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Hello and welcome to this very special episode of the Domy podcast. This is sponsored by Southern Cross Health
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Insurance. It's called Out of the Blue because health complications always come
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when you least expect them. Out of the blue. And our guest today is someone that has experienced this firsthand.
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Some unexpected complications with his hip. Out of the blue. Ryan, welcome to my podcast. Thank you for having me,
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Dom. >> This is cool. This is something very different. First time we've done this on
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the Dom Harvey podcast. So, first of all, um, let's start at the very beginning. Tell us a little bit about
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yourself. Where are you from? What are you studying? What do you like to do outside of uni?
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>> Yeah. So, hello. My name is Ryan. I'm originally Palestinian, but I've been
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living in New Zealand for six years now. Um, really loving it over here. Uh, while I'm studying, I'm currently in my
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final year, actually, final placement of physiootherapy. So hopefully could be qualified in the next few months. So I'm
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very very looking forward to that. Yeah. >> Amazing. Amazing. I'm I'm a big fan of
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physios. I'm a distance runner so they're a big part of my life. >> So I'm sure I'll see you in the practice
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in the future >> at some stage. And you'll ask me on my return visit if I've done the exercises
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and I will lie and say yes. >> Yeah. I I'll pretend that you've done
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that too. >> I appreciate that. Um, what age did you become a Southern Cross health insurance
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member? >> I've been a Southern Cross member since I was uh really young. My parents have
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kind of always reinforced that we need we need this just in case things took a turn from for the worst. So, yeah, I
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think a big big part of Southern Cross was making sure that you always have something that something that has your
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back or someone that has your back. That's that was a big part of it for why
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my parents reinforced it. >> So, >> yeah. and it's paid off big time for you
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already and we'll get into that. But is this is this something that's quite
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common or or really uncommon for people your age like in your friend group? Is it is anyone else insured?
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>> I think most of them have health insurance. Does there's obviously a
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select few who we haven't swayed but um there I think most of us do and I think
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they understand because a lot of my friend group are physio students or are healthcare in some way shape or form. So
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they are they're all very their health literacy is all very good and they understand the importance of having it.
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>> So yeah it's it's quite a common thing amongst I think people who have gone
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through the degree and have an adequate amount of health literacy. I think that's a that's a common theme around
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us. >> Oh that makes sense. Now you're clearly someone that values um physical fitness.
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What does a typical week look like for you in terms of your training and staying active? Yeah, a typical week is
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on a good week where I'm not feeling lazy. I I do love the gym. I do love going on um hikes. Do love um just doing
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outdoor stuff. I do love spending a lot of time with my family. We do this. We have every night. It's a a theme. We all
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make a pot of tea and we all sit and talk about our day and it's just that it's the small things I really enjoy.
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But I also physical fitness is something that's really important to me, especially after everything that's just
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happened. I think it's important that that me move and I just I don't know. I
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I'm just not someone who can sit still as I'm sure you could tell me just
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rocking my legs this entire time. >> I'm the same. I'm the same. Yeah. Um
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Yeah. What does exercise mean to you? What does it bring to your life? >> Yeah. I think exercise is just it
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basically for me I I think exercise is a part of it but movement is we need to really count our blessings on that.
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Movement is such a thing that's so undervalued and once you've lost it like
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yes you can regain it but it becomes a little more difficult. I think for me, exercise is just a way to kind of it's a
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way for me to work on myself, a way to address your holistic well-being. That's
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a that's a big part of it. It's yes, your physical health improves. Yes, your
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squats improve your deadlifts, all that type of stuff. But also, it's how that
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improves your mental health and how that improves your like everyday life. And I
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think that's something that's so that's so important with exercise is making
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sure that or at least having that improvement in your mental health. That's that connection for me is been a
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game changer. >> Yeah, >> I agree. It's not something that's
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talked about often enough. Like everyone knows about the benefits of exercise from the neck down. Um but the mental
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health benefits associated with exercise um are just incredible. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's not something I
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feel like it's not something you can know, but you won't really understand
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until you've like been in the gym or been exercising or been doing kind of your physical hobby. You don't
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understand kind of the impact it has on your well-being >> in lots of different aspects. You just
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feel you wake up feeling a little better. You wake up feeling less brain fog. You wake up
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>> actually wanting to get out of your bed. You know, >> I I it's it's really un it's always
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something that you hear people say, "Oh, yeah, you should go to the gym. It's
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good for your physical health. It's it's good for your mental health." But once
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you actually realize that that kind of that rhetoric is actually correct, it it actually does make significant changes
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in your life. >> Yeah. the self-esteem boost you get, eh? >> Um, yeah, getting sick sucks for
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anybody, but when you're a person that um values and prioritizes their physical
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health, it it sucks even more, I think, when it's something that's taken away.
