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okay Runners only with dime Harley Runners only with dom Harvey and Rachel Hunter hello
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it's fabulous to have you here so we're you're sitting in my podcast Lounge we
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are I I just want to start by giving a reference point to like just what a big deal you are and just how how famous you
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are because I'm guessing there's probably two maybe two demographics of people listening to this there's people
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that are people that know you're a big deal but think oh that's Rachel she was
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a big deal in New Zealand and then she married Rod Stewart but then there's people older than that like me that
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remember like just how famous you were in the late 80s and 90s and to give you a reference so where we're sitting it is
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literally a stone's throw away from the celebrity walk at Victoria Park Market
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now this used to be a thriving sort of mall now it's just offices but there's a
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celebrity walk there which I think is one of the best kept secrets in Auckland no one knows about it and you're there
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with your hand how old were you when you did your hand print in the concrete like
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it's 18 19 17. it was probably pretty young it was probably like 20 like yeah
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1920 I guess yeah um is that better yeah that's better um yeah it was probably it was probably
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about 1920 at that stage but yeah at the hot honestly that whole just everything
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from right from the beginning when I started at 16 to you know that point I mean I
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never expected any of this and I was just so you know and I told you this before but I was I actually got found
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running because I was running and because I was a runner yeah like yeah you told me no no no no no no no no
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no no you don't have to justify your plays on the podcast yes you're an 800
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meter Runner when you were at school no well I did the Athletics like I was really into the Athletics yeah um at
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school at high school and I threw myself into that as well as I was a ballerina so I also they studied dance quite um
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for a long long time for like 11 years and uh and then at school I did uh did the Athletics will Athletics so I was
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800 I did the 100 but obviously with my height the 100 wasn't the best one um and then from that once I left school
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or to keep my running and my technique up I guess was I would run 10ks a day down to ballet so I would run from
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Glenfield to Milford and then dance for like four hours and then my mum would pick me up and during that time when I
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was running was when actually someone spotted me on the beach when I was doing my 10k run a day so I'd do
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10ks like every day and it was it was something that and you know and I'm sure
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that's what you've found there was a freedom in it there was this the mind
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was free by the time you start when things were like heavy at the beginning of like how the school was or what was
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going on at home or what you're personally going through as a teenager by the time I was down at the beach
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everything had changed yeah and I think that's the beauty of like exercise of
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finding something what your flow is whatever that is and that changes and the evolution of who we are is really
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important and um I think sports sports does that for us I mean it's our entry
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point isn't it for helping that physical side absolutely I mean the mental health
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benefits that I get from running are second to none what were you were you listening to music back then I'm
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guessing you would have happened like a Walkman or a discipline yeah this is this man wouldn't have gone down so well
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so well I think it was maybe like Walkman with a cassette on that's how crazy so what do you mean you
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discovered it discovered on the beach how does that happen so you're running I
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was I was and um basically this guy comes running up to many goes um do you want to model and I was like no I
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don't you know no I'm like that's creepy right and she's like who comes up and
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says that were like you know a 16 year old girl like that's creepy who was it
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can you remember who he was in hindsight he must have he was a legit obviously yeah he was and you know and he was he
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was the one who took my very first photos and stuff and and he I took the card took it home to my mum and within
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the next week I was in her Studio taking photos and the next week later I was in
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a modeling agency and then at all just so the running actually was the one something that so that's what you just
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don't know you your actions that take you out of of places sometimes the things that
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really make you well they all do for us right find our loves or find out what our path is right
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um yeah and then it kind of just all went from there so what what did you what did you have like from the lens now
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of um a woman in her early 50s you look the 16 year old Rachel what did she have
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what was that X Factor I have no idea I thought I was honestly growing up I had a bug teeth I had a a
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um I was a geek at school everybody teased me I used to have yogurt at lunch in the corner where I didn't like speak
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to anybody yes no I'm not Joe no no no no no no it was it was really like really super lanky and awkward and
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but at the same time I went and did the ballet because that's where I kind of
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got lost in in that so I don't know what I don't know what that was um but I certainly didn't believe it but
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I thought it was hilarious like okay we can do that must be like a natural and like a
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natural natural beauty I guess yeah I guess yeah but you so how how different would your life have looked had you not
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me that guy didn't you have like um you had to stop Dancing Yeah and you wanted to be a vet I wanted to be a vet
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yeah yeah so yeah it would have definitely gone into that I mean I tried secretary School even when I was doing
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modeling was that a thing I did it she went to the bridge school it was like you're sitting there on the typewriters
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it's a true thing and I was there and I think I got shoved out of there because
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I didn't turn up for for that so I got booted out of that but I would have absolutely kind of gone more the vet or
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or something yeah yeah and toxic plasmosis was what is that exactly it's from cat it funnily enough usually
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pregnant women if they're around letterboxes or something they get it or from raw meat so I actually don't know
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around 15 that's when I got it um and I was extremely tired I had nine months basically away from school and
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again that was a pivotal moment where it was like okay the dance has got to stop
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I can't dance anymore to get that muscle back um having trained for all those years
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and for a disease like that to kind of come in it really it took me down even just to go out for a drive it would
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um exhaust me and I'd have to come home and sleep for four hours so all those
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oh it's so hard to tell people because listen there was nothing that was that was harming me obviously yes
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toxoplasmosis was a disease there were certain things in the home that was like mum and dad splitting up there was all
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these different scenarios that were happening that pushed me to where I am today and
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but to say that is a very hard thing because you do have to trust the process of it but we do have to be active and
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proactive in our own Evolution and to make those choices and that's the hard
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part that we go but how do we do that yeah you know and and I think what we have to do is not what we have to do
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because I can't speak for other people but for making those choices those healthy choices for ourselves like the
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running eating different different choices of friends like that we're not trees we can change you know we can move
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we can we can we can we can shift um location um but it's funny because all those
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moments I will you know we go back to the oh how many times have you said that's what made me
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who I who I am now like that's yeah everything leads the shittiest things now I'm not talking
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I'm not talking about horrific you know scenarios I'm going to make that clear
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but like the normal day-to-day things that happen to us that you know that that are those pivotal moments in our
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life how old were you when you when your parents broke up and then you mentioned
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that just before and I I know you were so close with your mum but I was just thinking I know nothing about
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it yeah so there were scenarios that's like my heartbreaking by the way but then there was another sorry like there
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were different scenarios that kind of were that you know those were some kind of fun and interesting times to be a
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parent right like it was pretty everything was pretty loose right yeah I can I can relate I'm not talking about
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me as a parent I'm talking about like your parents yeah yeah yeah there was no
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seat belts like there was very nice very nice you'd go out and go and play all
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day and just come home when it gets dark yeah um my mum and dad broke up on and off
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again numerous times and they were I look back now and it was a toxic relationship and they they stayed
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together for the kids it would have been better if they broke up yeah there was definitely different times and there was
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definitely scenarios that happened do you care about that about the siren yeah no that's all right okay good
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um so like life let's hope that that person is not gonna be okay um probably Ram Raiders oh my God we're
