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Runners only with dom Harvey the 1 million download episode where I'm being interviewed by one of the most popular
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guests on the podcast so far JJ hello oh hi uh I'm just a one name am I like
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Madonna yeah what is your last name these days you changed it back in a bloody hurry didn't
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you well yeah couldn't wait to get rid of that Harvey surname bloody hell well
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um look I just thought if I'm if I'm going to be interviewing you today um shouldn't I be sitting in your seat
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oh do you want to should I but as that's going to muck up things for Jack who's
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doing all the videoing isn't it because he's he's adjusted the camera to your
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face and everything and Jack okay should I okay okay right I'm sitting in your seat today no
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actually don't bother I can't be bothered I can't be bothered but I do
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have a clipboard so God's so disruptive oh all right so here we go you've done a
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million downloads yes well that's amazing I just want to applaud you for that it's actually incredible Dom you're
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proud of yourself thank you yeah I um I mean you know me better than most people
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and you know how um you know you have you have a goal in mind and I I do find it hard to enjoy
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celebrating the moment moments or the process like I'm constantly thinking about where I want to be
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um but I am trying my absolute best to like just pause and take stock of these moments like a million downloads you
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need to we missed some of our best years on our radio show because we never stopped and thought about how good we
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were doing at the time that's that's so true but you say we but I feel like that
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was more a me issue well yeah because you you you well you were leading everybody in the team your attitude your
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ambition you're the one it's like we we did everything to make Dom happy
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[Laughter] former radio presenter uh famous promoter generally for boxing events and
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former New Zealand rugby league player he was on the podcast earlier this year and he sort of become uh like a mentor
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in a way like oh that's good it's um because I suppose he's like an entrepreneur and he's done his own
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business stuff for a number of years and he he will just call me like every three
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to four weeks just to check in um I'm actually getting quite emotional thinking about it because it's the most
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undeen lonigan thing um because you know because everyone thinks of them this this big hard guy
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but he'll call me for a few weeks just to ask how how it's going ask I've got
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coming up ask how the sponsorship's going giving me tips for how I could approach people and ask them for
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sponsorship and he's he's a couple of months ago he called me and I said oh I
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just had I had Rachel Hunter on last week and we're going out for dinner tonight and and he's like [ __ ] mate
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you're going out for dinner with Rachel Hunter tonight he's goes [ __ ] the
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sponsorship [ __ ] everything else you know you do what you love and the money will come eventually but he said you
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need to like pause and appreciate that you're having these pinch yourself moments you're having these amazing new
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zealanders come over to your house for these incredible conversations and he said you're gonna you're gonna look back
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in five years from now when this podcast is where you think you want it to be and
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you're going to miss these moments now um yeah he's right Dean thank you for
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supporting dog no you need people like him in your life does he have any money for sponsorship
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no no no he's trying to get he's always getting people to sponsor his events oh
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okay the hustle is hard the hustle is hard um I've just taken off my jacket because I thought it was a bit warm in
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here all right every time I'm just looking at the camera do I look fatter on TV than in real life
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because I swear I had never had this big chin okay never mind anyhow you're very
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hard on yourself okay Dominic I've got a clipboard on this clipboard I have questions and a
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lot of them come from your followers so they sent a lot of questions I'm going
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to get to them later okay but first of all I just want to say you know you've
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done a million downloads of your podcast which I don't think anyone would have
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predicted and also you've done it really quickly um so let's just for one minute
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okay we've only got five seconds five seconds of Silence to commemorate it's amazing good on you yeah I know I'm
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just I'm super appreciative for um I mean it's all been done independently
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so there hasn't been any support from a big Media company or any sort of organization so it's just basically done
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by um I suppose like you know I need to give myself a pat on that consistency by
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doing a podcast every [ __ ] Monday without fail but also people enjoying it and then going to the point of like
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sharing it on social media or word of mouth with their friends so if you're one of the especially if you're one of
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the yearly listeners before the video's set up and everything else and you told
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someone about it thank you so much yeah it's been instrumental in the growth
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it's been amazing okay um so just into a few questions about about your podcasting your journey
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oh you gave me a coffee before I haven't had breakfast um have you had a guest that has surprised
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you isn't like you already had a preconceived idea about them and either they came in here and they were way
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better than you expected or they were a real dick whatever just someone who was not what you expected
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um first of all to answer part of that question I will say there's been no one
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that's been a dick all right and this there hasn't been one episode yet that
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I've that I've been at where because you know what I'm like with quality control yeah but there's there's
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been no one that I've spoken to and they've gone away and I've gone I I
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don't even want to publish that it's been a waste of time um everyone's got a story as long as you
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give them the space to share in terms of people that have surprised me there's a
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couple actually like um Matthew rich and Adam Ferrari okay Adam Ferrari was this year so he's he's on
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video um Reggie unfortunately this was in the early days of the podcast so there's no
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video of it um but they were they were both just amazing and you have these perceptions
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of these people like people generally think they're both like tosses or tools
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or arrogant aucklanders or whatever and they both they're both really surprised
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me and I think it's just um maturity and age yeah and chilling out so maybe they
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were Ducks but they neither of them resonate with the person they were you know 15 20 25 years ago that's the thing
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people change people grow people evolve you learn from things that happen in your life yeah and generally well you
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should become a better person rather than a worse person in a way the more I the more respect to people on the
