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July 02, 2021 / 10:00

This episode features a heated discussion about moderation styles, interruptions, and podcast dynamics among the hosts. Key topics include Eric Adams, podcast performance, and personal anecdotes.

Jason's moderation is criticized for being uneven, with David and Chamath expressing frustration over interruptions. David feels his points on Eric Adams are not given enough time, leading to a chaotic exchange about the flow of conversation.

The hosts debate the effectiveness of their podcast format, with Jason defending his role while David and others push back. They also touch on personal topics, including weight and health, adding a humorous layer to the discussion.

Throughout the episode, there are playful jabs and banter among the hosts, highlighting their dynamic and the challenges of maintaining a balanced conversation.

The episode concludes with a light-hearted tone, despite the earlier tensions, as the hosts reflect on their roles and the audience's expectations.

TL;DR

Hosts argue about moderation and interruptions while discussing Eric Adams and personal anecdotes.

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what do you guys think of yesterday's
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Allin episode I was just astonished to
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hear you guys fight about us for the
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first 15 minutes of the
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Pod and I haven't listened to the rest
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frankly wait a second I'll drop it at
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like
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midnight well since J Jason won't talk
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I'm gonna jump in I was super
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dissatisfied with Jason's performance as
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moderator with that last episode he's
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back to his old ways of Conant annoying
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interruptions but it's not done in an
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evenhanded way you know like I said
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Jason you missed it I'm going to repeat
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it Chamas gets to go on and on you know
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casually talking you know he's wearing
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his linen Italian shirt with no buttons
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and he's got all the time in the world
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to make his points and then I speak for
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like five seconds and I can't even I I
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said look I got three points to make
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about Eric Adams I couldn't even get
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through number two
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without you interrupting me and so then
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you know freeer complains that I'm like
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getting reduced to sound bite uh sound
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bites well the reason I I'm reduces
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[ __ ] sound bites is you won't let me
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talk so it's like I have to figure out
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what I'm gonna say in the shortest
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possible bursts just to like get my
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points in
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edgewise you
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know um and then by the way feel that
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way when you're when when you're
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speaking on the podcast when any of us
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are speaking on the podcast I personally
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also feel like there's like a bear trap
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and you're waiting for the bear trap to
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close it's Jason's mouth and it's about
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what the next thing's going to you know
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yeah I can see you you don't normally
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talk that fast in your life I can see
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you speeding up your word speed because
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you know you got this idiot moderator
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who's GNA cut you yeah makes me
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anxious why can't I monolog yeah guys go
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start your own [ __ ] podcast and be
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Soo there he
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is hey where the star we're the stars of
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the podcast you're just the moderator oh
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okay I'm just the moderator all right
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all right listen you you go and you guys
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start the 2 AI podcast and you moderate
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each other and you can just monologue
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you could just get
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GT what I started a whole podcasting app
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it's called call in yeah okay I am
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[ __ ] call it's crashed seven times on
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the first [ __ ] call who's coding this
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[ __ ] yeah well we're on test flight it's
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we're in beta it's called
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you're you
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talk listen I'm going to set up two GPT
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threes uh and I'm gonna have gonna name
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one David one and one David two and then
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I'm gonna have them talk to each other
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and then I'll make sure it doesn't
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interrupt each other and we'll see if it
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gets higher ratings than two of you guys
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complaining about me moderating I'm I am
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playing the role of the audience when I
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interrupt you it's because you're being
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fabulously boring or there's an
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opportunity to make a joke
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so does that mean those Isam I don't I
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don't agree with that I mean honestly I
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don't agree with that because because
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you're not even okay Dyan you're you're
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it's above your pay grade put yourself
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on mute please thank you take it easy
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Dylan we want you to CH pay grade is
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zero dollars by the
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way yeah zero dollars I think saaks is
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paying you uh through Bitcoin or
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ethereum or something he's G sending you
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do I know he's sending you Doge to
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influence your
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edits I'm I'm just trying to get to the
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bottom of why you don't respect Sax's
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points but chamath can can ramble on for
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hours on end wow I think sa you know
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actually I think uh
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chamath is falling behind and I think
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because of the my the is the all-in
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stats
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account is now resulting it's gotten
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inside shamat head that he's a ball hog
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and now he's just backed off 20% every
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episode so now it's in his head and this
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is also happening with the two David oh
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my God all in their own heads about was
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a total ball hog last episode I mean oh
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there it goes no it was true okay so the
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top issue on the Pod was Eric Adams you
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talk he talks like three times and then
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you guys move on without even giving me
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or freeberg the chance to Wi cuz we know
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your opinion your opinion is more cops
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more guns yeeha we get your opinion we
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know know it we don't have you know you
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moved on without even giving me a chance
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to weigh in how's that how's that good
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moderation how's that good moderation
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and by the way by the way hold on a
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second by the way the fact that Eric
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Adams won not you could not have
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predicted that you could not have
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predicted that nobody else in the Pod
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would have predicted it I predicted it
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because for six months I've been saying
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that's the number one political issue in
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America I deserved a Victory lap on that
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point you just move you just blew right
