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It was in the height of the Ford versus Holden time. It was in, you know, incredible time to be racing in this in
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supercars. He was a top four driver and I was one of many competitive Holden drivers and it was red versus blue. The
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fans were incredibly passionate. We were passionate about our jobs and what we were representing. Just two BS aiming
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for the same bit of road and not willing to really give each other the room they
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we deserve in a pretty precarious position on the racetrack as well. >> Do you think conflict like that is
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missing from the sport now? >> Yep, I do. I don't think you want to have monster shunts like that very
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frequently, but we want close battles and we want drivers to not necessarily always like each other. I was in a very
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competitive period with lots of personalities, lots of egos. We didn't go out of our way to see eye to eye or
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be friendly or matey. Listen, there was there was probably a lot of putting up with each other at times and we went in
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and out of rivalry depending on what was going on as well and what you were involved in and what happened on the
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track. There was a lot of stuff that was happening on the track and it did define
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how you left the track on