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podcast the more I think about it um I think um like growing up and like having regrets or embarrassment about how you
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were is a good thing yeah right because it does mean you've changed and it does
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mean yeah you've evolved yeah oh by the way I got you this great present it's um
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for those watching the video it's a tissue box in the shape of radio and I just thought I'd give you one because
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you've got moisture around the old nose from from just no just getting emotion about Dean yeah yeah and I just
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thought you know yeah that was a lovely gift wasn't it where is that from like
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online see Etsy yeah because there have been some emotional moments on the podcast they
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have been a lot of people crying um in male do you do now compared to when you were on the radio
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oh this this is something that's been a really really big surprise I mean you
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worked at the edge for me for most of my time there yeah and you there's there's
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a tech system people text and you get it instantly and it's well I know what it what what do you
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think the percentage was good and mostly good yeah like 80 80 20. oh probably 90
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good 90. okay um depending on what we were doing at the time yeah there were a couple of
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things we've got 90 bad but let's not go there yeah um all the all the deems like it have
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been have been really nice uh there's some people that have um sent me some like constructive criticism or that's
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good or ideas which I I do appreciate um but there's been nothing bad and there's probably like an average of say
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20 to 30 messages per week and it's um oh I found it really humbling actually
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that people would take the time to do that because I listen to podcasts tonight before this I'd never message
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someone to say hey I think you're doing a really good job and you know yeah I
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really appreciate the work you're doing and I know but now I make a point of
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doing that because it like it takes nothing out of your day one little thing like that makes
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someone's day oh I mean JJ like you you know better than anyone right just how
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much of a struggle this was in the first year yeah in terms of like you're trying
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to convince people to sponsor it trying to get trying to get money coming in for
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it um but during those bleaked or not not Bleak times but hard times um it's the messages from people that
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sort of keep you going yeah to keep that fire in your belly um do you my boyfriend hawani wanted me to ask you
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this I said to him last night oh what should I ask Tom tomorrow and he asked have you run more or less since you
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started the podcast or kids that's so cute Hawaiian is fantastic he's lovely
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um funnily enough less a lot less and the reason being I've had a knee injury
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oh really um so I launched this podcast called Runners only and then about three
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months after that I got diagnosed with osteoarthritis and the inside of my knee so
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um and we did some physios and they told me I'd never run again and I said when you're a runner and you get told
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that you've got osteoarthritis this is going to sound so melodramatic but at that moment it probably felt
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similar to someone getting like a cancer diagnosis honestly it felt like the room
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was spinning around me really well I thought I better run again and that's what she was saying she the the Physio
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and she was just highly recommended and highly qualified she said if it hurts when you run then the solution is just
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not to run um have you been listening to her no no I found another physio Dominic my girlfriend Ash she said the
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same thing she's like Dom you can't you can't just keep replacing physios until
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you hear what you want to hear but it turns out you can and you are a shocker no and through sheer like perseverance
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and hard work I've done I've strengthened the muscles and tendons around it and I can I can run again I'm
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slower than what I was but like for the mental health benefits I can get what I need out of it okay so I'm ecstatic to
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be running again what about you have you run morally since I launched the podcast
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nothing okay nothing let's move on um so I had I know I know you wanted to get someone
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there was someone that you wanted to get on the podcast I probably shouldn't name
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them should I oh okay well Paul Henry yesterday I saw him and I said to him oh Don would really love to get you on the
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podcast because he is hilarious and he's got so many great stories I'm sure
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um but he goes first thing he said was but I don't run I hate running so people
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have this perception that your podcast is only for runners so uh have you got any thoughts to
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change that perception at all I've been um yeah I that's a question I get a lot
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and like a lot of people that DM me they'll say that they're like I I put
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off listening to it for a long time because I'm not a runner or they'll say
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I don't run but I love your podcast LOL um and I've been in two minds about one
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of my favorite podcasts is this English guy called Stephen Bartlett and he's got
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a podcast called Diary of a CEO and I say he's an entrepreneur in the UK I think he's one of the judges on like
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Shark Tank or Dragon's Den one of those shows so it started off as a Diary of a
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CEO thing but now he just interviews big stars every week like last week he had Rita oron for a deep chat and she talked
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about tiger waititi and all sorts of stuff and so his name hasn't changed and
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it's fine um someone two minds about it it's like do you do you [ __ ] with it or but anyway
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long story short I am I am going to change it that's what's on the neon sign right
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here yeah and you know it is less about running now yeah I mean you do you do ask everyone about their running but
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whether they've even done that lately well there you go well and change your name I don't think
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anyone's going to hate you for it no well I mean the reason for it in the first place so I launched the podcast
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and um I think March or April 2022 and I spoke to some branding people and they said to me and their information was
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right at the time they said the podcast Market is so congested at the moment you
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kind of need a niche to cut through and I think I I discussed it with you at the
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time I'm sure you probably did but and you do have a niche and now you've had a
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million downloads I think it's okay to change your name to Dom Harvey what do you
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think people send your feedback in what's domharvey NZ gmail.com okay um I've got more questions these are my
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questions I'm asking you haven't got to the fan questions yet okay okay um I want to talk about your sponsors
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because I know how important they are and um and how awesome they are red X for example
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um oh my God okay I want you to tell me about Radix and what they do and why they're so amazing okay
