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There's a lot that's said about Palunteer enabling a surveillance state.
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I just want to give you a chance to respond to that. >> We don't collect data. We don't have any
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data. It'd be like it'd be like accusing Excel of being a surveillance tool,
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right? It's like this is a way of bringing your your own data that you have lawful authorities to collect
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together to make decisions. Sounds a lot like Excel, you know, because we are unabashedly patriotic and serve the US
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military. I think people have a kind of colored view of these things. I would argue that it's actually Excel with cell
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by cell. You know, it' be as Karp says, it's the most insane platform in the world to try
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to do something illegal in because you are going to be caught. That was part of the idea of how do you enhance privacy
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and security? It's how do you build more civil liberties protections in how do
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you have a normative view that enables a democracy to say these are laws and rules. The system will enforce it. We're
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not just relying on people happening to do the correct thing. I think at the limit it's actually kind of indefensible
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to have a perspective other than lawful use because if you are salami slicing the policy that's actually tyranny by
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techb bro. You know, a small number of people are constraining the maneuver space of a democracy with no
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accountability to the populace.