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Peter Thiel on college: "far worse than I even thought ... a lot of the students got ripped off."

June 06, 2025 / 01:01

This episode discusses student debt, university accountability, and the impact of financial incentives on education. The conversation centers around the rising student debt crisis, which has escalated from 300 billion in 2000 to nearly two trillion today. The discussion highlights how many graduates still carry significant debt years after finishing their degrees.

The host addresses the frustration of parents whose children are quitting school for alternative paths, emphasizing the need for reform in the education system. The episode raises questions about who should be responsible for student debt forgiveness, suggesting that universities and bondholders should share the burden rather than placing it solely on taxpayers.

Key points include the long-term financial struggles of graduates and the lack of accountability among universities, which continue to raise tuition without incentive to change their practices.

TL;DR

The episode critiques rising student debt and calls for university accountability in debt forgiveness.

Video

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What have you learned getting people to
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quit school, giving them $100,000, and
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then how many parents call you and get
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really upset that their kids are
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quitting school? I think the
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universities are far worse than I even
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thought when I started this thing. You
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know, the student debt was 300 billion
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in 2000, it's uh it's basically uh close
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to two trillion at this point. And then
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if you look at it by cohort, if you
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graduated from college in 1997, 12 years
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later, people still had student debt,
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but most of the people had sort of paid
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it down. By 2009, the median person had
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more student debt 12 years later than
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they graduated with. I do think a lot of
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the students got ripped off. So, I think
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there should be some kind of broad um
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student debt forgiveness at this point
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who should pick up the 10. It's not just
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the taxpayers. It's the universities and
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it's the the the bond holders. The bond
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holders and and and the universities. If
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you just make it the taxpayers, then the
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universities can just charge more and
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more every no incentive to reform what
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whatsoever.

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Episode Highlights

  • The Student Debt Crisis
    Student debt has skyrocketed from $300 billion in 2000 to nearly $2 trillion today.
    “The student debt was 300 billion in 2000, it's close to two trillion now.”
    @ 00m 11s
    June 06, 2025
  • Rising Debt After Graduation
    Many graduates find themselves with more debt 12 years after graduation than when they started.
    “By 2009, the median person had more student debt 12 years later than they graduated with.”
    @ 00m 32s
    June 06, 2025
  • Call for Reform
    There's a pressing need for universities and bondholders to share the burden of student debt.
    “If you just make it the taxpayers, then the universities can just charge more and more.”
    @ 00m 55s
    June 06, 2025

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

  • Student Debt00:11
  • Debt Forgiveness00:38
  • Need for Reform00:55

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