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Chamath: Tesla and Google are best positioned to win AI because they are building the full-stack

June 24, 2025 / 01:05

This episode discusses the future of AI, focusing on Tesla and Google as the top contenders for the AI prize in five years. Key topics include Tesla's advancements in vision models and Google's Gemini family of models.

Shimoth argues that Tesla is leading the way due to its vertically integrated stack and the potential of its XAI and Dojo systems. He believes these technologies will enhance daily interactions with AI, including robots and robo-taxis.

Google is positioned as a strong second, with its Gemini models and exceptional TPU technology. Shimoth predicts that Google's advancements will significantly impact industries, particularly Hollywood.

TL;DR

Shimoth ranks Tesla and Google as top AI contenders for the next five years.

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the game here is who wins the AI prize
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five years from now shimoth who's your
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number one and number two tesla's one
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and Google's two and the reason is
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because they are the closest to having
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that vertically integrated stack that I
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spoke about i think that Tesla has the
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best vision models now with XAI they'll
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have one of the best LLMs and reasoning
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models and they'll be able to eventually
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stick that on Dojo and then all of that
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will be in all of the physical AI that
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you will interact with in your daily
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life whether it's a robot or whether
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it's a car or whether it's a robo taxi
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so that's number one and then number two
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for many of the same reasons I think
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Google because you'll have the Gemini
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family of models which just absolutely
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kickass like V3 which we haven't really
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spoke about is going to destroy
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Hollywood in the next year like
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Hollywood is done I think but they're
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landing model after model they have the
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TPU and the next generation TPU I think
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is exceptional they're baking quantum
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and then they have an entire funnel of
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billions of people that they can direct
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experiences to so Tesla 1 Google

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Key Moments

  • Tesla's Vision00:14
  • Google's Power00:38
  • Hollywood's Decline00:49

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