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since time began we found ways to settle our differences this town ain't big
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enough for the both of us what you heard looks pretty darn spacious to me there ain't nothing but space but today
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we don't shoot it out we bet it out right draw right jockey man those one shoots out the
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gate bet it out with beta r18 bet responsibly George lock hat welcome to my podcast
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man it's honor to be here brother finally I really appreciate it first of all um who is George lockheart and what
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do you do uh I'm a I guess a Combat Sports nutritionist strength conditioning coach um for just about
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anybody any Champion that you know I probably worked with them either in boxing or MMA I'm so excited to get into
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this chat because yeah you you've you name it you've worked with them like
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Conor Tommy you're here in New Zealand based here at the moment working with um
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Joseph yes sir working with Joseph Parker we've been working together for the last year and um you we've kind of
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hit her stride and really taken off in that year so things are good yeah what have you done what have you done with
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Joseph you know it's funny to me it's the most basic stuff but it's you know
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like um I work you know anybody that knows me has followed me in the past knows that you know like I'm the MMA guy
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I started off in MMA worked with all the MMA fighters and uh it's because MMA
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isn't is a very new sport it's a very young sport so like I wanted to bring my
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expertise into a young sport thinking that boxing I'm like boxing's been
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around forever they know what to do how to do it and then um I started you know one of the first boxers I work with was
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B Jack and um worked with him and he was like hey man you think help some of my buddies are on on the undercard and I
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went to them and they were doing weight cuts and they were doing nutrition and it was like I'm like wow you guys are
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worse than than any other sport that I've ever seen in my life like it's so
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primitive it's so old school boxing like nobody um really tracks anything came into boxing it uh found
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out Joe was the worst of them you know Joe was like I'm like wait you're a
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world champion man um you know so what we've been doing is basically the last
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year we we created a Baseline and now this year we're about to about to really
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take off like really hit our stride and everything El but we built the most basic fundamental strength conditioning
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uh mo mobility aerobic capacity he didn't have any of those when we started and uh he won on sheer boxing IQ and
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tenacity so that that sounds really insulting when you say that bro I mean that as a compliment like bro
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you're so good that like you didn't have any of the fundamental freaking things
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that you need the base you won because you're so tough but you and also he's so
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knowledgeable about boxing he's boxing IQ is is on point and I told him last
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year I'm like dude we start working together and you get these fundamentals you get that base I'm like you're going
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to be unstoppable nobody's going to be able to touch him so so did you how did
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you guys connect did you meet him in morham yeah yeah we were yeah so I was work obviously work with Tyson Fury yes
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he came in with a dillian white fight we had met the second uh Wilder fight in Vegas you know we C super nice guy I
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mean like who doesn't like Joe uh but we first worked together in Tyson camp with
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dillian white he just wanted to see he's like can't try this I've never had
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anybody cook food for me and stuff like that it was more personalized for for Tyson he'd eat the food he's like a
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losing weight and feeling good stuff like that um it wasn't until the Jango fight that he's like hey man can I bring
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you in you know I just got done working with Tommy brought me into moram and then that's when we really started doing
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stuff together and so how long are you live how long are you in New Zealand for till Joe leaves which I think is we're
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here till August right yeah we're to August and you and you've been here for
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months yes uh April got here April so that's a that's a massive call yeah like
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you you you know upping rots and moving to New Zealand for that length of time yeah y absolutely no but it's uh it
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feels like family here you know like uh Joe besides just Joe you know paasa John's brother his wife his little girls
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I feel like it's a second family out here so it's not like I'm I'm homesick
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or anything like that it's it's nice out here so so what does what does a day
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look like um it's it's funny we always talk about this you know like when
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people see Fighters it's like the sexy like oh your glamorous life it's basically like cook clean grocery shop
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go to the gym come back cook clean grocery shop every single day seven days a week um
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but I love it it's awesome you know seeing these things because at the end of the day like you'll do this for four
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months at a time and then all people see is the the 12 rounds you know what I mean or you know it could be with Joe
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coming up in up upcoming fights be a couple rounds but they're like wow man you just you made that much money in two
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rounds like they don't see the months and months that it took but it's you
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know the one thing Simplicity and consistency every single day we make these small small stride so it's
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repetitive but consistency and simplicity so that that is a general day for me cook clean grocery shop and
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gym because I follow you on Instagram and I follow Joseph on Instagram there is a lot of gym time yeah so so at this
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part of the training cycle for Joseph is he is he mainly doing white strength and
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conditioning yeah so he's he's bulking up right now you know so you know it's
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funny he's he was so shocked like he's like oh there's faces and stuff I'm like
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yeah you know like yeah I know I'm like what like how is that even a question
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man um but it's like you know it's like people they keep doing the same thing
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over and over and over again in boxing that is about everybody I've seen worked
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with they have no Rhyme or Reason they do it because it's always been done before and I'm like why you doing this
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right now he's in he's in a phase where we're building like being bigger doesn't
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Al necessarily mean better if Joe gets bigger but his conditioning goes down it's not really beneficial you have to
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you have to out you know weigh things to gain a little bit of muscle you have to
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make sure that the conditioning and Mobility stays then it's then it's an
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Advantage if your conditioning goes up with it and your Mobility stays up with it and your strength goes up then it's
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an advantage but only then so right now we take a long like strength in in building uh muscle is the long it takes
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the longest if I ask you how long do you think a bodybuild like a professional bodybuilder on all the gear in the world
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every steroid known to man how much weight do you think they how much muscle you think they put on per year I've got
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no idea take gas 5 kilos they be 5 lb 5 PB so 2 and a half kilos in a year right
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that's with every steroid known to man and this is all they focused on so when
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people were like oh yeah I packed on 20bs like you proba packed on you know it's water weight it's fat it's also and
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a little bit of misc amount of muscle I started working with Joe and it's like
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so precise like the food he eats what time he goes to sleep the eating the lifting and the thing is he's he's
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Lifting for the first time in his life for real now so now he is packing on that muscle he's packed on about I think
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10 to 12 lbs in the past year which just I'm telling you it's astronomical it's
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insane yeah and we're trying to get like we're trying to get him to 124 kilos by
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the time we leave here what ises he now uh he's 118 wow yeah jeez and he's he's
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looking like he's just looking better than what he's ever looked before early
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in his career he was nicknamed um the king of pies and he was even sponsored by like a
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a place called Burger King he had Burger King bro the stories I hear from this I
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didn't know all this stuff and he's like Uso like before one fight we had a
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Whopper eating competition like it might like like it's funny but it also hurts
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my soul like I'm like before a fight I'm like oh man I'm like you're that good
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I'm like it's so crazy but uh yeah you look at old pictures like he's when he
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fought Joe Joyce his face was so puffy he was like and he weighed less than he does right now so you know he's
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definitely packed on muscle and uh you know things are going good okay but you I might ask a lot of dumb questions CU I