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um Radix nutrition they've um the founder is a guy called Mike rattling who's an English guy that was raised in
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Northland of New Zealand and he's oh I don't know I'd say it's like the
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Elon Musk of New Zealand like he's just his brain is like a computer and he just
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wants to make people healthier basically with what they eat and what they put into their body and I've I've I was a
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fan of Radix like before they even sponsored the podcast but they they came to me they came to me and they the
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podcast I mentioned before diary of the CEO they said oh there's a podcast be
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like in the UK and it's sponsored by a company called huel and we think we're
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sort of like the huel of New Zealand and um we don't know what a podcast sponsorship Arrangement would look like
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but we really like what you're doing and we'd love to be involved in um honestly
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I cannot stress how important they have been for the growth of the podcast like it's their their
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backing and their support and their encouragement and not just with money as well like with just advice and
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everything it's been remarkable and you know they're a startup as well and I'm sure with the
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money that they're spending on the podcast they could spend that they could buy Billboards or something with it you
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know or get ads on the radio but um the fact that they've done this it's um I
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mean I'm addicted to them I really am so they came on at the beginning of the
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year for like a 10-week sponsorship to see what that looked like then at the completion of that they uh sign on for
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another six months that's so good but you need more sponsors because you know
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it costs a lot so you've got another one now too yeah it had skins so this is
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another really really um generous thing about Radix like they um they made it clear uh early on that
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they couldn't give me as much money as what I wanted to do the things that I
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want to do with the podcast but they said they'd be open to co-sponsor with other people as long as they're
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non-competing yeah um so they were happy to you know share with Skin Institute so
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skin institute's been on for the last you know six weeks or so um and it's been bloody great yeah it's
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allowed me to do things like the the light in here and the cameras and the whole setup it's allowed me to do that
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um I've got a guy Jack on the other side of the wall That's mixing this video as
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we do it I've got to go Jacques in Hamilton that makes little video clips for social media
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um got a click on Marcus that helps me out with the social media so it's a whole team we've got going on there yeah
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and that would not be possible without ratings and what about your other sponsor JJ Feeney
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she paid your rent what do you mean no no no we've still got a we've still got a company so uh
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We've stood our finances intertwined and I've got to say um I probably would have given up last year
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sometime if it if it hadn't been for that sort of backing because um yeah before Radix came along there
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were some great sponsors last year like Dion Nash from triumphant disaster he came along like a couple of episodes
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into it um he had a meeting and he said listen I didn't have much money for marketing but
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um I'm happy to give you a couple of grand and sponsor a few episodes and he
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said I don't know once once other companies see you've got a sponsor maybe
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it'll start like a you know a Tipping Point effect and you'll get other people
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on and he was actually dead right yeah after that Cookie Time cookies came on awesome in Hawaii and a couple of other
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couple of other short-term sponsors and that was that was really really cool so I can't thank Dion enough of that so
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just this is just a word out there because you've got lots of subscribers who probably have a bit of pull in the
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finance department at their work um so why should they maybe jump on to uh sponsor an episode or two of your
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podcasts well I think they get value out of it I I I well I'm the I'm the CEO around here
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I'm running the whole thing I deal with the clients direct so I make I make I go
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over the top like oh I can sell over deliver oh yeah yeah yeah yeah um no it's great and I like the numbers
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are really good and you you'll get a good like good value for money and a good return on investment I think
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because it's not like um I don't want to [ __ ] on radio because that's what JJ does and it's an industry
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I love but I don't [ __ ] on radio he's saying that I do radio because that
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sounded like I don't want to [ __ ] on radio because that's what JJ does yeah
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yeah and it's what I did and I love it but radio ads they they plan if someone's listening to the radio in
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their car when the air break comes on they probably turn it down or they sort of tune out mentally
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um podcast is generally such an intimate form of listening like people usually do
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it alone uh they usually do it with um their ear plugs in and they form a connection with the host so
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um I know you've got me sold on Red X and Skin Institute like go see them see
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if they can deal with my varicose veins oh listen get your miles checked seriously thank you that's also a good
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thing to do um now you've written three books Dom Harvey this is JJ Feeney interviewing Dom
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Harvey if you've just tuned in oh hang on three average books oh and like this
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one good one actually this is a great book this is about um our fertility Journey that
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we're almost holding up my book misconception for those just listening um you can't buy this can you buy this
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anymore I think you can buy it online right very very hard to get you can probably definitely get ebook but um
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it's a great book it's a it's a really helpful resource and it should still be
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more readily available in my opinion I should probably do an update but anyway who has time but what I was going to ask
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you not about my box but you've written three books have you got anything actually 3.5 because I'm a co-author of
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yours okay do you have anything any more in the pipeline not right now okay not right now I'd like I'd love to write
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another book at some point but uh you know it's stressful and it's exhausting
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it's time consuming you and the the advance you get is [ __ ] all yeah for the
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podcast only right it's um it's terrible but it's but in saying that it is the most
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incredible satisfying feeling when you get that first um package and you tear it open and you
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see the physical copy of your book yeah something that you've been working on
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for the last 12 to 18 months and it's got that new book smell and you flick through it
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um it's an incredible feeling but yeah yeah probably works out to be worth about four bucks an hour I don't even
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think it's that much I honestly don't it's so much work it is um okay okay Dom well your podcast is
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super popular popular you've had a million downloads in just over a year what are your top