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in Auckland oh yeah so your appearance like yeah they there were many times that they kind of like did this you know
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there was the same scenarios that happened and um he's so cute it's like no Kanye's
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just come back in he's like something else um yeah I mean listen by the time they I
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you know I was 15 I was like can you guys please just like break up because this is like just obviously not working
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and you know kids know that they're not silly are they yeah was it was it like a
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fighty household or just tension in the air or it just didn't work yeah you know
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just it just didn't work and Dad's amazing like he is the life and soul of
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a party he worked for Continental Airlines he worked in the airlines for years so he was he was very
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we traveled because he was working in New Zealand and NAC back then um but he was uh yeah he was the life
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and soul of the party extremely funny very good looking my parents were very very good looking
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um just stunning couple but yeah it just didn't didn't work out in the end you're
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still quite close now with Dad yeah he's done and um he was at down in Tauranga
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for a while while and then he's in whakatane and then I think they're moving back but yeah but he keeps it
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pretty low profile yeah never seen him in the in the public eye or anything no do you think um
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psycho analyzing here but with marrying rod and the big age Gap there people immediately when there's an age Gap they
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say daddy issues yeah I have no idea um because I I don't know like where uh
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where are we at now in relationships there's many people doing you know different different
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is it really guys I just want you to know that I'm going through an appointment my daughter's just
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interrupted me saying that I'm sweating on the top of my lip when I'm actually
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not sitting Renee come on in do you want to dab your mum um yeah I'm I'm sorry the debt like the
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whole like the daddy issues I like no rod and I were like um we were meant to be together like it
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was a really strong and I didn't feel I'm just not that type of person that's
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going to go and but maybe it was maybe it wasn't I don't know like I mean when
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we look at like if you want to go back and I mean just look at movies like people do there's been doing crazy stuff
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like you know you could psychoanalyze a lot of stuff um and then I went the other way so there
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wasn't actually if I look at my types there's not actually not actually a type
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yeah yeah yeah I feel like with you it's probably a personality type like Rod was
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older than you but he said a fun guy oh yeah yeah okay but you know we'll get to
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that we're jumping around about it yeah but I can I can sort of relax my uh girlfriend at the moment she's like
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there's like a 21 year old gap between us yeah how does that feel well I say to
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her how's the music station switching on there yeah like music wise or she doesn't know what a radio is but I I I I
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I we had a chat on the phone yesterday there are things that come up from time to time and I I was talking about some
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people and I said I like Beavis and Butthead and she was like what's Beavis and Butthead okay so these little like
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like I suppose pop culture references that come up but I obviously to her people are going to say you've got daddy
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issues and she's like well I've got a great relationship with my dad I love my
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dad so much so I think that's a cop out of it yeah I think it's something that
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people can just like start in the conversation and say and that's a great thing that people can talk about know
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everything but who gives a [ __ ] in the end like as long as you're happy you do
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you and everyone else can do them absolutely God I feel like yeah yeah listen we'll get we'll get to this in
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more depth later I feel like you copped uh copped a lot of [ __ ] at the time though
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well yeah like I did a little bit of research for this for this um for this chat we're having today and you were on
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Letterman and you're on the late night talk shows and it was the thing in all
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of them and the some of the line of questioning would be like entirely inappropriate under the 2023 lens and
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you were just always really good at laughing it off and yeah not making the host feel like a deck even though they
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were being decks yeah but anyway it yeah like it was yeah it's so funny like I mean I look at
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like you know sometimes people say oh you know you know some of the work that we have done over the years but it was
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relative to to that time that was decision that was made during that era you know and it's it's not stuff I would
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do now you know there's certain things I wouldn't do now you know if the choices
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as far as even I love that the dog's dry humping whatever that Ted is the cat
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does but we call it we call all the all the stuff to his bunny that would be where's bunny
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it's okay why couldn't you get him something else other than the cactus oh
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he's got so many toys so many toys yeah by the way he doesn't do this with all
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the guests well yeah yeah you must be like this lady is an animal lover she was going to be a vet I was scared what
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you were gonna say man um yeah no there was there was definitely some rough things but I think honestly
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it definitely comes down just get him dry humping it would be good right there we go go
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where's bunny oh this is shambolic sorry Rachel I'm normally way more professional than this
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no this is oh my God we're gonna like pretend where's ballet no he's like no no please no photos
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okay so um no but the the whole the getting Flack off all the media and stuff like
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I think you just it is what it is and you just you just you just go through it yeah are you geez so like one of the
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earliest clips of you I found is when um I think it was 1617 um you just signed like a 100 000
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contract and the reporter said something like you're going to be earning more
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than the Prime Minister yeah you you was so wise beyond your years back then like when you look back and
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see Clips like that I think I think you shared it on your Facebook page like about a year ago do you like do you
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still feel like that person or does that feel like a completely different person
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no I've really been driven by my I would say my heart completely and that's all
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along yeah I would say so absolutely like mostly like I mean obviously I've made some dumb you know Silly choices
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and work and stuff but I feel like what as far as just different TV shows I think I would have done or been put in
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the Firing Lane as as far as like doing stuff like that and coming back with you
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know more you know quicker answers or appropriate things but you you're young
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like you're not I thought you always handled yourself beautifully yeah well thank you but yeah it was um
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I don't know it yeah so so you you discovered on the beach and then um over what time spent so
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because when you were 17 you're on the cover of and I've Loved four magazines
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in Australia at once like Vogue like big legit magazines yeah yeah um so you get so you get discovered by
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this guy you have some photos taken by how so you're at school then you're not
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at school so basically I was doing my math exam and then they were like Rachel there's a phone call for you and then
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they were like okay you have a shoot tomorrow do you want to do it and I was like I put down the phone and never went
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back into the math exam and walked straight out of the front of the school well fine landline in the office
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just everyone for those who don't understand what I think it has a curly curly tail or a straight tail probably
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even though it was probably definitely done [ __ ] yeah wow yeah and that was it
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so I'm calling [ __ ] when you say you look funny and you had buck teeth and
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you must have been like like you know a standout at school it's in Glenford coming going Rachel a
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model not a chance yeah like I think you're just you're just down playing it
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no I'm not I'm absolutely not no like there was I was just really taught like
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tall lanky geeky curly curly you know and you know like just I didn't know who I was it was just
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me and it's always it's always been that way too it hasn't really changed from
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that like I I you know sometimes you you kind of become more aware and you're
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like okay you know yeah I I you know I need to lose this or do that or or do something different like you have more
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of an awareness but then no there was still that innocence and I think that's
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what it was you're innocent of who you are then did you did you stay innocent
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or did you grow up fairly [ __ ] quickly no no but I I definitely you know go no that's not right yes this is right
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or I'm not putting up with that I definitely had a great time I mean you know we were non-stop traveling I used
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to you know sometimes I think I mean with Sports Illustrated I was out there for three weeks three or four weeks
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which some people just were coming in and out but I mean honestly I was I literally had this incredible career
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delivered to me and like going this is and I I mean I had no idea really what when I looked look back now and go oh
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wow you were given that that and you did that like you were doing Revlon Covergirl all these magazines like and