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I know nothing about I've never had a fight in my life um say someone like Anthony Joshua has always been in great
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shape right and looks ripped and then there's like you know Andy Ruiz or Tyson
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Fury who look terrible out of shape so why does it matter well it's the question of what shape is
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you know what I'm saying like if you look at shape like for someone to look aesthetically pleasing it's not very
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hard to get ripped up cut up it actually isn't hard at all you don't actually
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have to lift you know it all comes down to nutrition but to increase a robic capacity power strength Mobility all
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these things you can't actually look at somebody until that you know like um you
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look at Tyson you would not think that guy was quote unquote in shape because you're looking for a six-pack you're
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looking for big muscles but his aerobic capacity is absolutely insane and if you're aerobic capacity mean that you
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can recover every time there's an exchange with a Boxer in a fight your heart rate goes up right now when you
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guys separate if if we're up here and my heart rate can go down to here and yours
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goes down to here every time there's an exchange we do this and then it's like
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there comes a point where this guy is eventually going to break because you have that ability to recover faster than
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him um now if you have somebody like Wilder he has got connectivity right he's got super it's not that he's super
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powerful but if you look the connectivity means the punch goes from the bottom of his foot to the end of his
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hand he's able to knock people out is it because he's super strong absolutely not
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you know the guy can't lift very much is it because he's so big absolutely not
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it's because of connectivity you take all these pieces and then that's what's
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going to create actual Fitness or a complete boxing and I think a lot of people they look at Anthony Joshua and
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they look at he's got a lot of muscle and stuff like that I think Anthony Joshua actually gets a lot of um
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Confidence from that and I think he puts a little bit too much confidence in that
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because there's a lot of times where muscle you know muscle consumes oxygen more than anything else and if you have
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this extra muscle and it's not helping me punch faster harder more consistently
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then it's just extra in as therefore looks [ __ ] you're a genius at the stuff
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aren't you no no no seriously so knowledgeable so okay so um an average day for Joseph so you control everything
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he eats everything D everything he eats every every training session sleep schedule you know everything so you're
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not there for meal time though like he you just give him like a diet plan or no no no I cook every single meal that you
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know so usually like we live together but you know like this is such a long St he actually got me an apartment uh which
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is awesome and it's nice kind of gives me and my girl we get a little little
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free space and stuff like that but we go to the gym every morning so I'll just
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basically set his breakfast first thing in the morning we meet at the gym I give
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his next lunch and snack and then we meet in the gym again for the night workout and then I give his dinner and
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his nightly snack there so you know we got a we got a pretty good schedule goes back to sleep and we do it all over
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again if you're not living in his head he know he's I'm sticking to it no I
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will tell you this I've been doing this long enough man it's it's funny I know
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Joe doesn't cheat and I know if Joe cheats he tells me he's got this like
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but like I've been doing this so long I've worked with so many fighters and
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it's funny because like it's it's it's mathematical like this it's things that
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are impossible people are like ah yeah you know I went to bed at 115 kilos and I woke up at
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117 I'm like you know it's scientifically impossible to gain weight while you sleep and they'll be like well
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I don't know what happened I'm like you ate something I know that you know so um
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the numbers don't lie like I'll know something is up and if something doesn't
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add up um it's usually a sign that maybe he's getting sick or something like that
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and that's us what we pull out but that's you know we I monitor so many things from his from his heart rate his
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HRV his his uh sleep his weight first thing in the morning right before he goes to bed so we know something is
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happening before it becomes an actual issue you know what I mean so you know right when he starts let's say maybe' be
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getting sick we just cut back on actual working out and does he have like a a cheat day
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or a cheap meal or anything is that such a thing or no well you know I guess how you put this he's a
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he's a Lamborghini and I always tell people like was gu going to cheat me cheat this it's like like let's say you
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have a Lamborghini right he's a Lamborghini and your Lamborghini is driving beautifully right and you're
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like you know what you've been doing so good I'm going to put some shitty fuel
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in your system right does that make any sense right but you know at the end of the day he you know sugar crave sugar we
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and he eats he eats sugar he'll have like dark chocolate at night that actually helps him sleep uh like Manuka
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honey and stuff like that his night snack would be a a cheap for a lot of people but you know he loves Sushi and
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it's like time and place for everything he'll have sushi on Sundays and that's
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his loading day especially now that he's gaining weight um but he never you know
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he'll never get like cake or pizza or anything like that you know honestly I
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don't think he ever craves it right so what does an average day look like I know no two meals are the same but say
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an average breakfast lunch dinner yeah know honestly like his breakfast is almost consistent like I need
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consistency especially when gaining because if you have different meals uh you don't know what's working
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you don't know what isn't so like we'll start off with four potatoes so morning
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this is almost what you'll have four potatoes half of a a black pudding you'll have four eggs um two uh chicken
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rashers and then you'll have a whole package of minced uh chicken like a whole package put that all together then
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that's his breakfast you know if he's not gaining any more weight guess what
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you do you'll add like a potato you add more chicken but you know exactly what
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you need to do but you're not adding too much you know um we did shotgun at the
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first time where I just I'm like let's just give him as much food as possible
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but now it's it's pretty you know pretty much the same it's just different I
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guess flavorings like for lunch we'll have a half a cup of rice and it's like
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what what do we flavor it with you know we're going to do bell peppers jalapenos
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we going to make this more spicy we're going to do with more like Co saw and
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stuff like that but I cook everything in a bone broth so it helps his digestive track everything you know everything
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moves fluently um and then the meats I keep with pork uh chicken and then he'll
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have you know he actually has a lot of red meat right now you'll have less red
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meat as we change phases once he starts training camp because it takes a little bit longer to digest right so you're
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like a chef as well I wouldn't say I was a chef yeah know anybody I don't want to
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put any chef down because that's uh disrespectful the chef call me a chef I'm a cook I've been but I've been
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cooking for a long time like I could definitely throw down when it comes to to cooking you know what I mean I make
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good meals um you know people you want to enjoy your food you know that's one
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of the things I never thought in a million years that I would if you would have told me 10 years ago like you're
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going to be cooked oh actually no God it's I've been doing it for 10 years now
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you have told me when I was in the Marine Corps that I'd be cooking and loving it I would have been like you're
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crazy but I love it it's therapeutic and you know there's so many ways to to cook
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a chicken I never know so and do does it pay well it's I mean it's a big
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commitment from your part like moving to New Zealand for half a year yes yes it definitely does pay well yeah and it's
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is he paying you new dollars or New Zealand is is there a difference or oh there's a big differ Dam that's I
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thought I was making it I will tell you I'm star to wonder how anybody out here
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lives like I like I I'm like wait wait a minute like oh I'm like this is a lot of
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money and then you're like w this is only worth half like but then you go to
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the store and it's like a cucumber is $7 and I'm like $7 for like in America it's