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How was your mental health over that time when you got unwell >> w with my with my hip issues? I think it
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was it was a it was progressive. That's what it was. Like it just once I noticed
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my physical health decreasing, I started noticing like I'm withdrawing from activities. I'm I'm not doing things
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that I used to do. I'm not getting up um not getting up as much as I used to. I'm
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not going to the gym, not having that motivation. It's kind of like I felt like as my function deteriorated and as
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I started noticing uh the pain and debilitation a lot more, I started noticing that I was Yeah. It just
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started getting worse than mental health. And >> I guess at that point I was you kind of
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you kind of miss that you were able to just get up and run. You miss you're able to just get up and go to the gym.
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And now I was finding like set sitting to standing really painful. And I every time I'd walk I'd just get this ache in
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my hip and it would start locking and I'd start tripping over. And I'm like
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I'm at the time I was like I'm 20 years old. But I'm not I'm not in my 80s, you
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know. >> So I think the effect it had on my mental health was quite significant to
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be honest. Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz the things that you would have taken for granted your entire life that
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suddenly you can't do anymore. >> Yeah. >> So um yeah, what happened? How did it
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all begin? >> I think it all began with me realizing in the gym that I could never squat as
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much as my mates. So I know that's it seems a bit funny to have that competition and stuff
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>> in terms in terms of the the amount of weight or in terms of the depth >> in terms of the depth. Okay.
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>> My mates were always more flexible. It's like it was this ongoing joke that I
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have no flexibility and all that stuff. And I think just over time the more I went to the gym the more I noticed like
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okay um something isn't entirely right. and my hips just started hurt. the left
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hip started hurting >> quite a lot over I'd say 2023 that's probably when it started when I started
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actually fully gyming properly like frequently and >> I I think that the pain just
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progressively became worse and the amount I could tolerate became worse and I'd say start of 2024 I started seeing
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the massive changes in okay wow it's actually why is it hard to get out of bed and then Over time, it just became
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more and more like, oh, why is why is walking hard? Why is why am I finding my squats getting worse so my mates are
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winning? You know, that that that type of thing. And I think it it didn't it
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wasn't until I'd say mid2024 when my physio was reassessing my left hip that
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he was like, "Okay, um, something's not right here." And I think that validation
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was huge that, okay, there's something not right. It's not just it's not just
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your brain. It's not just in your head. And that's when we went off for specialist opinion. And by the time that
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by that time of the specialist opinions, that's when my function had gotten to to
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its worst. I just started every time I'd go in a little even jog for a second,
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the pain would just skyrocket and stay there. or when um I'd do a weird movement or when I'd you know it it was
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just it was quite like quite like well why I why am I moving so so like it unorthodox? It's it wasn't
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>> it just wasn't it wasn't normal. That's what I was saying. And I noticed it
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wasn't normal and that's when I started just every day became it became a chore
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to go in a walk. it be gave it chore to even get into the car and do those movements to get in and out of the car
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and that was it was all just really painful >> and eventually once you get the
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validation that okay there is actually something wrong here um it's it's not
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mental you there's something we can actually do >> that's that's when I feel like things
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started going back up the trajectory started improving >> yeah how how long do you think you were
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suffering in silence A lot of my mates won't say it with silence because but but yeah
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>> you know what I mean before seeking um you know some some professional opinions.