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and campaigns and you're like I didn't really realize what I was doing it just
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yeah you're living but yes just be much time reflecting on it now and just how
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mind-boggling and amazing it is so grateful yeah so this was a time this was a time where like supermodels were a
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thing and there was like a few so there was like Naomi Campbell there was Cindy Crawford
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um Christie Brinkley um Elle Macpherson yeah oh yeah and you you were you were in that mix amongst
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them little rage from New Zealand like I can't I can't overstate just like what a
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what a big deal you were in New Zealand at the time yeah yeah it was it was interesting because when it first
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happened I don't know how that happened either like or the attention over it I
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don't know how that happened like it just all because I remember walking down
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Queen Street and I was like oh my god like people going hey Rich hey reach hey reach and I remember walking in the back
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of Queen Street down that road because I was just like I'd freaked out because I
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was like this is people know like it it scared me um and but at the same time once I adjusted
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because that's what you do you're just it became just my way of life yeah yeah
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well I suppose at the time like media wasn't fragmented like it is now so there was like two was there two or
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three TV channels yeah it was like two years tell everyone it was time to go to bed
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so it's like if you're on the news everyone everyone knew you were on the
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news there was no there's no social media no no it was TV and radio newspapers and that's it yeah so it's a
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win it's amazing how actually news actually got out yes in that fashion where now it's like
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you have to be feeding constantly with content to be at all in this game anymore yeah because
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I I don't think there's very many true household names anymore um maybe maybe like Jacinda I do it
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she's a household name but there's not many but you were you were a household
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name yeah I mean I mean I think also yeah during that time and then also when I did knew oh we're going to jump probably
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to that New Zealand's Got Talent and then tour of beauty um I love he's actually moved the bed in
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now too like we've now got the characters and the bed that has moved in Renee you're not doing very good job
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babysitting it's supposed to be a beard but he just like scrunches it up and
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helps them I mean he's worked out so he's gonna be like what have you done to
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the dog today he's spent um I oh yeah so when did that when did the Trump ahead come about there was an
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iconic music that happened that someone said oh there's this ad trumpet like
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that was also the beginning of it that was one of my very first jobs we're all
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going to go up north um in the car and then they needed the one shot we we shot the the the TV
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commercial they needed one more shot so they took me to Mount Eden and I licked the trumpet and then that was what ended
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up in that in that club because I've got something to show you the the there used
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to be a thing in New Zealand's woman's weekly like a celebrity look-alike page
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and I think I think you won like five dollars or a golden kiwi or a lotto ticket anyway my sister Bridget who's uh
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one year older than me um she won a like a as a Rachel Hunter look alike oh my God she did
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oh wow although to be fair to be fear the here is kind of similar but like she's got an ice cream as a prop she
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gave herself everything no that's pretty amazing is that don't you think that's
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been like related okay are we related absolutely not but there's been like a
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highlight of the Harvey family that's amazing oh it's not that you can see that though
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that is Kenya oh absolutely why do you not think so she's my sister absolutely not a model
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pretty amazing yeah so so it's pretty amazing well your eyesight's gone I reckon no it's not
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the hair is really close too yeah yeah so so um okay so so you're 17 um you're over six where are you in New
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York or Paris when you're earning 100 000 a year so basically went on to um I went on to New York they asked me
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to go over there four Deads because I was going backwards and forwards to Australia went on to New York City mum
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was with me I was like great I was going with Eileen Ford at the time um and then that was it Revlon the
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Covergirl did it started doing all the magazines Al magazine Hub is bizarre again it just like kind of got delivered
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and then it just it just kept going and then obviously it was it was a fun time to be in New York City
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um but was that why was it a fun time there was well I guess it was my age like I mean you you know there were the
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clubs there at the same time I was always on a plane there was a lot of downtime
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um but when you were it was you yeah it was different than it is going out now for kids right like everything's
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really super look I don't I was never really a crazy crazy going you know out
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person anyway I mean I was really only someone who drunk and that was it like I mean I was I was done ironically people
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like no you must have been I was like no I was never that person and I I had it I
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had an amazing amazing time but then you know you I had 20. well at the same time
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then I went out with a couple of people in the music industry when I was younger like kept kept Winger
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oh yeah yeah yeah from the band Winger yeah they had a song called miles away or something yeah yeah yeah right
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um and then was this pre-rod pre-rod yeah right um so I guess I did have a little bit of a type for it
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a bad boy thing maybe you know who else anyone else probably yeah um don't go on it well there's that
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stupid site that goes who have you dated because half those people I'm like I had
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nothing to do with them at all so oh really is that a thing that is a thing that seems highly offensive and
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inappropriate anyway we like the Taylor Swift of the 90s or something like what um so did anything bad happen in that
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time like any like creepy photographers comments about your diet comments about your weight I mean there would always be
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like you know I know not like fig and model we were we were very lucky at that time because at
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the same time there was there was not a weight issue there because it was more of the normal shape figures it wasn't
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like super super skinny but at the same time every now and then you'd be eating
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or having a couple of you know drinks more than you know what you showed and there'd be 10 pounds or 15 pounds so
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there was always that awareness there yeah but I mean again as as hard I I wouldn't put up with that I wouldn't put
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up with it yeah and that that I find that amazing so where did that sort of self-assurance or confidence come from
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because it definitely comes across on Old interviews you've done as well it's
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like you're not going to take [ __ ] from anyone but you'd but you there was
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a couple of times that absolutely like it hurts and like when someone says that like it's like any time that someone
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kind of nips you and says it happens when you're older as well when someone goes hey you're out of lying and you're
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like and it hurts you're actually like maybe I am maybe I do need to pull my
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head in maybe I do need to get myself together um so it still happens but I think as
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far as dealing with uh you know they look there was there's been some scenarios that happen but at
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the same time nothing that I couldn't handle myself and and and and and you know and put my foot down because I am
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that type of person I don't know where that that comes from but I mean I'll take and take and take and then I
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Roy yeah yeah good for you that's amazing how did the stuff not go to your head at the time if it was me I'd be an
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out of control egomaniac oh yeah I reckon I'd be a diabolical mess really yeah [ __ ] yeah three weeks in the
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Bahamas having my photo taken and private jets and all that I've I've been
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I'd be a nightmare to be around how did you keep grounded I I always considered it a New Zealand
00:27:20
thing because I was like you know there's you always realize and you know I I did not come from a wealthy
00:27:27
background whatsoever it came from a family that uh was you know back then fruit and vegetables
00:27:35
from the store was the cheapest food right normal organic food that we call organic now that everyone buys an
00:27:41
expensive restaurant expensive places was our normal food um I don't know I just
00:27:48
I just didn't um I don't know I always think of there's people that are in a far harder
00:27:56
scenario than what I am and I it always and you see that you can see that on the
00:28:01
street you can see it from when you get out of a car in so-called you're in a
00:28:05
limo and you and you look and you and you take in what's around you you see people there's suffering or there's this
00:28:12
so it you remain humble and you may remain aware and at the same time you you know you create that action that
00:28:20
yeah you you don't forget where you came from [ __ ] you're um I mean you you can ask your mum those
00:28:28
because she passed a few years ago but you could ask your dad but your your parents must be like so proud none of
00:28:32
not of your um achievements and accomplishments but just of um like your character
00:28:37
like did you ever have a chat to your mum about that or did she say that like no I mean I was a very withdrawn child
00:28:43
when I was growing up like I was very very quiet this is going to be funny but I used to speak to the animals the only
00:28:50
friends that I had was my animals I used to make like ant farms and insect farms
00:28:57
and you know yeah now I'm gonna start selling crazy but they were my friends
00:29:01
they were my friends for a long time because I I really was very sensitive to like
00:29:09
like school was hard school's hard like it gets nasty yeah yeah I already you got taste people used to say you had