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like 40 40 cents you know so I'm like what's going on everybody told me cuz
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you got to ship everything out but I'm learning a lot I love this I love this
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country but I'm like wow leaves me with a lot of questions yeah and um I I I
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read somewhere that you said you plan to work with him till the end of his career
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yeah so this sounds like more of a like a friendship or a bromance oh bro we uh yeah he's my best friend really he's
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he's my genuinely he's my best friend um yeah we uh is it more than like how do to put
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this um when you're close to somebody you be like oh you're going to be the best in
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the world stuff like that like when I told him that like I meant that like I it's not like I'm giving them BS or
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blowing smoke like I told him you know he's believing now like he he believes
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and that's the dangerous part you know what I'm saying like Joe's always been
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this humble guy he such a nice stuff like that and to be humble you have to be that good you know like if you suck
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at boxing and you're like I'm all right you're not humble you're just all right
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Joe's humble you know he's genuinely humble but he like we talk now and he's
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like dude I can beat anybody I can beat everybody and he knows it and he knows it's coming um we share that we share
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commonality we share the same goals um you know and we have we we definitely have a friendship because I mean we
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spend more time together than our actual families and he spend with his wife more
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than I spent with my son you know what I mean and uh um you better like the person you're working with if you're
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going to do that long and um okay so you you've worked closely with um Tyson Fury
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and that's how you met Joe um if those two were fighting where would you be where would I I would be with I would be
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with Joe I would 100% be with Joe it's slightly awkward no not at all no I mean um no I think Tyson um you
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know he he win a different route um this last fight he didn't work with me and um
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you know I I he lost a lot of weight and stuff like that and I think um you got to click with the person that that
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you're working with you know what I mean like as a as a coach I really feel like
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some coaches I don't know if you've ever heard of Tim crater or Dustin porier
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Dustin por is really big in MMA world uh Tim crater was a really good friend of mine he was a former coach of his uh
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Dustin poer was beating everybody in the UFC and his coach I've never seen this
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before his coach is like I've literally taught you everything that you like I I
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possibly can and he was in Louisiana he's like you need to go to a bigger gym
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and that's going to lose him a lot of money as a coach but he wanted him to go
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to a bigger gym and he did he went to ATT in in Florida but I was like man that that's what a real Coach is you
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know people that are like mad because some they go somewhere else if somebody does better and they they
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increase better with somebody else I want them to go with that they feel better more confident with that
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individual and I think Tyson did that and you know there was a huge transformation you know you look at his
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physique and stuff like that um but in in terms of like any kind of awk it definitely but if there's a question of
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who I'd be with there wouldn't be a single question I'd be with Joe I real
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and and he can be the best in the world can be no he is the best in the world that 100% like I'm telling you right now
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like I'm telling you guys everybody going look back like when they they said
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the Wilder fight I was like wait for it Zang fight wait for it but I told everybody um the Jango fight that was
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the first time we worked together you know you know he had the fastest knockout we worked together for six
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weeks and he like the transformation that he had in that six weeks was incredible um and it's just like all the
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stars line you know you know how we started working straight condition together yeah so I was doing nutrition
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for him and Andy Lee and them they were in the gym so we I'm like you guys are
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go to the gym so I'll just go to the gym so I'm lifting and uh they walk in and
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they're kind of like what do you want to do I'm like sitting there like no way
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like there's no real like there was no structure there was no planning I'm like
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what the I was dying you know and uh and he's like well you know have George put us through and
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stuff like that and then I I think it's a lot different than I expected I'm like this is going to
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last this amount of time this am like everything is structured which what you're supposed to do each and SE like
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every day the kind of growth that you're going after every single day CU like I always tell people you're born
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you only have so many buckets a week of energy right and as a as a an athlete if
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I waste one of those buckets on doing some needless activity you know what I mean if I'm doing a needless activity
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I'm wasting that energy you know and in boxers be like let's go for a run like
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why why are you running oh let's you know let's pick up weights and just do
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this for three minutes why are you doing that you know what I mean everything's
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got to have a purpose everything's got to have a reason and a meaning and uh I
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took over stre the condition and they were like holy crap like I I started teaching them you know like first ask
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why you know and I'm like well how's that going to help you box better and
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you kind of be like I don't I don't know you know and then he started learning
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how to do certain things like core like core strength and stuff like that started teaching about connectivity T
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you know talk to him about aerobic capacity and all these things and he's starting to notice it you I Andy started
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noticing this huge difference like wow his heart rate like Andy at first was kind of but then we come back in the
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corner be like how's his heart rate like seeing how much it drops between each
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round every 60 seconds is it is it going down to where we want it to go and if it's not why not you know is you know is
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his muscular endurance off like you know what is it that that's causing so so
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many things but um yeah we it was all by chance and then next thing you know after the Jingo fight
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we just started doing everything together strength conditioning nutrition everything it's amazing because a couple
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of years ago like all the sports journalists here in New Zealand were like oh Joseph should retire like it's
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one fight too many he was done done I didn't know that until he told me that
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cuz you know I do I I'm I'm in boxing but I don't follow the sport like you
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man I never followed the sport like Triple G you know Triple G right he called me they called me one day and I
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called my business partner I'm like hey man have you ever heard of Triple G and
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he's like are you kidding me man he's like Triple G I was like yeah so we
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working with him but I had no idea who he was I love what I do but I'm not like
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watching boxing matches my job is to make you the best boxer you can but I don't know like all these boxers so on
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so forth but yeah no that was um I forgot I was going with that but what was your question oh just about how you
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know the media over here were basically saying he was [ __ ] a couple of years ago oh yeah so and then when he told me
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he's like yeah he's like Uso he's like after the Joyce fight they were like you
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should retire and I was like I had no idea like I was like after seeing you know the grow stuff like that I would
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have thought everybody's like this guy's up in Comming he's like no so they they
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wanted me to retire said I should retire and you know couple fights it was funny
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after Jango he he beat D Jango and uh he's like he's getting his confidence
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back he's like dude we have something going on here and then he couldn't find
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a fight and I told him I'm like listen the the call always comes the problem is
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that people aren't ready when the Call Comes you know what I mean Andy Ruiz like he was training for another fight
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when he had that call that call he got for uh Joshua came at the time he was ready for it and I told him listen we
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just got to be ready and then next thing you know Sai calls you know he fights Keem knocks him out on the third and
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then next thing you know it's Wilder and I I told him I'm like bro it's going to
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go like this and then it's going to take off and I like you just better be the
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right person when it happens and he is and he's still doing everything he needs
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to be doing I don't think other Fighters are doing what they're supposed to be
