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Am I right in assuming that your love of movement began in jail or you started long-distance running while you were
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incarcerated? >> Um I actually before I went to jail I was uh well when I was a kid, you know,
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I was a um Oakland judo champion. So I did judo uh as a junior and uh and I won the under nin stone championship uh when
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I was about 12 or 13 or something. And then when I was in jail, no, sorry, when I was at university, I was uh exercising
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fairly regularly, but not entering any races. But I was doing a bit of running and and then I then I was doing karate
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for a um about four years. I got a first done with the Cheetah Khan Club. Um and
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um won the Oakland University Championship, Sparring Championship, and Carter Um, so
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I was always involved and then when I went to jail in Mount Eden when I was in Ramand, I used to run uh run around the
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yard every day which was I was unusual and and that. So we're only out for 2
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hours a day. Uh we're out for 4 hours a day out of ourselves and I used to go
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for runs around the yard. >> How big was the yard? >> Not very big. >> What do you reckon? like 100 meters if
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you >> about 20 laps to the mile, I think it was something like that. >> Yeah.
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>> Oh, good on you. Well, you're looking you're looking great. I think that's the
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key. E you got to keep moving. >> Yeah. Yeah. You can get old pretty quick
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if you don't. >> Well, let's um let's go all the way back. So, um the Greg Newold story. Um
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alcoholic mom, dad left when you were 11. What impact did that have on you? Is that was it were you rebellious? Did you
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have a rebellious streak before then or was that sort of um was that a turning point for you?
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>> It pretty well. I think my I became more and more rebellious around the time my balls dropped around
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the time I reached puberty. You know, I was actually a very very shy young boy and I I was I was nervous of other
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people and so on until until my balls dropped. And then when I reached started reaching puberty, the testosterone I
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think kicked in and and I become a lot more self-confident. And another thing that made me self-confident was the judo
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when I found that I could, you know, I could win fights, you know, and I was, that gave me a lot of confidence because
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it's important to a young boy to be sort of masculine and so What?