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>> Yeah. I think I think it was a good solid year because I it was kind of like
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intermittent in and I'd say in around 2023 time around 2024 it became constant. I think it was a solid year
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where I wasn't really doing much and yeah, I I just think it took it took a turn for the worst. So, it took me quite
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a while, I'd say, to to get it checked out because I was like, I'm young. I'm
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fit. Surely it will go away. Surely when you're younger, your healing abilities
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are better. That that type of thing. But it just actually didn't get better. And
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I remember one of the surgeons saying, "Look, look, man, it's not going to get
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better by itself. This is something that needs to be treated." Like it's that I
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think that that really hit hit home and I was like, "Oh, so if I just left it, I
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would have just been in the same boat as I am in now." >> That's what it's kind of what the
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thought process was at that time. >> And the diagnosis, um, yeah, that must
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have been a relief. >> Oh, yeah. >> If if I was you, I'm probably here, but
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my mind would have been just going crazy. I would have been like googling symptoms. And that always takes you down
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a very dark and dangerous hole. >> Yeah. I was I was googling non-stop going back to my lecture slides. I was
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even using chat GPT to Google my symptoms like chat GPT for my symptoms and yeah I I think a big thing of being
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a healthc care student and actually knowing about conditions a big thing of it is catastrophizing and
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catastrophizing once you're in that feedback loop from hell you're stuck in
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it. So I feel I always kept telling myself, "Oh yeah, it could be a fracture. It could be this. It could be
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this." But actually I I needed someone to look at it. So that's when I once I
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found myself in that loop, I was able to take a step back and be like, "Okay,
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that maybe we need a prof professional opinion, not some at the time, not some thirdyear student who's who's just read
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things off a textbook kind of thing." I >> I think that cat catastrophizing thing
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is human nature. >> Yeah, definitely. >> Across the board. So what were you
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diagnosed with? What's the name of the condition? >> So I initially had had a laboral tear in
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my hip. So lab is just kind of like that shock absorbing gel-like structure in your hip and it just kind of stops the
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shock from being transmitted to kind of like your bones and stuff. >> And then I also had some cartilage
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damage. We we call it medically it's a condra flap lesion. But I also had something called femoraset tablo
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impingement which is just like a bone bone growth on your hip from like repetitive traumas or can be from birth.
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I'm pretty sure imagine my supervisors listening to me on this being like that's so wrong. So I'm really trying
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here. >> You're sounding really knowledgeable. >> I'm glad. I'm really glad.
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>> Hopefully you don't fail your papers because of this podcast. >> Yeah. I hope not. Surely they sure
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they'll understand. It's off hours. But um yeah, there there's that. And I also
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so I did I ended up getting my my labum repaired. I ended up getting a bit a debridement just a wash out of like the
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damaged pieces. And I also had an osteoplasty where they basically reshaped um my hip so it can have well
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the top of the hipbone so it has good better movement. And I am honestly the left hip's probably better than the
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right hip right now >> which is which is crazy considering >> wow >> what's happened?
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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. So so why physio? Where where did your passion for physiootherapy come
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from? Was there a moment or experience that led you down that career path? I >> I think that um a big one was my
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experience with that. I growing up I had like these dizziness balance problems and I I went and saw um a vestibular
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physio which is like nobody knows what they do but >> I've I've literally never heard what's
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the V word >> vestibular like it's like your inner ear stuff. >> Never heard that word before in my life.
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>> Yeah, it's like your inner ear disorders. We went and got treated by
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one and I saw how just like honestly the technology I can't remember like specifically what the names of the
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technology were but there were these technologies that could give them like real time feedback on what I was doing
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and I I just found that like so cool to use that technology and I thought in the
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future how cool I'd look if I was using that but also I think how the exercises
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what they the exercises they gave me were just a simple thing put your thumb there and kind of put your eye there and
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just just shake your head while looking at it. Stabilize on that. And I just saw
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how that actually completely shifted my quality of life. Yeah, it was like it was arduous the whole process. But I
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just saw how like I became better. I was able to go to school without feeling well like crap basically and I was able
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to go and I was able to run and do all that sort of stuff. So I think at that point I saw how it improved my quality
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of life. And I think for me it wasn't about curing things for people. It wasn't about coming up with this and
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being in a lab pouring potions together. For me it was what can I do? What relationships can I build that can help
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people get back to what they were doing or get back or or get to do what their goal is.
