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so when I met my ex-husband he had been a young immigrant to New Zealand you know he started from
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nothing he um came from a very conflicted place you know um his parents were Irish so his mom was orange and his
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dad was his mom was green and his dad was orange is a noo so his family his father's family tried his mother's
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family tried father's family tried to shoot his father because you know um it
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was it was a sacrilege to mix Protestant and Catholic um so they had to move and
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go and live elsewhere and so he un and and then when he was a child his father went to war he understood the concept of
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War he was a young immigrant you know he went through a lot of stuff emotionally
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that I went through in different settings in different time zones but the same experiences you know uh coming here
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at very young age on his own you know jumping ship um so him and I really jelled and
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connected you know although there there was you know it was much older than me but it it it just worked we were like
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whoa you know um we get each other and that to me was my digging gold yeah so this is um this is your you
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you are you still legally married you you broke divorced because it it was actually I'm um at the time like for a
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couple of years we were discussing that I was like oh you know I think I'm going
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to want to have children so we can adopt or you know um get a donor Etc and he was firmly against that and he told me
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that because he because he already had had out kids or he just didn't want to
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yeah and I was like fine and so anyway it took kind of couple of years and um we were like even when I I had my
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first child we were still living together you know uh so it was we were very open about the process what
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happened um and we are still best friends I see him you know couple of times a week um yeah so this is um
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friends this is uh James K Patrick who's um 43 years old so he's how old now at
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93 yes 93 so so when you when you got together you were 26 I think 26 and he was 20 40 like early 70s no I think six
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and N or something yeah right and um you just like attracted it just attracted the intellect yeah or it it was that it
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it was that we just um you know had so much to talk about and he was so Charming you know um we
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had lots of um friends in common that's how I met him and he originally told me and my
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sister that he wanted he was doing some project in um Oto I think or something and he wanted our um help because at the
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time um you know we studied architecture so um and that was his you know he was a
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developer and um then he gave a project I think to do his offices or something like that so was kind of a gradual thing
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as and he just one time out of the blue he was like oh you know introduce me to some like some of his friends my fiance
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and it's I was like what the you know like it was just funny it was you know
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and it kind of it was never about um you know um kind of you know lost and it wasn't our
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friendship it was full of respect our age difference was a lot uh he was going through some stuff at the time and um it
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it just worked it was more like a um sort of a great friendship that that sort of got the
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marriage stamp on it you know so it's a great friendship and you connected on an
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intellectual level but it must have been nice to know he was rich as well you know it was it was but like just for the
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secur security aspect of nothing else you to be fair it was it's the you know people
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might look at it funny way but when a person comes from nothing and achieves what he had achieved it is you know you
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just develop disrespect and like wow you know um it's the same as like some of these
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like scientists or people that you look that they've created something they don't have much money but intellectually
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they're like wow you know you've achieved this and you know they've got
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like professors penniless professors who are you know all these young girls fall
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in love it's it's kind of like that the fact that he had managed to do so many um
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terrible jobs and you know live in such poverty yet get himself there um that was so
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admirable it's a tune on isn't it someone that who's not to who's not to
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fall in love with that you know so you got married what what was the um what was the Judgment like there must been a
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lot of judgment from a lot of people did that hurt or not really no I I didn't care yeah he didn't
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care it was like my uh my partner my girlfriend at the moment she's uh 21 years younger
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than me and we get a lot of that you know you do and it's yeah but I don't
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understand all it's just people are you know if you go and marry a handsome rich
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prince oh my God you've done so well it's like what what and then he goes and has Affairs and dumped you two
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minutes later and it's what why is it that we celebrate people who um go after like
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this crazy package that uh has been promoted in I don't know Disneyland or Hollywood Disney movies people oh this
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person has to be certain height and looks like this and a certain age and body like this and this much a nice car
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or whatever oh my God what a great girl we go and celebrate people who go for the cliche of Hollywood and Disney
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[ __ ] The Prince and princesses story and oh people cry over it oh my God she married this Prince and then people who
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go and marry whoever they want you know old or young or whatever who cares so should you go and criticize somebody who
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marries a billionaire who is Young and handsome also should you call them a gold
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digger well yeah it's no different is it it's um no no different and obviously
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you know if if you're just in it for the money there's no way you're going to be
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married for 15 years little Alone um break Happ and still be oh best friend know yeah he loves the kids he loves my
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partner we we're best friends he's extremely um supportive you know he spent a couple of months last Christmas
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with us um you know up north there's no you know he doesn't have a issue and
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people like oh you know you me it's like he doesn't have an issue I don't have a
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issue what is it to you I love that how's how's his health now is he okay he's okay he goes to work
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right does he yeah yeah yeah he goes to work geez that's great in in your '90s it's you're in
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snipers alley aren't you but he's not a normal person what do you mean yeah he's
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he's just always been you know with the amount of wealth he has he lives so moderately you know he's not not a um
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kind of a guy that who goes to work to make money to flash and buy this and that and you know have a he goes to work
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because he believes in productivity he believes in what he does and um you know hardly ever you come across people
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like that but in a funny way that's probably what's kept them um fit and
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healthy and vital I mean you stop work at 50 60 70 whatever and then then what happens if all you know then it's almost
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like you've lost that purpose that reason to wake up always used to say the day I the day I stopped working I'll die
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yeah you know because to him like even like nowadays they deliver for him but like when he used to go in supermarket
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and Shop he used to like be worried about two cents more and two cents less you know is that just a hangover from
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his like poo upbringing no no is no it's just him right you know he just a tight
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ass it's not he looks at it as value he doesn't believe in wastage okay yeah unbelievable that's awesome so and
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how how do it when when when you broke up after 15 years you said it was amicable but was it oh it was on the car
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it's we had talked about it it wasn't public you know um it wasn't it's we are still you know the same
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nothing has CH you know from the day I met him to now nothing really has changed I see him less because we're not
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living together that's basically it but other than that nothing really has changed so I think it was around this
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probably this time putting a time stamp on the conversation where you were where
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you were married to James that you became like um a socialite like I just moved up to ockland from palmon North
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what year was that like in the uh in the early 2000s right and it's every weekend
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there's the um the her on Sunday and they had a section called spy um Ricardo
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simit does it now but I think it was this lady called Bridget Saunders yes yeah and you were like in the paper
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every weekend yeah always going out to things sure and why why why was this so much interest in you
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um you know it's funny because people misunderstood the situation people were like oh you're looking for
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exposure and fame like for what what happened is that because and before that James didn't really have a public
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profile it was quite but I think putting him and me together um all of a sudden it was just this no in Europe Young
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Women Marry old men all the time in Middle East they marry all the time nobody cares but in here it was like oh
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um so it it was to them it was very intriguing and you know um they started picking on me they
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started you know qu writing in gossip columns before even I you know oh James and has my this Gilda
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and so what I did was like well there is no shame I'm not going to hide from this
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do you want a picture you come and take a picture you know if it's a freak Show
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come I'm the freak take the [Music] picture