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Chamath: "Nvidia is not doing what's in the best interest of the United States." πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡¨πŸ‡³

April 20, 2025 / 01:54

This episode discusses Nvidia's revenue distribution, focusing on the 47% that goes to China and related countries. The conversation highlights concerns about AI capabilities and the implications of Nvidia's actions for the United States.

The speaker raises questions about the apps that utilize Nvidia's AI power in Asian countries, suggesting that advancements in AI from companies like Alibaba and Deep Seek are closely tied to Nvidia's technology. The discussion critiques Nvidia for allegedly prioritizing profits over national interests.

Specific mention is made of Nvidia's H20 product, which was designed for compliance with US rules while still benefiting Chinese companies. The speaker emphasizes the need for the United States to have better oversight of these transactions.

TLDR

Nvidia's revenue to China raises concerns about AI competition and national interests.

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I think we can all do the math. About 47% of all of Nvidia's revenue goes to China and Chinese related countries. And
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I think when you peel back this onion, what you will find is a whole raft of companies that were stood up to buy
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these Nvidia GPUs to essentially act as a way station for China. And I think that is the big problem. Let's have a
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thought starter. If 47% of all of the AI capability and horsepower is being shipped to three Asian countries, where
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do you think the apps that require that amount of horsepower live? Is there a cursor of Bhutan that we did not know?
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Is there a great shopping app in Cambodia that's come out of nowhere that's AI powered? I think the answer is
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no. Every single time we have an advance in the United States, how is it that Alibaba shows up with something
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incredible, Deep Seek shows up with something better, at every turn and at every step of AI, they are at the same
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rate or one step ahead. To be honest with you, I think the real problem that we have is that Nvidia is not doing what
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is in the best interest of the United States. You have an American company that has been working around the
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guidelines at every turn to try to land silicon into the hands of China. Late last year, they introduced this thing
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called this H20 that was explicitly designed for China and to be compliant with US rules at the time, which again
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gives these guys substantial performance. This is a case where you have plausible deniability. I sell
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something to a Singaporean registered company. Plausible deniability. What am I supposed to do? You can't expect me to
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audit it. I think that's what Nvidia's answer will be to this question. But what is the real expectation? At a
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minimum, the United States should have a mechanism to understand it.

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Episode Highlights

  • Nvidia's Revenue and China
    47% of Nvidia's revenue is linked to China and related countries.
    β€œ47% of all of Nvidia's revenue goes to China and Chinese related countries.”
    @ 00m 02s
    April 20, 2025
  • AI Advancements and Competition
    Every time there's an AI advance in the U.S., Alibaba seems to match it.
    β€œEvery single time we have an advance in the United States, how is it that Alibaba shows up with something incredible?”
    @ 00m 49s
    April 20, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • Is there a great shopping app in Cambodia that's come out of nowhere?
    Chamath: "Nvidia is not doing what's in the best interest of the United States." πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡¨πŸ‡³

Key Moments

  • China's AI Dominance00:49
  • Nvidia's Dilemma01:02