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doing you know he's he's not staying stagnant he's growing I see we know I
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mentioned on Instagram you were coming in for a chat and did anyone have any questions um I did get one from Joseph
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Park oh no who has a stronger core you or Joseph Parker I hate him I hate him so
00:22:38
much what's the joke well well we started off like so like what we started off he was
00:22:48
super let's say he wasn't the strongest guy in the world like he like blew my
00:22:51
mind like I I would I would laugh sometimes cuz I thought he was messing with me you know Joe likes to joke
00:22:56
around I thought he was messing with me and then I'm like oh no he's not J and
00:22:58
he's serious like he can't do this specific exercise so I had a lot my core
00:23:02
is a lot stronger now like he blows me out of the water in terms of core like his strength is is 10 times and I have a
00:23:08
really strong core in my opinion and you know I think he likes kind of rubbing it
00:23:12
in but as a coach I'm actually proud I'm like you know what that's a good thing
00:23:17
so yeah yeah I I can tell you're proud you can see um yeah just this twinkle in
00:23:21
your eye when you talk about him it's a great relationship and and on behalf of
00:23:24
New Zealand thank you for what you've done to re-energize his career oh no man
00:23:28
yeah that's a blessing yeah now let's talk more about some of the some of the
00:23:31
George lockart stuff so so before you got into this um in your previous life you were a marine yes sir um for like 10
00:23:38
years yes sir um what exactly is a marine and what's the training involved is it is it similar to Navy Seals no uh
00:23:44
well it depends on what you do uh you know so the Marine Corps would be the most specialized out of all the branches
00:23:50
so you have you have the Navy Coast Guard Air Force Army um the Marine Corps is the smallest they have the longest
00:23:57
boot camp they are revered is like basically the most I would say militant of of the branches um I was a Recon
00:24:05
Marine so Recon Marine would literally be uh you would equate to a Navy SEAL you know you have to go through U you
00:24:12
have to go through a screening you got to go through um pipeline like jump School SE School uh RNs rip course stuff
00:24:20
like that so I got to go to a million different schools I went through you know basic digital network analysis
00:24:24
School Morris code School jump School Ser I went through just about I felt like I was professional student um so
00:24:30
for six years I was a Recon marine and the last four years I was a I was a combatives instructor so taught people
00:24:36
how to fight with weapons and stuff like that from in the Marine Corp it's a
00:24:39
great job you get to get paid to fight people which is a great job you know so so to be be a marine you got to be you
00:24:46
got to be tough and smart no no no no no they're definitely not smart that's why
00:24:51
that's why I join Mar if you join you're probably not the smartest you know but uh they they is
00:24:58
craye eaters for a reason like literally that's that's call you what eaters craye
00:25:02
eaters crane eaters craye like you know crayons like the the stuff kids crayons CR
00:25:10
a we're me we're me oh that's terrible um yeah I did some uh Googling about it this morning and um
00:25:21
it said um in basic training you you learn to uh learn to walk and talk like a marine what does that mean uh well so
00:25:28
when you go into the Marine Corps they they break down you as an individual they teach you how to brush your teeth
00:25:32
they teach you how to uh wash your face like you can't do anything you you can't
00:25:36
even use the the head or the the restroom without permission they teach you how to use the head how to do
00:25:41
everything so basically they treat you like uh an invilet you know break everything down so they can build you up
00:25:47
again you know and they do you know and that's it's a it's a great feeling you
00:25:51
know nothing I more Pride than becoming United States Marine it's an amazing
00:25:56
feeling you know you accomplish something and then you're part of A brotherhood that you know lasts lifetime
00:26:01
if I walk into a room and someone's like hey so and so is a marine we automatically click you know my dad was
00:26:06
a marine too so you know it's a like a special Club oh yeah 100% you know I A A
00:26:12
lot of new zealanders probably don't um understand because we don't have the
00:26:15
same sort of pride in our Armed Forces here but yeah when you travel domestically in the states if there's a
00:26:19
military person they get to board the plane first uh there's a real sort of prestige with it right yeah yeah we're
00:26:25
we're in a great part of the country that that you know time in country it's
00:26:29
not always the case but right now you know if you're in the military everybody's like thank you for your
00:26:32
service stuff like that it's definitely uh a lot of people take a pride in in
00:26:36
the military it's a it's a great thing a great time fortunately it wasn't the
00:26:39
same with my dad my dad was in Vietnam and it was the total opposite right it's
00:26:43
crazy it's a fad I think it goes up and down at times and you went to combat Z
00:26:47
say where did you where did you go uh I was in fuah 200 uh 2004 five and six so it was a it was a good time was it a
00:26:55
good time was it a good time what are your um yeah what are your experiences or Recollections of that do you talk
00:27:01
about it or not really uh no I mean I talk about it you know like a lot of people will be like oh you know so and
00:27:06
so saw this and they don't really talk about it um it's like one of those
00:27:10
things like um like like Joe like me and Joe will talk fighting and stuff like that cuz I fought before he's fought
00:27:16
before and it's fun to talk to people about stuff that you guys can correlate
00:27:19
with you know it's not that like I don't talk to people about stuff like oh it's
00:27:22
just so tragic and I can't you know like I just can't comprehend and I you
00:27:27
know no it's not that it's just it's like why would I bring that up to you
00:27:30
you know what I'm saying like it that'd be the most awkward conversation in the
00:27:34
world you're like okay I can't really relate to that or maybe you can you know
00:27:37
if there was a if there was a circumstance or instance that that I would bring it up where it would
00:27:42
correlate with you I wouldn't have any quals with that yeah you know but it's
00:27:46
not one of those things you bring up at a dinner party like a there one time I saw the guy blown you know what I mean
00:27:49
like it's not really the yeah but did yeah did you you see some horrible things oh yeah absolutely I mean like
00:27:54
were you shoad yes Shad BL yeah why is he laughing like it's D no I mean yeah it's
00:28:03
definitely if you I mean fua was like like a hot spot if you read about fua yeah it's definitely uh yeah no 100%
00:28:10
yeah they shot at blown up you know um if you look at all my like the guys that they bring to the mace the martial art
00:28:15
center of excellence guys with uh uh they Marine Corp hand picks some you know a lot of a lot of it with uh
00:28:22
martial arts backgrounds and then obviously combat experience they want uh these guys to be able to to teach uh
00:28:29
Marines basically from their combat experience I was I was handpicked from the Marine Corps and it was it was it
00:28:34
was a great experience and you know being able to teach and you know use what I learned to help others you know
00:28:41
kind of stay out of situations and yeah D did you do do did you take any lives well you don't answer that or no no no I
00:28:49
didn't no no um what about um you said so you said in the training they they
00:28:54
like break you down to to make you fit in so you're no longer an individual when when you leave after 10 years do
00:29:00
you have to like reverse that like how do you how do you go back to being a normal civilian again oh man it's
00:29:05
definitely it's it's transition there's a lot like a lot of people have a very
00:29:08
hard time Marines have a very difficult time um cuz the Marine Corps how how I put this like
00:29:17
you're as a marine you're designed for for one thing you know what I mean like
00:29:21
you're you're there to protect the country but how do you protect the country you know what I'm saying like
00:29:26
you like we you get down to nuts and BT you go to a boot camp they're like they're teaching you the inoculation to
00:29:31
violence to kill somebody or you know not get killed and they don't want you
00:29:35
to think about anything else when I was in the Marine Corps guess what I had to worry about I didn't have to worry about
00:29:39
medical expenses I didn't worry about dental life insurance I didn't worry
00:29:42
about taxes I didn't worry about nothing they take care of everything they be
00:29:46
like lockart you need your taxes done Roger that here's your so you bring like
00:29:50
a folder and then you go to the accting the place in the base they freaking do your taxes but you don't have to worry
00:29:55
about anything and then you get out into the civilian world and it's like you
00:29:58
don't get medical dental like like I got to get all this stuff myself like nobody's teaching me how to do this like
00:30:03
I got to figure out like you feel like a child you know what I mean and then you
00:30:06
get out and you're like they're like what well what can you do and I'm like I
00:30:09
could beat people up very you know I me you know they're like what like yeah
00:30:15
it's not it's a it's a transition you know yeah so uh yeah the Specialties
00:30:21
what makes you a really good Marine but on on a side note the Marine Corp teaches you leadership skills and they
00:30:26
teach you what I always call the suck Factor you don't what a lot of people when they feel things are bad you know
00:30:31
in the Marine cor it's like you you don't know what bad is you know what I
00:30:33
mean um and it's like you're able to drive through and accomplish a lot and a
00:30:38
lot of CEOs of Fortune 500 company are former Marines you know um they're very
00:30:42
successful but you can go one way or the other you know and I think a lot of that
00:30:45
depends on the environment I was lucky enough to transition and fighting is the closest thing with the camaraderie that
00:30:53
I had in the Marine Corps like being with joee and stuff like that we have it's like a a common goal but it's like
00:30:59
there's it's a I don't know with Combat Sports you still have that that grit and
00:31:04
you got that grind but like there's nothing that humbles a man more than training for fighting like I will tell
00:31:09
you this you know you see Joe and you probably talked to a lot of Fighters and they're probably the most humble people
00:31:14
nicest people um and I always tell that because to get better at fighting you got to get your butt kicked over and
00:31:19
over and over again and once you get your ass kicked over and over again makes you a humble person you know you
00:31:24
don't you realize like I'm not the baddest guy in the world so you know when you walk around and everything like
00:31:30
that and you get everything out of your system every single day so you know you yeah see so you were fighting cre so
00:31:35
this was after the after the Marines you became like an MMA no I I was during Marine Corps or over lied oh bro yeah it
00:31:41
a long story on that one oh yeah yeah let yeah oh yeah I got I got uh so I got njp twice so
00:31:47
um so njp is basically like um you're got like going to court you know what I'm saying like they sent me to court
00:31:55
basically I was a I was a professional cage fighter before I joined the Marine Corps and they were like oh yeah we're
00:32:00
all about it a recruiter's going to tell you anything that you want to hear and I
00:32:03
like awesome I'm like you're going to let me fight so I when I went to my
00:32:07
first a school they let me fight went to the second a school let me fight and they want to get Camp Lun um they
00:32:12
wouldn't allow me to fight and um I was like wait what like I was like and I you
00:32:19
know I did a whole you know paper and stuff like that went to my commanding officer and uh you know showed the
00:32:24
safety of actual MMA I'm like look you know this this and this like a ref know
00:32:28
protects and he's like I'm not worried about you getting hurt he's like I'm
00:32:32
worried about you losing he's like how does that make the Marine Corps look if
00:32:35
you lose I was like what so you know what I did I called my manager I booked a fight I booked a flight and I left so
00:32:43
I left I came back and um basically they demoted me saw I was a Corp they brought
00:32:48
me down the last cor and they're like you ever do this again we're kicking you
