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hi healthy Kelsey welcome to my podcast hello it's nice to it's my first podcast
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oh yeah you said that to me when we were messaging yesterday I found that I found
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that difficult to believe like have you been asked to go on any no I've never
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been asked to go on a podcast oh well but I listen to lots of podcasts I'm a
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real podcast do you what are you into what's your is it like cooking s of ones
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or True Crime literally no not true crime I'm a bit scared of True Crime literally anything like I like just dumb
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pop cultur ones and then I like you know health and wellness and L when I was in
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London I listened to like like three a day you're traveling so much around yeah
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it's a phenomenal platform like it allows you to have conversations with people that no other sort of media space
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allows and I love about it yeah yeah yeah that is cool eh yeah and like usually I don't think I can pay
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attention you know like listening to something for two hours but I actually like go for a walk and I'm like this is
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actually really entertaining yeah hey first things first I I I need to ask um what age were you
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when the the metro station song Kelsey came oh my yeah didn't [ __ ] up your
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childhood big no I reckon it was cool at every party it's still my party truck
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I'm like put on metro station um was I like 11 12 yeah I think so my my parents
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loved that song as well a great s we're debating songs for our Widing at the
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moment and I'm like should we do that one walk down the aisle to Metro station
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G is there so your fiance is called Andrew is it is there an Andrew song I don't know I don't know is catchy um and
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the funny thing is about that Metro station song is you're you're um you're
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a swimmer yeah so that was quite fitting as you can swim the ocean for yourself I
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know that was what was quite funny I remember that coming out in intermediate and people being like oh this is like a
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song for you cuz you swim yeah that's a great song and um another another question going back to your school years
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um so your surname is boock boock yeah character building name at school weirdly so I get ask this all the time
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and this is another thing I'm debating like planning a wedding I always was like can't wait to get rid of that name
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and now I'm like I love buok I'm like I can't not be a buck it's a real debate
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I'm having but surprisingly no like but I think no kid no kid gets um out of
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school unscathed like I had I had uh condom doic um Harvey Farms chicken which was a bit of a lame one hary
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Norman you know just anything you didn't you didn't get um yeah poock I don't
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know I spilled in like year three I spilled blue dye on the floor and I got blue [ __ ] for a
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while nobody want What's um what's what's Andrew's name his last name trimbath trimbath
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yeah but we talk about so we talk about combining them we can do boo bath bath [ __ ] or trim
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[ __ ] I know I don't think any of those are takers yeah that's um you you we'll
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get we'll get Andrew later on I just want to go through your your entire the
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entire healthy Kelsey story like how healthy Kelsey was born how this came about because I think um uh what you've
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done with your your hustle I think um it's inspiring to a a lot of people would want to do what you've done um so
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I want to know how much of it was luck and how much of it was just hard grind and hustle um but we'll get to Andrew
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and how you guys met but yeah first of all let's talk about the swimming and stuff so you were
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you were a swimmer swimmer growing up really good too like one of New Zealand's best back strok yeah yeah did
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research when did you when did you start oh oh I lived in Fiji as a kid so when I
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was 9 um we all moved to fij as a family and kind of the only sport there I was always mom said I was always quite good
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at swimming anyway even from really young age but that was pretty much the only sport people did like it was a real
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social thing like on a Friday night you'd go swim and the parents would drink and like You' hang out so Fiji was
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where it kind of all started and I kind of started getting quite good I was maybe swimming like three times a week
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then when I was like nine so where where abouts in Fiji like like formal swimming
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like swimming in pools or yeah yeah yeah like there was Oney oh the there was a swim 25 M um
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swimming pool that you'd go train at yeah yeah I just want a clarification cuz I men like out in
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dinner din just doing some extra so why why did you so you're from New Zealand yes yeah why did your family
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move to Fiji that's random Dad I know so my dad did roading so a lot of they did
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a lot of roading stuff in Fiji and then I think my actually though I think my parents just wanted to live somewhere
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else there was talk of Canada for a while and they're like I think we just want to have a bit a couple years of a
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bit of an adventure and do something different who who else in the family are the siblings um I have an older brother
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and a younger brother right so everyone moved over yeah yeah well we were five eight and 10 we didn't leave the little
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one what was um what do you what are your Recollections of that time in Fiji I actually remember it really well
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because I think because it was a real different year you know like a lot of when you're a kid that kind of all
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mushes into one but I think Fiji stands out because it was so different but I loved it we went to an international
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school that's where I started swimming so it was quite a big you know point in
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my life I still have one of my close friends from when I was 10 in Fiji I caught up within Europe last week and we
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spent two weeks together traveling around so like definitely still in touch with you know all the people and things
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like that which is really cool amazing well wasn't um unsettling like leaving
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leaving a school going to a new school I was pretty chill I think I was a pretty
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chill kid I probably would have been happy to do anything like especially me and my little brother were very yeah
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yeah sure it's it's funny when you're a kid CU something like that it's a it's a
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massive mess of upheaval and um I feel like kids are quite resilient yeah as an sounds fun
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let's go I imagine my parents would have been quite a stressful like time being
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like we're going to move here and we're just like all right sounds good yeah so
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then you you moved back to New Zealand yeah you finished your school here yeah so I think it was when
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my older brother started intermediate cuz obviously schooling hair is better so they wanted him to start um
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intermediate in New Zealand um and then yeah did you learn much Fijian while you
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were over there we did I'm saying now terrible but we did we did I think lessons a couple times a week at school
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yeah so you know more than b and my dad my dad taught me how to order a beer for
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him so I knew know how to order a beer what do they call it Fiji baby Fiji better um oh that's cool and then so you
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um so you're at school and then um then you went to summer camp that was straight after school no so that
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was um once I quit swimming so I swam all the way up till uh and then I went to UNI as well um so
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I did swimming pretty much through all of that and then it was towards the end of uni that I really decided I didn't
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want to swim anymore it was actually quite a so you were like 20 21 yeah what just swimming is
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um I reckon it's one of the like mentally one of the toughest Sports to train for so hard backstroke at least
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you're looking at the ceiling the sky the why did you gravitate towards backstroke I don't know I was just
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always good at it I think I just I honestly I think a massive I liked swimming but a massive part as to why I
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liked swimming was cuz I I just liked winning so I was yeah so I was like I'll
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just and then backst yeah I was always good at backstroke even from when I was young so I think it just stuck and what
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s of trainings involved at the competive like morning two double sessions yeah so
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I think I was um from the age of probably like 14 I was doing maybe 10 swim sessions a week and and
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then a couple gems yeah which is a little but I loved it for a really long time which is cool it's it's a lot the
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way cuz and you you got to start at a young age really don't you so so the you
