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There's so many stories of, you know, All Blacks or whoever it is. They come
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from nothing and they, you know, my mom's best friend, she's Do you know Julie
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Seymour, the Silver Fern? >> Yes. >> Yeah, so that's my mom's best friend.
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Yeah, so she never made a rep team, she never made the top teams through high school. She just pushed and pushed and
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kept on going and kept persevering and trained herself to be the best, one of the best Silver Ferns in the world. And
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she She was a Silver Fern captain for many, many years. And I feel like that's
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a great story and there's many stories like that.