I was going to be did bro but it was awesome I wore stubbies um doco asked me so many times
01:28:28
to please not play in your stubbies I played in stubbies just to keep a little bit of the brand there and uh then went
01:28:34
and had a bit of a few drinks in the changing rooms with everyone and what goes in there stays in there mate it was
01:28:39
a great night yeah I good on you for saying yes to that it would have been easier to say no but you'd miss out on a
01:28:44
fantastic opportunity I've have this weird confidence where don't lie I've
01:28:48
EMA myself I've emailed myself Bronco test cuz for some reason in my head I think I can beat bow and Barett isn't he
01:28:57
like the best ever of bronos 4 minutes 13 yeah I'm like think I can do it cuz
01:29:03
in his head he's like I can't get injured I can't go to nuts because I've
01:29:08
got a whole day of training this week I don't have that I put it all on the line
01:29:12
for Glory to be able to say I bit bur and Barett I have the New Zealand record for the Bronco tear that would be
01:29:16
amazing imagine that would be so cool so there'll be a few videos coming out of
01:29:20
there no one cares right this is the stupid content so this is stuff that excites me no one's going to Care people
01:29:25
don't even know what that is but I'll film it I'll post it and I'll love it
01:29:28
yeah well I suppose yeah that's got a met to a point doesn't it you got to be
01:29:32
passionate about it yourself yeah what about kids can you so you you did a massive massive fundraiser for kids can
01:29:37
earlier this year but you've been you've been an ambassador for seven years how
01:29:40
did that relationship come about uh I was already doing stuff for them a little bits just post here and there but
01:29:46
at the same time for lots of Charities and then you kind of realize that this doesn't work I can't be begging my
01:29:53
audience to to help this charity and then the next week be saying oh and please help this charity and this please
01:29:58
help this charity so I was like kids canan's the one that kind of means the most to me as a dad with kids and
01:30:03
growing up in a poorer kind of town to Coter not that well off and um yeah signed I said hey can I be an ambassador
01:30:11
can I be your Ambassador they're like no you can be an ambassador I was like yeah
01:30:15
all good so at the time they had like Mike McRoberts on the books and some other bigger I was just nothing and uh
01:30:21
just started to do content for them whenever they had a camp like a winter appeal or they just flick me an email
01:30:26
and we' work on some ideas and you get it out and it was just years of getting
01:30:30
annoyed that you couldn't reach through the computer and slap people in the face
01:30:33
and be like you realize this is a New Zealand one and four kids is struggling with nothing and so I had the idea for a
01:30:39
long time about trying to do something bigger and like get a radio station on board and that's where that hand ball
01:30:43
competition came yeah so you did like a 24-hour handball thing with um John on John the full circle and um yeah yeah
01:30:51
it's full circle It's amazing And you high water yeah [ __ ] you raised um yeah
01:30:56
like 435k half a mil yeah which is incredible it's really cool and you um oh you auctioned off your YouTube plaque
01:31:02
as well auction of my YouTube plaque which I've just been informed by kidan that the person that said they were
01:31:07
going to buy it has fallen through and not paid so they're like we're going to
01:31:11
post it back to you okay so so we got it for another time to auction off what other YouTube plaques have you got do
01:31:17
you get like a 100,000 one you get a 100,000 and you get a silver 100,000 one and then you get a gold 1 million one
01:31:24
which again back in 2017 to get the 1 million gold run was huge now it feels like everyone's getting them not I'm not
01:31:30
saying you're all New Zealand creators a lot of people aren't even on the YouTube
01:31:33
game yeah but anyone that plugs into the fact that if you just start posting all
01:31:36
your Tik toks to shorts you'll make no money cuz shorts doesn't pay anything
01:31:40
like I said before a million views right might get me a grand I could get 10 million views on a short which is a
01:31:46
vertical video it'll pay me a dollar like for some reason YouTube hasn't
01:31:51
figured out how to monetize shorts properly yeah that's serously what it pays you get 10 million views and you
01:31:55
get paid a dollar $2 it's outrageous it's nuts and they're playing ads
01:32:00
there's ads playing for your video I don't who's who's getting the money just
