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This is going to be a great podcast. I
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can tell just from this this opening 5
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minutes because there's two very
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distinct chapters to your life. There's
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the
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the the drug dealer and then the
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incarceration period and then there's
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the the huge period of like 30 years
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where you were working at the University
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of Canterbury and you were like the
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go-to criminologist. Every time you turn
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on the TV and there's a story about
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crime, you'd see your face on TV. So
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this is going to be good.
