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Is there actually anything good about gangs? So people that don't have a family suddenly find a family in the
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gang. >> The gang is the family that they never had. The gangs the fam the family the
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gang provides them with comradeship meaning. Um uh it provides them with a with an income especially nowadays. Um
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it provides you with status, um a sense of personal pride. All the things that that that uh that a
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an abusive or non-existent family didn't provide will provide you when you get
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out uh when you if you in the gang and and the the book that was written by Glennice Denah and me called the girls
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in the gang was actually about that but it was about women and gangs and u that's what we found
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she she did a study of women and gangs And they nearly all came from terrible environments.
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>> Yeah. >> And they were abused as children, sexually abused and physically abused
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and so on. And that was just normal for them. And that leads to a pretty u a woman a
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person who can have serious personality problems when they grow up. >> All those reasons that you just gave for
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people joining gangs, they they all sound very very good. But is there actually anything good about gangs?
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Well, it provides uh it fulfills a need for some people. Um uh and um I know I know a few a few gangsters who aren't
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involved in crime. Um not everyone who's a gangster is in a is involved in crime. And so from that
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point of view it it fulfills the need. It provides com just like the joining the police or joining the army.
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>> It provides you with a group a reference group um which fulfills the psychological need that all humans have
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that is a sense of belonging and a team to identify with. So from that point of view, I think
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gangs do provide >> a good thing for some