00:29:16
to carry it up your ass because if you're a dance posture yeah like all of that and I I just found like a lot of
00:29:23
like nervous of like what people said it's so funny now I'm recalling on that it's
00:29:29
like nervous of what people said or what people thought or cared about that I actually cared about that so that is a
00:29:35
very big flaw in my personality and it's it's one of those things that I now go
00:29:40
no like you know it's one of my big things that you've got to go out especially after mum died I was like you
00:29:46
can't apologize for who you are but yeah I was I was a very inward quiet child
00:29:54
um and found friends very very overwhelming but did you have a good quote when you're at school look I don't
00:29:59
know what happened but once no it didn't I mean I did I had two or three really
00:30:03
good friends yeah and I will say that and people look people weren't horrible
00:30:07
it was just who I was you know what I mean it was just who I was any boyfriends at school like is there
00:30:15
is there is there a 53 year old Logan Glenfield going around that's saying you
00:30:18
went to the ball with Rachel Hunter I think I went out with someone and I can't remember that or who that was when
00:30:23
I was 10 and then I found out that they'd told one person and they dumped them and said no that's not working out
00:30:28
so can you just tell me like how are you meant to have a relationship yeah how are you meant to have a relationship
00:30:36
when you're scared of people knowing oh don't Dougie just brought up her
00:30:43
website called uh who's dated who yeah I was at the website you're talking about
00:30:46
yeah okay are you on that um no like in your own like thing like do you have a Dom page in there oh God I
00:30:55
doubt it hang on oh we're not going through the list okay I'm not going through the list
00:31:03
um so um how did how did you meet um Andy Hayden and when did he come into the past year I feel like he was he was he
00:31:11
was your manager for so many like decades and uh it was a successful partnership like often these things turn
00:31:17
nasty and you know someone's being ripped off but they never happened I feel like he was such a protector of you
00:31:22
it's so good for your career yeah he was he it was yeah um Andy I was 17 and with the agency scenario I
00:31:32
was kind of getting sick of it so I read the sports section because I was always
00:31:36
reading the sports section God Knows Why and then I saw this person in the back Andy Hayden representing some all blacks
00:31:46
and whatever he was doing at that time and I shut the newspaper and I said that man if he's managing an all black then
00:31:53
he's gonna I want him to manage me it's 17 okay so I called up and I said
00:31:59
um can I speak to Andy and um I said I want you to manage me and he goes what am I going to do with you like
00:32:08
he was like I remember him saying that and um he goes let me think about it and that's I was a little bit ego then I was
00:32:15
like what do you mean you to think about it like come on if you can manage nor black you can manage me and um he put
00:32:22
the phone down he goes give me the weekend to think about it anyway never heard back and I was like no no no this
00:32:27
is not happening wow and then I aggressively went after him to manage me and eventually goes okay let's give it a
00:32:34
try and I said something like don't be you know you need to take me on don't
00:32:39
you can't like how like you need to take me on and um yeah and that was it and I became so
00:32:47
close to you know trash um Laura and Chris I've known since they were babies
00:32:55
um and I mean Andy knew what to do he knew like he he how did he know just because I mean this is a time like um
00:33:04
you were you you were cutting your own path I mean these Talent managers everywhere now it's an agencies are a
00:33:10
diamond dozen but this was unchattered Waters then yeah so how do you know what to do was it just like an instinct thing
00:33:15
no I mean look there was yeah I think it is I think you either have that in you as far as knowing what to manage
00:33:21
um how to manage somebody um because you're dealing with the same very different types of people right but
00:33:27
at the same time you know the All Blacks have a certain thing that they're looking for that or those you know those
00:33:33
um athletes their personality in themselves so it's the same thing deals have been offered
00:33:38
um it was just different as far as like tv offers or you know the women's magazines you know all of those types of
00:33:45
things will come in so and it just it just worked and he he was not only someone who was a manager obviously he
00:33:52
was a great mentor he was a great um father in some ways too um obviously I have my dad but he was
00:34:00
yeah I don't want to call him my father father figure because I thought they
00:34:04
might be offensive to your dad but he definitely was wasn't it he was a very
00:34:07
big influence on all of our family my sister my mum like Dad like he really he took care he had that magnificence about
00:34:17
him you know and and also never forget like Trisha I mean she was she's just an
00:34:23
incredible woman too and of course now the kids you know Laura Laura and um Chris but and obviously Chris manages me
00:34:32
now but yeah I didn't know that yeah huh yeah yeah like it stayed in there because you know there's there's it goes
00:34:41
beyond you know just getting deals to me there's this deep set relationship and
00:34:46
you can't you don't buy that you know you can't pay a percentage for that like
00:34:51
because yeah there needs to be you need to have you know you need to nurture that and
00:34:58
and it's really important important to me so yeah we've I've been there ever
00:35:03
since I was 16 basically 17. but I hunted him down and I would not take no for an answer I was like nope you are
00:35:10
managing me well you are a hunter by name yeah that's that's amazing to think
00:35:15
that you had that sort of um sense of knowing what you wanted at that age oh my God Claire as a whistle yeah
00:35:22
yeah clear unbelievable unbelievable isn't it funny though though what happens like when you look at those
00:35:28
pivotal moments you'll you will be so clear right like you've you don't even
00:35:34
hesitate you just go no or you just go yes right yeah there is no hesitation why but you think at that age you'd be
00:35:42
like asking other people what they think like your parents or whoever yeah no and
00:35:47
what about your parents at this time so your mum sort of became like your chaperone for a while well she was yeah
00:35:52
she was there for about eight it like took me over there and then pretty much I left home by the time I was 16. so I
00:35:58
was living actually with my boyfriend at the time down on the beach at 16 17 so I
00:36:03
left home quite early so um I was out on my own I went from being this shy inward child that had
00:36:10
toxoplasmosis that was you know doing ballet was doing ballet competitions was running
00:36:16
um you know had very you know a few very important friends at school but you know
00:36:22
that school was not my thing so no no it's not a lot of people's but yeah and
00:36:28
then it was like boom Straight Out The Gate there was just no looking back after 16. I didn't know what it was it
00:36:34
was like an explosion like who was who was that that happened you know to who who the hell were you at
00:36:42
16 who just turned around and just knew what you were doing and it must do you spend much time reflecting now or not
00:36:49
really like it was a crazy few years yeah like I look it's insane yeah have you got like the the magazine covers
00:36:56
hung up in frames around your house no and a box somewhere yeah because I did have them downstairs in a pool table
00:37:02
room but I didn't want with my children growing up I didn't want them to see
00:37:07
that why because I don't think it's it didn't I want them to have their
00:37:12
opportunity to like what was hanging on the wall was us where that was yeah I've
00:37:18
done that and the kids knew and I did have them hanging out for a little bit but like I said I took those down pretty
00:37:24
pretty fast because I didn't want them to yeah I just didn't want them to have
00:37:29
to know me as that because that's that someone's Vision that someone's dress up
00:37:35
version of me yeah and um one cover that you made onto the cover of was um Playboy and
00:37:42
um like it's easy to look at Playboy now and go oh God that's like but this was a
00:37:46
big thing at the time my Playboy was a classy makers it's not like the porn that's online I don't know it was I mean
00:37:52
look you're on the cover event it said um Stacy's mom is naked I know I know
00:37:58
how do you feel about that now looking back I I wouldn't change it because again I think that the the photographer
00:38:04
he was really beautiful how he shot it um I I wouldn't apologize about that whatsoever because like you said there
00:38:12
was person after person after person who was on the covers and that was a legit thing for now a celebrity a celebrity's
00:38:20
manager would say don't don't do this but back then yeah Kim Kardashians and
00:38:24
yeah McPherson and Marilyn Monroe back in the day and the thing is is people have to see that was relative to that
00:38:30
time now would we do it relative so there is no shame on me to do that yeah I read an interview with
00:38:39
your um daughter saying she'd never do it yeah but yeah did you get paid he's like 2
00:38:45
million or something no no no no no no no it wasn't it wasn't uh is it one of
00:38:50
those things you do for the money or for the opportunity because Playboy involved
00:38:55
yeah it was it it it there was a part where there was a um it was a thing to do at that time
00:39:02
when you go back and look at that era of how many girls did it and who did it it
00:39:06
was pretty it was an incredible lineup it was like a who's who yeah celebrities
00:39:11
yeah um so let's talk about Rod when first of all um in preparation for this interview
00:39:17
I downloaded his um book on Audible and I was I've been listening to some of
00:39:21
that have you have you ever read that book but I'm guessing people have told
00:39:25
you about what's in it and stuff no like well no no a little why too hard or
00:39:32
no because I just just story really well yeah but there's as you know within this
00:39:39
situation in life there's there's you know one perspective another perspective
00:39:42
and then the truth's usually somewhere in the middle yeah but um well did you get to pre-read or suggest
00:39:48
any edit sorry no he don't even offer that no I I mean I remember sitting down
00:39:52
with the like not not did I sit down with no I no there was a complete trust there
00:40:00
it wasn't anything wow so what about the post story oh my God how hysterical is that
00:40:08
we were we were on a boat and basically it was the first time that we're dated
00:40:13
and I know you've been seeing it accordingly consummated you've been seeing each
00:40:18
other a few weeks and basically the next morning I was like I actually don't know
00:40:23
which part he read but I was like what the [ __ ] was on the bed and basically there was this brown stain and I was
00:40:29
like I don't know whether he thought of me both of us thought the same thing and
00:40:34
then it was like but it didn't smell it smelled delicious it smelled so good you could eat it
00:40:42
and it was chocolate guys that's a great story this is so good that's the best story ever and um I I
00:40:51
mean you know he doesn't say so many laughs honestly we have so many laughs we laughed our way through that
00:40:57
relationship and you know people go with them why did you leave it was like because I didn't know who I was yeah I I
00:41:02
was so young it was it was it had a lot to do with where where who was Rachel what did Rachel like you know all of
00:41:11
that and it wasn't because he's there was no Suffocation there it was just my
00:41:15
own you know my own and it was probably way before even him like I mean I left home at 16. yeah it's um it's really sad
00:41:24
like I was listening to it on a run and I had to stop because I thought I was going to start crying because it's like
00:41:29
um it like it doesn't reflect badly on on you but you you broke his heart so
00:41:33
badly but I think I think most adults have probably been in a situation where where you've had your heart broken and
00:41:39
also you've been the person that said to break another person's heart and both
00:41:42
perspectives are horrible and you can sort of you know see it from both points of view and it's um it's not an easy
00:41:48
read or listen it's tough you're like you feel bad for you and you feel bad
00:41:52
for him yeah it's it's it's one of those those things that you sit there and you go is this about
00:42:00
to come out of my mouth you know when you're about to be break up with someone
00:42:06
that you actually really love yeah so he according to me is reading like an architecture magazine or something
00:42:10
because he's looking at some home renovations and he's asking you about Cabinetry benches or whatever yeah and
00:42:16
you say that under your breath something like I don't think I'll be there no yeah
00:42:19
so how long before that had you sort of been in the departure Lounge like a few months or uh no like it was I
00:42:28
I don't I don't like why did you why did you vocalize it at that point because
00:42:34
you can't keep something like that um you know you you just can't you can't I
00:42:39
can't like I said to you I've really gone from my heart and so from that
00:42:43
point you go oh is it the way I'm feeling or isn't it you know is it or isn't it
00:42:48
