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I don't think you can ever expect that you'll coach the All Blacks. You know,
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it's more than just a rugby team. It's a special environment to be a part of and
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only a select few get to represent their country. So, I I didn't expect that it
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could be me or should be me. The first person that I called was Razer. Rang him before my wife, before my family,
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anyone. I said, "Mate, I just want to let you know there's something going on
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here." Why was that important to you? Cuz I care about him and he's given me
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big opportunities. You know, he gave me an opportunity first coach together, you
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know, in representative level. We went to Brazil together pretty much volunteering to go and help out those
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guy. I I had a long relationship with them that I valued. There was a professional component and the personal
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one and the personal one's very important to me.