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>> I think for me that was that was why physio medicine was too hard. So I had
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to find an in between as well. I think just to put that on there. >> Oh, it's it's a really cool really cool
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occupation in the respect that you are literally like improving someone's quality of life and unlike a lot of jobs
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like when you when you lose a patient or you stop seeing them um it's a good
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thing because it means the job's done. >> Yeah, I know. It definitely is a good
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thing. And I've I've had experiences on placement where you've just helped
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people get to the bathroom when previously they were just stuck in the bed, you know, and even something as
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simple as that is like just helping them walk up to the bathroom. That is so rewarding. And you see the look in their
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eyes when they've done something they haven't been able to do. And I think
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that kind of the basis of our species is being social butterflies. And I think that
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>> plus my personality and plus with what I've experienced that's I felt like it
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was the perfect role for me. >> And especially seeing post-operatively with my hip and everything, seeing how
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much my physio helped me and how how good my function is now. And I think seeing seeing what he's done has just
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make it's just it just further reinforces what I want to do. I want to be able to get someone from walking and
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tripping over because the hip isn't is keeps locking and and just being in all
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that pain to, wow, they're actually doing hops. They're actually doing jumps. They're actually going on hikes.
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I I don't know if I mentioned already, but I went on a hike the other day. It
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was Kangahake and I just like I think I mentioned I saw I saw the light at the end of the tunnel and there is a tunnel
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there. So you literally saw the light at the end of the tunnel. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I just clocked that. But
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yeah, we did walk in the tunnel. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was cool that. But I was like I remember walking we went on one
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of the mountain walks and I just remember being at the top like >> wow like physio played a massive role.
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What I'm doing is going to get people from literally hobbling around to walking up mountains. And I just think
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it was so surreal in that moment >> when I was just looking out looking out
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at um the view. I was actually I was actually frightened as cuz I don't like
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heights. But I also was looking out at the view being like I wouldn't have been
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able to do this a year ago. Like this completely that wouldn't even be out of
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the question if my mate before they even finished the sentence of do you want to
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go on a hike? It would have been no. And now I'm walked up 3 hours. I know it's
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not the hardest walk in the world, right? It's no like Mount Rae who walk but it's for me that was so so
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lifechanging just doing that walk up the mountain. So that's kind of like where
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my passion came that you can get people to doing things that they never usually used to do or that they're finding
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difficult to do you know >> through your training as a physio. Were you familiar with the condition? Like is
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this something that Oh, you'd studied it. >> Yeah, that that's why it was weird.
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That's why it was weird. I I literally remember the lecture where I'm just
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sitting there and I'm like h like that's a it's an unfortunate condition. Like
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I'm just reading through it and the type of operation and it kind of just goes
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over your mind. It's it's kind of this weird reality when you're like oh I am
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what that what that lecture is saying or I am what that condition is. Like you that's a thing when you go through any
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healthcare degrees like you look at all these different conditions and you never
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think that you're going to have it. You never think that you're going to suffer
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like that if you know what I mean. You never >> It's always someone else.
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>> Yeah, it's always you're always thinking of someone else. But then when you
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actually have that condition, you're like it's it's such a trippy feeling.
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It's it was it was weird. So I actually knew the condition. I was quite well
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verssed in the path. We call it pathologies. >> I I kind of I understood it but
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>> like you don't think about the usually you're just like okay this person might
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have this this and this symptom X Y and Zed. But then with with me, I'm like,
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"Oh, I have X, Y, and Zed condition." And that was Yeah, it was it was a
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really weird experience to actually feel the symptoms that they were feeling because the empathy changes then. So now
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when I see someone who's who's having hip problems, the empathy is always
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going to be different now because of what I've gone through. >> Oh, 100% deeper level of understanding.
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Yeah. >> So what role did your Southern Cross Health Insurance play in your journey?
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Honestly, every the way that they all all the health care professionals interacted with each other, the way that
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they funded the surgery was a really Yeah, that was that was a game changer because it surgeries aren't cheap, you
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know, like they nobody ever claimed that they were they aren't they aren't cheap.