01:32:04
YouTube yeah wow um and what what's the future going to bring you're just going
01:32:09
to keep keep doing this just keep do you do you are are you like a goal Setter or
01:32:13
a planner or you just sort of follow where things go uh very much follow where things go not too much oh weed
01:32:18
you're right so far the biggest scariest thing we have planned like you said I
01:32:21
did that Ted Talk which again very out of my depth and just said yes to it but didn't enjoy the process I used to be
01:32:28
good at speeches and now I think you got so many eyes on you and quite self-aware
01:32:34
of how you are presented and that and of just thrown into something I wasn't
01:32:37
comfortable with did it but inally did this people wouldn't even know but if
01:32:42
you watch it but I'm just freaking out inside I'm screaming like I am just
01:32:45
hating it like people can see your heart people can see your heart beaing through
01:32:48
your chest I remember thinking I was having a heart attack as I did that Ted talk I'm not even like the auditorium
01:32:53
wasn't even that big but I was just fully cuz you just understand how big a TED Talk is it was a Ted X talk which is
01:32:58
the next tear down um but again my immaturity show through with that like I didn't do a deep and
01:33:04
meaningful tedex talk that you meant to do I kind of just talked about what we've talked about but of my journey and
01:33:09
how I've winged it um and you get a few comments in that tedic saying exactly
01:33:13
that like what did that guy teach us but I talk about that people say why don't
01:33:18
you get into Keynotes and all that and I'm I'm figuring that out right now
01:33:23
because I talked to the between two bear guys and like mate your story is incredible and I don't see that and I I
01:33:29
started writing one and my kind of opening line was look I'm not a sports person I haven't faced massive adversity
01:33:36
like I haven't gone through domestic violence there's nothing like this right
01:33:40
I'm an internet guy who's done this and to be honest you've also slightly got to
01:33:44
have your head up your own ass if you want to be one of us keynote speakers so you could say I'm just to hit up your
01:33:48
own ass internet guy here's my chat and then give it but that's my thing I'm
01:33:51
uncomfortable with being putting my hand up to be like yeah I'll be your speaker
01:33:56
because I'm like what's my story it's kind of how I I yeah I don't
01:34:01
know I I feel like that's a small town when you come from a small town I think
01:34:04
it is it's really drill there's always going to be someone that's going to pull
01:34:07
you down and tell you you're and my own family are like that like I'm surrounded
01:34:11
by that so it's something I haven't matured out of or I need to get more
01:34:15
comfortable in my own skin about that about your success I don't like talking
01:34:19
about here I am you've just heard me go on about success for an hour but I don't
01:34:23
like I don't lean to it be like you can all learn something from me in my story
01:34:27
I don't feel that at all I feel like I'm a really lucky guy who's made some lucky
01:34:31
decisions and I'm making it work I do not have a blue book a Bible a manual I
01:34:36
could give someone and be like you can go be successful now I'm very lucky yeah
01:34:41
although it's like the the luck hard work excess as well it's like you worked
01:34:45
[ __ ] hard there have been some lucky breaks along the way but also a lot of hard work and a lot of grinding yeah
01:34:51
yeah yeah yeah and we've also let you say What's the only future plan we've
01:34:54
got is it's always been in my back pocket and it's kind of just pulling the
01:34:58
Band-Aid off and do it because they say if you're not if it doesn't make you
01:35:01
nervous you don't have enough skin in the game so we want to do a tour at some
01:35:05
point like a how a deadli tour like a comedy tour and go cuz it'll be bigger
01:35:10
in other countries than what it is here everyone's used to me now here but if I
01:35:14
showed up to America and did a small tour in just a state you'd be there'd be
01:35:19
enough wz like what you mean that kiwi guys here so that's a plan it's a it's
01:35:23
in the longterm plan of I've started writing a 1 hour show [ __ ] that's
01:35:27
amazing that's so cool and and on top of that you've got um you know from an
01:35:31
outsider's perspective it seems like um you know your private life's going
01:35:34
really well like you you've got this girl that you met on Polytech at 18 and
01:35:38
you're still together now three kids yeah we figured out we've been together
01:35:42