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three podcasts that you have had would you know were you most your most popular podcast that you've put out okay
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well the most popular it's easy yours is number one is it yeah the podcast that
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we did yeah number one by a long way no in terms of downloads in terms of feedback in terms of YouTube views I
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think I know what people people like it when I give you Shelley maybe yeah I don't know I don't know yeah I don't
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know I don't know why that was but um okay yeah people people loved that um right the next one's probably
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oh it's it's really hard to say because they're all favorites Sam but and
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another one was probably um Zach Guilford the former all black women he came on the podcast around about a year
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in the middle of last year uh when he was still on home detention um because he was so honest so
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transparent so vulnerable about all his [ __ ] ups and um it generated a bit of publicity for
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the podcast and um it sort of helped you know take the podcast to another level but I I just appreciate appreciated it
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appreciated his candidness um I think it did well for him because I think it made Zach Gilford you saw him
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in a new light and you know he instantly hearing that podcast all your preconceptions of him disappeared and
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were replaced by what you heard on that podcast yeah I think he came across really well and really honest and he
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really has um you know he's paid his I think he's paid for what he's done and he's learned
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a good lease and I think I think it was good for him to also get it off his chest so that was a good great podcast
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yeah yeah but yeah one thing that he said and another guy on the podcast um Dr Paul wood who's uh Dr Paul wood
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you probably don't know the guy but he has published two books uh when he was
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18 um he was spiraling out of control his mum was was on her death bed with cancer
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he was a drug addict um his drug dealer made a pass on him uh when they were high and he murdered him
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like killed him with a baseball bat oh and then he spent his entire 20s in jail and uh Prima numo and rimutaka some of
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New Zealand's hardest jails and then Midway through his sentence he you know
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he spent the first five years just getting high all the time getting in fights just living the living the thug
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life in jail and then he thought what the [ __ ] am I doing so he started to educate himself and he read a lot he got
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a couple of degrees while he was in jail and at the moment I like we're friends
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on Instagram he's in Paris with his wife like he's but something that Paul said
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Anzac said it's just really hard to get redemption in New Zealand yeah you know
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this guy's paid his price like he did a terrible thing he doesn't shy away from
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it he spent his entire 20s in jail um and he's turned his life around but he said and same with Zach there's
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people that just want to go nut can't forgive them that's the thing I hate
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about and it is New Zealand we need to stop canceling like so we all make mistakes and most of the people who are
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on social media blagging others God if only we could turn it around on you you know we've all made big mistakes in our
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life we all have regrets but we learn from them that's what you suppose as a
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child when your kid stuffs up you say that's okay you made a mistake we're
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learning from it we don't say [ __ ] you I'm not going to be a parent you're
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canceled you don't like just give people a chance because learn people learn after they've been
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punished they learn most people will learn to be a better person there are some people who are caught up in that
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cycle and you know and those are the real criminals in the world but if someone's making a real Festival
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you've got to think think people when people do bad things like Zach Gilford
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he was in a bad place you know and place we can do crazy things you've got to give people a chance to learn and
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prove that they're trying and getting better and he's done that you'll make Dr
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Dr Paul wood Paul wood I haven't heard that one off your podcast and I must that sounds amazing yeah I'm like
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sitting here with you now like a million episodes a million downloads down and with this nice video set up
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um I do kick myself a bit that um the first year was just Audio Only so they live online but I just don't have I
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don't have the video and there's some amazing episodes but don't you have more
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people listening to the podcast than watching the podcast yes yeah completely but I feel like I feel like that all
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change over time it's nice to have a video if you want to refer to it and if
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you want to go to it so you have your podcast to listen to or you can watch it on YouTube yeah if you want okay yeah
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um yes so yeah there are a couple of my favorites another another couple of favorites are probably real early ones
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like um Jeremy Wells and Mitch James who agreed to come on the podcast before it
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had even launched yeah he's awesome yeah I mean they're both they're both busy
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guys they both get a lot of requests to do podcasts so the fact that they um allowed me to podcast them
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um when I had no downloads or reputation under my belt like it was really cool yep
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that is cool I really you know when you interview these people I they just um go up in my books too you know I have
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a lot of respect for them for coming on and giving you that chance um what about what are the podcasts
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apart from the CEO one that you love to listen to oh there's a bunch um between two beers which is the New
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Zealand one yeah actually I mean you could say they're a competitor like we do we double up on a lot of the same
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content yeah and it's a long form interview but um they do a fantastic I'm in Aura of
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what those guys do oh yeah that's cool yeah why is that why are they so good
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well they they ask good questions and then they just butt out really and let the person let the person talk
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um because I'm from a radio a lifelong radio background I I I'll listen back to
00:25:59
a podcast I know I've got a tendency to like interrupt people or I don't you
00:26:04
know I I [ __ ] I listen back and I [ __ ] hate myself sometimes no but that's because in radio you've got
00:26:10
limited time you've got three minutes for The Voice break and you've got to
00:26:13
keep interrupting the person to move the interview along to where you need it to
00:26:16
go so we trained in that way so I get it but you've got you've got better at
00:26:21
stopping and listening I'm trying I'm trying and another thing that I've got
00:26:25
from those guys for 20 beers um two guys called Stephen Sheamus you know when we were in radio how
00:26:32
um well I've had time to reflect on this and I thought is this a me problem or
00:26:36
was this how we were conditioned by management and I like I don't want to shake responsibility for my own actions
00:26:42
but I do think it was something that we were fed from management you know how the people on other radio stations were
00:26:48
the enemy oh yeah you know it was like I never went for that but I know that's the way
00:26:55
that they try to make it yeah yeah we even had a friend um when we first moved to Auckland with
00:26:59
the edge our friend Stu did the nighttime show on ZM yeah and he'd come around have dinner with us every Sunday
00:27:04
night and I think it was his manager at ZM said oh it's not a good look you hanging out with JJ and Don they do the
00:27:11