00:32:51
out of Marine Corp and I was like cool so I booked the flight booked the flight FL again I fought a guy Scott Harper it
00:32:58
was for it was for a title in Georgia and uh I won the title came back with the belt and the Marine Corps times got
00:33:05
a hold of it and did an interview with my Battalion commander and they're like
00:33:08
you know we've been behind him 100% we've supported you know uh Lance Coral
00:33:12
lockart d d and I'm sitting there like what like like I realized the poit like you
00:33:19
know politics of it but you know they were up and down stuff like that once I went to the mace the martial arts center
00:33:24
of accent they let me fight all time I actually won the AFL World Championship while I was in the Marine Corps so it
00:33:30
was uh it was it was an amazing experience getting to fight with weapons and Marines all day and then you know
00:33:36
after I was done doing that all day I'd go to Lloyd Irving in in uh Baltimore
00:33:40
and train MMA all night and then that was basically my that was my life and what's it on your wrist is that a marine
00:33:46
souvenir no the on the LIF wrist oh left no this oh this right here this is something me and my son have my son's
00:33:52
all about survival you know this is just something that me and him share but it's
00:33:55
like a survivalist like this right here is FL so like you can it's like a fire starter
00:34:00
get some metal there's a blade that got taken from me at the airport that supposed to be in there you got your
00:34:06
compass you got a whistle and then you got deck cord right here so right oh that's nice Al so you don't actually
00:34:12
need it cuz you're in you're in Oakland City but uh let me tell you something
00:34:15
remind of your s if you need this you're you're in a world of hurt like if I ever
00:34:19
need if you ever see me in the wilderness with this I'm like okay we're going
00:34:23
to problems oh that's cute how old are you kids you got three right no no I got
00:34:27
one one yeah 13-year-old that's my son yeah yeah he's uh just turned 13 he's
00:34:32
getting big he's already taller than I am so he's he's about six foot so damn
00:34:37
that's crazy yes so you're fighting career so if I've got this right 11 wins
00:34:41
seven losses uh 13 wins seven L1 seven last yeah when you reflect on your um your MMA career what what do you think
00:34:48
like from the position you're in now and all the knowledge you've gathered since
00:34:52
then what would you do differently nothing nothing at all um it's funny in in life you know like you
00:35:01
don't realize what working hard for something is going to translate into you
00:35:06
know um that's why it's like you know always give 100% in everything that you
00:35:10
do even if it's you know like I don't see where this is going to go it's not
00:35:14
necessary that that particular thing is going to take you where you want to go but it's going to give you the knowledge
00:35:19
that will take you somewhere else and it's like um I trained so hard like I was a grinder when I was when I was
00:35:25
fighting stuff like that didn't have NE you know the the talent um and also like
00:35:30
I didn't train correctly I just wanted to spar all the time now that I see these guys like I'm like I'm like SC you
00:35:36
know drilling like it's like the guys that are good they drill over and over
00:35:39
like in MMA they drill over and over and over again they're not trying to beat
00:35:42
each other's brains in and stuff like that they're they're very smart people
00:35:46
Conor Tyson Joe like all these guys like people they they have this stigma Fighters aren't intelligent to to be a a
00:35:54
a good fighter you have to be so intelligent you have to see things see Ang Les and you have to see them very
00:35:58
quickly but I didn't have those you I didn't have that but it gave me the
00:36:04
capability like I started off fighting at heavyweight which in uh in MMA it's
00:36:08
you know 225 lbs is where I when I started I used to be about 250 lbs and I'd cut down to 205 and then I ended up
00:36:16
my last uh when I did The Ultimate Fighter was 170 lbs so that's that's about 70 lbs lighter than what I'm at
00:36:23
right now so it's definitely a lot learning how to way cut never knew that that translate into what I did as a
00:36:29
profession in MMA and help people do it more professionally yeah yes this weight
00:36:33
cutting thing it's um like a big part of um your specialty skill set I guess yeah
00:36:38
um I knowing you were coming around here today I hav listened to a whole podcast
00:36:42
you did with Joe Rogan talking all about it so so for for anyone that doesn't
00:36:45
know what does it mean exactly like weight cutting weight cutting so like weight loss is something that's
00:36:49
permanent right if you're like a George I want to lose 30 lbs that's going to
00:36:52
take some time okay cuz you got to lose body fat weight cutting is the ability to drop weight very quickly but being
00:36:59
able to rehydrate and reload so when you cut weight it's it's not real you know
00:37:04
it's like it's not a real weight so like if I told you not to drink any water
00:37:08
today and you weighed yourself tomorrow morning did you lose five pounds no you just didn't drink water you your body
00:37:13
released that amount of water so with with these guys like uh one guy particularly like Drew Dober he he would
00:37:19
lose 30 pounds in three days um and then we would rehydrate him he had a 24-hour
00:37:23
process to rehydrate him so he go back here and and and and fight again but being able to do that in a proficient
00:37:29
manner where you know it's it's not something I would ever promote anybody
00:37:33
but it's the name of the game in MMA weight the advantage is so big you know
00:37:37
if I'm laying on you if I'm on top of you and I'm 15 20 pounds heavier than
00:37:41
you that's a huge Advantage boxing is not so much and it's it's funny because
00:37:46
like I told you you know I'm used to guys dropping 25 pounds they'll be like
00:37:50
oh man I'm good man I got only got 20 lbs to lose and you have like two days
00:37:53
and they're like calms a Cuban cigar I come into the boxing and the guys are
00:37:56
like dude I have 5 lbs you think I'm going to make it and I'm like like and I'm trying not to laugh
00:38:01
I'm like you're fine bro we're we got those 5 lbs like like that's a burp a
00:38:06
hicup and a fart you think you know yeah cuz some of the some of the stuff I heard about you it seems like you you're
00:38:11
almost flowing in the week of a fight like almost like as as an emergency guy to help people lose weight yeah
00:38:17
unfortunately what yeah is it is it like last worst case scenario sort of thing last resort a lot of yeah like you know
00:38:24
if I work with somebody for an entire Camp it's super smooth it's it's simple
00:38:27
they make weight but most of the time like it's last minute like man we got 30
00:38:32
lbs we you know we don't know what we're doing we need your help it's rock and
00:38:35
roll so so what do you do what do you do when you've got that much weight in that
00:38:38
limited time frame uh well you know basically just this one no I'm telling you it
00:38:44
takes me three days like I do seminars uh you know like I have certification for this takes you know I'll talk for 10
00:38:49
hours a day for two to three days to tell you exactly how to do this but to break it down in the simplest of terms
00:38:55
like I always tell people your body doesn't have a brain so like your body doesn't understand that you can go to
00:39:01
the store anytime that you want right if it knew that you can go to the store anytime you want there would be no
00:39:05
reason for your body to hold on to body fat if it knew that right all it has is negative feedback signals okay I'm going
00:39:10
to hold on to body fat for this specific reason survival mechanism right so when
00:39:13
you go out to the desert right if you go in the desert the first thing that your
00:39:16
body's going to feel is heat right what's the first response that your body's going to think what do you going
00:39:20
need to do if it's hot outside sweat yeah right why because that's a negative
00:39:25
feedback signal like uh oh we can't overheat it's not it's your body's all
00:39:29
about survival so if it's hot you start sweating then what happens is a triage
00:39:33
effect okay what's going to kill me faster dehydration or overheating and then body realizes like okay we're
00:39:40
cooling the body off but there's no water coming back in So basically there systems like the vast suppressing system
00:39:45
is called the RAS system is a reing angiotension aldosterone system basically will start pulling salt and
00:39:51
water back into the body so what my job is to do is override these systems because you got to remember your body is
00:39:56
65 to 70% water it's not that your body doesn't have the water to drop it's that
00:40:01
your body do you have the ability to get your body to let go of that water and that's what my job is to do right but
00:40:07
I've heard you talking about um the importance of things like the sort of deodorant you use yeah yeah that's
00:40:12
that's not really overriding system that's the most simplest thing in the
00:40:15
world a deodorant it's an anti-perspirant anti sweat you know like so when you put anti-perspirant on
00:40:21
you're not going to sweat so when you get rid of water where's it coming from
00:40:25
sweat so these guys are go into the SAA before they go in the S they're putting
00:40:28
deodorant on you're like what are you doing you're like you're making my job
00:40:31
harder bro [ __ ] that's amazing um where did your uh passion for nutrition start
00:40:38
where did that begin when I was when I was young like so I was I was PR Marines yeah oh yeah I was more of the obese
00:40:43
going up talk about 200 lbs when I was 12 years old like I was just a a butter ball and uh you know didn't didn't like
00:40:51
the fact of that so uh started learning about nutrition started experimenting on
00:40:56
a million different things and then you know by the time I was 14 15 got into football American football um started
00:41:03
playing sports and then 16 started fighting and then you know just uh when you have to cut 10 pounds 20 pounds you
00:41:09
learn nutrition very quickly and you started seeing how it affects performance how it affects how you feel
00:41:15
uh recovery you know uh I loved it and then the crazy thing is that you know as a fighter he was all about me you know
00:41:22
and I never thought that you know like watching somebody perform in there would be more
00:41:27
of a you know like it mean more to me than me doing well in the ring like watching Joe kick ass and do what you
00:41:34
know do what he does it means more to me than than anything you know which you know like every time you know we do
00:41:41
something I'm never content with he'll say something I'm like I'm sweating and
00:41:44
I'm like I'm like why is he sweating extra why is he not sleeping this and a
00:41:48
lot of that like we found out it has to do with his nutrition so my ability if he gets in there and he gets dropped
00:41:54
because I didn't um you know do the best I could have done you know what I mean
00:41:59
if I didn't give him everything that he needed you know that that weighs on me
00:42:02
you know what I'm saying so you know nutrition like seeing what it can do with people it's um yeah that but my my
00:42:09
passion started when I was young yeah how how did you get fed just poor diet or oh God yeah my family dude like you
00:42:16
from an overweight family oh so I I have an oldfashioned white father and I got a
00:42:20
Mexican mother right so what that means is that I have a father that's like you
00:42:24
better eat everything on your plate and I have a Mexican mother that's like Miho you need more and
00:42:29
constantly put more on my plate you know and it was like a very bad mixture um so
00:42:34
like I I like the amount of food that I can consume growing up is just so it is ridiculous and you know you don't as a
00:42:40
kid you don't know anything and you know my parents didn't really understand uh
00:42:43
yeah you know but um yeah now that I do it's uh yeah it's definitely fun going
00:42:50
back home yeah CU you're how old are you you're in great shape now this is me out
00:42:54
of shape I I jacked my back up uh a couple weeks ago I haven't lifted in a while uh haven't been in the gym for a
00:43:00
bit but yeah no I definitely like staying in the gym you know training with Joe at Time stuff like that you
00:43:06
know competing with them and starting it's starting to come to a point where
00:43:09
there's not really a competition anymore which I'm actually proud about but um
00:43:13
yeah no I love it yeah so so Joe's the um the latest of the um many incredible
00:43:19
Fighters you've worked with so you've worked with over 100 UFC fighters 11
00:43:23
world champions oh I think even more than that but yeah we'll go we'll go I
00:43:27
