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often a long time without any sort of
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reward in terms of you know for the work
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you're putting in yeah there's some stat
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that I don't know 90% of podcast don't
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make it past episode seven and because
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it starts off with a hiss and a Roar and
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you got all these good ideas and then it
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kind of turns into a job which is why
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people ask like what's your advice for
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people starting off with the podcast do
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it for the right reasons do it because
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it's something you enjoy doing which is
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why we started in my garage talking to
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our best mates and our family about
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football and
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if it wasn't for that we would have
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stopped after if it wasn't fun you know
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there was no thought of financial reward
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or no thought of audience it was just
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about yeah it was a chance to get out
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once a week it wasn't even actually we
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li it wasn't even once a week then it
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was just a chance to get out get in
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front of someone put a microphone in
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front of them and then ask them a bunch
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of questions which we never really had
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done so it kind of gives you license to
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pry into people that you know's lives
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with um without a care in the world yes
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I came from a good place by the way I
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listened to that episode today episode 1
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November 2019 um with Aaron Scott who's
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Aaron Scott MOS a soccer guy football
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guy he's a Grassroots football legend so
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he just played in The chadam Cup Final
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he's got four kids he's played 350 games
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for Melville he's in the chadam Cup
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Final they lost on penalties but a guy
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who we'd grown up with he played for the
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all whites he should have gone to the
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World Cup but just got dropped from the
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squad so we asked him about how hard
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that was and he talked about Ricky
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Herbert and the Fallout and all these
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things Have you listened no I haven't it
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rough as guts I listened back so did you
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listen to it today yeah just just today
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and there's there's it's it's quite um
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it's quite cute like there's a lot of
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what you're doing now that's exactly the
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same yeah um like at the beginning
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Sheamus you say how you know the person
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yeah um but then there's like real cute
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aspects of it like it sounds like
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there's one microphone yes yes correct
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but I mean like it's it's palatable the
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sound is fine but from where you are now
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like four years on to back then sh [ __ ]
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it's um I'm I'm getting actually
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Goosebumps just um talking about this
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and sharing this you've come such a long
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way we we spoke for about the first 15
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minutes think that Aaron didn't say a
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word for 15 minutes we were just like
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prattling on about who we were and what
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we were what we were doing and then
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finally it was like well let's get a
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chance to hear from the guest Aaron but
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yeah [ __ ] it's a long way and we had a
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moment I think like history's repeated
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itself so Melville Stevens have been in
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the chadam Cup Final recently as well
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which was a catus for getting ezer on
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the show and um yeah hell it's a long
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way away from Steven's garage that's for
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sure that's what it was you you say it
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sounded like a One mic for the first 50
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episodes it was in my garage it was a JB
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high-fi $200 Omni microphone and we just
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sat around a table like this and Shay
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was drinking I was drinking with you
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know the the conversations maybe got a
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bit looser as the it went on I probably
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drank more than than I did now but yeah
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it was just trying to ask the best
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questions to anyone we could get into my
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garage basically and yeah there's others
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other things that have changed um like
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from a life perspective since then like
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at the time you Steve you mentioned you
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got two kids now you got four kids and a
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viomy four kids and a dick that doesn't
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Works enough yeah it's quite so so so
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back
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then by the way we we'll go all the way
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back to how you guys even know each
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other how this um Bromance if you call
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it that began but um so there was no no
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intention this was just like a hobby
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something for you to do we have done or
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did you did you see ly like deep down
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have a desire to Rog in it no not at all
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it was we we were both quite involved in
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the Melville football club and we did a
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few videos before we started a podcast
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we did this video series where we would
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chat to the coaches who are also our
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best mates and we quite enjoyed it and
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we'd always thought like oh [ __ ] man we
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should do something we should start a
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podcast we should start a show I didn't
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know what a podcast was when we started
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like totally totally true and yeah and
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it wasn't until I bought the microphone
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$220 was was a lot of money back then
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probably still is now but um I was like
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oh [ __ ] it I've bought the microphone
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we're going to do it and then I was like
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right Aaron come come across to our
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house on Thursday night no expectation
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of anything it literally just let see
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what happens we it didn't even go out on
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Spotify or apple podcast it was just
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uploaded to SoundCloud I think at the
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time like not even on YouTube Just
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SoundCloud I think and we just L around
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yeah and maybe YouTube actually without
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the video anyway just total amateur
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operation but there was enough there was
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I don't know 50 people listen to it
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maybe and the who who were they just
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friends how did you how did you Market
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it just on your social media account I
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can't even remember Facebook just put it
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on our Facebook on our Facebook page and
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um CU because Aaron's quite a known
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person in Hamilton football circles like
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he's he's quite a big deal in a for a
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small group of people so just yeah our
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friends listened to it and got some good
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feedback so episode two was Paul Nixon
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who was my former school teacher and
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coached me when I was growing up and
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this was kind of so Paul Paul had four
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kids and his wife passed away
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and I you know I invited him to my
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wedding he didn't turn up he got the day
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wrong he got the day wrong he turned up
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the day after but I knew him really well
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but there were topics like that and it's
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kind of been a theme when you put a
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microphone in front of someone it gives
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you permission to ask questions that you
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probably wouldn't otherwise and I
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remember talking to him about that how
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what it was like raising four kids after
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his wife died of cancer and it just I
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was like [ __ ] they're on to something
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here like it just real conversation real
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deep meaningful conversation and yeah it
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was like we we started I think stepen
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you sent me a link
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to um what's old mate's name tools of
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Titans oh Tim Ferris Tim Ferris and it
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was like a section of a podcast of his
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which spoke about asking good questions
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so I think initially it was like we'd
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each come up with 10 questions and that
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was kind of it and we just we just
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rocked it from there and it was it was a
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kind of a had a cult following within
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like Northern League football circles
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and then it kind of grew through to New
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Zealand football circles and then it
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just yeah it kind of gathered momentum
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and I don't even remember our first
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non-f footb guest was Chris Ru I think
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who was again one degree of separation
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worked columnist at the hill joural who
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work who worked with Steven so it was
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really just who do we know and who would
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be interested to come in and that was
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that was the kind of the length of it
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right so was it when did you start to
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think okay we could we could probably
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scale up here and do something good I
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think it was Murray we made a trip to
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Eric Murray's house so up until then we
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had been a football show and we were
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Nobody But Eric Murray and I always
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think of these guys who opened their
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door to us when there was nothing for
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them to game there was no platform for
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them he said come over to my house in
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Cambridge bring some beers and we'll
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have a yarn and we went over there with
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a dozen beers I think he drun about 10
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of them and in the first 15 minutes as
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well he was hoovering he's he's he's a
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big boy though he was up for he was up
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for the chat big dick energy was a term
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coined for Eric Murray like that guy has
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just the the most like upbeat full on
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energy and it was an awesome episode and
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I was like holy [ __ ] if we can get one
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of our greatest ever Olympians to open
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up like that that transcends football
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and Sport this that's going to appeal to
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everyone and it got a bit wider reach
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than normal got some good like Twitter
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was quite big for us back then I think
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like guy Havel or someone like that
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shared it on Twitter and like that was a
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big moment for us because you know he
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had thousands of followers and it's just
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really slow small little gains but
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mostly it just put fuel in our tank like
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[ __ ] that was
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fun