British we started on our radio show yeah when he was 15. so there was this this weird sort of thing I don't is it
00:27:18
like that now or have they chilled the [ __ ] out oh no it's not like that now
00:27:21
because too many people have switched teams and gone back and forth and it's
00:27:24
not like that now and I don't think it should be no absolutely it shouldn't but
00:27:27
I mean realistically there's probably say about 200 people in New Zealand that
00:27:31
do radio like what are the chances you do the same [ __ ] job the only enemies and radio are the people who are
00:27:36
absolute [ __ ] quotes who don't who don't give anyone else the time of day and I
00:27:40
think they know who they are [ __ ] what's in life um no I was going somewhere with this um
00:27:46
like so Steve and Seamus between two beers um like we we should be competitors like
00:27:52
I I should see their podcast on a Monday morning see they've got [ __ ] Mark
00:27:57
Alice and be like those [ __ ] how did they get Macker and I don't know but honestly I I root for them and uh
00:28:05
yeah yeah you don't want the same guests as them I know some of them I do New Zealand is
00:28:10
a limited pool but they've been great and we we share ideas and we share resources and they they've got a social
00:28:16
media guy called Marcus and they introduced me to Marcus and well the world is all about co-laying nowadays
00:28:21
yeah you know you get together with the people who do well like you and you build a strong team so what other
00:28:27
podcast do you like um Joe Rogan if it's a guest that I'm interested in um forever though
00:28:34
that's what I found that's what I found really interesting about it before I
00:28:37
launched this because I'd I um so finished on radio I think it's been about six months just thinking about a
00:28:42
podcast and studying podcasts and working out what I liked and what I didn't like about other ones and
00:28:48
I'd go I'd start to go for a run and I'd bring up say Joe Rogan and post Malone
00:28:52
and it'll be three and a half hours um but then you go for a run for an hour
00:28:56
and a half two hours and pause it and go back and listen to it and I found that when I first launched this podcast
00:29:01
people would say to me oh yeah I don't know if I want to listen to I like Jeremy Wells but I don't know if I want
00:29:06
to listen to 80 minutes of them um but then people get their head around podcasts and the fact it's not like a TV
00:29:11
show you don't have to sit down and watch it or listen to it from start to finish no you can watch listen to 20
00:29:16
minutes in your car if you're bored go to something else um another podcast I like
00:29:21
um Dax Shepard you know the actor yes he was in um he's on chirps Without a Paddle like
00:29:29
some sticky comedies yeah no what was that um oh is he from Punk and he's married to
00:29:40
uh Kristen Bell yes yeah okay so he does the podcast called amateur expert and that's amazing that's one of my
00:29:46
favorites what's that about oh it's just him interviewing Hammond um I think it's the uh like nanny or
00:29:52
housekeeper Monica and they um they just interview Super Famous well they've had a Prince Harry on oh yeah
00:29:58
and Obama um but yeah I I listened to that before I launched mine and I'm like that's the
00:30:04
sort of conversations I want to have with people just real conversations it's
00:30:07
yeah very uninterviewy yeah yeah so I love it I love that one um yeah there's a couple of others as
00:30:14
well okay now I'm getting onto that's all for now I'm turning the page
00:30:23
so I've got my clipboard here um I have questions that your fans have sent in
00:30:29
um so I'm just going to go to them now they're disorganized you wouldn't you
00:30:37
wouldn't have this sort of pause on radio no I must say Dom but my but maybe lazy boy's feet up
00:30:48
I feel like actually you yeah the more comfortable the guest is I think yeah the more I
00:30:56
think yep let's do that so I have I have contemplated ideas like like changing
00:31:02
the set and getting like a table so you're sitting across people but I don't
00:31:05
know I feel like if someone's relaxed and they're in a comfortable chair I
00:31:09
mean this chair is comfortable but lazy boy yeah I don't know if you'd put
00:31:14
them in this room though anyway I need to get some more sponsorship money first these are Target chairs yes are they oh
00:31:20
um yes please please sponsor Dom's podcast oh you make it sound real need it oh no I'm just saying it because we
00:31:26
want to do some flash things get new chairs okay um fan questions [Music] yeah have you not pre-read well I have
00:31:37
but I'm just changing my mind now yep your dream guest list mmm oh New Zealand or International I mean
00:31:49
International Elon Musk I'd love [ __ ] Elon Musk that would be incredible have
00:31:53
you thought about going overseas and getting some big names yeah um so I went to Boston earlier this year
00:31:59
with my mum to run the Boston Marathon oh this is a funny story um I I did find a few people in Boston
00:32:05
to speak to not not big names but fabulous guests so one of them was um Billy Evans who was the Boston Police
00:32:10
Commissioner at the time of the Boston bombings amazing um he helped capture those um those young terrorists and
00:32:16
there's a Netflix documentary series about it and he's all through that um I just found his email address online
00:32:21
I emailed him and he he said yes and it's amazing some some random from New Zealand he's never heard of
00:32:28
um and there was Sarah Gerhart who's an author that she's got a great running
00:32:30
book she met with me in Boston as well and um a guy called Ryan Hall who's uh
00:32:35
I'm actually releasing this podcast in the next week or two America's fastest
00:32:40
runner ever in the marathon and half marathon he gave me an hour of his time there was so Boston's like a train ride
00:32:46
from the New York it's a few hours away yeah so I thought who could I speak to
00:32:49
in New York I mean there's no use me trying to get Taylor Swift or Beyonce or Jay-Z because it's
00:32:56
just not going to happen it feels like it's a waste of breath of course yeah
00:32:59
um so you think who could I possibly get so I emailed Billy McFarland does the name hang on wait fire Festival
00:33:09
okay the fire Festival documentary the festival that never happened so I messaged him
00:33:15
um he he I think he was in jail for like 18 months for fraud from the fire festival and he's out now and I messaged
00:33:21
him um and he was prepared to do the podcast and I could have gone to New York to do
00:33:25
it but he won a two and a half Grand US oh okay which he's still scamming people
00:33:31
then well it did um I mean no one pays for interviews yeah I mean like fair enough you know part of
00:33:39
me thought oh that's fair enough in a way it's his time you've got to put
00:33:42
value on your time yeah what what's the return on investment with him but I have
00:33:46
I don't know I don't know if that would come from I haven't had to pay anyone
00:33:49
yet but I don't know if I would compromise it or not I don't know part of me thinks if you're paying him money
00:33:53
he'll give you a better performance because he's being paid for it but part
00:33:58
of me thinks I was just doing he's not it doesn't even want to speak he's doing
00:34:01
it for the money so I don't know you definitely need to get someone to sponsor the episode if you're
00:34:07
paying someone you know like yes but Rhythm and Vines a festival that actually is gonna happen
00:34:13
um so but so who's on your dream guest list apart from Elon Musk um from New Zealand
00:34:19
um top of the dream list and I don't know if this is going to happen would be
00:34:22
um Scott razor Robertson oh yeah awesome let me um let me let me find our text exchange I
00:34:29
have two I have oh okay all right oh I have tried oh this will be good how do I how do I access my text messages
00:34:43
out this is terrible yeah where is it I think you'll leave it in here right you know
00:34:50
in time how long it takes Don to find a text message on his phone no no the problem is um Scott Robertson so okay
00:34:58
scrolling all the way oh my God this is embarrassing so oh okay there's a lot of
00:35:02
views messaging him and no room blue is me like oh honestly I've been persistent
00:35:09
okay well I mean you know sometimes it's a way to get things so the 28th of July
00:35:15
2022. hi Scott my name is Tom Harvey blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah thanks
00:35:21
very much for reading this punishing long message so that was um July August um I repeated the same message again
00:35:29
because he hadn't responded okay so he's just like oi beep beep listen yeah in
00:35:34
case you missed that sort of thing and then he responded straight away Friday 5th of August hey Dom good to hear from
00:35:39
you sounds cool but um I have a new rule only one podcast a year for me personally all the media
00:35:46
take it as an interview and they get articles out of it maybe next year cheers razor oh okay so I replied I
00:35:53
waited a day thanks for the reply raiser respect that rule brother I'll message you on January
00:35:58
1. yeah um no doubt you get a [ __ ] ton of requests to do these things if it makes
00:36:03
any difference my focus would be a more in-depth conversation about you and what
00:36:07
makes you tick we could even avoid any clickbait about All Blacks coaching stuff entirely but I'll leave it I'll
00:36:12
leave you alone for now all the best and I hope to meet you sometime Dom and that was so that was August no reply
00:36:18
now remember he said one podcast a year so I wasn't too desperate I messaged him
00:36:23
on Thursday the 12th of January is a happy New Year mate I hope 23 is off to a great start just following up
00:36:30
on our text exchange from last August I've been absolute honored to um get you on the podcast this year I'm
00:36:36
getting in early to make sure I beat James Marshall to it haha James Marshall was one of Ray's assistant coaches at
00:36:43
the Crusaders he also does a great podcast called what a lead okay with rugby players so anyway that was uh
00:36:50
January no reply 23rd of February I'll send another one 21st of March sent him
00:36:55
another one jeez oh my God he hasn't blocked you by now um and he replied to that one on May 7.