mean that's probably she probably got just that in in um boxing now yeah Le let's talk about some of these people
00:43:32
cuz um I I used to be a mess of Ronda Rousey fan and I remember getting really really excited for the fight that she
00:43:38
had with Holly home where um where where Ronda refused to touch gloves at the start Ronda had a real game face on
00:43:45
right and then um Holly home just like annihilated her like immediately and you were you were in Holly's Corner yeah
00:43:51
yeah I was working with her well I mean so yeah I don't take any credit you know
00:43:55
uh wingle John her head coach probably amazing guy he's been with there since
00:43:59
the beginning um but they they were calling from Mar they were you know I was doing her nutrition um for the
00:44:05
weight cut and then her hydration and it's funny the girl is a gangster like
00:44:09
the mixture that I had to give her because they didn't they weren't selling
00:44:12
certain things in Australia was it was disgusting cuz you remember like when you're hydrating a lot of people don't
00:44:17
realize like if you cut like 10 15 pounds the amount of sodium that you have to ingest is not cool and it tastes
00:44:23
horrible and the stuff like we have stuff in America that will actually help lud a lot of that they didn't have it in
00:44:29
Australia so she was drinking coffee with like 9,000 milligrams of sodium chloride and and I was like oh God this
00:44:36
she's like I don't care just tell me what I need to tell I'm like all right
00:44:39
girl like you know there was one fight in um in Vegas that we were work I was working with her and uh it was like she
00:44:47
was in a bath right and one of the things I have to work out is like you lose um you know feeling in your
00:44:52
extremities that means that you know the osmolality in your body is going too L your blood pressure is dropping too much
00:44:56
so if you stand up you're going to to pass out that's a that's a you know it's
00:44:59
a common thing that happens but something I'm trying to watch out for and I I was like we're at 15 minutes I'm
00:45:03
like all right go ahe and get out she's like no I said I was going to do 20 minutes and I'm like sitting there like
00:45:07
this girl is going to pass out but she's like I said 20 minutes I'm standing here
00:45:11
20 minutes and I can tell she was dying but he tell she's going to be a world
00:45:15
champion you know and everybody knew she was going to win that fight and she hydrated properly she did nutrition
00:45:19
properly you know Wile John gave her the game plan and she shocked the world and
00:45:24
there it was yeah yeah and Ronda Ry was never the same that no no never no I think she had this belief and I think
00:45:31
there was an aura about her you know what I mean like I think a lot of times the aura beats people like with Anderson
00:45:37
Sila people were beat before they got into the to the ring you know and um you know we with with Joe I talking about
00:45:42
like with with wilder you know a lot of people they were so it's like if I tell
00:45:47
you don't look at the ground right you're going to want to look at the ground right so like what it's like okay
00:45:52
don't get here with the right don't get here with the right don't get with the
00:45:54
right what are you looking at you like that right hand you what I mean like like don't concentrate on what he's
00:46:00
doing concentrate on what you have to do and then like everything will take care
00:46:03
of itself you know what I mean but yeah no it's yeah working with all these Champion stuff like that it's uh it's
00:46:09
been it's been fun yeah it must and Conor mcgreg so you worked with him quite you you were working with him
00:46:14
before his boxing fight with um Floyd Mayweather yeah right that was interesting yeah that must have been um
00:46:21
just the um the Jos between being a military man and the back of one of those shitty noisy planes flowing every
00:46:28
were in a private jet like very very different Lifestyles bro it was crazy yeah it was definitely insane for me I
00:46:34
mean I'm a good lie like uh we' worked together on the Jose Aldo fall this the
00:46:39
first time I ever worked with him and know you knocked Jose Aldo in 13 seconds we did the first cut dude he was like
00:46:45
there's no way I'm on weight I'm like step on the scale stepped on the scale
00:46:47
he on weight he gave me the biggest hug and he's like dude I want you for you
00:46:50
know I think he wanted me for the rest of the career then we started doing the Mayweather thing and you know it went
00:46:56
from being there the week of the fight to being there the entire Camp so he fight
00:47:00
me out to Ireland then we're on a private jet and I just remember like I've been on a a lot of private jets now
00:47:07
which is really cool but the jet that he had was nuts like there was like smoke salmon everywhere like food everywhere
00:47:12
and I just remember like I'd eat something and then they'd come and they'd refill it and I'm sitting there
00:47:20
like how much can they like how many times can they do this like this is I was like this is amazing it was 13 I
00:47:25
think we flew to from Ireland to LA to Ontario oh dude so here's something I
00:47:31
got to tell you so we're in Ontario this is a I mean this will tell you how out
00:47:36
of the public that like I just knowledge we're in Ontario and um they would help
00:47:41
they' be they would you know I've been used for security too because of my
00:47:44
military background so like I'm doing nutrition they'll be like hey you know
00:47:47
can you watch this you do security like I've been security for Tommy and stuff
00:47:50
like that and um I see this guy walking in Canada and I'm like dude nobody stopping this dude like I'm sitting here
00:47:56
like I'm ready to like throw down then I see I see Conor get up like hey like and
00:48:00
then I'm I'm like I'm like who is that and they like that's Drake and I'm like
00:48:05
who's Drake you know I had no idea who the [ __ ] Drake was like like I still
00:48:09
couldn't name one of his songs but at least I know who Drake is now you know I
00:48:12
mean but that was like the Ontario story it was uh it was you must be know you you surely he must know one Drake song
00:48:20
Right hotline bling start at the bottom now we here start at the bot he sings that yeah start at the bottom now we
00:48:25
here I that's S I like someone must have had that as a walking song oh man yeah
00:48:31
so um people must ask you this all the time it's that's probably a lame question yeah what's what's Connor like
00:48:36
what can you tell us about him Conor yeah oh dude I I love Connor man uh is he Luc unit or is he hardworking and
00:48:41
disciplined definitely he's hardworking definitely hardworking he's goal
00:48:45
oriented um smart you know he's very very charismatic um he's actually a lot
00:48:51
more humble than you would expect we I was working with them in New York and it was hilarious he's like hey you know
00:48:55
George what times with time his lunch I told him and he comes in like so humble and then I'm literally cooking his lunch
00:49:03
and watching him show up I don't know if you've seen the the the press conference
00:49:07
with him and Eddie Alvarez most humble guy and then all of a sudden he shows up in his fur coat like talking smack and
00:49:13
I'm like what the heck like two completely different people um so the the Conor McGregor I think of as the guy
00:49:21
that walks like almost with rubber arms yeah so he's not when you're with him on
00:49:25
his plane he's not walking around like no no but I like I will tell you that
00:49:28
the guy's charismatic and like it's like what you see is way he's not faking
00:49:32
anything he's just being himself to an extreme when he's on on the camera so
00:49:37
yeah no he's a fun like I said he's a fun guy you know what I mean like I'm
00:49:41
I'm happy for him he he's done very well so yeah I heard an interview where you
00:49:46
were talking about this period of your life and you um you didn't do like one
00:49:49
grocery shop a day or a week you were going to the grocery store before every meal so you're going before breakfast
00:49:54
going before lunch going before dinner why is that yeah I just wanted everything to be fresh and at the end
00:49:59
end of the day I was I was very new to this you know like I had done nutrition for a long time but cooking that was
00:50:05
very uh very new to me like when I was working with so the first one of the first Fighters I worked with was a guy
00:50:10
named Brian Stan we and him were actually in the Marine Corps together and uh that's why I was helping them out
00:50:15
and basically I'd like boil chicken and like the food was horrible you know like
00:50:20
and then the the company I started a company and it started taking off right and uh we got a call it was lock Le we
00:50:27
got a call from Demi levado um she's like I I want someone to do nutrition and my partner's like bro we can't give
00:50:34
Demi levado boiled chicken you know what I mean like we got to learn how to cook
00:50:38
so then it was funny cuz he's working with Demi levado and then I get a call
00:50:42
like for Connor and I'm like oh crap I got to learn how to cook you know and
00:50:46
that's basically how we started learning so I'd go in and like now I know exactly
00:50:51
you know Joe always go like we go to the grocery he's like how do you know exactly what to buy how much to buy for
00:50:56
specific amounts of time and it's like dud it's taking so long I used to buy
00:51:00
like a refrigerator full of food cuz I had no idea and then when I'd be done
00:51:03
cooking it'd be like a little meal like this but the kitchen would be just wrecked youd see food everywhere like
00:51:10
you know what I mean like but you know it was a learning process and know we actually you know as lockart and Le grew
00:51:15
we you know we hired chefs and stuff like that and started teaching people not only the nutrition aspect uh but you
00:51:20
know actually how to cook food and prepare food the proper way so been it's been a learning process but you know I
00:51:26
don't actually have to do that anymore I'll go shopping like you know every
00:51:29
other day now you know lot simpler so so you um you by the way you dropping the [ __ ] coolest names in the story ever
00:51:37
like just dropping Dei lado like it's like it's nothing so when we when when
00:51:42
when a celebrity like her calls you like what is she what's her goal what does
00:51:46
she want is it to lose weight is it just to be healthier feel better what is it yeah I you know at the time her her life
00:51:51
coach is one that called you know and she worked with my my former business partner Dan Le for a year you know I was
00:51:57
out there for two weeks and I was like this ain't for me man like I'm not
00:52:02
Hollywood uh what do you mean um with me what you see is what you get like I'm
00:52:07
like I'm old school like youan you listen to my voice like if you go to like could you imagine me in like a
00:52:13
Hollywood scene like nice dressed up like you know it just doesn't fit like I don't
00:52:20
fit you know what I mean um my business partner never had a you never had a hair
00:52:25
out a place like sve you know Swag that was that was his environment Fighters that is my environment you know what I
00:52:32
mean like we get down and dirty disgusting and like let's rock and roll let's get you know get things done um
00:52:38
and I'm not exactly you know my girlfriend tell you like not the most fragile person in the world like giving
00:52:45
advice like you know are you just telling how it is yeah like dude what are you doing like what's going on
00:52:50
what's your malfunction you know like and I'm like oh and with my voice it
00:52:53
always sounds like I'm angry you know like like I'm not mad at you I'm just
00:52:57
trying to explain it in a voice and like a version that you could hear me you know um and especially if I get excited
00:53:03
people are like oh my God like but uh I don't know I disagree like I you know
00:53:08
you're you're a very likable guy I think you'd be very motivating to have around
00:53:12
as part of the team did you make Demi cry did she she did cry was no she didn't dude I was like oh man I remember
00:53:21
oh so oh dude y she stood in the middle like I was in the she just like right like here so I'm in
00:53:30
the kitchen and she stops at the dining room and just starts crying and I'm like
00:53:35
oh and she goes down to her room and uh yeah I remember and uh yeah like I'm like this
00:53:43
is this this I need to yeah I'm not the right person for this but my my business
00:53:46
partner Dan Le and her were very close like they they uh they did very well you know and I you know cele you know Nick
00:53:56
Jon is like we work together like uh Jay Glazer is a good friend of mine he's
00:53:59
like hey man I need uh you to work with this guy Nick Jonas and I thought he was
00:54:04
saying Nick jobis for the longest time and um the friend of mine was like I I think he said Nick Jonas and I'm like no
