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When I first got out, I was I was pretty bloody down a hole, you know. Mhm. I was really
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down a hole. Yeah, there's a saying that you know, most people are hard not to like up close and
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I suppose that applies to everyone, police or other inmates, whatever, you know, you get to know someone and you
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like >> to know someone, yeah. I was really quite sympathetic. Yeah, cuz I knew a lot of guys who'd
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done some pretty horrible things in jail cuz you know, at maximum maximum security prison you've got the worst
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criminals in the country and I I found that some of them had been convicted of horrible crimes and
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and yet they were actually pretty nice people Mhm. on a personal basis. Yeah, so and I became good friends with
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some of them and um I mean there's some bad people in there but but if you if you judge any
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any of us on our worst day, like Yeah, well that's you know, you won't like
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anyone. You can't be defined [laughter] Yeah, you can't be defined by the worst
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thing you ever did, you know.