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got these kids doing these um like double double sessions and hard for the parents my parents I'm like my God you
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guys are great what time were they dropping you to the pool in the morning I think we'd start at 5:30 and we lived
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out in the country back then so Dad would do mornings mom would do afternoons and my little brother also
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swam um which made it a little bit easier but yeah he we' be getting up at quarter to 5 from really young age my
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dad liked it though he got to drop me off he'd go to the gym hang out with me
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before I went to school like he said he actually quite enjoyed the time in the morning so yeah well I mean you kids
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it's good for like installing discipline and people and yes that's what I think
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now I like to think of the positives yeah I mean you there's a lot of sort of
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transfera bles that you get out of it but it's um it's a lot and you think
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about how many how many people around the country are doing that every morning like like young kids and how many of
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them are going to end up being the next um you know not many yeah yeah that's
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the thing so do most people just end up sort of dropping off the swimming yeah so I was probably one of the last of my
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friends to stop most people probably around like 15 16 17 just life gets in the way yeah like you you realize that
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there's probably a bit more going on out in the world yeah is it a combination of
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you realize there's more going on in the world and also you're not going to make
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it to the Olympics yes yes I think that's what I when I was quitting I went through a I actually went through
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probably six months of like really I it randomly switched it was like I suddenly
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don't like this anymore and I i' always liked it and I was always the swimming
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girl at school like she was going to go to the Olympics and so when I decided I didn't like it anymore I just thought oh
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but I have to keep doing it cuz I'm good at it and this is what I do and and my I
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remember my parents being like you're so miserable like just stop doing it and I
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it's like but I'm good at it like I would cry in my goggles like most days
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like just be swimming crying and like like how what am I doing how do you how do you cry when you're doing backst
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tears are just puddling in your eyes yeah just filling up the goggles so that was yeah that was like a weird time and
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it was so funny cuz when I actually decided no I'm actually going to stop I didn't feel sad at all I was like relief
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like like a weight off your shoulders yeah like I was like I feel great about this idea which you so you were you were
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like a reasonably young age to come to that realization that you didn't want to
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swim anymore but there there's got to be a lot of people like of all sorts of
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Ages that have that same sort of thing where you you do something and you're
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sort of defined by it yeah so so give giving it up you feel like you're giving
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up part of yourself yeah like and I think it's a a crazy thing especially because it's people that are usually so
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young it's like and I could only imagine what it will be like like would be like
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if you are the best in the world or if you're you know an Olympic gold medalist
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like stopping then must be so hard because you're probably I like you're
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obviously going to have amazing highs in your life and but at the time I think you think like it's not going to feel
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better than this like yeah yeah yeah that's a I mean I um I've had I've had
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HS of amazing people on the podcast but R about this time last year I had Kindra
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coxy John who's one of the black fans oh yeah yeah so she had just recently won
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um the the women's Rugby World Cup and that was the the last game of her career
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right so she was sitting here and I mean a years passed since then and I see her
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on Instagram all the time and she's still tied up in the rugby Community but
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she was like I could tell that she was so fearful of that it is it must be if it's your whole identity and you've done
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the best thing you could possibly do in your thing it must be like what am I going to do and like I guess I felt that
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to an extent because it was you know at the time it did feel like the most important thing even though it was like
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now I look back I'm like oh my gosh yeah yeah yeah I mean you're doing bigger and
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big things now sh the hours you you sp the pool that way and you think like oh my God I hope it's not a waste like if I
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just wasted all everyone's time and my own time and seems I think it I think it
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was in a way and it seems like you had really good parents like you you know your dad I've never met the guy I don't
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know anything about the guy but he sounds really positive saying he enjoyed the experience and G most positive I
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think the most positive person I've ever come across my dad he's had a pretty
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tough year he's had a bunch of different things he's like really healthy fit dude
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like he comes with me to Pilates in the morning into the gym and stuff but no like he broke his
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leg he's a real good skier first day of ski season skis all day walks to the car
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breaks his leg walk into the car spping so he's just like [ __ ] but he's
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like you know what like whatever like he's so positive about every single situation and like if something knocks
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him down he's always like n we're not doing that and just does everything he
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can to make to make it better which is really it's a great role model it sounds
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like you're really lucky and also you mentioned before I don't know if it was
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your dad or your mom or both but them saying Kelsey the swimming's making you
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miserable give it up yeah not being like you know I imagine some there was a lot
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of you know those Dance Mom yeah you've come this far yeah keep going Commonwealth Games TOS are only 18
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months away they were like no you cry in your goggles I don't how how how good were you like do
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you think you could have made like Commonwealth Games or Olympics or that's hard to say hard to say like I got
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glandel fever when I was quitting I was on that path I guess from a young age like I made teams when I was young but
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it's so tricky when you get older I don't know I don't know if I was ever I
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think I was good in New Zealand but I don't think I was good enough in the world you know yeah yeah that's a whole
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different activity yeah well well I suppose when you get to that level you have like different sort of goals or
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expectations like there's some people that go to the Olympics and anything less than a mdal is a disappointment
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there's people that just making that's what I and my that's all I and that's what I came to turns with I
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was like all I'm going to do I was qualifying then I still have to go and I still have to swim and I don't want to
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swim like I'm crying in my [ __ ] dog like I don't want to swim anymore and I
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think but what I actually loved about it a lot was going on the trips like overseas cuz in high school I got to go
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on all these epic overseas trips and like skip school and go all these fun things and then when I left school I was
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like I can just do that like I don't actually have to go now with swimming I
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can just go and have fun yeah and I guess um even though it's a fa lonely and individual sport the be like in the
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the swim squads quite a good sort of community yeah like my best friends pretty much swimming S I did a lot of s
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life saving I met Andrew through swimming so it's yeah massive still lots of my best friends from there which is
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really yeah oh was Andrew swimmer as well yeah yeah so that's how we met we both made a New Zealand team to go to
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France and then that was when I was 17 it's a really long time ago yeah around
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26 yeah only 10 years how old say same age oh one year old oh yeah yeah yeah so you wow First Love
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for both of you yeah pretty much which is you have like little little two months here yeah yeah got my heart
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broken you gave me that half love oh that's called was it Love at First Sight with Andrew or it's so hard
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to say when you're a teenager we were really good friends for a while but I was always like I always definitely had
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a crush on him I think from forever and then he lived in denan so I was a bit like was studying down there no he
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lived in Den so he's from he's from Christ church and then lived in denan um