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So I think them helping out by funding it was it actually just got the ball rolling knowing that okay well this
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who's going to pay pay this massive bill it's not going to be us. So I think that
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was the first step was that but also kind of the care that the providers that there was just so much so much passion
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in what they do the providers and Southern Cross helped with post-operative physio as well. So like
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it was very it was a big part of my journey and that's why I was like I was happy to come and talk about it.
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>> Such a relief. >> Oh massive. >> Yeah. And how quickly were you able to
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get you know scans see specialists and get the surgery done? >> I think it was it was relatively quick.
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The scans like X-rays and stuff but they were quite easy to get. >> Um you could kind of like just refer
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walk in. The MRI does require specialists to do it. So yes, the wait was still a few weeks, but people who
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have have my condition wait a year or sometimes a really long time to get to get the appointment to get those MRI
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scans and all that stuff. So it's the fact that that process was sped up for
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me. >> I think that was I think that that made my life a lot easier in the long term as
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well. And also just timing wise when the hips started getting really painful and
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like debilitating. That's when first placement the year nearly started again. So there was the
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question of am I going to be able to go and do what I'm passionate about go do
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my final year get my degree or am I going to have to take a year off to focus on recovery and all the Southern
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Cross providers made that process easier. It's like it's why I'm here
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today to be honest. >> I can I can tell you how grateful you are. Yeah, it's yeah, so grateful. It it
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really Yeah, not everyone gets that opportunity. So, I was I feel I feel really lucky to have been able to go and
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do what I really I want to do. And I want other people to have that ability as well.
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>> That's the thing. >> Are any or many of your mates the same age insured?
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>> I think most of them are insured. It's just some I think some people don't
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really have the understanding of what health insurance is. It's it's immediately seen as like this this taboo
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this oh it's expensive but if you kind of look at the pros and the cons I feel
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like for me I know I have a bit of bias towards that but for me the big the pros
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and the cons the pros outweigh them completely >> like it was >> it was it was just such a it was such a
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handy experience and the fact that my quality of life now is better than it was then and they facilitated this
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journey I I do recommend it but yeah some most of My friends do have it, which is thankful.
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>> Are all your friends like, "Yeah, Ryan, we get it. You stop going on about it.
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That guy in the friend group now." >> Yeah. Honestly, just that guy who's
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like, "Okay, we we got it. You had the operation. Why is it still being brought
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up?" >> Yeah. Okay, Dad, leave us alone. >> Yeah, it's exactly that.
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>> Have you thought about how different the experience could have been without
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Southern Cross Health Insurance? >> Yeah. uh given that way too much thought
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a lot of like sleepless nights went into when I was like am I going to be able to
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get this operation or not cuz I don't think I can do this fun I don't think I
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can function with this much pain and debilitation anymore. I I was I think there was if I didn't have Southern
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Cross I definitely would have missed this year of placement have had to prolong the degree for a year and then
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not had something to work with. I think it's for me it's very important that I
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have something to work towards a big overarching goal whether that's uni or back in the day whether that was school
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or whether that was or in the future whether that's getting good at the job and progressing towards things. So
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>> I feel like that goal wouldn't have been able to be achieved without like
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Southern Cross's intervention. >> I really don't think so. So yeah, I
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definitely would have just been at home been my quality of life would have been better from the operation, but
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you know, it's it's it's hard to say what would happen, but I don't think it
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would have been as good of an outcome as it is now. >> Yeah. >> And you're back at the gym now doing all
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the things you love. >> Yeah, I'm happily back at the back at the gym. Back I I did a hike the other
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week. Um don't if you know the Karanga Hake Gorge. >> Oh, do I know it? Yeah. Yeah. By Pawa.
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It's beautiful. It's awesome. Wow. >> Yeah, I did that walk. I know it's not
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the the hardest walk in the world. But for for me, like I remember saying to my two mates when we were on there, I was
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saying, I'm actually doing this like a year ago from now would that that wouldn't even have been a like I
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wouldn't even have like given it thought to do it. And here I am actually going
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up the mountain. It was honestly that was that was so different. And then you take I think for me it was that this
00:24:52
actually worked. Everything worked out well and there's always that light at
00:24:56
the end of the tunnel and for me while I was walking up I was like I was not in pain in my hip. I was like keep mostly
00:25:03
keeping up with them. >> Yeah, mountain walks are tiring. So >> ironically in the uh the gorge you're
00:25:10
talking about there actually is a tunnel with a light at the end. >> Ironically. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even I
00:25:16
didn't even clock that. Yeah. We actually walked through it. Yeah. >> So you literally did see the light at
00:25:21
the end of the tunnel. There actually was a light at the end of the tunnel. That's
00:25:24
>> And what about your your squats? How's your you back doing leg day at the gym?