um and then when you do you just go I need to bring this up now to have this conversation you know and how do you
00:42:54
start a conversation like that I can't imagine what you were feeling at that
00:42:57
point because you know as soon as those words are out of your mouth nothing's
00:43:01
going to be the same ever again yeah and as you can see right now I'm breaking
00:43:05
into a menopause sweat because I'm just like literally thinking of the whole
00:43:09
thing which shows you that menopause because um it was hard because this is someone you love this is
00:43:21
someone's kids you've you've shared and still to this day with the thought of
00:43:28
how I said that and how I still look back and go how the how do I rack up the courage to break up with somebody I love
00:43:39
because I didn't know who I was like where is that confusion store what is that you know and sometimes you've just
00:43:46
got to say things you have to be in that truth of that moment and go I don't know where I am
00:43:53
and I have to take that risk and that's what life is you know like you have to
00:43:58
take that risk of like I can't miss this person around either you know I can't pretend I'm in love
00:44:06
like I can't pretend I'm not going to go through my life pretending I'm in love
00:44:10
with somebody or not love with somebody or I've got this on my mind because it
00:44:14
wasn't a question of like whether I love him of course I loved him and still do
00:44:18
love him dearly not that's not for people to take out of context either and but at the same time like I had to come
00:44:25
with the truth of like I don't know where this is at and I need the space to
00:44:29
figure this out that's what it was and then obviously ended up in a in in separating in divorce if you took a
00:44:37
while to divorce I didn't yeah we did yeah yeah yeah and also you know like seeing um
00:44:46
Renee um through that time I mean held with that so they're like yeah still very very young yeah so the whole
00:44:57
thing was just really it was interesting but we were we always stayed connected and and spoke and as
00:45:05
hard of of a time it was but at the same time like I look at Renee and Liam and at that time I know when I when I broke
00:45:17
up my whole life would be obviously I would have to remain working because that's what I did to support myself but
00:45:25
also my life would remain around the fact that I'm going to make sure that the kids
00:45:31
it's about their life what they want to do like be into you know Renee was into
00:45:36
dance Liam into hockey Renee into soccer and it wasn't about at that time there
00:45:41
was obviously touring of getting into they were getting into that age where they needed to be the be in school or
00:45:47
they were on getting tutored and being on planes flying around so there was that pit so there were lots of things
00:45:53
and it worked out for the best you know and you know writers in an incredible human being he was definitely a huge
00:46:03
love of my life and I I love him and stand by him and everything he does he's
00:46:08
a beautiful wife and they have amazing children all those children are so deeply connected to all of us there's
00:46:16
there's a lot of love there so how lucky am I you know I mean as much as I haven't actually been in a relationship
00:46:24
for a very very long time but is it by choice or I don't know it just kind of
00:46:28
happens that way yeah I remember I was on the psychic who told me I wouldn't be
00:46:32
in a relationship for five years is up now but you know was that Tyler Henry you went on that oh really it's
00:46:38
like exactly five years done now come on so do you do you think you've been Lucky
00:46:45
in Love or unlucky in love oh lucky because I always you know I my heart's always open to love like always at the
00:46:54
same time um I mean especially since when my mum died that's funny because that's when it kind
00:47:02
of closed off I would say as far as you know how important she was in my life and
00:47:11
actually when I really reflect on it how much I left home at 16 and then I was gone a
00:47:17
lot of the time I would see her but really how much she was a huge such a big effect on my life and I'm a huge
00:47:24
part of my involved and hugely involved in my life but how much I didn't spend
00:47:28
with her yeah has been really something that's played on my mind for the last
00:47:32
couple of months um yeah you're you're late teens and and 20s where I'm unbelie like everything
00:47:38
was accelerated so you're married at 21 a mum at 23 22. and then set in return that's when I
00:47:47
broke up funnily enough everyone who knows that sat in return 27-28 When the [ __ ] hits a fan what were you doing
00:47:53
27-28 oh um I wasn't me I was just working radio in Palmerston North but I was a mess I
00:47:59
was a complete mess yeah it's something comes along on that they call it satin
00:48:03
return it like literally shoves your whole you go who am I what am I doing where am I going with my life and that's
00:48:10
exactly what happened to me when I broke up with Ruth Rod at that time yeah but mommy yeah she was
00:48:17
yeah I want to get into your relationship with your mum but um first of all on Rod so one of one of my
00:48:23
favorite well why are you laughing nice he is one of the most funniest human beings
00:48:35
you must have interviewed it no I've never interviewed him but I um uh whenever I see an interview with him
00:48:40
he's he's charismatic and he's funny and he's Charming like I can see why you
00:48:44
fell in love I feel like he's one of those people where you don't see you
00:48:48
when you were 21 you don't see an old man looking in front of you you just see
00:48:51
this funny cheeky charismatic yeah man I think that's you've hit the nail on the head because that's how I
00:49:00
see people I don't see a lot of what's I mean of course you have the chemistry of
00:49:05
how someone looks and all the rest of it but ultimately like it is that I mean he's so charismatic
00:49:13
Ally was he really into the is he into the model trains you didn't find that a
00:49:17
little weird no like how badly is he into the model trains is it Renee dead in the trains
00:49:29
like is it true when he goes on tour like he has like a second hotel room where no he loves his trains he loves
00:49:35
his dreams doesn't he he loves his dreams he loves it I just think it's great he's
00:49:42
very meticulous he's very very meticulous with them yeah who how was your what did you think of
00:49:51
your child died okay if you don't want to be on camera that's that's fun I read some interviews um
00:50:01
with about Renee and she was like quite wise and you talk about how when you're
00:50:06
when you're a kid at school and people ask what your dad does you just say he's
00:50:09
an entertainment or something and not elaborate any further than that listen to you guys like listen to what
00:50:19
their Viewpoint of it is because I haven't really it's a it's a pretty
00:50:23
pretty crazy ringing that you've had I've never met your brother but I've met
00:50:27
you now and you both seem you're more you seem very normal like very normal and grounded and I suppose that's got
00:50:32
that's a lot to do with your Rachel but it's got to be a reflection on Rod as
00:50:35
well I guess yeah like they honestly he's just such a family person isn't he he's just he's
00:50:41
got a big heart and just he's he's really I know some people go probably
00:50:46
like wait did you break up with them if you have so much love for him but again I think it was you know Rod knows who he
00:50:52
is you'll see that he knows who he is he knows what he loves he knows and I and I
00:50:57
think yeah I think and Celtic um the dog mean while the dog still humping um I don't know what it was but it just
00:51:04
happened yeah um it's one of my sorry no thank you maybe interview yeah um what were you one of
00:51:14
my favorite rod songs it's not not actually um has it's a cover from a guy
00:51:18
called Robbie Robertson called Broken Arrow and it's I don't even know what
00:51:21
the song's about but it's a bloody beautiful song yeah and you're in the
00:51:24
music video dancing around um and there was another song about the same time you you were when you were
00:51:28
with him he sort of had a Resurgence in his career okay put out an album called Vagabond heart no he's one of the
00:51:33
biggest artists in the world um so when how how long was it afterwards that you'd hear a song like
00:51:38
Broken Arrow or Have I Told You Lately That I Love You that I think that you could listen to it
00:51:43
without like crying or feeling sad or guilt or shame or whatever the emotions I think that Have I Told You Lately That
00:51:49
I Love You was a really hard one because obviously that was done on I think MTV at the time for those who don't know
00:51:55
what MTV was um Google it um um but I yeah it was it was emptively unplugged and I think you were side of
00:52:07
stage holding Renee as a baby at the time yeah it was and and she was she was in the van and I brought her out to
00:52:13
listen to the song and yeah and and that he dedicated that song at that time and
00:52:19
that was yeah that would that was hard so like yeah so I mean he's one of those
00:52:27
artists that's like it's you could be a I don't know Bloomingdale's on the Grove
00:52:30
or whatever and that song would come on or I know I've been in this I've been in
00:52:33
a shop where that comes on or when I swear to you sometimes that happens or it's just like timing that you know and
00:52:46
I you know whenever I go I'm like going did that person just put that on or did
00:52:50
that person's just where do you see what my reaction is going to be and I just
00:52:53
remain Stone Cold it could have it could have been Stacy's mom I guess that would have been
00:52:57
marginally worse like that I feel sorry for the kids but they had to go through the Stacy's bumper all right what do you
00:53:02
mean you feel sorry for them so that was the song I thought I'll just do a little
00:53:05
song little little bit music video and nobody will know and it became like a massive video yeah it is amazing so yeah
00:53:12
the band's called Fountains of Wayne the song's called Stacy's mom and it's a
00:53:16
it's a homage to this fantastic movie from the 80s I think called Fast Times
00:53:20
at Ridgemont High yeah so you just um duplicating a scene from that in a red bikini well how old were the kids at the
00:53:26
time like teens or no no no I think they were more like 10 like 10 11 that which is
00:53:32
even 10 or 12 which is even worse to be honest why why is it worse well no because I didn't think that that anybody
00:53:38
would see it you know you can see the job thinking of this wasn't gonna be on
00:53:43
top of the kitchen table like in a corset like taking off my and you know it was down to the corset and I was like
00:53:48
oh no one's going to see this and then of course a lot of people saw it and um
00:53:53
you know I guess it's just not something you want you know your kids I don't know it's a moment in your time
00:54:01
and your life and your career and surely like I would have thought you look back
00:54:04
now from the perspective of um you know a glowing woman in the early 50s and think [ __ ] you
00:54:09
[ __ ] you I do now no problem and thank God the kids are broken on the lake yeah
00:54:14
they have a good laugh over it but I'm sure at the time yeah all right so so
00:54:18
those those broad songs I have I told you lately so so when you hear that now like if that song comes on now like how
00:54:24
do you how do you feel like um it had like it hits inside like I mean I definitely have that
00:54:31
um that that um you know it's like that oh I feel like that off you know that that's that feeling
00:54:41
that's just you know that there's that Association there um but there always will be because
00:54:47
that's what happens I think like you know like the lobster you know you're in
00:54:51
this you're in a same place like we don't just stop loving you know just
00:54:56
because we can't be together it just doesn't work like that for me it doesn't
00:55:01
sorry for some of you it might obviously in the different scenarios obviously there's some people that just cut off
00:55:06
and it can't work absolutely but for oh we're just not getting on and there's
00:55:12
there is differences that you cannot be together but you still love each other you know that that's it is there's
00:55:19
possibility and I think that you're an example of it and you know two people
00:55:23
can be adults and and move forward and meet new people and grow and and it's
00:55:29
the same thing like I mean people go oh like you go on about Rod but at the same
00:55:32
time I mean you're asking me the questions but yes yes I fully get it I I try and be friends
00:55:42
with all of my exes because I the way I said if I love someone I'll love them
00:55:45
forever yeah they'll always hold a special place in my house yeah unless someone does something really that
00:55:51
that's obviously dangerous or traumatic like that that you know if it's an
00:55:55
amicable split up or even sometimes when it's not you realize what your part was
00:56:00
or their part and it was and they come back you you can't help but not love them every single person I've been out
00:56:06
with I would say hello to and respond to absolutely yeah have you been in love since then do you think
00:56:14
yeah for sure if you're going to ask me with who um I don't know um I think there was a couple of
00:56:24
engagements no there's one engagement that didn't happen oh I was at the ice hockey guy
00:56:31
right was he about um look it just didn't work out and the best thing and again I literally called him up think
00:56:40
you know and thanked him thank God I didn't go down that road because it wouldn't have been raised you know but
00:56:44