00:54:10
I'm pretty sure he said JIS and uh we showed up to to the um the hotel and you
00:54:16
know she was like no that's him I'm like I'm like that guy's a little fella you
00:54:20
know like just so but I was I was teaching he was doing a a a show called Kingdom and we're doing so we need to do
00:54:27
some like pad work and stuff like that you know like I'm and working with you
00:54:30
know I just got done working with Marines working with you know professional fighters and stuff like
00:54:34
that and me and him were doing pww work I'm like all right 30 seconds you got it
00:54:37
and and he would just stop and I'd be like you go he takes gloves off and grab some
00:54:45
water put them on and I'm like I don't know what's going on here this is this is so forward
00:54:53
to me man was so crazy and it was funny cuz I got I got along really well with his security team his his uh one of his
00:54:59
head guys was from the SAS right now when you look at like Navy Seals and you look at like Recon Marine stuff like
00:55:06
that like we can all brag about stuff SAS is like that's top quality you know
00:55:12
and I was talking to him stuff and he's like bro he's like he didn't even talk
00:55:15
to me for like the first month he's like you're doing way better than most people
00:55:17
and it's funny ni Jones is like he's a really shy cat I didn't expect that um
00:55:22
really nice guy like d he was he was amazing to work for work with but like I said it was different you know n of the
00:55:30
Marines anymore yeah like you know if a marine did that to me I'd be like what
00:55:33
are you doing you know like you know but with him I'm like I'm looking at
00:55:38
security like I can't I can't grab like what am I I'm what am I supposed to do
00:55:42
like I work for him I'm okay all right man do you know do you but yeah so like
00:55:47
but I think in those Hollywood circles there's something um quite um appealing
00:55:51
or attractive about that like having someone like you around or I suppose like a gogin sort of figure you know
00:55:57
someone that's that's a badass I say badass but it's definitely like uh it
00:56:02
it's weird because uh Fighters they like uh like so have you ever heard of jelly
00:56:08
roll jelly roll is one of the last guys that I worked with before I was working with uh Tyson so he's a huge musician in
00:56:14
the United States and it's funny cuz he's a huge MMA fan like he loves the
00:56:18
UFC and it's funny because a lot of UFC guys love jelly roll they like they love
00:56:23
the the musicians and they love the the actors and he's great by the way for
00:56:28
anyone that doesn't know country singer his biggest song is probably the one I
00:56:30
only talk to God when I need a favor which is a great song yeah yeah yeah okay yeah yeah you know okay good jelly
00:56:35
roll what what were you doing with jelly roll tell telling him to cut down on the
00:56:38
jelly I lived with jelly roll uh oh you lived with him yeah we there six months we went on tour together and everything
00:56:43
yeah it was it was crazy man it was a he's a big he's a big dude yeah he's a
00:56:48
big dude yeah were you helping him like lose weight or yeah we yeah he was doing
00:56:52
good it just it's a very rough lifestyle like you're going I mean we're on that's
00:56:56
where met my girlfriend like on a it was on a jelly roll concert you know it was
00:56:59
uh you know concert to concert to concert to concert and it's very difficult for him it's like you know
00:57:05
you're going from one concert to the next concert and it's like okay well
00:57:08
you're driving 15 hours like when are you going to work out when you you know
00:57:11
like it's it's tough you know so um it looks like he's actually doing really
00:57:15
well right now like in not only in terms his not his Finance but his uh his career he's killing it but he looks like
00:57:21
he's actually losing weight so I haven't talked to him in a little bit but D he's
00:57:24
a great guy you know great work with with him as well too but again different uh definitely a different lifestyle yeah
00:57:31
amazing who else who else you got oh who else is in the roler no bro I mean if you name fighter you know if you name
00:57:38
any fighter you know like Jon Jones Frankie Edgar Dustin pu khabib like we worked with we've worked with all of
00:57:44
them man um you know team worked with KSI it was weird um but you know at the end of the day you know uh I don't think
00:57:55
I don't think me working with celebrities in is anywhere in the future for careers you never know that you never
00:58:03
know you never know seems like a nice nice sedate lifestyle very easier money bro I'm telling you that's I think
00:58:09
that's my problem like I I I I thrive in chaos when things are chaotic I'm like
00:58:15
I'm like calm is a Cuban cigar when things are calm I'm like I don't know
00:58:19
what to do like what's going on here like bored yeah I'm like bored but it's
00:58:23
like you know like you're always on edge like something's going to happen you
00:58:25
know but uh no you know it's it's been amazing in this career you know the
00:58:31
things i' I've I've seen and gotten to do and you know people I've gotten to
00:58:34
work with it's really been an amazing journey yeah and you mentioned doing um
00:58:37
security for Tommy before this is Tommy Fury were you were you also working with
00:58:41
him in the leadup to that fight with is it Jake or Logan which Jake Paul Jake yeah I worked with him yeah he gave me a
00:58:46
call and I was working with Jelly Roll and we weren't you know really weren't
00:58:49
making a whole lot of uh progress so Tommy's like hey man do you have anybody
00:58:54
that you can send out for me I was like dude I'll do it s person he's like you
00:58:57
serious Yeah man so I flew out uh flew out to England it was like that Monday and uh flew out that Monday and then we
00:59:04
we worked and you won got that yeah there was a tight fight there wasn't it that was yeah was yeah I was I was
00:59:10
stressing a little bit on that I me yeah what do you do with him cuz he looked like he was an impeccable
00:59:16
he's never been in bad shape like from love Island a few years ago to now he
00:59:19
you he looks like Joshua doesn't he yeah no I mean he's he's always in good shape
00:59:23
I will tell you this Tommy loves to eat that kid is a connoisseur of food um you
00:59:28
know like a lot of people watch boxing videos he watch eating food videos he'll
00:59:32
watch guys like he'll be like dude I could do that I could totally do that it'll be like a guy eating 20,000
00:59:37
calories and like a it's insane and I'm sitting there looking at him like this
00:59:42
you know this scares me is is my profession you watching this scares me you understand that right but um he
00:59:49
loves food but when it comes down to it fight Camp boom he you know he's he's
00:59:52
very disciplined you know obviously he's he's a fury so you know he knows what he
00:59:55
needs needs to do needs to buckle down um working with him was was super easy and it was I think it was more just kind
01:00:02
of the science when I went in there I just did what I needed like the right stuff and he dropped weight very quickly
01:00:09
it had nothing to do with lack of discipline or anything like that it just had to know what to do and what about
01:00:13
Tyson you have much to do with him uh yeah I mean I I hope so I mean I worked with him uh first time work with him was
01:00:20
the uh Wilder 2 fight which I think that's probably one of the best fights that he's ever fought um he me and him
01:00:27
really we we got really close during that that period of time we we clicked very quickly um but you know we went
01:00:34
through that the dillian white and then I went to go he retired and I was like all right man I'm like I'm GNA go work
01:00:40
with jelly because I promised Tyson I'll work with him over everybody uh we made
01:00:46
we made a little packed and then when he retired he's said go ahead go work with
01:00:48
jelly and then he got another fight and he called me and I was like we made I told you bro like and then uh and then
01:00:56
he called me back for the Nano fight you know so I went back worked with him with
01:01:00
Nano and um yeah and then he started work with another nutritionist this last fight and then um you I've been working
01:01:08
with Joe so yeah I suppose it's timing for a lot of these things isn't it yeah timing the
01:01:14
timing's on or it's not yeah I think timing um fit is another one too you
01:01:18
know what I'm saying like you know if somebody's ready if you're the right fit
01:01:21
at that point juncture in time you know it's not necessarily the the smartest
01:01:26
person but the right person you know what I mean like when when you have a fight Camp it's The Vibes like you have
01:01:30
somebody that let's say they cook the best food in the world but they come in
01:01:34
and you just you're not happy when you're around them you know what I mean
01:01:37
you have that one person your food might not be the best but like they're around
01:01:40
you just feel better stuff like that it's it's a lot more to it than just the
01:01:45
the potatoes and the chicken and the rice you know what I mean yeah you reference your partner Kai who's here
01:01:51
with us in the room hey Kai um yes so how did you guys me on on the jelly rooll oh man how did we
01:01:58
meet she's she's beautiful by the way she's beautiful I got lucky um I tricked
01:02:05
her tell you truth does he make you eat potatoes for breakfast no I I like actually love his
01:02:12
food though she loves his food I pull her in with the food then we were we're
01:02:17
so a jelly roll so we're at a concert so we obviously go to a different uh town every every uh
01:02:24
concert so this is GNA make me look horrible but I saw she was in the vicinity like it was
01:02:31
it popped up on my Instagram she just got done with a modeling shoot like she was U like one of the the runway models
01:02:37
at a um it was like a what was it called babe like just like a a fashion week right and I saw her I was like whoa you
01:02:45
know and I was like hey I dm'd her I was like dude oh my God I was like I just
01:02:49
left there I was like I can't believe I missed you and she like she text me back
01:02:54
she's like you were here and I was like oh my God yeah I can't I didn't go there
01:02:57
I was but I was like d you want to come to a concert today and uh she was she was like oh my God she's like I wish I
01:03:04
could but I can't she's like I'm going home and um I'm leaving tonight so like
01:03:08
crap and it was in Kansas City that we were at and I was like where do you live she's like I live in Iowa guess where
01:03:15
our next concert was oh Iowa next day it was in Iowa I was like no way yeah we met D and that so he went to I was like
01:03:24
dude you're not going to believe this but I'm like d want to do a concert
01:03:26
tomorrow like and she came in in Iowa and then uh yeah we we met clicked and then and here we are how long you been
01:03:35
together shoot it's been almost was it's over a year and a half yeah yeah time
01:03:40
FES cool how good and you're both enjoying your time in NZ oh yeah yeah it's the best we love it yeah she's
01:03:46
always wanted to travel and since we've been together she's she's gotten to see
01:03:49
a couple places Saudi Iraq Iraq Saudi Arabia Ireland England New Zealand how good have got some quickfire
01:04:00
questions here what do you find most rewarding about your work what do you reckon oh God uh what just seeing people
01:04:07
uh just see them Excel you know it's great to see so many put everything that
01:04:11
they have in something and see it you know get the the fruits of their labor you know what I mean like I just I love
01:04:16
being a part of the journey I know you know I'm a small part of that Journey
01:04:19
but it's like I always wanted to be a world champion I always want to do stuff
01:04:22
and it's like now I get to do that through Joe and Tyson and stuff like that instead of being a world champion
01:04:27
once I get to do every like I was there you know these are going to be historical moments yeah and and you
01:04:32
don't have to get punched in the face anymore I didn't want to say that but
01:04:35
yes 100% bro well I I get the feeling um cuz to me that sounds like a nightmare but I get I get the feeling you are a
01:04:42
person that enjoys that sort of physicality you miss it 100% straight up I'm not going to lie that's a oh and all
01:04:51
that makes see that makes sense to me everything that makes sense to me uh there's other like oh dude yeah uh what
01:04:57
are your goals for the future both personally and professionally uh personally I dude I I
01:05:03
want to get one more fight I was supposed to fight uh we're going to do this fight with the Dave naika that that
01:05:08
Joe is is co-promoting oh yes him on the podcast yeah he's a good looking man and
01:05:12
a good fighter a good dude dude's a stud man absolute stud um yeah an amazing