00:25:28
Must have been nice for a while having an excuse not to do leg day. >> Yeah,
00:25:32
leg day was Nobody likes leg day, but >> but no, it's been it was weird for me
00:25:37
cuz now leg day's become my favorite day because you you ne I neglected it so
00:25:41
much last year to the point where I'm like I I can't lift a heavy squat anymore. Can't do that. But now it's my
00:25:47
favorite day. I'd go do it every day if I could, which is unpopular opinion,
00:25:51
>> but it's just when you're deprived of it for so long, you start being like, "Oh,
00:25:56
it's actually not that bad and all that." It's not >> Yeah. a new appreciation for it.
00:26:00
>> It is like even for something as something as awful as leg day, you start
00:26:05
being like, you know what, you're not so bad. It's not so bad. >> You know,
00:26:09
>> has this experience um changed how you view your own health? >> I think so. Yeah. I think it it kind of
00:26:15
show I think we had a little chat about it beforehand that like exercise actually has such an such a positive
00:26:21
influence not just on rehab but everyday life. It's kind of it's made sure I do
00:26:26
my physio exercises. Yeah, I know. >> No one does the physio. >> Nobody does. But it actually made me
00:26:33
want to do them constantly. And now every time I get an exercise I make sure that I'm doing it. And I think
00:26:40
>> it just showed me that movement was a blessing. >> It like there's there's a lot of things
00:26:46
to appreciate in the world, but the fact that we're able to move, the fact that
00:26:49
we're able to kind of just do small things, get up and get a glass of water,
00:26:54
it it's so it just made me appreciate every small thing in my life because I
00:26:58
saw how much it changed. can't imagine someone who's in a worse situation
00:27:02
>> than I was and like it's just it just makes a mess of makes you really count
00:27:08
your blessings like oh I've just got I've got up out of bed to to like go up
00:27:14
to the bathroom and to go get water and it's that not everyone can do that. People require like full-on support to
00:27:20
do it require full assistance to do those things. So I'm very grateful for Yeah. very grateful for movement. So
00:27:27
like the message is continue moving even even small amounts is the message. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. It's still it's
00:27:34
still quite fresh for you but yeah you you want to hang on to that gratitude. Eh yeah
00:27:38
>> and never never forget this feeling you've got now. >> Yeah. I want to be that that like I want
00:27:42
to be one of those 90-year-old guys that are just walking around without any aids. That's kind of it's kind of like
00:27:48
where I want to be in the future. I want I want to make sure I prioritize my physical activity because it's it's not
00:27:53
just good for your physical health. your whole psychosocial well-being gets better just from physical exercise as
00:28:00
well. And yeah, that whole that whole concept of kind of, you know, tifata, that whole holistic well-being is very
00:28:09
important. >> Yeah. Yeah. I feel the same way about my running. I mean, all all along, all
00:28:15
through my life and all through your life as well, we've always been aware of
00:28:18
the um the benefits of exercise from the neck down. Yeah. >> Um but the mental health benefits e
00:28:22
>> Yeah. >> Incredible. It's that yeah it it's game changers for your mental health if you
00:28:27
can get up and move >> as much as you can. >> Uh what you've been through the last
00:28:31
couple of years um how has it shaped your future as a physio? Like do you think you'll approach patients
00:28:36
differently now? >> Yeah, I think obviously I have to get some experience first. But I think it
00:28:42
would just make me believe in what they're saying and have empathy towards what they're saying that even if you're
00:28:50
not if I don't have the same exact condition or the same exact pain or problems in my life, I can take a moment
00:28:56
to sit and empathize with them and show them that like yeah, I do I do get what you're saying. something similar has
00:29:03
happened to me and I've turned out well and I'm not the most athletic or most
00:29:09
most sporty person ever and it I had such a good outcome. It's kind of it just changes it will change how you
00:29:17
>> see people and how you see that it's not just a condition or a problem. It's the
00:29:23
person behind the problem that what is the condition? What is it causing? Is it causing are they not able to do their
00:29:29
everyday activities? and they're not able to do their hobbies, that type of thing. So, makes you see them as a whole
00:29:36
person rather than as just a condition. That's what this whole experience has
00:29:40
shown me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Even though it's an awful thing to go through, it it does kind of in a way
00:29:45
put you um at a position of advantage over your peers. Eh, >> yeah. >> Having gone through this.
