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Why Apple Fell Off: They Lost Taste!

December 14, 2024 / 01:50

This episode discusses issues with Apple's iOS 18, user experience, and the role of taste in technology. The conversation highlights how the absence of key figures like Steve Jobs and Jony Ive has affected Apple's product quality.

The hosts express frustration over the performance of iPhones after the software upgrade, noting that the photos app and overall functionality have deteriorated. They question Apple's testing processes and the lack of a reliable taste standard in product development.

They compare Apple to other tech companies, suggesting that while data is important, it cannot replace the need for a strong sense of taste in design and user experience. The discussion touches on how companies like Facebook and Google manage user experience through data-driven approaches.

Overall, the episode critiques the current state of Apple's product development and raises concerns about the future of technology design without strong leadership and taste.

TL;DR

Hosts discuss iOS 18 issues and the decline of taste in tech design.

Episode

1:50
00:00:00
my iPhone does not work I'm sorry I'm
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just gonna say it okay I don't know what
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happened you upgraded your software it's
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what happened you're on iOS 18 it
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doesn't work the phone bricks constantly
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my photos app doesn't work it is just
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really bad and I think for a company of
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this scale I don't understand how it
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does not go through a more complicated
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test harness that catches all of this
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there's no Arbiter of taste anymore who
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is the back stop so I think taste is
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great if you have it but there's only so
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many people on the planet that are going
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to have Cutting Edge taste taste and be
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right if you don't have taste what most
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tech companies do is they use data data
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is something that's approachable and
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leverageable because Apple has the anod
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using data to measure success with a
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user experience to measure whatever
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success if you subtract taste even by a
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bit you don't have the scaffolding that
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every other company would use and so you
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see the worst of Both Worlds that's a
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great take you go off the rails you
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think that what happened is like when
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Steve Jobs isn't there and Johnny IV
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isn't there there's still a bunch of
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folks that probably think they have
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taste but the real taste folks left and
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there's really no scaffolding left the
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scaffolding you had at Facebook meta
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obviously or the Google uses would catch
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some of the stuff without a doubt like
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no doubt about it you know that users
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are less thrilled and they use things
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less and you'd fix it and maybe even you
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take that too to extreme you never
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develop taste like I could argue that
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about Google or meta they don't really
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have taste if you don't have that back
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stop if the taste subtracts even 10% not
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all the way down you're just not going
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to catch this stuff and I think there's
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only like how many people in the world
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really have Cutting Edge technology user
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experience taste I don't know too many I
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would fund them right away Brian chesky
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might have it if I'm being really
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insecure I would want to say oh yeah no
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we had a lot of taste at Facebook back
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in the day but actually we had so much
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scaffolding around data probably because
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intuitively we knew that that was way
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more reliable for us

Episode Highlights

  • The Taste Crisis at Tech Companies
    Without a strong sense of taste, tech companies struggle to catch user experience issues.
    “If you don't have taste, you're just not going to catch this stuff.”
    @ 01m 22s
    December 14, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • There's no Arbiter of taste anymore.
    Why Apple Fell Off: They Lost Taste!
  • If you don't have taste, you're just not going to catch this stuff.
    Why Apple Fell Off: They Lost Taste!

Key Moments

  • Software Upgrade Woes00:04
  • Taste and Technology00:19
  • Lack of Scaffolding01:05

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