01:05:17
person but yeah I was we're going to do the undercard I told you I was like dude
01:05:19
I want to get one more fighting you know uh my knees are jacked up and everything
01:05:22
for jumping out of planes for 10 years but um and still box so we were going to do a boxing match but yeah you know
01:05:29
personally I want to get one more fight in I want to get like a boxing match in just just for you know personal
01:05:34
Challenge and stuff like that you know I'm not planning on to try to do anything with it just get in there and
01:05:39
and throw some punches get punched a little bit um you know physically you know I I think watching Joe become
01:05:47
Undisputed would be the number one goal in my life right now you know uh that would that would be it you know and I
01:05:54
know that you you say personal that is my personal that's like I said he's my
01:05:58
best friend he's like a brother to me like his family is my family so yeah like I want to see that um you see what
01:06:04
happens after that you know like I'm not actually looking this is the first time
01:06:06
in my life I'm not looking for the next gig yeah good so so f for when you two
01:06:11
get married Joe will be the best man well I don't know about that so so I'm
01:06:16
I'm I've been married three times so I don't know force in my in my future
01:06:22
Lucky Number Four I don't know three time oh yeah wait good on you for giving
01:06:27
it a Craig if it feel you know sa I'm good at it I am I'm a professional I'm
01:06:32
professional at this right now what what happened with the what happened with the
01:06:35
first three what happened no no obviously it was not my fault it couldn't be my fault as ever you know it
01:06:43
had to be them uh yeah know but I I tell you like the one thing in life I when I
01:06:48
die I've had plenty of life in me man you know between marriages between combat military
01:06:56
fighting traveling it's it's man it's been an awesome Road how old you what
01:07:00
are you now 41 41 yeah 41 see and you're still very young very young hey on the I'm 51 old
01:07:08
as [ __ ] 41's young you've still got a lot of Life you've done so much hey um I
01:07:13
put on Instagram you coming over and uh there was a bunch of questions the one from Joseph earlier about the core um
01:07:19
and a bunch of others as well if you could only eat one plate for the rest of your life what would be on that plate me
01:07:26
yeah or just like I suppose for anybody in general that wants to that has limited food um options but wants to e
01:07:33
healthy or clean or whatever what would be on that plan wow the so okay we're
01:07:39
talking I'm G to I'm going to because there's a lot of like it's so funny
01:07:45
um when you know Joe since he's been working with me you know like people will come up and be like they'll ask me
01:07:51
questions like this and Joe's be like wow there's so many more questions that
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like I would be like well what's your goal because if if your goal is to gain
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weight to lose weight is it to lower blood pressure increase X Y and Z so a generalized thing you know I would it
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would be um I guess like a low calorie meal like you talk about one food or just like a a meal one plight so I'm
01:08:13
guessing a meal on a plight that's a tough one man it's funny it seems like a
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su you're like this such a super simple but I want it like I'm I'm I'm anal
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about like uh giving a correct answer on this well I suppose say like the more knowledge and information you have the
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harder a question it is to answer absolutely there's so many variables that are in that in that that question
01:08:34
okay we can skip we'll skip on that one then um what are a few things that everyone should stop eating immediately
01:08:39
uh vegetable oil would be a big one it does have a huge effect on your digestive system anything obviously
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anything fried um if it doesn't grow don't eat it like I it sounds so simple
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but the so simple things create the biggest benefits and the biggest change um I'll tell people this like people are
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like I you know I have the simplest you know uh thought process when it comes to
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nutrition give the body what it needs when it needs it if I ask you what your body's primary source of fuel was a lot
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of people think that it's carbohydrates your body's primary source of fuel isn't
01:09:12
carbohydrates it's fat you know what I'm saying the only time that your body
01:09:15
Burns carbohydrates as a primary source of fuel is when you're Anor robic meaning you're working out you know if
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I'm lifting weights or I'm doing sprints if you're jogging your body's Prim short
01:09:23
fuel is going to be fat but if I ask somebody how many carbs they had somebody that's healthy they'd be able
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to tell me exactly how many carbs how many types of carbs what type of carbs but after what types of fats they
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wouldn't be able to tell me what types of fats how much fat stuff like that so
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give the body what it needs when it needs it your brain's primary source of fuel is glucose which is sugar so you
01:09:43
need to fuel the liver which fuels the brain so fructose fruits vegetables it grows that fuels the brain okay what's
01:09:50
going to fuel the body you know you have your proteins protein through you know like protein through glycogenic can turn
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into a carbohydrate right whereas a carbohydrate can't turn into a protein so eating an excess amount of protein
01:10:02
which has a thermogenic effect like if I eat 100 calories of protein 40% of those
01:10:06
calories are actually used in Breaking the protein down so a calorie isn't necessarily a calorie because it
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increases your metabolism just by eating the protein so Meats vegetables and if you're not working out there's no reason
01:10:17
to eat rice potatoes but if you do work out eat rice potatoes post-workout and you know give the body what it needs
01:10:24
when it needs right what um in George's opinion what are the superfoods superfoods
01:10:31
ah I for me things that I always I include in just about every single meal uh I do bone broth would be something
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that I incorporate just about every single meal um spinach is a huge one spinach or kale is a big one I add
01:10:49
tomatoes a lot um I actually use a lot of pork I like pork actually more than I like chicken more nutrient nutrient
01:10:58
dense but not as hard to digest as red meat um avocado is another big one that I like
01:11:05
um yeah those would be I'd say those and then obviously like Ian I say obvious
01:11:10
salmon I mean you got you got to throw salmon in it Omega-3s oh me too I love my salmon yes love it yes s in broccoli
01:11:16
bro are you into broccoli or not listen I would tell you I'm the worst nutritionist by practice in the world I
01:11:22
hate vegetables like I hate vegetables bro yeah sorry um uh uh where are we oh if
01:11:31
you could take one supplement for the rest of your life what would it be uh for performance I like for guys you know
01:11:36
uh like beta alanine would be one that I would I would take for performance all the time uh in terms of overall health
01:11:42
uh D3 you know that is a huge thing that I think a lot of people are uh lacking you know so a D3 supplement um and uh
01:11:50
performance like I said beta alling that'll definitely help out with performance muscular endurance
01:11:56
does processed food affect um your mental health or gut health I think your gut health drastically yeah I mean
01:12:02
there's there's been tons and tons of studies now I'm not one of those guys that's
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like don't ever eat process I'm like you know like the people that are too far
01:12:11
right or too far left on super things you know what I'm saying like never eat
01:12:14
this and never eat that no um but you know the moderate terminology too I think is
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overused like moderate like there okay what what's moderate if um when you work
01:12:25
out your body becomes very insulin sensitive your body needs carbohydrates quick fast and in a hurry eating candy
01:12:31
right after you're done with that workout is going to replenish those muscles faster than just about anything
01:12:36
uh white bread is probably the best and that's what the glycemic index is is is
01:12:39
off of that is that proess absolutely is it going to be beneficial to what you need 100% so you know it's not a never
01:12:46
or an always I I say so but on the in the long term you processed food if that's what your primary source of of uh
01:12:53
nutrition is it's going to have a a real big impact on your uh on your your gut
01:12:57
binome you're not GNA be able to digest things very proficiently and it's going
01:13:01
to affect your mental health and everything else yeah what about Joseph what would he what's his last meal
01:13:06
before a fight and then after a fight so that's you know the whole purpose of
01:13:10
fight Camp is to find out exactly you know like timing so let's say you're
01:13:15
fighting at 7 and we we'll have a meal let's say uh 4:00 when he spars if we
01:13:20
have a meal 3 hour prior and it's like ah he felt kind of weak then we have to
01:13:23
go maybe two hours you know what I'm saying we'll find the the perfect timing
01:13:25
stuff like that so with Joe we do uh Greek yogurt fruit nuts um and uh granola and uh Manuka Honey on the top
01:13:33
and that's that's his pre pre-fight snack pre-s sparring pre-workout he does
01:13:38
that every single workout before every workout every single sparring match um and it's usually about two and a half
01:13:43
three hours before right just cuz it's kind of light it's light yeah his body
01:13:47
works very well some some people like with uh like the dairy and stuff like that it would affect him but Joe he
01:13:53
feels light feels clean he justed very well what about after those last couple of fights they' been very good fights
01:13:58
does he does he put some bad fuel in the Lamborghini me and her we get on a plane
01:14:02
we take off literally right after like we have it down to a science in Saudi Arabia where like uh he fights and
01:14:09
usually the fight ends at 2 o'clock in the morning our flight's usually around
01:14:12
4:00 in the morning so we freaking go right back to the hotel get our stuff so to answer what he has I'd like to say he
01:14:18
e very clean but I guarantee you Ro serice I guarantee you that dude up but yeah that's cool and what's the um
01:14:28
greatest things you took from being a marine that's now integrated into your
01:14:31
daily life oh everything oh man it's it's it's affected me so much I don't
01:14:35
know if anything has affected me more than being a marine uh discipline Drive um yeah you know I think the one thing
01:14:45
you know you ever heard that saying you know there's only three things that change their Paradigm or our thought
01:14:48
process of a man it's the it's the the places you see the books you read and
01:14:51
the people you meet being in the Marine Corps I got to meet so many different types of people I got to see so many
01:14:57
different places and that opened my mind up to so many different thought processes which opened me up and helped
01:15:02
me learn more professionally and and um you know give me a lot I think better perspective on on things so I'm uh I'm
01:15:11
always learning always always trying to learn and you know I think that was you know something taught to me by the
01:15:16
Marine Corps that you're not the smartest one in the room so listen up to others well for a for a crayon ad you
01:15:23
seem pretty smart it's been a really enjoyable podcast I really appreciate man it's been fun I really appreciate
01:15:28
you having me no it's cool I could sit to your Yan all day it's um a fascinating Insight what a life yeah
01:15:35
what a life it's been yes oh my goodness yes definitely you can't say it's been a
01:15:38
boring life oh George lockart wonderful to meet you thank you so much for uh everything you've done for Joseph Parker
01:15:45
and uh most importantly thanks for coming on my podcast no bro thank you for having me thanks so much for
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waiting for