00:29:50
>> Pros and cons. >> Yeah. Pros and cons. Yeah. Obviously, I would prefer not to be put under
00:29:55
anesthesia, but >> No, it it definitely does. It gives you kind of like puts you in their shoes.
00:30:01
That that's that's the best way to explain it. >> Yeah, that empathy piece that you talked
00:30:05
about earlier. And >> what's next for you professionally and personally?
00:30:08
>> Yeah, I think professionally what's next for me is seeing where once I finish the
00:30:12
degree and if I once I get registration. I was going to say if I'm going to be
00:30:17
positive once I get registration and start working for a bit. I think but next for me is I think it's going to be
00:30:24
a long shot. I know a lot of my mates are going to be laughing when they hear this, but I I do want to do a marathon.
00:30:30
>> Maybe hopefully 2026 can be they'll start with a half. I'll be realistic
00:30:34
with it. But I think to do a half marathon is probably my next thing. I I think that that's a good goal to go up
00:30:41
to. And even just small things like getting into summer footy again, getting into getting more time in the gym,
00:30:49
getting more time doing hikes. I think I'm going to make the best of my movement and best of like the blessings
00:30:56
I've got with my body. >> Yeah. A life without restrictions. How good.
00:31:00
>> I know. >> And um finally, what would your message be for anyone who thinks they're too
00:31:03
young, too fit to worry about health insurance? >> Yeah. I think if if you can, these are
00:31:10
conversations you can have with like if we're talking like young people can't
00:31:15
help like support themselves who aren't self-sufficient. I think it's definitely
00:31:19
something that that it's conversation you should have with your with your caregivers because it just your your
00:31:27
world's your avenue and if you have resources to kind of take those different turns I think definitely take
00:31:34
it and to people who I guess my age a bit kind of young adults um if you're self-sufficient I know that it's like
00:31:42
expensive but also at the end of the day that your health comes first, your physical, mental, like everything comes
00:31:54
before other things. It's not a material I think people view health insurance as
00:31:57
a materialistic thing. It's it's really not really. It's a >> it's a very I feel like it's a necessity
00:32:05
to make sure you're well equipped for the worst case scenario >> for if it does happen.
00:32:10
>> Yeah. I'd say instead of asking yourself, can I afford it? Ask yourself,
00:32:14
can you afford not to have it? >> Yeah. Oh, that's a really nice way to
00:32:18
think of it >> actually. Yeah, there's someone cross health insurance can use that. That can
00:32:21
be their new life. >> I hope they're taking notes. So, >> yeah. >> Hey, this has been great. Um,
00:32:29
>> yeah, it's been really nice connecting with you today and I I you know, I can
00:32:32
see there's been a couple of occasions where I've seen your eyes light up and
00:32:35
it's where you're talking about um >> the physical activity that you do. Yeah.
00:32:39
>> And it's also where you talk about work. >> Um, so I think you're going to be a
00:32:43
fantastic physio >> hopefully. Um, and I'm pleased that um, thanks to having Southern Cross Health
00:32:48
Insurance, you're back doing the things you love again as well. >> That's so cool.
00:32:52
>> Yeah. Thank you for having me on anyway to talk about it. >> Oh, no. I appreciate it. What are we
00:32:56
doing now? Should we go to the gym? >> Yeah. Oh, >> do some squats. >> Oh, if you want to, we can go do a leg
00:33:00
day. >> I'm going to make you go deep. Yeah, >> we're going to go parallel to the floor.
00:33:04
>> Oh, no. If As long as there's no pop again, I think I'm happy. >> I appreciate it, Ryan. You're a good
00:33:09
man. much.