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so I was like I don't really I'm like 18 I can't have a boyfriend who was in
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dened that's not that practical um and then he ended up moving up to Orland to
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swim so yeah and he just hasn't hasn't gone what's it's amazing that you you
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you st together and you're when are you getting married by the way uh hopefully
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well yeah next summer right so FIB next 2 cuz the changes you go through like as
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a as a person um from 17 to mid 20s you're a completely different person this is what I say like and I'm I think
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it's really lucky that we've grown up in the same direction like a lot of our
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friends who were together back then you know like you kind of grow up and you kind of Go in different ways but I feel
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like we're closer now than even back then which is really cool we just have really have the same I guess mindset on
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things we want and yeah stuff like that well what does he do does he have his own stuff going on or is he part of um
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part of the so he's a part of not really he your [ __ ] I mean yeah he's actually
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super so he's in construction he's a project manager um but he's actually
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starting his own business this year and he's also kind of the numbers and he's
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the numbers Guy and um second nature of the protein so he um is a lot more like Logistics stuff that I'm just like I
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don't want I don't want to do that oh that's cool that's cool I mean you have
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your strength so yes and that's what I think like that's I think that's
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actually why we can work together is because he's really good at something I'm really good at something and we
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can't really argue because we know that each person is way better at the other
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thing so there's not that many arguments yet so we just started okay so so you
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meet him did you go to university before summer camp yeah okay so you you go to university and what what do you do like
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a business degree yeah did business which is funny that I'm like blah with numbers because I have a business degree
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yeah so what um what what did you want to do what when you started a business degree were you just like killing time
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before you decided what you wanted to do or did you think you wanted to do something in business or what I thought
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I wanted to do like fashion maybe like be a buyer or something to do with clothes but I wasn't ever super
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passionate I think that's something I really struggled with in high school was
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like a lot of my friends were like I'm going to do this and I'm going to do
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this and so like into it and I was a bit like I don't really I think that's why
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quitting swimming was a big thing too because I was like I feel like I don't
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have any else that I'm passionate about um it's it's terrifying at that age so
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and there's so much pressure for like 18yearold to be like what are you going
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to do forever and it's like what you don't have to decide what you're going
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to do forever no and then and then and oh God it panics you when there's other people
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that have like this Clear Vision of what they want to do and you're like I don't
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I don't have any idea yeah no clue and then that's when I think when yeah I had a bit of a identity
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crisis at like 21 when lockdown happened cuz we were meant to go traveling and then it was like what am I but what am I
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meant to do with my life like I I'm not good at well the thing is I'm not good
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at anything which is so silly to say now I know that I'm good at stuff but in the
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moment I genuinely was like I remember saying to my mom like but I'm not good
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at anything how am I meant to do anything and she was like what yeah that's but that that is true but
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everyone everyone sucks at everything when they first do when Ed shiran first picked up a Guitar I'm sure he was
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[ __ ] [ __ ] at videos of him like actually sucking singing yeah but you need to you I I've I've just started
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embracing failure and the importance of failure the last couple of years no one is good at anything when they start yeah
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yeah and that's the thing you're not just going to find your thing and then
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be like this is well some people do but it's pretty a bit of natural talent but
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the thing is if you've got natural talent and you don't work hard you're
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going to be beaten by the hard workers exactly it's way important so so you get
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your business degree yeah and then you're you're an executive assistant at
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Silverdale Asset Management oh that's my dad's business all right so not really okay so what was
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your job after so I why didn't actually have much time because I so I finished
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my degree then I did Camp America that was when I went and worked at summer camp and then I came back and then I
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just had like jobs throughout uni you know like working I worked at R and gun for a bit and I just worked you know
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like in Little retail jobs because that's kind of what I thought I was going to go into and then came back from
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camp and then like a few months later lockdown happened and the big plan was to go traveling and that didn't OB
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viously go to plan right okay lockdown we'll get into that shortly because that's sort of the birth of where we're
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at now healthy Kelsey which is amazing and I think there's a lot of people that
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would be curious how you did it um first yeah summer camp where was summer camp so it was in Maine why yeah why summer
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camp that's a random I just had a few friends who had done it I just qu swimming I was like I feel like I need
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to go somewhere but Andrew was still swimming at the time I think and I was like oh maybe I should just do this
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thing like you can go meet lots of cool people and I was a water SK instructor which was super fun I got to go water
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skin quite a bit and made like best friends like St some of my best friends um at the moment I met at Camp um yeah
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and then I thought it's just an easy way to kind of go traveling without spending
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too much money like actually I guess you make you make money a little bit not much and your your your s name in brand
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as healthy Kelsey now what what was it like at a American Camp unhealthy unhealthy KY hot dogs yeah it was hot
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dogs and lots of gluten that's where I went vegetarian because I was like I can't I can't eat this food it was so
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bad and I think I didn't real I was really lucky as a kid my mom was really into like healthy food and feeding us
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really good food and I didn't think I put to into two together of like if you
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eat crap I was like I'm going to feel like crap and so for three months I literally that cuz all there was was
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sugar and yeah hot dog processed heavily processed food American food and orange
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so bad my stomach was so messed up it was not yeah and that's kind of why I started making food when I got home
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because I was like I just can't eat this yeah so were you always quite have you
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always been been quite healthy and disciplined like with the swimming and you know the nutrition side never I've
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actually never been like disciplined with like healthy food I've been pretty
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I guess it's lucky because I grew up with it so it seemed like normal it didn't feel like I had to cut things out
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I just always ate quite like Whole Food my mom was really into like Whole Foods and she'd make come home from school and
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they'd be you know fresh food made and she was amazing like that um but yeah I
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I actually I think so naturally I was but I was never passionate about her or anything I never showed much interest
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actually into cooking as a kid either what what about the like the varsity years were you were you like much of a
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puss them no cuz I was swimming of course 53 starts yeah you couldn't really
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parents dream as a swimmer they not getting up to any this is what I mean saying that like surfly s was pretty you
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did there was a few big parties but the only big parties are like after Nationals so you're only going to have
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one massive blowout a year really you know like it's not cuz you are training
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all the time and that's what I say any any like my cousins now are at the age
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and I'm like just get them into a sport and then they'll probably be sweet there
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was my parents thing as well they like especially with young boys like if they're in sport
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that you know where they are they're around I was going to say and they're
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around other cool kids like yeah yeah it's healthy it's a healthy healthy
