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April 19, 2026 / 01:00

This episode discusses the challenges faced by women in leadership roles, particularly regarding family and career choices. The conversation features reflections on societal expectations and personal experiences.

The guest shares her journey from being an ordinary civilian to becoming a prominent figure at the age of 37, paralleling her experiences with those of New Zealand's former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, who faced similar questions about motherhood.

Key discussions include the pressures on women to choose between career and family, with references to notable figures like Sylvia Carter and Helen Clark, who also did not have children.

The guest emphasizes the progress made in corporate environments for women, contrasting her experiences with the current landscape.

TL;DR

The episode highlights women's challenges in leadership and societal expectations regarding family and career choices.

Episode

1:00
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You go from being basically just a
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regular civilian to being a household
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name overnight.
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>> That is what happened.
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>> It must have been wild.
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>> Well, it was wild. It was like mic drop
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moment. Say what? A young woman? Say
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what? And of course, I was 37. Guess who
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else was 37? She became prime minister.
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And I was asked in my press conference,
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are you going to have children? Now, I
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knew I wasn't I wasn't going to, but I
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don't think I said that. So, isn't it
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interesting that I don't know how many
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years later, 20 years later, Justinda
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becomes prime minister, and she gets
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asked the same question. So nothing so
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much had changed, but nothing had
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changed.
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>> I knew at 16 that [music] I didn't have
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the energy to do everything I wanted in
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my life and have children, but that's
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got much better. I wouldn't want to
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anyone listening to think that's such so
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much of a problem now. [music]
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Corporates are much better. But in my
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day, you had to be able to do this, go
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there, do that. You had you could be a
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woman, but you sort of had to all sense
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of purpose sort of had to be available
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like a man was.
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>> So it was sort of one or the other
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really. You had to pick.
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>> Well, I mean, Sylvia Carter didn't have
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kids. Helen Clark didn't have kids. I
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mean just have a look at the women from
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that era.

Episode Highlights

  • From Civilian to Household Name
    A young woman becomes a household name overnight, changing the narrative.
    “That is what happened.”
    @ 00m 04s
    April 19, 2026
  • The Same Question
    Years later, Justinda faces the same question about children that I did.
    “So nothing so much had changed, but nothing had changed.”
    @ 00m 28s
    April 19, 2026
  • Women in Leadership
    Reflecting on women leaders who chose careers over motherhood.
    “Sylvia Carter didn’t have kids. Helen Clark didn’t have kids.”
    @ 00m 51s
    April 19, 2026

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

  • Overnight Fame00:03
  • Wild Experience00:06
  • Generational Questions00:22
  • Career vs. Family00:49

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