did I love him absolutely you know were there other people that I loved without a doubt did you this is nothing to that
00:56:53
celebrity website but I if it's then it's not a big relationship then just no
00:56:57
comment it but did you and Robbie Williams were you see each other for a while I can't get in okay
00:57:02
because I read some story online about um some guy from a band I think it was Stereophonics he was at a bar with
00:57:07
Robbie Williams and then there was a thing with him and Rod and oh really yeah apparently really yeah him and Rod
00:57:12
had a chat and then Robbie was like oh come on let's get out of here so I wonder if Rob was like you treated her
00:57:17
right or no I don't think no okay no we're not getting into that no okay
00:57:22
that's fine um so should we get into your mum can we talk about your mum a little bit Yeah
00:57:29
you um um so your mum passed away in 2018 uh 2017 yeah yeah yeah and you shared um
00:57:38
God you shared some some beautiful and very personal posts on Instagram at the time
00:57:43
um yes you and you and your son and um I'm one of the posts you were you're
00:57:48
both there on sort of beard watch yeah so you do like chefs and then go home for a shower and then come back
00:57:54
um yeah what are your Recollections of that time um it was it was first couldn't believe that
00:58:01
obviously she had cancer and then during that time I was just finishing up to shooting tour Beauty and
00:58:09
um then when it was oh it's so strange I was actually in Fiji and I was like this
00:58:17
part of me was like I need to go home and I came back and surprised her and this is further down my feet and and
00:58:24
Facebook back in 2000 I think 16 and I walked into the house and mum couldn't believe I was there
00:58:33
and she started crying and I went over and hugged her and I was like oh my God like
00:58:39
you're I can't believe you're you know so surprised and she just turned around to
00:58:44
me and she goes I think I have cancer and so you came home from Fiji on a hunch just not even on a hunch just
00:58:50
coming to surprise you because it's so close but there was this feeling that I
00:58:53
had in Fiji that I was like I have to go home because I just yeah I'm so close
00:58:57
here and I surprised her because I you know we don't usually surprise her like
00:59:02
that and I walked in and she was like oh my God Rachel and I actually cut the video off in Facebook because that's
00:59:08
when she said I think I have cancer and I was like what are you talking about we
00:59:11
don't have cancer in our family you know and that's the ignorance right you don't
00:59:15
think you have cancer in your family um and then basically went to the doctors the next day and I could tell by
00:59:22
the doctor's face at that point it was not good um and then it wasn't until the next you
00:59:29
know the next and I I just going through that Journey with her and at the time and I I think maybe some people can
00:59:37
relate to this I don't know whether you can or you know you've been through
00:59:42
scenarios like this or not but yeah with friend not not no one as close as a mum
00:59:46
but yeah and you go who people get into that state who's going to look after that
00:59:52
because you know it's a journey yeah going through obviously cancer and um and I always said you'll never so many
01:00:02
people who have that disease are in such truth you you can't deny their truth they say
01:00:09
what they feel right there's there's so much truth there yeah and I suppose
01:00:13
that's the um if there is one like blessing or silver lining with a um like a disease like cancer is that you do get
01:00:20
the chance to like leave leave nothing inside no so things that you want to say that and you don't [ __ ] around like you
01:00:27
don't you don't like my relationship at that time like I remember she was in radiation and I was
01:00:33
walking up ahead of her and I was crying because I was just like I can't like for
01:00:38
me to keep seeing like for her to keep going through this like I was like and it was fresh right so your endurance is
01:00:44
building at that time when you're journeying let alone the person who's suffering and
01:00:49
and I go turn around here and I go this really sucks and she goes thank God you said that it does suck you know it
01:00:56
really sucks and I mean sucks isn't even relevant to how big of of a situation
01:01:02
that was and we we literally hugged each other and just started crying and there
01:01:09
was a relief there that it was like okay let yeah like finally oh it's not like
01:01:14
oh we're gonna got this we're gonna get through this we're gonna do this yeah
01:01:18
those moments come but they're not relative because at that time we both needed to just fall into each other's
01:01:24
arms and surrender to the fact that this journey is really hard and she had incredible friends around her that would
01:01:30
have been amazing and and during that time my head was down and just concentrated basically on her and then I
01:01:38
kind of left LA and basically came down and and looked after her until she until she
01:01:46
died um was that a special time it was it was it was really hard because Liam was going through playoffs at the time
01:01:54
and I went up to um London to be with Liam for that time because the doctors were like it's okay
01:02:01
then came back down and then when I walked through the door and Renee had come back down while I was up there to
01:02:08
be with mum too so that it was like this thing and Renee she was God bless her it
01:02:13
was really it by the stage it had taken over quite a bit but you know before I went up to London I I
01:02:20
was in mum's rest home and because she needed get palliative care obviously and I said mama said if
01:02:28
there's one thing you regret in your life what do you regret and she goes I regret not for the being who I am and
01:02:36
that today still hits because people need to go and be who they are and not apologize for it and I think the truth
01:02:45
and authenticity um and not be shamed of who you are and and not hide any of that as
01:02:54
is so key in in what your journey is in Life or be something else you know because we still care about what people
01:03:01
think and that for me was like a message that that's why I basically picked up
01:03:11
sticks after she passed away and went home back to LA and kind of re-looked at my life and I was like I've been around
01:03:17
the spiritual world my whole life with my mother like I'm going to India and
01:03:21
I'm going to you know get through this this pain of of grief which you never
01:03:26
you know it's always there but she said such a key thing for so every human being on this planet you
01:03:35
know that we hear over and over again is be who you are and and honestly do that
01:03:40
and be that and that changes and and be in that state of evolution of who you are and if you want to be a vet when
01:03:47
you're young and you end up teaching what I mean I can only speak for myself
01:03:50
a yoga when you're older [ __ ] great do that absolutely and you know what those Worlds Collide there is no oh I'm
01:03:59
spiritual Namaste and all the rest of it and then I'm not going off and having
01:04:03
fun and in love with my friends there's an integration process there and that's
01:04:08
who I want to be and represent for people like of who I am you know I want to be
01:04:14
there's those still intense moments which is exactly what my mum was incredibly talented incredibly spiritual
01:04:22
very very psychic she made tarot cards she made it I mean yeah yeah so what did she um so what did she regret exactly
01:04:30
because I felt like she was she was she was it was such a like now everyone talks about that spiritual world as such
01:04:37
like but it was always kind of like oh don't talk about it I'm talking mainstream like you know yeah like it's
01:04:44
a bit weird and now it's not like everybody's kind of like out of the you know someone will
01:04:50
have a crystal or oh you know I thought I saw that or I felt that when I was in a room so none of that's weird and I
01:04:56
think that she she regretted like there were parts of it that she she regretted not fully
01:05:04
stepping into yeah right and it was just such a powerful moment because he goes I wanted to be the one who was
01:05:11
in the kimono with the you know with the long you know thing with the with the tarot cards and not be worried about
01:05:18
that I think there was also it also comes down to confusion in your own self of like you know oh I want to
01:05:27
be the one in kimono with the tarot cards but then I also need to go and do a job and I need to do that you know
01:05:32
what I mean it's like oh who am I not lucrative enough to be a nine to five I
01:05:36
know yeah yeah yeah so I think that you know that please that plays with all of us because we are human beings in this
01:05:45
Equitable world like having real life experiences yet we're still very connected to what is the spirituality so
01:05:52
I think to those to integrate and not to be so different or weird needed to happen and I think with with some very
01:06:00
amazing people Emma Milton actually being one of them who came along at that time when I was going through that is I
01:06:07
think a great person who kind of pushed that forward in in New Zealand and around the world actually but yeah do
01:06:14
you know what I mean but I still think no matter what like there is something about
01:06:22
like we're cautiously kind of did you ever find it on Instagram you're like oh what
01:06:28
should I put out there because what are people gonna think all the [ __ ] time and it's terrible
01:06:33
[ __ ] problems terrible this is the problem yeah yeah and I I I like to think I'm
01:06:41
feeling comfortable in my own skin but even is that self-editing aspect yeah um and I'm and I still even after my mum
01:06:48
told me that you're like sitting there going oh should I push the button oh don't worry it's gone now but it
01:06:52
actually was quite funny and quite relevant right but you're too scared because people what are people going to
01:06:57
say yeah windy windy and miss you the most um I actually was in India like a couple
01:07:05
of weeks ago and for some reason there's just intense moments that of that sometimes happen but I I miss her love
01:07:12
her it's something that we all aren't gonna we don't avoid this scenario
01:07:17
um it's how you know she has inspired me to live my life courageously again um and and to continue doing that and
01:07:28
and to just keep evolving and that that spiritual size and that naughty side because she was she was kind of naughty
01:07:34
she when she was 16 she used to have a mini skirt right up to here with her beautiful big hair and her false
01:07:41
eyelashes on and she was stunning and she was so she still had that so yeah I think that's the message from her as as
01:07:48
is that integration of of being for us being human beings and also to have that wacky cuckoo side
01:07:57
isn't it those are the ones that we love being around absolutely yeah because
01:08:03
they're the most authentic I think yeah um yeah then they Yeah the more it's
01:08:08
funny the more someone doesn't seem to give a [ __ ] the more you enjoy being
01:08:12
around them yeah because they are being more authentic yeah yeah there's this
01:08:16
little bit I think in most of us that holds you back from doing that well I would say here too is that we're very
01:08:21
concerned because you know people raise their phones and they take a snap at or they overhear a conversation and the
01:08:26
next thing this is a problem yet no one's in on the whole conversation or the whole snippet so therefore that we
01:08:33
get thrown under the rails and and like everyone just needs to like for me I'm
01:08:39
just like I I won't live like that and half truths like well I suppose from your possession especially like you've
01:08:45
probably been subjected to some gossip and some stuff over the years that you know as utter [ __ ] yeah and
01:08:51
completely unfair and unfounded so I suppose you've got that perspective yeah
01:08:55
but a lot of people with very boring lives I suppose they get excitement out of it even if it's not like celebrity
01:08:59
gossip it's just their friends supposedly kissing someone at work or whatever yeah yeah but it's still I
01:09:06
agree with you I just don't buy into that at all no no I mean I miss her and I
01:09:12
don't know you know but at the same time I I for something so hard to happen she's
01:09:20
given me the biggest boot up my ass that I could ask for and um yeah in terms of like the journey you're on
01:09:29
now yeah yeah just yeah with those words that she said we're really really relevant yeah yeah
01:09:43
what have you like so you're you're alive and well have you got any regrets
01:09:51
um not right now no no I mean real estate in New Zealand is what what you don't have a house by the
01:10:00
way it was just really spiritual deep moment and now I talk about my run regreters is not buying a house in New
01:10:05
Zealand other than that no no prices I'm like you're joking me that's such a
01:10:11
manual that's a great answer yeah it's a very light light relief um did you say
01:10:15
you were spiritual your mum was quite spiritual blood to you like do you feel her around
01:10:21
um no because the one thing a very another very good friend of mine who was around at the time I had all these
01:10:26
amazing women like Michelle Buchanan who she's a numerologist um Emma Milton who's very well known for
01:10:33
her books and stuff as well as uh Kim who was from Wiccan and all these women came out of nowhere and they were just
01:10:39
around me and I remember ringing up Michelle and I was like Michelle if she's so spiritual why can't she just
01:10:45
come and sit on the end of my bed like where is she why is the tarot card not flipping out of the deck or wires