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Kelsey habit yes oh so um so so you have some by the way it's like all the obstacles with you and your now fiance
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um you know just looking back you know him and den you're in America and stuff
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like the fact that you've remained through all that it's it's um something
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special I think really I know it's pretty crazy we think that now we're like oh yeah I don't know I honestly
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don't know how cuz people say that like how did you go get past like Teenage
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crap cuz like there's so many like Teenage relationships some most of the time you know are just a bit drammer I
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like yeah I don't know how we ended up just staying together it must have just
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really liked each other yeah I know I know know okay so so lockdown so lockdown starts when was that 2020 that was 2020
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right yeah like March 2020 yeah so you and Andrew were planning on going overseas just to do your OE yeah so we
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were like let's go we actually had in a Paul we were going to do the Anapa Trail
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in Napal which we still haven't done I really want to do it um and then 4 days
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before I think we were me to go that was when lockdown happened so it was like oh
00:24:10
no oh no what am I going to do I don't want to because the whole plan you know
00:24:14
go on my OE OE and I don't have to be an adult quite yet I'll just drag that out
00:24:18
for as long as I can well also I suppose in your in your defense um like you being a swimmer you make a lot of
00:24:25
sacrifices so I suppose you had some catching up to delived up um so then so then how do you how do you feel at that
00:24:32
point like can you take us back to that moment like are you sort of like what the [ __ ] that was when I was like I had
00:24:37
my big I'm not good at anything speech and I was like I genuinely don't know
00:24:43
what I'm going to do I'm going to have to you know get a real job and be an
00:24:47
adult but I was like I don't want to do just something I really would like to be
00:24:50
passionate about something and then I kind of let myself be a bit me for a couple days and I was like okay we're
00:24:57
done we're done done with that we need to sort something out and so throughout
00:25:00
we went up to Mom and Dad's place up North for the lockdown and I was like okay in this time I'm going to find
00:25:06
something that I love doing and actually before that I started to get into making
00:25:13
food because from the summer camp food I was just like coming home to be I was like I need to come home and make some
00:25:19
real food so I did actually get quite into cooking and making recipes and then that was when I was like oh maybe I'll
00:25:25
set up an Instagram just to like share recipes I didn't even think that was people's jobs
00:25:31
like I I remember being like this would just be for fun and cuz yeah I just didn't honestly didn't cross my mind
00:25:38
that it could be someone's job um and then I remember having like different business ideas every single day I'd like
00:25:45
go into dad's room and be like I've got a new idea this is the one this is the
00:25:49
idea and he's like okay and I just remember like yelling out different things and then what can
00:25:55
you remember what some of them were I one of them was like a porridge car Caravan cuz I was really into porridge
00:25:59
at the time and I was like I'm going to do make a porridge I know and then another one I can't remember maybe like
00:26:05
oh selling raw slices cuz I was quite into making raw slices which is a good idea it's just it's a very I was like I
00:26:10
think I might get sick of making raw slices all the time if I do that um and then after kind of I was scrolling on
00:26:19
Instagram and I found other food blogs and I was like oh this is people's jobs
00:26:22
like people actually make food as a living and that's so cool so I was like maybe maybe I'll write like an ebook
00:26:29
that I could sell online and then that could be I don't know something at least
00:26:33
to keep me occupied for the you know month however long we were locked down for yeah so I ended up writing a eBook
00:26:40
throughout that first lockdown and then I showed it to Dad and he was like this is so cool like you should send this to
00:26:47
Publishers and I was like yeah okay like I don't think that's how it works dad
00:26:52
but then it is because that's how it ended up happening the smart I was like
00:26:57
okay who who's your who's your publisher who are you with bitman baitman okay
00:27:01
yeah and so I sent them an ebook and I had like 800 followers and they were like yeah come write a book I was like
00:27:08
that that is that is remarkable like it never happens I don't think it ever happens to anyone I mean if say nar Al
00:27:14
Lim or Chelsea or you know Simon you're already coming off like something yeah
00:27:20
yeah yeah yeah yeah I literally had nothing I didn't even have a following or but they must have seen something I
00:27:26
don't know yeah what do you think it is you had that chat with your Publishers
00:27:28
what was it that they saw on you what do they like about it yeah actually maybe I
00:27:31
should I'm catch up with them next week maybe I should ask that I don't know
00:27:34
they were just like she's going to be able to sell a book I suppose which I was just like and write one I was like
00:27:40
how am I GNA I don't actually because I was so excited about it and then I was
00:27:42
like oh [ __ ] I don't know how to write a book but obviously figured it out
00:27:46
somehow so how many books have you done now so my second one is coming out in early Jane yeah oh good for you yeah so
00:27:55
yeah pattern my ignorance here but like so how do you how do you make up make up
00:27:58
a recipe honestly when I first started doing it I was kind of just like better of this and a better of that which I
00:28:04
still kind of do actually but now I guess I've got the system down you know I know that a cake needs a certain
00:28:09
amount of wet to dry and after I test it a couple times it usually tends to work
00:28:15
out a couple recipes don't and then I just get frustrated because not not being not being like a a a cook or a
00:28:20
bacon myself I I would have thought that every imaginable recipe has already been
00:28:24
done yeah well that is kind of the thing you're not really like Reinventing yeah you're not making up
00:28:29
crazy things but it's kind of fun to make at the beginning I thought it was really fun because I was making like a
00:28:36
normal Brownie and turning it into like a slightly healthier version of the brownie so that's quite fun to do cuz at
00:28:42
least I'm like you know changing things and doing it for a reason and it's a bit
00:28:46
more fun to put together I suppose but yeah yeah it was weird at the beginning I was like I don't really know what I'm
00:28:52
doing so okay so this is interesting this is really surprising about the bookz I would have thought the book deal
00:28:58
would come much later on but the Publishers would it makes more sense doesn't it to have a cookbook deal yeah
00:29:04
not really the correct order of I know doing things but it's um so unorthodox
00:29:07
so yeah so is it just your normal Instagram page and you rename it healthy no I started a whole different one and
00:29:14
called it healthy Kelsey so I was like oh this is going to be my little side thing but now I don't even go on my I
00:29:19
haven't posted my S one for a really long time you've got so many what are
00:29:22
you going there to many Instagram accounts to run 300 300,000 followers or something yeah yeah
00:29:28
was there like a moment where there was like exponential growth or did it just slowly over summer last year actually
00:29:34
Instagram's a bit of a weird one like it it goes flat and then I'll get like
00:29:39
100,000 followers and then it will just stop for six months and then I'll get I
00:29:43
think it's from reals now reals you expose yourself to a lot more people that aren't your followers um and you
00:29:50
know Instagram now if you even just scroll on your main feed a lot of the people you aren't actually following
00:29:54
anyway so there is that which is good but it's also kind of bad at the same time because then if you follow someone
00:30:00
you actually sometimes don't see anything of what they're doing the reason I follow you did you did you um
00:30:07
have like a good understanding of social media or do you have like a social media
00:30:10
person now or no it's still all me and I've actually started up another page
00:30:15
for the protein at the moment and it's it's a lot of social media ring I'm like
00:30:20
feel like I'm doing too much social media at the moment but it's good it's
00:30:23
like quite fun to grow and I feel like my page I don't know if I'd ever get someone else to do it just
00:30:32
because I feel like it's me some of the authenticity which is tricky because
00:30:38
that's obviously something I'm just going to be doing forever but I love
00:30:40
doing it still so that's good maybe have to cross that bridge one day if I don't
00:30:44
mind doing it and who who who are your enemies have you got beef with two Ro sisters you I actually don't know them
00:30:51
Ros and but yeah they seem lovely we should be friends is it a is it a competitive space at all or not really I
00:30:58
mean not really there's not I feel like in New Zealand there's just which
00:31:01
actually maybe makes it more competitive because there's not that many of us but
00:31:05
no I'm like good friends and like Polly and like people who have other books I'm
00:31:09
like Instagram friends with so I end up chatting to and Sophie who does like raw
00:31:12
and free right she was actually EP epic at the beginning she helped me a lot so feel like it's more like a nice little
00:31:19
each other on quite I've only been doing the podcast thing like about 18 20 months now and it's it's a really really
00:31:25
um supportive and inclusive Community like no one's like you ask someone for
00:31:29
help or tips no one's like [ __ ] off mate yeah like no I'm doing my thing yeah
00:31:34
which like yeah like I feel like in New Zealand there's such a small amount of
00:31:38
people that kind of do this thing that it is quite cool to like support each other and 100% 100% everyone's trying to
00:31:43
navigate their own way so so when did you so it started as like a hobby during lockdown um at what point do you go you
00:31:50
know what this could this could be my thing yeah I actually from the beginning I think I was actually when but the
00:31:56
thing is is when I signed to write the books like books you actually don't make
00:32:01
make money off cookbooks like a little bit but you're not making enough you know to live your life I've written um
00:32:08
I've written three books um and uh the the advant you get a horrible little advance and then uh you have to you
00:32:15
spend months and months two years writing something and you get like the worst hour it's not yet my Publishers
00:32:21
told me they've got a theory that um um cookbooks and sports books are the two
00:32:24
that sell the most uh cookbooks um get sold and used um Sports books gets um sold given as presents and never read
00:32:32
yeah or put on like the coffee table Yeah Yeah dad here's a Richie m co yeah we'll look at some photos yeah
00:32:41
so was was that sort of the moment where you thought I this yeah I was kind of like what's going to be like in Wiles
00:32:46
that's going to be cool and I kind of thought it was going to change way my life way more than it did at the time
00:32:53
you know like sometimes you think I don't know you work towards something and you think there one moment and then
00:32:57
you'll be good like I it was like that with getting 10,000 Instagram followers
00:33:00
I was like I just want 10,000 so for a whole year I was like I just want 10,000 and I get to 10,000 I'm like okay my
00:33:07
