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There are definitely moments where we could have died. Like if we went down it we would be dead. It was rocky so like
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there was rocks and trees at the bottom of this waterfall and our boat lodged up against two rocks between the
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waterfall. So it was the boys were on the middle of the waterfall and our boat was like lodged up in in the middle of
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it. We like they launched us out of their boats and so there was four of us standing on the middle of this rock on
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sunset with our boats down the bottom of the waterfall because they'd fallen
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down. With the PLB everything in the boats that we couldn't get. So we were like what the heck are we going to do?
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Like we It was pretty scary. Like it doesn't sound too scary but it was like
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it was one of the scariest moments of our lives. So Dean like horizontally jumped over the waterfall into like the
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moving water and like swam out into uh into the shore. And then we luckily had our paddles so
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we he like put out his paddle and Finn jumped and grabbed the paddle and yeah he got yanked to the other side. So then
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it was just Siar and I on this water on this rock. And I'm bad at swimming in
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general and so I was like I can't do this. And he's like well you have to. So I
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remember just Siar picking me up and literally throwing me and I like just caught the paddle and they pulled me
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pulled me out into the side of the the river and it was we were like really shaken up and we had to walk all through
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the night with our wet clothes and that was definitely like a moment where we were like wow we that could have been
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deathly. >> Yeah. Most sane people at this point would be like okay let's
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let's tap out. >> Yeah. >> Let's tap out of this ravine and regroup. Do you Yeah what's your
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relationship like with risk and fear? >> Um I kind of love it. I I mean I sometimes don't like it in the moment
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like the last few months ago I did this massive mission around Mount Cook and there was multiple sections where I was
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well outside my comfort zone. Like rock climbing with no ropes and things like that. But I said to mom I said I'm sorry
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but I really want to keep doing things like that because I just feel like Ah, I just love it. I don't know why. I
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just the fear Um I I don't know. There's just I can't explain the feeling but I just love that
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feeling of fear and risk and definitely I won't push myself out side where I'm might die.