01:10:50
because she made tarot cards as well which are these little cards which have all these like different meanings for
01:10:55
those would Google it at home as well just tell everyone to Google it you don't understand what I'm saying Google
01:11:00
it right you're giving the audience a lot of homework to do there's a list of
01:11:03
things to Google when you're watching this interview bring a notebook because
01:11:07
you're gonna have to Google um but no and I was like why isn't she sitting on the end of my bed why didn't
01:11:13
I feel well I'm sleeping an imprint or you know and and you know that's just ego just
01:11:20
wanting you to show up yeah one last visit yeah but the other like I was in I was actually in Delhi and I had this
01:11:27
overwhelming feeling of just like it just of just memories of her and um and I got
01:11:34
and I just every time I go where did she go like what how did that happen because
01:11:40
it happened so fast like within 18 months she was gone I was like well which is actually quite slow in some
01:11:45
people's yeah but um yeah I I don't I I kind of accept that like I mean this
01:11:55
is what we we all that's our way how we go out obviously suffering and seeing
01:12:02
someone suffer in that way and many people that suffer in that way is is a very um hard on that that person
01:12:12
um and you know that that was one thing that I really um like I think they're called uh when
01:12:21
people pass Jewelers I think there's um there's people that help through that
01:12:25
stage but it was yeah it was uh I'm just sure I'm sure she's around but
01:12:31
I for a spiritually connected as I am it's funny because it really is kind of a
01:12:37
buffing situation where I go I I actually don't know I haven't had that experience I haven't had that image of
01:12:44
her and it's actually okay you know it's actually okay yeah okay where are they I
01:12:49
don't know we none of us know some friends at my Murray underneath they lost their daughter Jasmine to cancer in
01:12:54
her early 20s and um she was such a live wire and such a such a such a presence and such a spirit they went to a
01:13:01
hypnotist show and they're like if anyone's going to present themselves tonight it's going to be Jazz and she
01:13:06
didn't and they're like nah we don't believe yeah so what do you what do you
01:13:10
think now what do you think happens when you die is there like an afterlife or what
01:13:14
what are your thoughts on that I don't know like I I there's such a bigger picture to the
01:13:23
whole thing yeah and it's so complex and you know we're talking about quantum
01:13:27
physics to all sorts of things like you know from science and I think science is
01:13:32
really starting to catch up with that spirituality that we are seeing even with you know different breathing
01:13:38
techniques or something relative to the spiritual so-called world we are seeing science kind of backer yeah back some of
01:13:46
it so you know and I think the dimensions people talk about two-dimension five dimension like it
01:13:54
just keeps going but I think if we are able to think it understand it see it whatever it is
01:14:01
there's there's Limitless possibilities and I don't know what that looks like
01:14:06
but you can't deny energy and energy is something that immediately when we feel connected to someone that's
01:14:14
energetic yeah so to me that is the proof is energetic response it's not actually our skin well it is because our
01:14:23
flesh is alive but there's an energetic response that happens and the same thing
01:14:29
inside like there's this energetic shift that we can change any possibilities
01:14:34
within our own self with changing our perception or our Consciousness so I think energy wise without a doubt
01:14:42
energetically there has to be some kind of energetic afterlife whatever that is um it's just bizarre that we come in
01:14:50
these vehicles Laura I think Laura calls them eth suits which are right that's Laura that's Andy
01:14:58
Aiden's right yeah in these Earth suits and yeah we get to perform for a little
01:15:02
bit and then off we go again yeah um one thing I'd like to touch upon with um every guest on the podcast is there
01:15:09
like mental health how's how's your mental health it's been good over the
01:15:13
years I know you're incredibly spiritual so you obviously um I I was when I was
01:15:19
growing up when I was uh young I actually ended up in therapy quite a bit and what age are we talking
01:15:27
oh yeah like like pre-model oh yeah way before young like in the tens 11s oh so this is my therapy is reasonably
01:15:35
reasonably normal now not L.A normal but it's getting there yeah but this was not
01:15:40
a thing back then I guess in the 80s I was a very inward child and I took things really personally
01:15:48
um that's why I said I would always talk to the animals and stuff because I thought that they understood me and
01:15:53
that's why I think I had a very close relationship with my with my mum but um I just thought everything was
01:15:59
suffering to me it seemed yeah how do you mean can you elaborate on that I don't know like I could feel things
01:16:06
right and I felt like that person sad or that animal sad and like there was deep
01:16:11
sadness and suffering and that it was not relative to what my family life was just so everybody knows there was no
01:16:18
suffering my you know we had you know change to different houses and all that but my mum was like our anchor like it
01:16:25
was but there was so was it wasn't true empathy or was it like an imagination
01:16:29
thing well you know empathic like I remember when I was um just before I had my back surgery I was
01:16:36
going through a bunch of stuff as well and because I've been in and out of therapy with different therapists
01:16:41
throughout my life yeah yeah and yeah and it wasn't until actually I stopped like 15 years ago but I to me
01:16:51
therapy whatever you need to do run whatever you need to think it's important to find the way that that what
01:16:58
helps you um but yeah I was 15 16 I think when I went to therapy um yeah and it wasn't
01:17:10
I don't know like some sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't you know it
01:17:14
was to me it was just part of the process of life do you know what I mean like yeah but it wasn't yeah but it wasn't
01:17:23
very not like I guess normal like it's not the sort of thing you'd tell anyone
01:17:27
about no no no no no but mum could tell like she was she was very much you know sensitive to that kind of stuff and then
01:17:35
you know once when I got older there was in in and out of you know going to therapists and some therapists were
01:17:42
great somewhere [ __ ] terrible um and but eventually I have to say like um for me
01:17:55
yeah it like it's a it's a real can of worms I guess because I was very very young when I
01:18:06
yeah I had a really I don't know I was very like the whole childhood thing was
01:18:12
a very inward child my mum obviously sorry I needed help she she did that you know she did she got
01:18:20
that um and then I kind of jumped out of it then I would start running or start doing ballet and you know that helped
01:18:30
but you know I think the conversation of of no matter where you're at or or how
01:18:37
little you think somebody something is and and you think it's not big enough to
01:18:42
really worry you will it's big enough to jolt you off then find the help that you need or or
01:18:49
talk to your friends because you know you want to be in a place of of compassion and love and care and feel
01:18:57
safe and nurtured so no matter how little that thing you think is is little it's big enough to jolt you off so so
01:19:05
find that care that you need of safety of being safe and I think that's what
01:19:12
those whether they were right or wrong they provided safety yeah and and someone to listen to and I think
01:19:18
sometimes parents um as much as you have a great relationship like I did mum was still
01:19:25
great she like you need to talk to somebody who can listen to you you know yeah not who can listen to you sorry
01:19:32
that is a different than me because yeah you know I think it's good yeah absolutely it is it feels so good so so
01:19:40
the um so the Rachel that we saw like from 16 onwards who didn't didn't seem
01:19:45
necessarily very in which like she's very no that's what I mean like was that
01:19:49
a mask no all of a sudden everything no because at the time I also remember when I was
01:19:57
modeling actually bring up a good point I was modeling so much that when I was done with work
01:20:04
um I would go to the church because I knew people would be in there so I could actually sit in the church
01:20:10
and be surrounded by people so I wasn't alone and then I'd go back and then the
01:20:15
next day I would be leaving to go and do another shoot or whatever but I would use the
01:20:20
um a church like a religious place to actually have that moment of feeling connected centered with people and
01:20:28
because otherwise what you'd be back in your hotel room on your own yeah or something like that yeah so it was funny
01:20:33
that that's what I kind of went to yeah unbelievable and how are you today you
01:20:40
feeling good today yeah like I just you know I mean I've obviously I spent a lot
01:20:44
of time in India and and that's created different tools for me like you know
01:20:48
leaning into some fears that sometimes that arise like it's it's a completely
01:20:53
different type of I guess therapy of of looking for things but at the same time like I said if anything got to a point
01:21:02
where um it continues and continues I would I would absolutely ask for help from
01:21:07
somebody now yeah so what is you what does your day look like now it seems like you're doing a lot of meditation
01:21:12
and a lot of yoga No I actually said on Instagram a lot of like walking around with cows
01:21:20
and and and talking to them yeah and talking to them um no like I I do that but at the same
01:21:26
time like I'm I'm I was just in Jaipur like I was looking at doing like a
01:21:30
couple of things with with different like you know creating pajama sets and like bed wear and all that kind of stuff
01:21:38
um because that's where a lot of cotton is and obviously making sure it's
01:21:40
ethical as well but um you know I I go and meditate and then I mean I was very excited to know that Renee's down here
01:21:50
um obviously I knew Renee was coming down here so to spend time with her but spend time with with friends
01:21:56
um but yeah it's not all um yoga meditation this is what we see on Instagram it's like oh my God does
01:22:02
she ever get out of the downward dog I know but I do when I get to India like I do go into these really you know like
01:22:10
deep Dives and then then come out I do I do love it you know yeah yeah it makes you feel good yeah makes you feel good
01:22:18
of uh fallen off the wagon but I did a TM Transit meditation for a number of years like 20 minutes in the morning
01:22:23
yeah yeah three minutes in the afternoon I should get back to it because it felt
01:22:26
really good it was like having a power nap it does yeah it reboots it and send us yourself yeah yeah and you're going
01:22:33
to become um a grandmother for the first time in May how many times people are going what are
01:22:38
you gonna get called like what are you what is the baby gonna call you and stuff no no I know
01:22:47
I feel like you yeah yeah so this is your son yeah Liam Liam and Nicole yeah right yeah does it feel
01:22:55
because I feel like um your daughter Renee like if she's if she's ever lucky
01:23:00
enough to to get pregnant I feel like the mum's more involved when it's the
01:23:03
daughter does it feel that way from your perspective when you know it's your
01:23:07
son's partner having the baby no I just I I to me as long as Liam and Nicole
01:23:14
like are are happy and and you know they've been they've known each other
01:23:22
for so long and also you know I I think to have this it's just amazing honestly
01:23:28
I was in discipline I was just in disbelief and it and it's beautiful because I mean the family's big anyway
01:23:34
like I mean Kimberly has Delilah and now we've got you know Ruby and and Liam and Nicole but I don't know I I
01:23:42
don't know what the grandma territory looks like but it's exciting though and
01:23:46
you've you're very young to be a grandmother as well and Nicole and and Liam and Tina like all of us are I mean
01:23:53
it's all very close anyway there's there's just it just seems like this big family
01:23:59
anyway you know and they have a Nicole is a big family as well so yeah I don't
01:24:04
know I guess so but at the same time I you know I feel involved with Liam anyway but I mean I'm always traveling
01:24:14
too so I'm interested to see how it all but I blocked off literally the entire
01:24:18
summer because I just want to you know be there if they need yeah they need me yeah it's one thing you get off social
01:24:25
media you seem to have um but there is a big connection between the mother and daughter I think too yeah absolutely I
01:24:30
think that there is a really important but at the same time I fully there and I'm so excited for it do you know if
01:24:38
you're allowed to be at the birth or oh God I have no idea yeah yeah no I don't
01:24:42
know um yeah oh that's really exciting from this is just basing purely on social
01:24:48
media but it seems like you have a fantastic relationship with both your kids yeah no though though honestly
01:24:53
they're just amazing I mean we were just talking about it before it's funny how
01:24:57
things happen because with Liam I was around like when he was up in Spokane up to when he was in his his twenties then
01:25:05
he went over there and then now I'm spinning obviously Renee and I spending a lot of time together with that so you
01:25:11