over half our lives now and we're still no that's all good yep three kids I'm
01:35:48
like any other parent though just pulling your hair out or happy times and yelling and freaking out and figuring it
01:35:53
out yeah is she is she is she proud of you it's quite funny cuz you you marry
01:35:57
someone and you never know how they're going to change or the person they're
01:36:00
going to if they're going to grow into the person they can be or if they're
01:36:03
just going to sort of stay the same um but like what's happened to you is a twist and turn that neither of you could
01:36:08
have expected you know she's awesome she's definitely the cheesy line that
01:36:12
but she's the rock she's the glue that keeps the whole house together because I
01:36:15
can be very all over the place depending on what's going on freaking out cuz I'm
01:36:19
you know kind of the bread winner um and if something Falls over I'm like freak
01:36:23
straight to freak out a little bit like [ __ ] what do we do here what do we do there but she's always the one like no
01:36:29
we're all good you're good we're good um dayto day can be eye rolls when you're
01:36:33
trying to film something idiotic or show her an idiotic video we'll be like what
01:36:36
do you think about this idiotic but if you ask her deep down she's like she's
01:36:40
stoked on how it's all gone yeah and what about you proud of yourself yes Dom I'm not comfortable
01:36:46
with those kind of questions no it's it's funny I think it's a kiwi thing
01:36:49
it's like we don't allow ourselves to I think some people are fine with that
01:36:53
stuff no you'd have to be yep kiwi boy has over 5 million followers and has made it
01:36:58
into a full-time job there's your headline yeah I am proud you're there he
01:37:03
said it with very little sincerity no but you you what about your dad like ill farmer ill farmer from a rural town if
01:37:12
if I sat dad down and we crack up about this just the era and the generation he's from but if I set dad right down
01:37:18
right now real seriously and just said Dad I've done all this C can you you say you're proud of
01:37:24
me you'd be like PR that'd be it that'd be it yeah yes yes suppos so yeah yeah you're done all
01:37:34
right like that's that's dad and you can kind of laugh about it but that's
01:37:38
probably also part of me not having that conf like yes very confident person when you see me but
01:37:44
behind the scenes not having that confidence like if I had PE growing up if everyone around me was like [ __ ] yeah
01:37:49
go for it go for it I would have done soldout comedy shows back in should have been doing them in 2016 2017 when I
01:37:55
first come out like that could have been the real big thing but they scare the [ __ ] out of me and I don't think I'm
01:38:00
going to be good at them and that's getting through that now yeah I I do think that's a smalltown New Zealand
01:38:05
thing you just don't allow yourself to think as big as what you possibly could
01:38:08
no we're Americans every single American no matter where you're from they
01:38:11
constantly think like that they are the best people at whatever they do in the world and they go for it and that's why
01:38:15
we get freaked out when they come over here and they're so in our face and loud
01:38:19
and proud and confident cuz we're like we're not there yeah we're just we're
01:38:22
not we're not going to like backing ourselves or pitching ourselves he um I don't know hey but this has been so much
01:38:28
fun today so much fun sweety but so much fun sweet lucky you're not wearing the
01:38:32
green sh pretty fun one of my eyes is looking at your phone which has the time up con I'm like if I get out now I'll
01:38:37
just beat the afternoon Orland traffic all right we'll get you on the road yeah
01:38:40
it's H 20 to2 on a on a on Thursday afternoon on a Thursday should be right I think 2:00 it started to show it was
01:38:46
going to jam up so we should be all right yeah hey mate I'm so pleased we finally made this happen I'm so pleased
01:38:51
uh everything's going well for you anyone that's still watching or listening get into golden jandal golden
01:38:57
jandal mate here's golden.com or listen to the other podcast the parenting hangover it's bloody great you guys do a
01:39:03
fantastic job it's good partnership yourself and Clint Roberts and I will send you my nft account and you can
01:39:08
transfer the payment for this podcast mate what was it we agreed on 10 grand that's I'll give you a share of the um
01:39:15
the the YouTube Revenue the AdSense money oh no you save it mate you get yourself an eon pump Jesus Jordan Watson
01:39:21
how a dead thanks mate cheers bro for