00:37:06
um hey Dom I have banned myself from podcasts oh okay thanks for asking but anything I say is a headline at the
00:37:12
moment once I start the job let's see if we can do this and then he signed off
00:37:17
with the Razer Emoji oh yeah that's funny he's got a sense of humor he has a
00:37:22
very good City yeah so I get it I understand what he's saying yeah it would suck in his position sure
00:37:30
and even though you say you know you won't do click baby stuff journalists will try and find something yeah so I I
00:37:37
understand that but it would be cool if he'd just you know he'd give you come on razor come on
00:37:47
razor it's not responding to my taxi certainly not watching this um now it'd be great though he's just a
00:37:54
fascinating guy and I I um I don't know if he'd know the answer to this but I
00:37:58
can't help but think um that tid lasso or Jason Sudeikis um like got the inspiration for Ted's
00:38:05
dancing moves off razor I can't even think they'd all wondered who really
00:38:09
knows the answer to that unless you ask Jason Sudeikis yeah or razor maybe raisin knows or his was given heads up
00:38:15
or has been told no I don't know he wouldn't know ring up and go oh hey mate we're
00:38:21
inspired by you doing your break dancing at the end of every game we're gonna
00:38:24
start this TV No One's Gonna Do That No One's Gonna Give the credit to someone
00:38:27
else yeah if they see someone from New Zealand people in America or England and doing something
00:38:36
just a little love New Zealand copy them no one will know well I suppose yeah there's no need to tell anyone but yeah
00:38:42
yeah um oh let me see has anyone said oh I was going to say has anyone said no to you
00:38:48
this is these are fan questions um this uh there's been a few actually um and I I understand that
00:38:57
um like the difference between you and I did radio for the same length of time about 30 years and every
00:39:04
interview you're doing radios kind of transactional love it like you had Paul
00:39:07
Henry on your show yesterday he's promoting a new show generally any guest you have and has got something about
00:39:13
promoting an agenda yeah yeah so this this kind of know agenda it's just a conversation and
00:39:19
um it does get quite personal so I can understand that a lot of people would be reluctant to go on I did um I messaged
00:39:25
someone the other day who I thought I thought it should be a great guest and she replied to me and it
00:39:30
um let me find this but karonga okay yeah I thought she's doing a little tour at the moment or she has been I
00:39:38
thought I thought it should be amazing like she's because we we had a a bit weird to the edge once for us do you
00:39:43
remember were you there that day she came in for an interview and she like um it was um it was a it was a crap
00:39:50
interview like she she she looked down she didn't make any eye contact she was
00:39:54
sort of optimized it was was that her first interview with us no no no no interview what's wrong with her yes when
00:40:02
the edge was in Hamilton she came out with um drive and Sway and she was young and she was like like vibrant and
00:40:09
enthusiastic thing yeah we had around like five or six years later and she she was just staring at the ground the whole
00:40:14
time and was really sort of flat and I remember at the time like from a selfish perspective thinking oh that was a
00:40:19
[ __ ] interview um and I look back now and it's like I just want to know what she had going
00:40:24
on like she was obviously stressed or fatigued or depressed sick of being dragged around the interview Circuit by
00:40:30
a record company manager musicians get worked hard they do um and maybe maybe it wasn't necessarily
00:40:40
the music she wanted to be doing or maybe she's getting people telling her anyway she replied to me um saying hey
00:40:46
Dom thanks you know you know I heard your guy on Eastern interview and I thought it was excellent I really
00:40:51
enjoyed it you know I'm not a runner though haha yeah yeah um but I should be can I just say maybe
00:40:59
one day to the podcast I'm so over talking about myself because we just did a press tour campaign and I just
00:41:05
couldn't do any more like really bored of myself promoting thanks for asking
00:41:11
though maybe when I have something new out is that okay oh she's so sweet I get
00:41:15
that too um it was nice actually listened to one of your podcasts yeah they didn't feel
00:41:20
compelled to go back to listen to anymore no no no big time commitment yeah for sure
00:41:27
oh I hope she's okay um all right what else someone wants to know how much research you do and for
00:41:36
each guest and do you have any help with that no no um I think even if um even when I get to
00:41:44
the I have this vision in mind of where I want the podcast to get to but even when it gets to that stage I think I'd
00:41:49
still do the research myself I'll just go for a run and I'll um search the podcast apps to see if
00:41:55
that person's done any previous podcasts and listen to that and do some research
00:41:59
online so I researched really hard but I I find it sort of um like a balance I don't want to over research and that's
00:42:07
not a laziness thing yeah it's just because I want to go in with with notes to make sure I don't miss anything but I
00:42:13
also want to have like an era of curiosity as well yeah and you want yeah and tell you something that you
00:42:19
didn't know yeah that's I mean yeah if you ask a question and you already know
00:42:24
the answer to it or it's kind of like you're going in with an agenda you know what I mean and I I prefer to
00:42:30
go in with sort of an open mind and curiosity fan question how much editing do you do
00:42:35
on an episode um oh very little actually yeah yeah actually the podcast that you and I did
00:42:43
I I um I didn't edit that at all and I haven't even gone back to listen to it I
00:42:48
started to listen to it and edit it but it was just too hard yeah you should have edited a lot
00:42:52
[Laughter] um yeah no but yeah very little to be honest I um I listened back to edit and
00:43:00
I just get annoyed with my own voice I I know that I start out and I know that I
00:43:04
stamma oh so some of the best broadcasters do yeah well Holmes used to stutter and
00:43:10
stammer all the time no no no no no no no you know and and Duncan Garner yeah some of the best broadcasters
00:43:19
because you'll think you're so smart you're thinking you're thinking you're
00:43:21
thinking you talk you talk even me I'm stuttering and stammering right now you know what it's like though
00:43:28
people people think that if you're on radio or you're doing a podcast you're
00:43:31
like the sound of your own voice I don't think anyone really likes the sound of
00:43:33
their own voice definitely not people hate the sound of their own voice um or there are some people who do the
00:43:39
people that talk like this they love the sound of their own voice because no one
00:43:42
is actually born to talk like that um all right some of these questions are repeated so let me think what is
00:43:51
oh here we go here we go Winnie interviewing Mike puto oh JJ Mike and Tom days whenever yeah whenever he
00:44:01
whenever he's ready and wants to have you asked him I missed him a couple of
00:44:04
weeks ago because I had someone that pulled up that pulled out at the last minute so I had um Jack around here
00:44:08
