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often a long time without any sort of reward in terms of you know for the work you're putting in yeah there's some stat
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that I don't know 90% of podcast don't make it past episode seven and because
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it starts off with a hiss and a Roar and you got all these good ideas and then it
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kind of turns into a job which is why people ask like what's your advice for
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people starting off with the podcast do it for the right reasons do it because it's something you enjoy doing which is
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why we started in my garage talking to our best mates and our family about football and
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if it wasn't for that we would have stopped after if it wasn't fun you know
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there was no thought of financial reward or no thought of audience it was just about yeah it was a chance to get out
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once a week it wasn't even actually we li it wasn't even once a week then it
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was just a chance to get out get in front of someone put a microphone in front of them and then ask them a bunch
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of questions which we never really had done so it kind of gives you license to pry into people that you know's lives
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with um without a care in the world yes I came from a good place by the way I listened to that episode today episode 1
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November 2019 um with Aaron Scott who's Aaron Scott MOS a soccer guy football
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guy he's a Grassroots football legend so he just played in The chadam Cup Final
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he's got four kids he's played 350 games for Melville he's in the chadam Cup
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Final they lost on penalties but a guy who we'd grown up with he played for the
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all whites he should have gone to the World Cup but just got dropped from the squad so we asked him about how hard
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that was and he talked about Ricky Herbert and the Fallout and all these things Have you listened no I haven't it
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rough as guts I listened back so did you listen to it today yeah just just today
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and there's there's it's it's quite um it's quite cute like there's a lot of
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what you're doing now that's exactly the same yeah um like at the beginning
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Sheamus you say how you know the person yeah um but then there's like real cute
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aspects of it like it sounds like there's one microphone yes yes correct but I mean like it's it's palatable the
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sound is fine but from where you are now like four years on to back then sh [ __ ]
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it's um I'm I'm getting actually Goosebumps just um talking about this
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and sharing this you've come such a long way we we spoke for about the first 15
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minutes think that Aaron didn't say a word for 15 minutes we were just like prattling on about who we were and what
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we were what we were doing and then finally it was like well let's get a chance to hear from the guest Aaron but
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yeah [ __ ] it's a long way and we had a moment I think like history's repeated
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itself so Melville Stevens have been in the chadam Cup Final recently as well which was a catus for getting ezer on
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the show and um yeah hell it's a long way away from Steven's garage that's for
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sure that's what it was you you say it sounded like a One mic for the first 50
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episodes it was in my garage it was a JB high-fi $200 Omni microphone and we just
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sat around a table like this and Shay was drinking I was drinking with you know the the conversations maybe got a
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bit looser as the it went on I probably drank more than than I did now but yeah it was just trying to ask the best
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questions to anyone we could get into my garage basically and yeah there's others
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other things that have changed um like from a life perspective since then like at the time you Steve you mentioned you
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got two kids now you got four kids and a viomy four kids and a dick that doesn't
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Works enough yeah it's quite so so so back then by the way we we'll go all the way
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back to how you guys even know each other how this um Bromance if you call it that began but um so there was no no
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intention this was just like a hobby something for you to do we have done or did you did you see ly like deep down
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have a desire to Rog in it no not at all it was we we were both quite involved in
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the Melville football club and we did a few videos before we started a podcast we did this video series where we would
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chat to the coaches who are also our best mates and we quite enjoyed it and we'd always thought like oh [ __ ] man we
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should do something we should start a podcast we should start a show I didn't
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know what a podcast was when we started like totally totally true and yeah and it wasn't until I bought the microphone
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$220 was was a lot of money back then probably still is now but um I was like oh [ __ ] it I've bought the microphone
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we're going to do it and then I was like right Aaron come come across to our
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house on Thursday night no expectation of anything it literally just let see what happens we it didn't even go out on
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Spotify or apple podcast it was just uploaded to SoundCloud I think at the time like not even on YouTube Just
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SoundCloud I think and we just L around yeah and maybe YouTube actually without the video anyway just total amateur
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operation but there was enough there was I don't know 50 people listen to it
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maybe and the who who were they just friends how did you how did you Market it just on your social media account I
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can't even remember Facebook just put it on our Facebook on our Facebook page and
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um CU because Aaron's quite a known person in Hamilton football circles like
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he's he's quite a big deal in a for a small group of people so just yeah our
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friends listened to it and got some good feedback so episode two was Paul Nixon who was my former school teacher and
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coached me when I was growing up and this was kind of so Paul Paul had four kids and his wife passed away
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and I you know I invited him to my wedding he didn't turn up he got the day wrong he got the day wrong he turned up
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the day after but I knew him really well but there were topics like that and it's
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kind of been a theme when you put a microphone in front of someone it gives you permission to ask questions that you
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probably wouldn't otherwise and I remember talking to him about that how what it was like raising four kids after
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his wife died of cancer and it just I was like [ __ ] they're on to something
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here like it just real conversation real deep meaningful conversation and yeah it
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was like we we started I think stepen you sent me a link to um what's old mate's name tools of
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Titans oh Tim Ferris Tim Ferris and it was like a section of a podcast of his which spoke about asking good questions
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so I think initially it was like we'd each come up with 10 questions and that
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was kind of it and we just we just rocked it from there and it was it was a kind of a had a cult following within
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like Northern League football circles and then it kind of grew through to New Zealand football circles and then it
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just yeah it kind of gathered momentum and I don't even remember our first non-f footb guest was Chris Ru I think
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who was again one degree of separation worked columnist at the hill joural who work who worked with Steven so it was
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really just who do we know and who would be interested to come in and that was that was the kind of the length of it
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right so was it when did you start to think okay we could we could probably scale up here and do something good I
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think it was Murray we made a trip to Eric Murray's house so up until then we
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had been a football show and we were Nobody But Eric Murray and I always think of these guys who opened their
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door to us when there was nothing for them to game there was no platform for them he said come over to my house in
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Cambridge bring some beers and we'll have a yarn and we went over there with
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a dozen beers I think he drun about 10 of them and in the first 15 minutes as well he was hoovering he's he's he's a
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big boy though he was up for he was up for the chat big dick energy was a term coined for Eric Murray like that guy has
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just the the most like upbeat full on energy and it was an awesome episode and I was like holy [ __ ] if we can get one
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of our greatest ever Olympians to open up like that that transcends football and Sport this that's going to appeal to
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everyone and it got a bit wider reach than normal got some good like Twitter was quite big for us back then I think
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like guy Havel or someone like that shared it on Twitter and like that was a big moment for us because you know he
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had thousands of followers and it's just really slow small little gains but mostly it just put fuel in our tank like
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[ __ ] that was [Music] fun