nothing has CH Chang that much happier yeah like it's fine it's funny that day
00:33:13
I think um that must just be the human psyche like you you everyone wants to have that moment that you think is going
00:33:18
to bring you exponential growth yeah that's people do with money people do it
00:33:22
with everything I think and it's a I think it takes you realizing a goal like
00:33:28
that and then I'm going to be happy and reaching it and being like huh I mean no
00:33:34
it's like when you're when you reach the top of the mountain you got to just
00:33:36
climb Another Mountain exactly which is the the cool part of it I think it's
00:33:41
always having swimming actually feel like has taught me a lot of that is that you can set goals some you set goals you
00:33:47
know and you train and you train and you train and then you're not going to reach
00:33:50
them for two years so you are doing this thing that's so hard and but you're not
00:33:54
actually going to reach your goal for another two years so I think I think it's delayed gratification yeah which I
00:33:59
think is quite a rare thing to have of being like so if I do this now in 2 years this is going to be epic like oh
00:34:07
yeah patience no one's got that patience anymore that is a that is a really good
00:34:10
takeway from those yeah yeah yeah I think that sorry for saying takeaway yeah do you do you like do do you eat
00:34:19
takeaways we do we have lots of takeaways we do Thai and Indian lots of good there's a really good one near us
00:34:25
um big ticker has really good Indian we get yeah it's good Indian there good
00:34:30
local tie Pizza sometimes have you you ever been spotted by like a fan or a follower when you're when you're buying
00:34:37
unhealthy food or not really I'm pretty like to be fair it's called like healthy
00:34:42
Kelsey but it's actually like I guess healthy now I'm kind of like I maybe
00:34:46
shouldn't have used that word but chly stuck yeah exactly that's what I think
00:34:49
it's just fun but like actually like healthy as an a balanced thing like you
00:34:54
got to have hot chips and you got to have all these things I think to be healthy you know in my
00:35:00
brain yeah well it makes sense okay so so the Instagram starts growing you have the book deal then what um that was when
00:35:08
I went to Barley actually right yeah so we as soon as the borders open again you're gone actually the borders didn't
00:35:15
really open they were kind of other countries were but not us so I was kind of like H if we can go so we did the two
00:35:22
weeks quarantine when we came home here I was like if we can I just was so desperate to go somewhere like I was
00:35:30
like I just need a change of environment I need and I was like if we can't travel
00:35:34
travel like let's just go live somewhere a bit different like I I love B we've
00:35:39
grown up going to Indonesia a lot um as kids and I was just like I feel like I really need to just do something
00:35:45
different so we did it and it was actually so funny like for I I feel like I traveled quite a bit as like a
00:35:52
teenager and that it was actually quite nerve-wracking going on the plane I think cuz of the whole Co thing it was
00:35:57
like oh my gosh this is scary and then we had to do quarantine when we got to Indonesia once we got to Barley it was
00:36:05
just epic we had the best time and then coming home we did the two weeks here um
00:36:11
and that's when my book actually was released yeah so you yeah so two weeks quarantine when you got to Bary just in
00:36:16
a hotel there or in actually yeah just in a hotel how did you find that you would you I feel like you're the sort of
00:36:22
person that would have been good at keeping busy you're not just like watching Netflix show well see we
00:36:26
thought we were going to be those people we were like okay let's get up and we'll
00:36:29
do workout and then we got our little outside time we were like sick and then we would like do some work and then it
00:36:36
would prob and be like 11 and we're like oh no so I'm pretty sure we watched all
00:36:42
Marvel movies in chronological order in the two weeks we were just like what else do you do what else are we going to
00:36:49
do we're like oh well we might as well so we tried to be productive but honestly there's so much so much day
00:36:54
when you're just sitting in a room I didn't yeah I mean you it's not like you
00:36:57
could do any sort of um cooking or baking of any note in a in a hotel room but I suppose I just sort of imagined
00:37:03
you getting up early and just watching YouTube clips about how to make how to become even more awesome all day just
00:37:11
all day no stopping so uh what did you do in B honestly we just well that was what was
00:37:19
I doing oh that was when I created my app um so I had this idea to create a cooking app it was just easy to have all
00:37:25
of the recipes in one you know spot made it easy for everyone so I was kind of developing that which meant making a lot
00:37:32
of recipes um that was the first time Andrew had never really he just had time off work which he didn't really know
00:37:39
what to do with himself he kept like messaging people at home like give me some work and they're like no no no you
00:37:43
meant to be enjoying yourself so he did find that he found that quite hard but um it was really fun I like looked back
00:37:49
and I'm like that was one of the coolest things we did um I would happily live in
00:37:54
Bary again oh it's great isn't it and it's so cheap when once you get over
00:37:57
there so cheap I think we spent uh so we spent less money in six months than we did in one month in the states which is
00:38:05
just mad amazing and so where do you where do you begin with creating your own app yeah that was I had this idea
00:38:12
this is kind of what I do with the most things I'm like that's a cool idea but
00:38:15
I'm like that sounds quite hard I don't know how I'm going to be able to do that
00:38:20
so I just started I think I actually just Googled like app developers and then just emailed some and had meetings
00:38:26
with some to be like how do I create this and can you create this and this is my idea and then it ended up sticking
00:38:32
with one developer they just seemed like they definitely knew what they were talking about and just really nice
00:38:38
people as well to work with um and then they pretty much just do all the tech side of stuff and I upload it and make
00:38:47
it look really nice so it's quite a good combo amazing and what's um for anyone
00:38:52
that's that that isn't doesn't have your app or isn't on it is it like a
00:38:55
subscription thing pay few bucks a month or yeah I wanted to make it really affordable I actually can't of remember
00:39:00
what it is now but it's really only a few bucks I think it's maybe like $150 a
00:39:04
week or something it's um nothing crazy and what do you get for that just a whole heap of recipes yeah I think
00:39:11
there's like 400 500 recipes now on there yeah and then just like little blog posts and it's just a like an easy
00:39:19
way to have recipes available to you I suppose and do you do right out of that financially yeah yeah like it's quite a
00:39:25
good I haven't done I haven't marketed it and promoted it as much lately just
00:39:30
because I've had so much else going on but I would like to go back and um look
00:39:35
at you know actually making it CU if I put the next steps into it could actually be quite a big thing but I I
00:39:42
kind of like it just being a thing that yeah yeah so how do you like how do you make most of your money where does most
00:39:49
honestly a big it's really diverse around so I think being I guess quote unquote influencer you definitely don't
00:39:58
just want to have that as a source of income which is like quite a like probably one of the you've got an eyeing
00:40:06
amount of followers yeah so like I can charge quite a lot for um posts and reals and stuff you have to turn turn
00:40:12
much stuff down like I'd imagine there's some brands that have got a lot of money
00:40:15
like say watties tomato sauce think that's going to fit me with my 50,00,000 followers I don't have to
00:40:22
turn anyone down I I can do it pleas I'll take it you want me to promote your
00:40:27
Vape pins count me hand them over I'm guessing you have to be sort of likef yeah it has to be on brand yeah which
00:40:35
some stuff Andrew's like like beer or something he's like yes give me the
00:40:40
beer we can make this we I'm sure we can so is that the main the main sort of
00:40:46
yeah and then obviously the app and then now we have the protein powder as well so it's kind of all I'm trying to think
00:40:52
if there's anything else I think that's all um yeah yeah so kind of a Spread spread out sorry for
00:40:59
being so nosy about the money stuff but I'm just it interesting I'm in trade
00:41:03
because you like it's been say what is it now three and a half years three and
00:41:07
a half years since you you launched this and it's become you've turned yourself
00:41:10
into into a [ __ ] brand yeah like a big brand and it's it's like everyone
00:41:15
remembers I think I think the thing with lockdown is people can Tim stamp it and
00:41:19
people can remember exactly how for me too to talk about it and it seems like you've done so much in that time does it
00:41:25
feel for you like things have gone fast or does it feel like it's been quite
00:41:28
sort of slow slower than what You' like probably more not slower than what I
00:41:32
like I think it has probably gone fast especially when I look back but it's quite funny looking back that feels like
00:41:38
so long ago cuz I feel like I don't even know if I've changed that much but it
00:41:41
feels like so much has changed in the last few years that it does feel like so long ago but then also cuz like I
00:41:49
couldn't even imagine not having the healthy Kelsey thing now like it it would be so weird to go back to not
00:41:54
having that cuz it's like all I think about all day so like what was taking up
00:41:58
my brain before that you think get to the point where you like you know we talked before about
00:42:05
you crying into your goggles you're crying into the pots yeah just like I maybe I'll talk to you in 10 years
00:42:11
I'll be doing that yeah do are you much of a goal Setter or a planner or do you
00:42:15
just sort of like like sort of bumble along and think oh I'll do an app now yeah I actually like I like to think I'm
00:42:21
a goal sitter and a planner but I don't oh I do sometimes write things down and
00:42:26
is really good like that he's like you should write things down and journal and
00:42:29
he's very on to with that loves reading like books like that and stuff um so I
00:42:34
do I do think about a lot of things in the future and but honestly most things have come to be like the protein powder
00:42:41
I was like oh so I have this idea and then in a month we had the first testings and the packaging and like so
00:42:48
it does happen quite quickly once I'm like yes this is what we should do but I
00:42:52
do think about it for quite a long time to be like oh I don't know I don't know
00:42:57
and then make the right decision that kind of feels right yeah you youve mentioned the protein powder a couple of
00:43:01
times and actually you gave me like a gift pack when you arrived with the protein powder and which um I I will not
00:43:08
use because this podcast ISS nutrition this is what Andrew said Andrew is a big fan of your podcast he
00:43:13
listens to it all the time and he goes you can't give Dom that he's sponsored on and on to it I'll
00:43:23
definitely try but so why did why like where do you start with some like that yeah that's a thing which amazes me
00:43:28
about you it's like you have this idea and then you make it happen whereas a
00:43:30
lot of people have this idea and just not know where to start and just yeah it is I never know where to start that's
00:43:36
what I so who I was talking I was talking um to Ben who's our he does our all of our packaging and stuff he's he's
00:43:43
amazing at the packaging looks so cool and he did he was doing a Rebrand of healthy caly and I was telling him about
00:43:49
I get asked what protein powder do you use I reckon 100 times a day on Instagram and I was like this seems like
00:43:56
something I should do and at the time I was like I'd love to just do a collab
00:44:00
with an already established company so that it's easy for me I don't really
00:44:04
have to do much other than go this is the flavor this is the Taste I'd want and then he was like I just think you