ready to go so I was like Mike come over but he was just on his way to go to TV3
00:44:12
to do the weather or something oh okay um yeah yeah it's funny after we did our
00:44:16
interview the other week um we talked about Mike and that because it's um for anyone that doesn't know the
00:44:22
three of us work together on the edge for a number of years it was the JJ Mike and Dom show and you you kind of don't
00:44:29
realize it at the time but you look back and you go holy [ __ ] that was successful
00:44:32
and that was the that was the most successful period for the radio station The Edge I think but when you're going
00:44:37
through it you don't you get told by management that you [ __ ] all the time
00:44:40
yeah do better do better do better you don't you don't realize what an impact
00:44:44
you're having on people bully their whole lives by management but we talked about Mike and that interview another
00:44:51
co-host we didn't mention was Clint Randall who's still at the edge now yeah
00:44:53
a couple has been messaged to me why didn't you talk about Clem and I thought
00:44:57
oh there's no beef Theory or anything like me and Clint are still really good
00:45:00
yeah it's amazing yeah he's a good dude but um like from the perspective of your
00:45:05
career like you and Mike and I worked together for maybe a dozen years you worked with um Randall he was done for
00:45:11
like two years mate yeah not very long so I didn't feel worth occupying too much of the podcast space with you on
00:45:17
that no but I mean I love Randall Clint as he's gone back to his first name now
00:45:22
he's allowed to yeah he was so he was so dark about me called Randy like it was
00:45:26
it was really weird though this is another weird radio thing so we had a guy called Clint Roberts that was
00:45:31
working the afternoon show at the edge at the time and radio management I think listeners are
00:45:37
so stupid that their head would explode if there were two clints on the same radio station at different times yeah
00:45:44
Randall had to be called by his last name but Clint Randall is one of the nicest guys
00:45:50
he is very talented and he is so good looking like it's he's ridiculously good
00:45:55
looking and it's very hard to work opposite Hermann concentrate every day so we had this um relationship with Mike
00:46:13
and yeah I suppose every radio breakfast show Dynamic is Works differently and we
00:46:18
were good in Silence the three of us so when the songs were playing I'd be on my
00:46:22
phone you'd be doing whatever you're doing Mike would always be doing secret
00:46:25
stuff on grinder no it'd be looking at real estate quite a lot and I'd be like oh what are you
00:46:31
what are you doing you're looking at buying a new house and how just minimize
00:46:34
the screen and say never you mind like everything was super secretive with Mike and then um so then then Mike moved on
00:46:41
and um Randall took over and do you remember like he just talks non-stop so when the songs are on he just chats
00:46:49
commentates live commentates everything do you remember that wonder that you told him off
00:46:54
hello you said something like um I can't imagine doing it because I can't
00:47:02
bear it was like you broke his heart oh you're like hey Randall I don't mean to
00:47:06
be rude but can you please just shut up for a few minutes he's like child you know you've got a
00:47:13
child yes it's incredible when you're in that five and six year old and they're
00:47:16
always asking questions and you just like okay hon just give me a minute but why am I but why Randall was a bit like
00:47:23
that Randall I love you so much but you do talk a lot okay anyway next one someone wants to know do you get paid
00:47:29
when someone listens to the podcast if not I feel like you should be getting something out of what you're doing is
00:47:35
you put a lot into it it seems only for you to get some money for what you do do
00:47:38
you get paid when someone listens to the podcast well that's um that's a very
00:47:42
interesting question so um you have like what's called a podcast host so I'm with um a company called a
00:47:49
cast and they have sales reps that sell some ads so sometimes you might hear an ad in the beginning of the podcast the
00:47:56
middle of the podcast or the end of the podcast and you get paid for that now if
00:48:01
you're Joe Rogan and you have 11 million listeners a week you can make he probably makes a couple hundred thousand
00:48:06
dollars per episode wow crazy money um if you're a popular podcast in New Zealand
00:48:12
um will you do my invoices what do I make 300 bucks a week from acast oh no not that much oh you might make about
00:48:19
250 bucks a week yeah yeah you can't live on that no you can't I mean it
00:48:24
sounds like oh okay but you can't live on that no um it's definitely yeah I
00:48:29
mean I've got mouths to feed now yeah yeah but Jack Marcus and sharks yeah um so I think the way to do it in a
00:48:36
small country like New Zealand is to get good sponsors on board that believe in the content you're doing like Radix have
00:48:42
been yeah um so there's your answer so everyone who listens to the podcast you don't pay
00:48:48
anything it's free content for you well JJ you've even said to me over the past
00:48:52
year like why don't you get a paywall or want to subscribe or subscribe but I
00:48:57
don't know I feel like the numbers are just like new zealanders are tight so if
00:49:00
you say to someone yeah five bucks a week it's less than a cup of coffee the
00:49:04
numbers are just drop off considerably and I I really believe um there's some value in the
00:49:10
conversations I'm having with some really inspiring new zealanders and people can listen to them and go oh [ __ ]
00:49:15
well oh Hannah Wilkinson's got [ __ ] going on she's the biggest one she's
00:49:20
amazing it was such a good podcast yeah and this week Maya Wilson from the silver Fields the silver thing gold
00:49:26
shade I've seen her um Snippets that you put on you yeah she looks like a real
00:49:30
crack up too really you see these people and you see that they've got [ __ ] going on and it just
00:49:37
makes you feel normal so I wouldn't want to restrict that by putting like a barrier in place for people that can't
00:49:42
afford it or don't want to pay for it yeah Dom you've had a million downloads
00:49:48
of your podcast I've just thrown away my clipboard because I'm out of a pre-organized questions
00:49:55
um two from here like what do you what do you see happening what's you know Envision the next five years for example
00:50:03
will you still be doing the podcast will you be maybe perhaps doing something else will you get back into radio will
00:50:10
you write more books like what where's Dom Harvey going well one thing I've learned since during
00:50:16
the podcast is um you can always predict where it's gonna where it's gonna end up
00:50:20
there's a quote I really like it was from um I think it was from Steve Jobs the Apple guy and he said something like
00:50:26
people people overestimate what they can do in one year and underestimate how much they can do in five years so I'm
00:50:32
only one year into the junior now it's probably going well no it is going it is going better
00:50:37
than what I anticipated in terms of the sponsorship in terms of the downloads in
00:50:41
terms of the feedback in terms of the quality of guests in terms of everything so I I just want to keep going and I'm
00:50:49
not quite sure exactly where it's going to lead um but I feel like it's leading like I
