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How Mike King & John Kirwan Helped NZ’s Mental Health CRISIS

October 20, 2023 / 03:55

This episode features discussions on mental health, trauma, and the importance of vulnerability. Guests Mike King and Boris Srov share their experiences with mental illness.

The conversation begins with a personal account of dealing with guilt and shame related to past trauma. The speaker reflects on how suppressed memories can affect behavior and interactions throughout life.

Mike King and Boris Srov, known for their work in mental health advocacy, discuss their roles in promoting open conversations about mental health. They emphasize the significance of creating safe spaces for individuals to share their struggles.

Throughout the episode, the guests highlight the challenges faced by those with mental illness and the societal stigma surrounding it. They encourage listeners to confront their issues rather than suppress them.

The episode concludes with a call for more open dialogue about mental health, stressing that vulnerability can lead to healing and connection.

TL;DR

Mike King and Boris Srov discuss mental health, trauma, and the importance of vulnerability in healing.

Episode

3:55
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guilt is I did something wrong shame is
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I am something wrong and I felt both of
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those things I did something wrong I am
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something wrong and then when I so I'm
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I'm was going to move forward so as I
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moved forward doing shop BR in the first
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year I had to go see a shrink again
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thanks to Mike King he shouted me a
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shrink cuz i' hadn't seen one for a
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while and I had all the stuff started
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come out being sexually molested and I
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thought I was holding M memories for
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somebody else that's how my mind was
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dealing with this oh you're holding like
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a memory s someone gave me a memory
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stick oh these aren't my memories I must
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be holding this for somebody else and I
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didn't realize that those memories were
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my memories of me that i' suppressed so
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I've got all the stuff suppressed
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brother that's and when I meet people
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have been through trauma even wor way
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worse than I've been we compartmentalize
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it to survive so we pack it away to try
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and move on but you don't realize
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throughout your life your fight flight
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or freeze yeah and your interactions you
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don't even know that are Guided by those
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three pillars
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and so you when you don't know what's
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wrong with you you'll just keep
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continuing this this way of Behaving and
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when I metet other people like me male
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and female who've been on the journey uh
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we've got so many similar traits like a
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physical mental spiritual Outlet to help
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others show them like hey man you're not
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crazy you're hurting cuz I was told I
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was crazy and then either that I was
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dismissed yeah who who told you you were
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crazy people were telling me crazy right
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and I'm saying you know and think about
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families families don't want to deal
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with your mental illness which is I'm
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not blaming families I'm just saying
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they don't have the tools to deal with
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it and our parents generation and our
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grandparents generation this was this
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was one of the ultimate shames to have
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have somebody with mental having a
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mental breakdown so all of that stuff is
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buried and you're dismissed you're
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either dismissed and dissolved or told
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to just shut your mouth yeah can I just
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share a little on her side that when she
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said about about the John Coan head when
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John Coan would speak about his problems
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on the TV and no was around I'd be
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telling John to shut up because him
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talking was irritating my demons and so
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as I go around australasia sometimes me
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talking irritates other people's demons
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cuz they don't want to hear it they've
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they've drunk enough done enough drugs
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or done enough whatever they have to
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squash it down and when someone else is
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speaking as freely as you and I are on
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the couch over there could be somebody
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going what those two would shut the f up
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because man that's freaking me out and
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so I understand that now before I used
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to think I was I was the problem by for
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for talking about I used to have been
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made to think that I was crazy cuz I was
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speaking out aloud what I realiz that
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you're crazy if you don't address this
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you talk about s Sir John Ken Mike King
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Mike King help me on my journey and um
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did you did you know Mike before 2009 no
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I mean of course I knew who he was but I
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didn't know him at all so my mental
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breakdown I ended up on the nut club
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which was uh which is still going it's a
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great show um talking about mental
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health openly and I'd never met so I met
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Mike King and and his right one of his
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right-hand men uh Boris srov and I'd
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never heard two males ever speak so
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openly and vulnerably and normally about
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mental health and it freaked me out I
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thought this must be an alien planet
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I've never heard men speak like this
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before and it helped change the game for
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me not then cuz it freaked me out but
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much later down the track when I started
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the shop bro journey I realized where
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the doorway was cuz two Brave males
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showed me what it's like to talk
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normally about your mental health yeah
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and I suppose um in a way like the nuts
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club and that platform that they gave
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you that's um it's kind of like the brne
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brown thing it's like you show
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vulnerability and like you put your
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cards on the table and then lets the
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other person know that it's a safe space
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and they can put their cards on the
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table too

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Episode Highlights

  • Breaking the Silence
    Meeting Mike King changed everything. It showed me how to talk openly about mental health.
    “I've never heard men speak like this before.”
    @ 03m 17s
    October 20, 2023
  • Creating Safe Spaces
    Vulnerability fosters connection. Sharing our struggles can create safe spaces for others.
    “You show vulnerability and put your cards on the table.”
    @ 03m 46s
    October 20, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • You’re not crazy; you’re hurting.
    How Mike King & John Kirwan Helped NZ’s Mental Health CRISIS

Key Moments

  • Mental Health Journey03:00
  • Vulnerability Matters03:46

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