00:44:10
should do it yourself and I was like that's a that's a great idea but I don't
00:44:15
know how to do that how am I meant to do that he was like oh I have this friend who could probably help you like with
00:44:21
sourcing and maybe like putting it together cuz head set up head done packaging for protein before and he was
00:44:28
like yeah we could probably help you put it together and I was like well I mean okay and then I was talking to my dad
00:44:35
about it and he was like I think if you're going to do it Andrew needs to be
00:44:38
involved because you are going to hate the numbers part of the business because that's a known fact that I really don't
00:44:46
like doing that part of it yeah and you and you're defense it's like and I hope
00:44:51
you're okay with not being good at everything because it's like you're I
00:44:54
mean you're the you're the face of this brand that you've created you've got
00:44:57
your strengths and and then and then it's a lot of like doing everything it's
00:45:01
probably it's usually not going to work like you need to find someone who's
00:45:05
really good at something and if you you yeah like I know that I'm probably not
00:45:09
good at that plus I don't enjoy it mainly but then the people that are good at that are they going to be good at you
00:45:15
know taking amazing looking photos out of Instagram making things look nice and selling something um yeah so I like to I
00:45:22
used to say like Andrew is all the smart Parts but I'm like no that's not true I
00:45:26
also do smart things I do smart things to him that's smart too um so it was really good like
00:45:35
when once we started talking about it because he sets up all the spreadsheets and the you know accounting software and
00:45:41
stuff like that that I'm just like yeah no I don't want to do that so and even
00:45:45
just like using tools to organize things and like he sets up meetings for us every week to talk about what we're
00:45:51
going to do with the brand and where we're going to go and how much money we
00:45:54
need for this so like it's really cool having yeah different parts in the company but yeah I don't know how it was
00:46:00
created like honestly I remember talking about it last summer and then now it's
00:46:04
actually gone out to it went out to people yesterday to actually use so like oh so it's brand new yeah literally used
00:46:11
today was the first day it went out amazing why why is protein so so important what's your take on it my it's
00:46:17
so funny so I probably should have used it a lot more when I was swimming but I actually was quite useless at using it
00:46:22
when I was swimming but for me it was mainly I helps keep me full like I love to you know like eat something I'm
00:46:32
I eat a lot of food so I'm just like it's nice to eat something that's going
00:46:35
to keep me full for a long time so when I add it to smoothies or breakfast or whatever then I actually Stay full for a
00:46:42
really long time and I don't feel like I just need to constantly eat which is
00:46:45
quite nice I find Al's made with peas so I feel like that's bitter for my he like
00:46:50
methampetamine yep healthy KY you're falling days it's crazy stuff they like actual
00:46:59
peas right like um how does that work yeah they must just Mill it and ground it until it's like a powder which tastes
00:47:09
really bad on its own recommend but for some reason we've Blended a bunch of stuff together and it
00:47:16
tastes so good so that's really cool so yeah I find PE good cuz it doesn't like
00:47:20
mess with my stomach it's really easy on my digestive system do you find there
00:47:24
still um a perception ESP with um I suppose females that um yeah protein shakes are for
00:47:31
bodybuilders you're arms like madon that was actually like a massive part of our
00:47:36
branding and the way I wanted to promote it was like you don't have to be like a
00:47:39
gym going lifting all the weights kind of person to have protein that you can actually just have it cuz it's like a
00:47:46
healthy yeah and it'll help you keep the muscle that you've already got so
00:47:49
important as they make you feel good and like it has all the essential amino acids and whatever so it's yeah like
00:47:56
it's just a nice thing and it tastes really good which is fun now you and I started um dming backwards and forwards
00:48:02
to set up this uh this podcast well we were both in London a couple of months ago so you you spent your summer in
00:48:08
London which um this is another thing that I I think you and Andrew do that seems Seems like aspirational to people
00:48:14
and INSP so how does how does that work so you go to London for what six months yeah and we did it last year as well how
00:48:20
do he make that work like financially yeah so he I don't know how he manages
00:48:23
Andrew manages to do it but he like barely I can understand because it's a cheap place to live London is not cheap
00:48:30
not a cheap place to live that's for sure but Andrew always wanted to live and work in London that was something
00:48:35
that he really wanted to do and last year I was like okay if we're going to go to London I want to do something
00:48:42
that's going to like keep me busy so that's when I applied for cordon blue
00:48:45
and studied there over the four months so I got a diploma from them yeah what's
00:48:50
what's cord on Blue it's a fancy cooking school it's started in Paris if you seen
00:48:55
the movie Julia and Juliet M Street she she went to C on Blue yeah so she was like the OG C on Blue um so it started
00:49:03
in Paris and now it's everywhere um but they do a plant-based diploma now what
00:49:06
Charles like i' I would love to be qualified in what I'm doing like I just
00:49:10
feel like it gives you you know that extra credential and I just wanted to learn like the official you know Chef
00:49:15
things in what I do so is that the first set of training you've done yeah yeah so
00:49:20
I was like I'd love to yeah actually have training and know what I'm talking
00:49:23
about other than kind of just making it up um so that was really cool to do that
00:49:27
and met some amazing people and from all over the world which is really cool um and so I did that last year and then
00:49:34
Andrew um got a project management job the good thing I guess with project managing is that like it's a Project
00:49:39
based thing so once he's finished a project he can kind of just scoot on out
00:49:43
of there which isn't probably preferred but they seem to really like kiwis hiring kiwis over there so he seem to
00:49:49
just get quite good did you did you find the um your time over there I mean it's
00:49:54
amazing there's no better place in the world I think then Than a Summer in London the days are so long it's
00:49:58
beautiful but how like in terms of meetings and stuff back you know your Zoom or team meetings back home [ __ ]
00:50:04
that must have been a ball like so hot last year I like it was fine cuz I didn't have as much going on like I was
00:50:10
pretty just it was just me I was making recipes I I didn't have an agent at that
00:50:14
point so I was just messaging the companies I was working with and I didn't I was right I was actually
00:50:19
writing this book at the same time as well so I was just like you know writing and making recipes and writing
00:50:25
um but this year I did have a lot going on I I'm planning a retreat in B next
00:50:31
year so trying to communicate with them and then the protein stuff at home you only so our meetings were all from like
00:50:38
700 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. oh that's the fun everyone's going to the I know I was like oh man I know and
00:50:47
having to post at night time cuz my best time to post here is in the morning which is great because I you know wake
00:50:52
up do all my thing like social media ring and then I I go on and off it all day but I'm not as like on it whether as
00:51:02
there I was having to do it at like 9 p.m. which just is not so good for going to sleep I don't think girl schedule
00:51:08
your posts I know well can they automatically post I think you can schedule them can't you I think you can
00:51:13
schedule them but I still think you have to click post right but I'm not sure hey
00:51:17
Jack do you know about that oh they do they do man I should really do that yeah you can borrow
00:51:25
you're than TI guy yeah that's cool that was a good break you enjoy that yeah
00:51:30
yeah yeah yeah it was cool it was so fun we tried to do as many cuz we knew that
00:51:33
that was going to be this year was going to be the last year we did like live overseas CU always why why the last year
00:51:39
I think next year we've just got too much going on we're bit too busy and the
00:51:44
protein like we kind of need to be here we're you know getting it into supermarkets and um kind of running it
00:51:50
running a real life business now not just like kind of a pretend one in my head so um we actually have to kind of
00:51:57
be here and do meetings and do adult grownup stuff yeah [ __ ] that's exciting
00:52:02
yeah it's so fun though do do you have like a fiveyear plan or a 10e plan or
00:52:06
yeah kind of like we had our first kind of meeting on Monday which is so funny because it's me Andrew and my dad our
00:52:13
serious meeting we used to have our meetings in the SAA now do you have like a a rooll check
00:52:19
like they done fight of the concour yeah oh my God we should present that's actually a good idea that's cool
00:52:28
sounds like um sounds like like a a Dream Team you know both both people that you can trust um and just want the
00:52:34
best thing for me really which is just yeah so cool to no alterior mod at all yes exactly the perfect people to go to
00:52:41
BU into business with actually yeah which is fun well that's exciting let's
00:52:46
talk about diet diet and stuff for a bit you know pack your brains with a bit of
00:52:49
food um I saw a quote from you diet can reduce stress lift mood and improve your
00:52:54
confidence self self esteem and general well-being is it sort of like Petrol in a way like that's a good way to think
00:53:00
you put the the super in your system rather than the the diesel or the yeah yeah I think so like that was when and
00:53:08
like yeah I just think whenever like what I eat kind of as how it makes me feel how's you has your mental health
00:53:15
always been pretty good yeah I actually I thought about this recently like other
00:53:20
than my few moments of crying in my goggles and being you know like but never longer than I actually do remember
00:53:28
at that time though I went to the doctors cuz I was actually I ended up getting gland fever that's why I end up
00:53:33
cting swimming but I was telling him all my symptoms and he went oh so I'm not
00:53:37
going to put you on anti-depressants and I remember thinking like well yeah like
00:53:41
what do you what do you mean and that was the first time I'd ever like even thought about possibly being like
00:53:47
depressed and I was like I don't think I'm that but I was like the fact that
00:53:52
the do I was like man I must be sounding pretty down if this is what he is picking up
00:53:58
picking up the Vibes I think they they do um over diagnose maybe a littleit too easy that's what cuz I was kind of like
00:54:04
we've just had a 10-minute conversation I don't think we need to go into that
00:54:08
but yeah that so that was interesting that was the first time in my head I was like but overall like I actually have
00:54:14
I'm really lucky in the fact that I yeah have always been quite do do you like do
00:54:19
you notice your your mental wellbeing or your health takes like a turn for the worst if you if you're eating more [ __ ]
00:54:24
the food than what you should yeah probably but now I'm pretty chill about it all like obviously living in London
00:54:30
you go to the pub a lot and hang out and it's fun and so I like to take you know
00:54:35
if I'm going to have a really good time and it's worth it or not or I'm pretty
00:54:39
I'm very chill about things you got have balance in your life yes I think that
00:54:45
it's what you do most of the time that yes yes exactly like it's like a 802
00:54:49
rule I suppose yeah what what does like an average day look like for say say say
00:54:53
yesterday from start to finish what did you eat ooh oh fun question um no it actually is fun I love thinking
00:55:02
about food um oh so I had a meeting in the morning so I just made a smoothie to go with like lots of it was packed with