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past it without give me a chance to
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weigh in on my signature issue pump the
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brakes Tucker pump the brakes Tucker
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that's my signature issue why would you
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give me a chance to weigh in all right
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po okay okay Ringo we'll let you sing a
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song okay take it easy uh listen we're
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the number one Tech podcast when we drop
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an episode It's Working My moderation is
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working your contribution is where your
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moderation is spotty it's spotty oh okay
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H how much better than number one do you
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need us to be
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okay it's no I'm saying I'm saying that
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some episodes is good I'm saying some
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episodes is good I think the last
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episode sucked in terms of your
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moderation oh okay all right okay thanks
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coach the fact is by the way the reason
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why we need Henry belcaster is no from
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my standpoint Henry belcaster and Dylan
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are a necessity why because we can put
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together my takes editing out your
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interruptions so in other words we can
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reconstruct we can reconstruct what I
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wanted to
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say they do a repair job it's a repair
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job around your shitty moderation sex it
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is a little suspicious how many times
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you have to say my full
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name it's under the contract under the
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contract you have to say his full name
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full
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name all right listen if David I'm sorry
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that you're hurt that I interrupt you or
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make fun of you too much I just want to
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say you look great your plant diet is
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working and I am right now on a 14-hour
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fast and I look at that bacon I'm
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looking at the bacon and eggs and the
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toast my kids are having this morning
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and you know what I said I gotta I got
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to drop at least two pounds by the next
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all-in pod so it's working so
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congratulations I shamed you into just
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stoping well thank you and and by the
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way by the way I mean wait we this is
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another thing that didn't get we didn't
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really unpackaged this but you're 10
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pounds heavier than me are you not that
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came out
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I am I don't know why I look better I
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can't understand it either I look so
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much better you're half an inch shorter
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and 10 pounds heavier yet I still look
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better it's crazy that's a sound bite
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that's a sound bite you should turn into
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a little
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clip I only allows you to have high
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quality High Fidelity sound you could
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actually work with these
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clips J aren't you a big investor in
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this app I'm a minor investor I'm a
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minor investor but I'm happy to be along
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for the ride and I will will promote the
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[ __ ] out of this app once it's out there
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since Clubhouse blocked me from
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investing so anything to kill Clubhouse
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and helps speaking I'll do speaking of
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weight are any of you investors in this
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tonal machine thing I'm not but I own
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one and it's great it's great I love it
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I use I use it all the time hey we got
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to talk about this censorship because we
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made a clip for David Sachs all right
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all right Dylan Dylan Dylan Dylan once
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again Dylan when we want your opinion
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we're going to throw it to you mute
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yourself no you're not moderator here no
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gives [ __ ] about your opin Jason Jason
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what what's what's your height and
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weight I think we might have to have a a
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boxing match yes yes yes once again
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Dylan and Henry stay in your lane both
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of you put yourself on mute this is our
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episode then I'm gone bye guys nice
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seeing you mute yourself or else I leave
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okay
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three two it's a take over it's a
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takeover thank you thank you boys Jesus
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Christ now besties uh back to the topic
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at hand don't don't Empower these two
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guys too much okay Dylan Henry you do a
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great job but you're not besties you're
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not moderators you're not on the show
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okay you're The Wack Pack you're Talent
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J you're you're you're the whack pack
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you're 16 hours fast making you a little
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cranky [ __ ] Baba buoy over
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here High Pitch Eric
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brutal guys think they're running the
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show all of a sudden Jesus Christ this
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is what happens when you mention them by
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name at the top of the show listen guys
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collect all of the money from the other
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podcasters just double your fees every
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three months and ride on David's uh
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praising you and me praising you it's
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I'm we're happy to watch you price gouch
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the other
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podcast but they do good work I agree
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they do good work all right is there
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anything you want to talk about David
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other than criticizing my moderation
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which people love and we make people
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laugh if I didn't interrupt you and
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laugh there wouldn't be that tension on
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the show people are waiting for me to
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interrupt and make a joke sex I think I
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think there should be I think there
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should be a clock where I'm allowed a
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certain amount of time before you
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interrupt just give me just tell me what
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it is 30 seconds you know seven seconds
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yeah seven seconds 10 seconds just tell
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me what it is so I
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know yeah but I don't know when you're
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going to give me an opening to me

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This episode stands out for the following:

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Episode Highlights

  • Moderation Frustrations
    A heated discussion about the challenges of podcast moderation and interruptions.
    “I was super dissatisfied with Jason's performance as moderator.”
    @ 00m 21s
    July 02, 2021
  • Signature Issues
    A passionate plea for recognition of a key political issue.
    “I predicted it because for six months I've been saying that's the number one political issue in America.”
    @ 04m 49s
    July 02, 2021
  • The Wack Pack
    A humorous take on the roles of certain podcast participants.
    “You're not moderators, you're The Wack Pack!”
    @ 08m 39s
    July 02, 2021

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