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I see you know during the process for example when I went down to Wellington I saw all these people from all walks of
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life some had nothing they were living in you know their cars because they lost their
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jobs and you that was triggering for me that that's when I was like you know nobody should ever sit and be quiet
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about what's happening people should have a sense of responsibility towards their fellow humans um
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because you know once your human rights is gone it is very hard to get it back you know when things are taken away from
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you it is very hard to get them back yeah that's a fact of life anywhere any
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you know political rules boundaries whatever comes in they hardly ever leave they they're there to stay and
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that that's just so your freedom shrinking and shrinking and shrinking and if you're not aware if you don't
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take it serious you know sure people tell me oh she's so like crazy she thinks you know she's a conspiracy
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theorist Etc um that's okay but you know for me then again I can put my head on
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my pillow and say I did the right thing for my children for my fellow human beings um knowing that I did my best
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whether it worked or it didn't work but at least every day I'm thinking that and
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so far I think with this uh mandates and cover issues and the way the government
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has handled stuff um I don't think I've ever made a mistake I think I've been on
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point on everything that I stood for and I'm glad that I did yeah it's quite
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funny isn't it it feels like we're um almost at a stage now in society where
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if you have any sort of opinion that's not mainstream popular it's just very
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easy to you know put you in a box and say you're an alt-right conspiracy theorist seems to be a at a a state
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we're at now that's exactly what what it that's how it works this ideological
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sort of establishments coming in the reason I don't care about that is because I grew up in one until I was 16
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the most you know important years of my life I learned how these things work you
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know I watched it happen if you open your mouth said anything you you're a heretic you don't believe in Islam you
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don't believe in the collective uh goodness and the greater you know whatever you call it uh greater
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good um that's all excuse and because you know they're absolutely taking away their rights of the
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greater population for their own ideology I I don't agree with that I've
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lived through it and I can see that it started happening um not under Islamic ideology but under a different ideology
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um where a group of people in power feel like they can dictate to everybody else
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how they should live that's not being free and it's worrisome because I don't
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want my children to go through what I went through and yes I know they've got
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a great life they we are in the most beautiful country in the world and I love this country but um looking at
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oversees what's happening there and looking at New Zealand the way they're
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going um above things in New Zealand um to me it's like oh this is all happening again different way but the
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same path did you did you um you mentioned before you went to the um the co protest in Wellington did you are you
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vaccinated did you get the vaccine or no no because it's funny isn't it because it's
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um there was definit like you look back and it's um I'm I'm a sheeple I just go
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along with whatever's going like the government tells me to get three Jabs I'll get three Jabs I just want
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to go with the path of least resistance but I look back now and there was um you
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one of my good friends got married and I was a groomsman and his mom had to have
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like a fake vaccine passport to to even attend her own son's wedding um because
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the Caterers wouldn't let her and otherwise there Al and you look back now recent it was only like two or three
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years ago and it's you think you know she was sort of um almost like a leper
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at her own son's wedding at that time and it's only like recent history and
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you look back down and go well maybe she had a faar point do you know what I mean
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and there's people that that were forced out of their jobs and you look back now
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and it's only again only a couple of years ago and you think well maybe these
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people that have had a point um you know when thinking rationally and OB objectively becomes a
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crime um and you are being judged for taking making decisions for your own health or um you know doing your own
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research at the time having W with internet obviously you have access to the best um you know virologist in the
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world the best scientists in the world and they are telling you after all their years and these are information was
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available before the vaccination came to New Zealand and they were all worried about it and they were very um outspoken
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and verbal about it it didn't take a you know you could just go and find this
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information and they were all valid um and make your mind but when talking logic or taking ownership of your own
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life all of a sudden is you being a heretic what is the difference of today and when they used to burn you know uh
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Protestants or burn anybody or scientists who spoke against the church because Church said so because the
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Catholic Church said this is the science not what soans so says not what a person
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who's dedicated his whole life has written half of the you know a scientific book and uh books and uh
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medical books uh which until now we've been practicing oh don't listen to that
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person listen to us listen to me the politician who's enforcing this upon you
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and a whole bunch of um you know other people who are par in it um and look at look what happened today like for
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example with the hatchard report coming out yesterday which now shows that 11,000 uh people were examed and a whole
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bunch of them were surgeons and doctors and health you know people in Ministry of Health etc etc
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well so what is the difference between those people who were professionals medical professionals who rejected the
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vaccine they were the best of the best in the country they rejected the vaccine you gave them exemption but also gag
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order so they couldn't talk about it but if I refused to base on my own searching
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of the best sources in the world if I was like oh that's not very good for me
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I think I'm going to wait and see what happens and then you know I'm okay to
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isolate so why was I a conspiracy theory you know like yeah again like I was saying before I think it's an easy box
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to put people into that have any sort of opinion that's not you know mainstream or
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popular it's just it's like an easy box just call them altright conspiracy
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theorists yeah well the the thing is you know what bothers me is that it's a very
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hypocritical way that um you know the our government has been dealing with a personal freedom so if I come today and
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I I say I'm a different gender and this is my pronouns this is what I think and
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everybody should respect that oh yes AB absolutely let's like raise all the flags and support um you know um what
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you're saying because you're an individual we should respect your ideology we should respect your thought
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and we should respect your feeling so I come in I'm like H I'm a mother of two I
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am worried it's not enough research I don't 100% trust this procedure I want
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to take my time oh you um you know you're just a conspiracy theory why are are you you know doing
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this it's not all about you you're being selfish so what is it either do we we
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either we have the personal freedom of thought and choice or we don't yeah don't come at me and say oh you know I'm
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I come from I don't know um some race or somewhere or some country so I you know
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I'm more accepted because um I have more thoughts and everybody's say yeah yeah
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and everybody else has to shut up that's not okay if you if you give freedom and
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choice to people then respect that and don't be H critical about it would you
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ever get into politics you got any interest in that um here I I get ask about this this question a lot um I
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don't have any interest to get into politics but but you got some very strong opinions and you're very smart as
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well but I I I definitely have an issue with how the our political system in New
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Zealand has been um sort of handled uh we V and we get these people in they go to make they're make hang on Kanye no no
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you're being very naughty he's just bored about the co chat I reckon but I'm
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not yes well so what he saying is you um um so I I believe that it needs to be kind of tackled and people we are voters
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and we have rights um but we vote these people and they go in there with no accountability do whatever they want
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nobody questions them nobody goes and holds them responsible hey you promised these things where are they what
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happened we don't have establishment like that and I believe that we do we are in dire need of an entity that
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overlooks what government does in terms of making sure they deliver in any cooperation anywhere you'll have that
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accountability except uh within this government and how you know they run it now that doesn't exist in many other
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places in the world either but it doesn't mean that it can't exist and I
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believe that it is definitely you know we need a whole bunch of people who are experts and passionate uh who can come
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and make sure the government delivers what they [Music] promise