00:55:09
so many different things if I'm just going to have a smoothie it has to be like a million different powders and
00:55:13
seeds and peanut butters and stuff um to actually keep me full and then what did
00:55:19
I have for lunch I just had a bagel with some smash Deo and some Tempe and then I
00:55:27
had a Kucher and then what else did I have anything maybe a little snack in the afternoon and then for dinner I made
00:55:33
these like sushi rice tofu Bowl things for the whole family and then just some chocolate and some tea it's like it's
00:55:41
pretty right it's fa healthy yeah healthy Kelsey healthy Kelsey on brand I was on brand yesterday did I did I
00:55:47
choose a lucky day I was going to say on Friday it was a cab and pizza but it's ref fishing to hear that
00:55:55
though yeah that's what I think too I like to tell people that because I'm
00:55:57
like I'm not I'm not eating like that all the time like most weekends I'm
00:56:01
going out for dinner with friends and getting pizzas and yeah yeah so so your your Instagram how much of that is how
00:56:07
much of that is the real what is it like 80% of the real caly 70% it's all like I
00:56:11
do even though it's called healthy celsey like I always share like I'm never like hiding that I'm oh my gosh I
00:56:17
ate a pizza like I'm always share like I just share food all the time like no
00:56:22
matter what I'm eating I'd say there's not much that I i' say it's actually not
00:56:25
much at all that I don't share on my social media probably too much but if if
00:56:29
you've got a pint and um some loaded fries actually not into not a beer gwn you know what what is what is your
00:56:35
poison do you you drink honestly no and like not cider or wine no like at when in London like if I have to get
00:56:42
something I'll probably get a cider like a RTD maybe oh God I wish I had I wish I
00:56:47
had that relationship with alcohol this is what like my whole family's like whose child are you because this is they
00:56:54
drinking just like I mean not really like on the weekends and stuff pretty healthy but
00:56:59
like I'm just like I've never really been I'm just a weirdo same with coffee
00:57:03
don't even like coffee like who doesn't like coffee that's weird are you a human
00:57:09
I know alien and at least I'm just like what like I would totally drink it if it
00:57:13
was if I like the taste of it but I just don't like the taste of it so weird you
00:57:19
the other day I I um for some reason I just had a craving for a peppermint pint herbal tea and I had that and I was like
00:57:24
actually this is I felt better after after having that than what I do having like a Milky coffee I'm like a latte guy
00:57:31
um but I do love coffee though yeah most people do it's a normal thing to love
00:57:36
yeah okay so say if you're someone like someone like me that's not not much into
00:57:40
cooking but you do want to be healthy what could you have as an easy average day like like if you gave me a template
00:57:47
something I I could I could eat the same thing every day day after day really see
00:57:51
I can't do that see oh there's one meal that I have like most days but that's
00:57:55
that tofu Rice Bowl thing but I really maybe it's just because I'm always
00:57:59
having to make new recipes that I'm so used to like rotating and new thing new
00:58:04
thing new thing like sometimes the family's like can we have that thing I'm
00:58:07
like no sorry got to make a new thing I'm always like moving and moving and I I need new content to post new
00:58:13
content sorry um yeah how often do you post by the way sorry just before we get back to oh yeah every day really yeah I
00:58:20
I've been way more chill with my healthy caly account since the pro since it's growing like I've just
00:58:26
started that new account I'm trying to post every day Tik Tok is Tik Tok how
00:58:31
many followers have you got on Tik Tok like 40 something, um I only committed to that this year because I was like
00:58:37
that's a dangerous place to be I guess I would sucked in I'm addicted to T and
00:58:43
it's it's funny isn't it CU I find with um like my my Instagram the comments are
00:58:46
generally quite nice and inclusive and then you can post the same content on Tik Tok and it'll be you're
00:58:52
ugly like oh my God but it's like and a lot of them are you you know weird usernames where there's no sort of
00:58:59
profile behind it and you're like it's probably a 13y old yeah yeah or 60y old
00:59:05
one or the other but it's weird how you have the same content on the different
00:59:08
platform it has like a different sort of tone I know it's funny how that and then
00:59:12
on Facebook it's just like my Nano and being like you're you're amazing so it's
00:59:17
like really changes from different platforms it's cool do you do you feel like a um a slave to the social media at
00:59:23
times like you're like oh my God I haven't posted in two days on it yeah I
00:59:26
I do like to back up content so even just on my page I've probably got like 10 drafts so that if I am in the mood of
00:59:34
like I actually can't be bothered but I haven't posted in a couple days I'll
00:59:36
just like use one of the drafts and post that one but most of the time I actually
00:59:40
quite enjoy making new content I do go through like routes where I'm like at
00:59:44
the moment I think cuz I've got so much going on I used to literally every single meal I would make I would video
00:59:51
or take a photo of because I was like I'm eating I may as well make content oh
00:59:55
it's potential content yeah and whether is now I'm like I don't know if that's
00:59:58
the healthiest way to be like it's sometimes nice just to eat your meal and yeah like enjoy your life so I'm a bit
01:00:06
more chill with it and I set days like tomorrow I'm going to make content all
01:00:10
day and things like that um which I think is slightly a better way to do it but at the beginning I gu I was so Keen
01:00:16
as well like I was like I just I just going to make anything contenting it's
01:00:20
going to be great yeah and I suppose it's the way it's it's in your DNA it's
01:00:23
the way you're as person that probably comes back to the partially the swimming
01:00:26
thing as well you get a taste of success and you just want let's [ __ ] go let's
01:00:32
very competitive as well so I'm like I have to win yeah two raw sisters I'm
01:00:36
Coming For You com down I'm I'm creating beef with with you and Margot and
01:00:43
Rosa video um yeah oh that's that's really cool you you're doing so bloody
01:00:49
well that's amazing so so yes so you just keep doing what you're doing and
01:00:54
see where it takes you pretty much kind of I think I'd like like now I guess
01:00:58
yeah it's cool to have like goals especially with like starting a business like it's cool to have you obviously
01:01:03
need to have short-term long-term goals and like new products and things like that so we do have goals set for that
01:01:09
and I love making cookbooks like I could honestly I would just want to make all the cookbooks I think it's so fun I just
01:01:15
saw my second one for the first time like this week so it's really cool seeing oh wow like like a a PDF or the
01:01:22
actual like the actual book of my hands which is so something really really special about
01:01:26
that just because the sheer amount of work that goes into it's because it's
01:01:29
years of like trying to make something and then the photos are so cool and like it's heaps of it's cool yeah so it's
01:01:35
photos of our travels and just yeah it's it's really cool seeing it yeah how do
01:01:41
you how do you decide um and how do you get that balance right between you the food stuff and what you share about you
01:01:47
and Andrew's own life cuz I suppose you you do sort of need that in a way otherwise it's just photos of food but
01:01:53
people need to know whoel whatelse is which I think is a better way at growing plus I just kind
01:01:59
of just I've always quite liked Instagram like even just my normal account I was actually quite active and
01:02:05
posted quite a bit on that so um it is quite cool to show you know my life as well as food I found like I feel like I
01:02:12
found quite a good balance of you know every few posts that will be of where we are or what we're doing or things like
01:02:19
that and it is quite a good way to grow a brand where people actually like care about you and want to see what you're up
01:02:24
to yeah yeah oh you I think you're doing it well you got the balance right was it
01:02:28
hard to get Andrew on board or was he always no he's actually always been quite into it I think he quite likes the
01:02:33
attention well also complaining if someone if someone else is going to do it for you yeah hey to pop up take me
01:02:43
this and he's always like get a video of me the fans want to see it like holding
01:02:47
something I'm like okay no they don't yeah I'm sure they do okay oh also you I
01:02:52
was saying before like what would be an easy an easy day that I could duplicate day after day after day sorry yeah I got
01:02:58
um what would be an easy thing I do love a curry or things like that and things that you can make in like bulk is really
01:03:08
good I think I'm kind of debating ideas for my third book at the moment I quite
01:03:12
like the idea of making it just like an easy thing like that like where you can make like a bolog or a curry and just
01:03:19
make it serve you know lots of people and then you can just take it out the fridge every single day um
01:03:24
that's a good idea or you Chuck it in some Ste yeah and then you can just reheat it and then it's easy to go um so
01:03:32
things like that are really good or even making like the base of a salad and then
01:03:35
changing up the toppings or the protein or whatever um is quite a good one breakfast I honestly eat this different
01:03:45
thing for breakfast every single day I think cuz I'm always videoing what I have for breakfast smoothies I really
01:03:50
like smoothies or smoothie bowls um yeah yeah so many different things I don't know even like sandwiches
01:03:57
I love a sandwich like with sourdough and stuff I have sandwiches quite a lot yeah yeah and and what else do you do to
01:04:03
keep healthy oh you you still like surfing you surf yeah love surfing we're actually going on a bit of a surfing
01:04:09
diving trip next month um I love all sorts of exercise actually I'm I think maybe since cting soing I'm honestly
01:04:16
happy to do anything maybe other than swimming I'm quite useless it going swimming these days think I've done my
01:04:22
Dash every now and then I jump into chicken I'm still good at it and then I'm like okay we're good yeah yeah is is
01:04:28
it one of those um is it a muscle memory thing is it like riding a bike yeah like
01:04:32
you'd be you'd be a lot slower though yeah and like maybe over short distance
01:04:36
you can still kind of whip out a 50 m but no way I could do like a 200 backstroke I I reck I would actually
01:04:42
drown like it would be so tiring all the time you'd be just alarmed by how slow
01:04:46
slower I re yeah I'd be concerned yeah and and and is like from an outsider's
01:04:52
perspective someone that follows you like the and from what we've explained in the last hour like the life does look
01:04:57
idelic you know 6 months in barley 6 months in London you know just doing Instagram post um yeah what's the side
01:05:05
that we don't see is a lot of [ __ ] sitting at my desk probably actually sitting like this on the couch like
01:05:11
slumped down instead of a desk I should really sit at a desk but yeah a lot of it is honestly just like admin like a
01:05:18
lot of edmin stuff but like I mean I say like things like that but like life is pretty I'm pretty lucky and life is
01:05:25
pretty epic so I I like to take the that's a tradeoff isn't it yeah exactly
01:05:29
and I go through stages of like I remember going to London and like I was like I'm just going to look at jobs like
01:05:34
normal people jobs um that I might be even qualified for these days and like you know like Jamie Oliver is hiring a
01:05:41
social media person and like that probably could be a job that I maybe could get and I'm like that could be
01:05:47
really cool but then I think and I'm like oh actually like I just don't think
01:05:51
it like working for myself is I'm so lucky to be able to do that and yeah like I always toss I well I don't always
01:05:58
