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The Vomit Test: Friedberg explains the trillions being stolen “legally” from federal spending

January 01, 2026 / 01:21

This episode discusses government fraud, focusing on estimates that 20% of federal spending may be fraudulent. The conversation highlights the potential for trillions of dollars in fraud across the economy, particularly through government agencies and checks.

The hosts mention Elon Musk's estimate and speculate on the implications of uncovering this fraud in 2026. They discuss the difficulty in differentiating between legal and illegal theft, citing examples like the Somali daycare fraud and the actions of Stacy Abrams.

The episode raises questions about the public's reaction to these issues, suggesting that many might feel sick at the thought of addressing such widespread fraud.

TL;DR

The episode examines potential government fraud, estimating trillions in taxpayer theft and questioning the legality of certain actions.

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My guess, tip of the iceberg, Elon's
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estimate was 20% of federal spending
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falls under this kind of fraud camp.
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Could be more. And then when you add in
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state and local spending and you start
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to do the accounting on all of this,
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we're probably talking about a sizable
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percentage of overall GDP that is
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effectively theft through government
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agencies or government checks being
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written. And I think that's going to be
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the great uncovering of 2026 is we're
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going to see on the order of trillions
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of dollars of
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>> trillions
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>> trillions of dollars of this sort of
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behavior happening across the economy.
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And I also think the other side nothing
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will happen and and I think nothing will
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happen because the cost is going to be
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so significant. It's almost like staring
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into the abyss. It's going to make
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people feel sick to try and address it.
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>> How do you differentiate between legal
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theft and illegal theft? Meaning I think
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what the Somali daycarees were doing was
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outright fraud and is illegal. But when
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Stacy Abrams creates a NGO in the final
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days of the Biden administration and
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that gets stuffed with $2 billion, I
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mean technically I guess that's legal,
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but it's clearly a different kind of
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theft and fraud.
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>> Would you throw up in your mouth when
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you heard the news? That's the that's
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the test. If you don't pass the common
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sense vomit in the mouth test, it
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doesn't matter whether it's legal or
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illegal. It's up and you'll realize that
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pretty quickly.

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Episode Highlights

  • The Great Uncovering of 2026
    We're likely to see trillions of dollars in government fraud revealed by 2026.
    “We're probably talking about a sizable percentage of overall GDP that is effectively theft.”
    @ 00m 23s
    January 01, 2026
  • Legal vs Illegal Theft
    The distinction between legal and illegal theft is becoming increasingly blurred.
    “It’s clearly a different kind of theft and fraud.”
    @ 01m 07s
    January 01, 2026

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

  • Government Fraud00:04
  • Trillions at Stake00:26
  • Abyss of Truth00:42
  • Vomit Test01:08

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