00:50:52
had um for example I had um Miyamoto on a couple of months ago who's a world
00:50:57
champion boxer yeah and a hell of a backstory like a harrowing backstory just you're married at a young age
00:51:03
because she thought that's what she had to do because she was religious and then
00:51:06
it was the relationship was you're incredibly violent and abusive and as a result of that podcast we're now doing
00:51:15
some public speaking together so she's she's not um confident enough just yet she will be
00:51:21
there in time at doing like keynote speaks or speaking about yourself so they want it to be a situation like this
00:51:26
where we're on stage well you're prompting her yeah so I guide the conversation yeah and I if you said a
00:51:31
year ago that that could be a thing I didn't you know I wouldn't have seen a
00:51:35
path so the podcast is opening up some other different doors so I really don't know
00:51:40
but I'm really enjoying what I'm doing um I feel like it's only going to grow
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and get better and um yeah I don't know I I'd love to do a book that was an easy book so I was
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thinking like lessons from Legends where I just get like transcripts of some of the podcast and well I think that would
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be good yes I don't actually have to be interested in Reading because not everyone's going to hear the podcast
00:52:03
yeah you know so um having be able to flick through and pick the legend you want to read about and stuff I think
00:52:09
that's a good idea Don because I've done I've done three books which are just
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shitty stories from my own experiences yeah it'd be nice to have like a like a
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beautiful like coffee table book um honoring these people that have given their time and been oh you'd have to
00:52:22
bother them again for better photos I don't think people would mind if they if they were going to get like a
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beautiful portrait photo taken and it's going to be in this handsome book well
00:52:34
you're really saying your ideas out loud here let's hope no one else steals it
00:52:37
manifesting well hey one thing I've learned from um other people that have helped me on the way
00:52:42
um between two beers who we talked about before James Marshall with his water lad
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podcast um Carl Thompson our old producer who does a podcast called married divorce
00:52:52
and dating um sharing is sharing is better right like there's another quote I really like it's
00:52:58
like don't make the walls of your house bigger make the dining room bigger okay what it means is like don't shut
00:53:04
people out have more people in um that's cool yeah it's a different way of looking at things but I like it
00:53:09
honestly Carl who I mentioned before our old producer um you you like you know me better than
00:53:16
most people I'm pointing right now to a printer in the corner of the room you
00:53:21
come around to change the cartridges um if it says the paper Gates not shut properly you come around to fix that I'm
00:53:28
hopeless with technology this podcast would not have been um possible in the beginning without Cal
00:53:33
he told me the equipment he told me exactly what equipment to buy he loaned me some equipment to have a play around
00:53:39
with he showed me how to work he basically wrote a podcast for dummies list that's awesome by the way I've
00:53:46
ordered you a new printer and I got a notification saying it's on its way okay
00:53:51
so I'm gonna get one with the it's an Eco tank so you just fill it up you
00:53:56
can't stuff that up surely I can I'll come around and install it you know when
00:54:01
I when I when uh when there's things that I can't do like at the moment I'm
00:54:05
I'm trying to set up like a business us Google Drive so all the videos from all
00:54:08
the podcasts go into this and I I don't know how to do it I need other people to
00:54:13
help me and it makes me feel so shut because my brain just doesn't my brain just doesn't work that way I feel sad
00:54:19
that neither me nor your girlfriend Asha are here to help you do that Ash I'll
00:54:24
help him out when I go these things you know I had um I'll restart Harvey's
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another gifts I had on the podcast and he came sadly there's no video of him
00:54:31
either because he came on last year it was very very gracious of him he's a big
00:54:34
star and he came on yeah we're still growing it was really cool and he said something
00:54:41
um he's he's on the Spectrum somewhere or he's got ADHD and he's he said the
00:54:46
way it looks for him is that he struggles with forms like filling in forms his wife has to do all the forms
00:54:51
and that resonated with me it's like a fun a fun thing informs for like a bank
00:54:55
line or something I you can do it seamlessly like a hot knife going through butter for me it's a struggle
00:55:01
yeah that might be the ADHD which I'm pretty sure you have but you know what
00:55:05
that's fine I know how you work if you've got forms to fill out I'll sort
00:55:10
it out and I'll put a little Post-it notes I'll come around and put you change your
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print to cartridges I'm still here for you I I appreciate that I've got so many people helping me
00:55:25
and I I feel sometimes I feel lazy I feel like I'm a piece of [ __ ] not lazy
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I'm not a piece of [ __ ] you've got to stop this negative self-talk Dom you are
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way you're a much better person than you give yourself credit for no but when
00:55:38
there's simple things that most people can do and but you can do things that
00:55:43
other people can't do I know and I'm sure there's other other people that
00:55:46
haven't been diagnosed but they think they might be on the Spectrum somewhere
00:55:49
or they might have ADHD they feel exactly the same way but these things that everyone can do and you just can't
00:55:55
and you think what the [ __ ] is wrong with me there's nothing wrong with you
00:55:58
you just think differently but you offer so much more that other people can't
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offer so just embrace your uniqueness Embrace who you are and what you can do and don't worry about the stuff you
00:56:11
can't because as you've learned you just get other people to do it for you and
00:56:15
you're doing pretty well at that and Dom you're all awesome and then I'm going to wrap up this
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podcast now thanks for listening that was Dom Harvey being interviewed on his own podcast Runners only
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I'm JJ Feeney good night good morning good afternoon whenever you're listening
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to this do I not even get the last word oh okay sorry okay off you go well no you've kind of ruined it there
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oh this is fast paced slow and steady anyway you coming just wanna connect for everyone
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