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Here's the systemic problem with nonprofits and NOS's. Let me just contrast it with business. In business,
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you set up a company, the company has to make revenue, has to make profits, and if it doesn't, it's going to go out of
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business, right? Because it'll lose money. So, there's a feedback mechanism
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from the market. With an NGO, nonprofit, what have you, they raise money, they don't sell things, they fund raise from
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donors in order to engage in an activity. But what happens over time is the actual activities may stop
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mattering. And all that really matters is they're able to keep fundraising, right? Because they're just trying to
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figure out a justification to keep going back to donors to get more and more money out of them. That's what
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perpetuates the organization. >> Why wouldn't the Southern Poverty Law
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Center focus on Southern Poverty, which is an issue that actually still exists in some shape or form? Why do you call
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it one thing, focus on racism, and then all of a sudden whip up fake racism? >> Here's my theory on it. I do think that
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at one time in this country, civil rights was a noble cause, a very legitimate cause. We had the legacy of
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segregation and Jim Crow and there were groups that were set up to basically change that and they succeeded. But
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again, no one in an NGO or a nonprofit ever declares victory. >> Exactly. >> When Obama got elected in 2008,
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regardless of whether you liked Obama or not or agree with his politics, I thought that at that point most people
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could see that this was not a racist country. whatever else you could say, the fact that the highest office in the
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land was not denied to anybody showed that this country was not holding people back based on their skin color. And
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instead of just basically packing up shop and saying, "Okay, we've achieved
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our goal." The goalpost all got moved. Remember that's when the whole anti-racism thing started
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>> was around Obama's second term. If they just said at that time, you know what?
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We're going to move the goalpost from equality of opportunity to equality of
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results. we're going to basically make everyone equal at the finish line, which
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is to say identity socialism, people would have said, "Ah, no, we're not on
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board for that." So instead, they created this whole new terminology to justify it. And it's taken us years to
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unpack that and realize what's really going