toss it up but tossing it up a little bit and then I'm like actually no like
01:06:02
this is cool like it is cool it's it's a trade-off isn't it you have the security
01:06:06
of a job but then you get four or five weeks and you'll leave a year um or you
01:06:11
can work for yourself and you sort of control how much time off your head yeah exactly so yeah there's um ups and downs
01:06:17
to it all but it does look I remember looking at kind of people in my position and being like Oh my God that would be
01:06:23
so fun which it is it is so fun like really lucky but there are it's definitely quite it's hard at the same
01:06:30
time when you when you say Edmond what do you mean like just dealing backwards and forwards with Brands invoices emails
01:06:35
and like setting up content making content is that you do have to do it a lot especially if you want to post every
01:06:44
day and have like updates like on my app I try to do like three or four new recipes every week um so it is a lot to
01:06:52
and like still I don't it doesn't make sense for me to hire someone yet yeah would that be the
01:06:59
dream though to get to that point where you've got a PA you're being told what
01:07:04
to do you can do what what brings you Joy all the [ __ ] going to be dealt with yes that's what I would I would love to
01:07:10
do that but not I'm probably not at that stage yet so for the F you know however
01:07:14
many years you do have to do all the stuff like it yeah I was listening to a podcast with um the guy that set up um
01:07:20
Airbnb you may you may have heard of it little and he he talked about um the joury as like a mountain top he goes you
01:07:27
can't just like look at the pcture m and say I need to get there you have to like
01:07:31
take every step as it comes and there's no way to sort of Fast Track it which is
01:07:34
how you learn I guess and like the re businesses are successful is because you realize the problems and you fix them
01:07:40
and things like that yeah have there been any like major mistakes or learnings or lessons for you on the way
01:07:45
I don't think anything major I'd say definitely yeah nothing that was going
01:07:50
to you know cancel me yet but there definitely a lot of mistakes and them figuring things out
01:07:57
what things work what things don't what things people were interested in like it
01:08:01
would be really cool growing the proteins kind of just started but it would be cool growing that and figuring
01:08:05
that that out again as well like I imagine we're going to have things that really work in things that really don't
01:08:11
and then like learning from them and yeah you're talking about that so transferring that to like a social media
01:08:16
perspective are you are you a slave to the slave to the comments or likes no I'm actually pretty oh yeah I mean
01:08:25
not to what people are saying I haven't actually had too many too many negative
01:08:30
things which is nice not too many bullies on there um no but I suppose you do a you're like okay people don't
01:08:38
want I do and like things that go viral I'm like yes you know like I'm secretly
01:08:43
I am the man like and then things that don't get as many views I'm like oh man
01:08:48
but I've decid when I first started it was really determined I reckon my happiness was like I was going to have a
01:08:55
good day if like I got however many new followers or and I was like that is so no I can not be doing that so I'm pretty
01:09:03
good now at yeah you know switching it but God yeah it's a tricky one I'm I'm
01:09:08
quite similar and I'm probably probably still there at a bit and I know that
01:09:12
that um you know you can't you can't see validation from external things like
01:09:16
that especially people you don't even know but it's I I can sort of justify it
01:09:21
to myself by saying well it's it's part of this J I'm on trying to make a living
01:09:25
and you could do it even more so yeah cuz I'm like it's my job job yeah well you can it's still not
01:09:30
healthy not at all cuz a lot of the time it's like a lot of the time it's like
01:09:35
some of my friend my really good friend Taylor he actually just calls me healthy um um yeah like you it's just
01:09:44
really unhealthy isn't it you can't because you can't control it at all really not at
01:09:50
all and sometimes the algorithms are just really weird what and Instagram goes through stages where it really
01:09:56
boosts you and then it really doesn't so it's kind of like I remember yeah back
01:10:00
in the day I used to freak out if I didn't get any new followers in a certain amount of time and I was like
01:10:04
that is so ridiculous like no you don't need to stress about these things yeah
01:10:10
so minor things so um eventually do you think you'll um this probably won't be
01:10:15
your handle but um do you think you'll become wealthy kelseyy Kelsey I hope so
01:10:19
yeah yeah yeah imagine if I made that my head oh my God wait followers overnight yeah yeah
01:10:28
I'm not cooking anymore I'm just in resp all the time just eating at five star placees
01:10:34
yeah getting bigger and bigger as living off the the oh how good well good luck to you I mean like what you've done in
01:10:42
the last there's another quote I really like I think this was a Steve Jobs one
01:10:45
the Apple guy um he said people overestimate what they can do in one year and underestimate what they can do
01:10:49
in five or 10 years um and you look back and what you've done in three years is
01:10:53
it's quite remarkable it is insane isn't it and it's good for people to tell me
01:10:56
that cuz I'm like you know in my head I'm like oh I've barely done anything
01:11:00
you know like I've just been doing this so it's quite whenever I do things I had
01:11:04
a woman's weekly thing the other day and she was like wow you're only 26 and I
01:11:08
was just like yeah like cuz I don't actually do that for myself very often yeah you're not good at like pausing and
01:11:15
I suppose you do have moments though like when you got the book the other day and you have cool but so you just paus
01:11:20
for a moment then you're back on to looking forward yeah yeah quite definitely a forward thinker I suppose
01:11:27
definitely need to try to be in the moment a little bit more yeah so so the second book just before we WRA up that's
01:11:32
um that's out right now oh yeah right now congratulations yeah thank um so what's it called what's it about what a
01:11:39
great time for Christmas yes why should people buy it so it's called healthy
01:11:44
Kelsey travel kitchen so it's literally just pretty much our last two years I
01:11:49
really wanted to put what we've been doing into a book because it makes the most sense of people have been following
01:11:54
me on this journey then it's cool that they can see it all so it's got over
01:11:57
like a hundred recipes all inspired from different countries so we went to Morocco Egypt Spain Italy it like really
01:12:07
and obviously lived in B is where a lot of the recipes come from um so it's really pretty it's got heaps of really
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cool photos colors it's just yeah packed with so many different things so I'm I'm
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very proud of this one actually great gift great gift for anyone this Christmas yes yes oh my God Christmas
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crazy yeah and and 2024 what's uh what am I doing in 2024 that's a great
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question I'd like to write another book so I think I'm oh God you've just done
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one give yourself a break I know honestly this is the thing because they take so long to kind of like come into
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actually happening that like I kind of like you need to start writing it you know a year or two before it actually
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gets released so I think I'll start working on that um and then obviously grow the protein powder and then I'm
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doing a retreat in Bley a like Fitness healthy healthy Kelsey retreat at commune which is where I got engaged
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which is bit of a coincidence um so we're going to do a little Retreat there
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I'm hiking Mount kilamanjaro oh no way yeah oh I've wanted to do that I know my so my apparently it's like
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like like um from a physical perspective it's it's hard but not hard hard um and
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we're doing the long way but in terms of altitude like you you think you can just
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boost up but you need to take your time so I think that's so the long one is
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less busy and apparently yeah it's just a bit easier cuz you don't walk that far
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but you really are going up up and up and up is there something that you you seek out or no so my dad my dad had a
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bit of like a health thing this year and he was like I'm going to hike Mount
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kilan jaro and mom was like I'm not and so he goes he's like well kids who's coming and then so I like yes
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please put me on the list so so we're all going to do it as a family which is
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so fun see if Mom's going to hang out down the bottom I think maybe do Safari
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and oh how good I know gez it seems like you got like a wonderful family Dynamic
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really cool my parents are epic they always say they're actually like my best
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friends the Andrew's best friends too cuz my I'm from I'm from like a [ __ ]
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up broken family and we're not particularly close and you sort of I I like to think every family is a little
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bit of [ __ ] up seems they are annoyingly really cool my parents I always and as I get older I realize that
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you know as a kid you just think parents are parents as I get older I'm like n
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they are the best humans like so lucky oh you did well and it seems like they they've raised you well as well uh like
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the the lessons we're talking before about them the commitment of them taking
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you to swimming lessons and them being the ones they obviously could tell that it wasn't bringing you Joy anymore to
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tell you not to do it I think that's cool it is they're the best they're
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really really cool people hey well healthy Kelsey it's been great to sit down with you and pick your brains I
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can't believe that time's gone felt like we were just chatting oh it's like an
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hour and a hour and a quarter yeah oh my gosh yeah and I I appreciate it and um yeah I mean there's probably some people
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that are listening to this that are envious of of what you've done but the funny thing is anyone can do it yeah
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anyone can do it it it takes bravery and courage and hard [ __ ] work as well yeah yeah I that's the thing it may look
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easy or simple but you know you've done it yourself yeah cool thank you it was
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so nice thanks for having me oh thanks for coming over I really appreciate it and thanks for the protein which I'm
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going to I'm going to tip straight down the think cuz I'm a radex guy no I appreciate you and all the best
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for the future thank you so [Music] much