know as they are growing different relationships I'm more the one who's like I don't want to be like actually
01:25:18
stationed anywhere I just want to follow them around like I just want to follow not be annoying but I just want to be
01:25:25
like I'm going to dip into like Liam and Nicole and the baby and then go and see
01:25:30
Renee and you know whoever when you know when whatever happens there um yeah so I get to I think that's exciting
01:25:39
for me I still I sold my house in 2020 when the covet hit and basically so you're homeless renting a house all my
01:25:47
houses in storage and so I'm just floating around so I think that's what
01:25:51
people don't understand either is I don't actually have the so-called family
01:25:55
house anymore I have like I'm living in my one bedroom apartment with my Pomeranian
01:26:01
um following my kids around so that's it yeah but that paint's a very sad picture
01:26:05
which I think is not a fair reflection no that's not a sad picture why did you
01:26:12
so did you have like a like how long was you were you in your last house for was
01:26:15
it like oh my God you raise the kids yeah raise the kids was that was that sad or are you not Material oh my God no
01:26:20
no it was really like it was sad it was our family home but it was just getting to the point where everybody was
01:26:25
traveling and um the dog inside the house and I would obviously be going and visiting Renee
01:26:32
and Liam and so when I got back from from being in lockdown in India I um I just moved into where my sister was
01:26:41
just for the time being and haven't really left so you know now you know now
01:26:46
I have to kind of at some point make a decision of where where I want to kind of
01:26:51
cement myself but at the same time I don't really want to yeah and like living simply I mean I'm envious I'm
01:26:58
envious of you I I I I I I feel I suppose materialistic I I feel like I always need a base somewhere but I think
01:27:04
it's very courageous what you're doing just having [ __ ] in storage and other
01:27:08
things they're just things yeah but I mean I have all my stuff that I love and
01:27:11
in this one bedroom apartment and make oh my God you know leave goodbye and I go and see the kids
01:27:19
it's a great situation and the next 30 years of 30 years of your life How's
01:27:23
that gonna look I feel like 15 years of my life easy no so what do you know 53 yeah so I
01:27:36
was like how old am I so like I think um if you can get to get to 80 and still be
01:27:41
in good shape I think that's good anything after there it's like a gray area as long as you're still like
01:27:46
absolutely cognitive and you're still able to physically move I think yeah on
01:27:51
the Assumption you've got another 30 good years yeah how's that going to look
01:27:53
what do you want to do anything you want to do that you haven't done yet no at
01:27:56
the same time I don't think I'd change anything right now as far as like you
01:28:00
know going and doing what I want to do six months of the year obviously that can be over any months or two weeks or
01:28:06
whatever it is but and then just be able to be with my kids like that's what I
01:28:10
want like be able to share the the times that my kids have when they have families
01:28:17
um and then go on you know go and do the work that I'm doing as well so I see it
01:28:22
as a is a good thing for for now that's what it is now as far as a relationship
01:28:27
I don't know if that when that person comes along then then great yeah do you
01:28:31
think that that like one or I mean that one true love is still out there I just think I'm in a menopause right now I
01:28:37
don't know what is it what does that mean exactly just going into hot sweats
01:28:42
like it's so good I've only done two since we've been filming so that's not bad and especially that
01:28:48
we're talking about emotional stuff so it tends to rise with emotion but um I
01:28:53
am lucky I just kind of and I think also the yoga for me helps um because I know
01:28:58
when that that it's just like heat rising in your body and I'm lucky that's
01:29:03
all I have so what are the other symptoms what have you got to look forward to everyone at home get your notebook out
01:29:13
especially men sorry you have to pardon my ignorance here no but it's really fascinating yeah
01:29:21
yeah you should definitely get a doctor who is informed on the subject because women would be craving especially for a
01:29:28
man to understand it too I think it's nice because I think especially with the
01:29:33
Heat and the the rapid emotions that can when I it first started happening to me
01:29:39
I was like oh that's a really fast emotion to feel and you know with with the
01:29:47
tools that I have with with what I've learned I've learned to kind of calm
01:29:52
that down but the sweats up and it's not a great time because during covert you
01:29:56
don't want to be sitting this wedding because people are like do you have a fever especially on a plane I know where
01:30:03
has it sort of changed your personality in a way do you think no I don't think
01:30:07
so no no do you think so no absolutely not just sweat exactly that's like Divine timing that
01:30:17
I'm actually but to be honest with you I sweat a lot you know I'm a sweater
01:30:21
anyway so yeah and um and how do you feel about aging like I I feel like you're very good with aging yeah and
01:30:27
you've done TV shows about it and um but you've been from that moral background I suppose it's something
01:30:31
everyone's sort of curious about do you have you had any work done or just stuff
01:30:35
for TV no like I I did you know BOTOX for TV yeah for yeah Beauty like there's definitely you know
01:30:45
situations that I look at now and go okay like do your eyelids need to start being like you know when does that start
01:30:54
happening you know sometimes around my neck like you kind of get cracked but this is all just this is all just that
01:31:01
stage of of awareness that we have and we see so much on social media of like and that now a woman who's really done
01:31:10
filler and Botox and different things like they're happy with what they're
01:31:13
doing but it's also become somewhat the norm too right yeah um but I don't know I think again you
01:31:20
have to do what makes you happy you know you have to do what makes you happy you
01:31:25
know if you want to tell people great if you don't want to tell people then great
01:31:27
too it's nobody's business um but I mean for now um but I I definitely go oh you know
01:31:34
what shall I do I try and keep things really simple with my with my beauty regime as far as
01:31:41
products and stuff but as far as you know food keeping it simple very not a lot of sugar keeping away from all the
01:31:50
you know the the Wheats and stuff as much as I can but again with diet like someone will be like oh you said that on
01:31:56
on you know the podcast or whatever but sometimes I'll have pasta sometimes I'll
01:32:00
go and eat you know if a fish sometimes you know or a piece of chicken or whatever
01:32:07
um it just depends and then sometimes it just all falls away you know I don't eat
01:32:11
meat whatsoever yeah what if anybody's craving yeah you're not much of a
01:32:14
drinker are you no I did a lot of that did you think yeah yeah yeah that was those were some fun times
01:32:22
the 20s and 30s definitely had my my moments yeah amazing I think you've got
01:32:27
to get out of your system yeah I mean yeah it was it was fun it was fun and what about um what about exercise now do
01:32:35
you still run at all no because I had back surgery so I had s1l4 surgery on my back
01:32:42
um part of me would love to because do you know what the part I love about running
01:32:47
that struggle at like 15 15 to 20 minutes and then all of a sudden you push through and you get to that stage
01:32:56
where you just could go forever and ever and ever that moment to me that struggle
01:33:02
is just like anything we do in life that you know you're you're trying to get
01:33:07
like you know your pace corrected and then the Mind goes and then the breath goes
01:33:12
and then this goes and then your piece gets off and then all of a sudden like I said between that isn't it between 15
01:33:18
and 20 minutes I guess depending on how fat you are yeah that push through that happens then all of a sudden that
01:33:24
expansion happens and or you you could run forever yeah it's almost like a flow
01:33:28
State oh my God but even exactly even on the days when that doesn't happen like
01:33:32
you never get home and think I regret doing that no you always feel so much better so what do you do to keep fit
01:33:36
back why can't you run run retrain yeah I don't I would really love to maybe it's
01:33:47
something that I should look back into because I mean it but I do do a lot of walking a lot of up and down a lot of
01:33:52
hiking um I'll do yoga and I also love doing um like Renee's got me into
01:33:59
um body sculpt society which is like you do dancing as well I think it's always
01:34:03
good to have a good dance and a good laugh too so any of those types of workouts as well weights is also
01:34:08
important too for like someone who's older waiting I know how does this happen right
01:34:16
um but when it was yeah do you have a moment every now and then when you look in the mirror and you're like oh [ __ ]
01:34:20
that's me to vote like can we delete that photo okay in the morning you still used to
01:34:28
look fabulous I reckon I think you look great but great I think you're aging
01:34:31
absolutely beautifully thank you so are you oh [ __ ] oh some days I'll look in the mirror and
01:34:38
it's like oh [ __ ] that is me age a lot easier like they don't wrinkle I don't know I don't know if I agree
01:34:46
with that he's feeling uncomfortable yeah hey um Ed has been so wonderful having you
01:34:51
having you over today it's amazing you're like you're an absolute New
01:34:54
Zealand treasure at the beginning I mentioned um the thing uh the the celebrity walk here at Victoria Park
01:35:00
just over the road like you're on there amongst some iconic kiwis a lot of there's a lot of who are still alive but
01:35:07
a lot of who are dead now like Sir Edmund Hillary Dame Fina Cooper Rob Muldoon Barry Trump Peter Blake and it's
01:35:14
amazing it's like you like I I don't think I can paint a picture successfully
01:35:19
enough for the younger listeners and viewers to this podcast about just how famous you are the only thing comparable
01:35:25
is probably lured recently different sort of career path in terms of music but that's the level of Fame we're
01:35:31
talking it was um what you went through is crazy yeah I I hope well I I'm looking at maybe writing a book I've
01:35:39
been really reluctant to do that um or an audio or a Kindle or whatever your other
01:35:45
so awesome you've done a book hey you've done like a tour of Judy book yeah yeah give her a
01:35:53
book about your life why not I I think I'm ready to do it now I think I'm
01:35:57
definitely ready to do that and I actually want to do two because I think the spiritual journey is really because
01:36:03
that's got a lot of comedy in it too you know it has a lot of yeah it so I think to I'd like to do two
01:36:09
different types of books um but yeah I think I'll do that do that soon but I
01:36:16
yeah I'm I'm just really grateful and I think that the the New Zealand I don't know whether
01:36:24
this is weird to say but I think the support of New Zealand really May uh like who you are because there's the
01:36:32
support of New Zealand there you know I I don't know it it I it was just weird timing I guess or or the timing
01:36:41
was what happened I I mean I still was getting the bust doing modeling you know so it's it's the whole thing is just
01:36:49
bizarre when you look back from this quiet inward person who like I said was was was having her moments and then like
01:36:55
16 hat it was like someone came along and like threw the sheets off and was like this
01:37:01
is a completely different human being like honestly it was like that and I did have I'll tell you what I did have I had
01:37:08
toxoplasmosis and the only way the doctors said like you'd have to stay in bed for the next nine months my mum goes
01:37:15
no way you're going to a naturopath took me to a to a herbalist got me on this
01:37:21
disgusting tea that I drunk for at least three months got better she also said it
01:37:26
was I think it was this amazing Indian doctor and she said you need him it was called a metamorphic massage and she
01:37:34
started massaging my feet she was a ballerina too and I was like oh you know what that
01:37:40
mum's like this is what I grew up with the next thing I'm she goes in 10 days
01:37:45
you're going to see something happen I swear to you I don't know what happened to me but I was like this quiet
01:37:51
in which I all of a sudden I was outspoken don't talk to that thing like that no that's you don't you do that
01:37:58
like completely outspoken and the next thing I was you know and like working in a modeling agency amazing how was that
01:38:06
yeah so those scenario that was a bit weird that was a little bit of the woo-woo part of the story but it's good
01:38:13
that you can recognize the way we're in parts of the story yeah like who is that
01:38:17
I don't even know what it Google that to me so much homework how does a metamorphic massage I've got no idea I'm
01:38:25
going to be Googling that as well I don't even know whether we should put that out there
01:38:29
um a bit about Robbie Williams maybe hey Rachel Hunter thank you so much you are
01:38:38
an absolute um National Treasure and it's been wonderful having us so are you thank you
01:38:43
yeah thanks for sharing I really appreciate your dog he's funny he's exhausted
01:38:50
he's tired I love you so much thank you very much thank you [Music]