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All right, everybody. Welcome back to part two of the All-In podcast, episode 263. We promised you a part two because
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we are very lucky that my dear friend Shvvin Pishavar was able to set up a very important historic interview for us
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today. None other than Prince Resa Pavi is here and we have a limited amount of time with you uh Reza. And uh may I call
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you Resa or should I call you Prince Resa? >> Sorry. Thank you. >> Uh,
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>> thank you for having me on your program. >> It It's great to have you and this is a
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moment I think you've been waiting 47 close to 50 years for which is we are at
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this moment in time looking at potentially the people of Iran being free. You left the country and when you
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were 17 years old to become a pilot and now you are looking to help your people with a transition post this military
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activity this operation essentially a war that's going on right now that we all hope gets resolved
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quickly. I think people would love to know what is your vision for Iran post this uh
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military action. >> Well, thank you again for the opportunity. Before I get into that, I
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wanted to simply uh stress the importance of this intervention that to us was like a rescue mission. It was
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literally an a humanitarian intervention to protect more lives that would otherwise be lost under this extremely
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brutal and repressive regime that as you know has massacred as of late uh tens of
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thousands of innocent and unarmed citizens in order to equalize the playing field. This was a much needed uh
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intervention that a lot of Iranians asked for and fortunately it did happen. But what's the next step? Where are we
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headed to? The most obvious question will be once the regime collapses how do we manage the transition. I've stepped
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in to lead this transition with the help of many of my compatriots from various sectors. We believe that a stable
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transition will lead to a address the immediate needs of the country but then set the country on a path of
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redevelopment and reconstruction which is of course something that we were always hoping for that could not have
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happened under this corrupt mafiaike regime. Iran should have been had it not been for the revolution today's South
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Korea of the region. Instead, it has become the North Korea of the region. Why? Not because our people are not
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gifted or talented or capable, not because we lack uh natural resources. It's simply because of a corrupt bad
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management and a regime that basically took our country hostage, used it as a launching pad to export an ideology. And
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that's why we are here today. A different Iran, a democratic secular Iran will first and foremost bring about
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the opportunities to our nation. But it will open Iran for business again. Iran is one of the most untapped
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economic opportunities of the 21st century. And it could tremendously uh change the shape of our world in terms
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of what would be beneficial to the Iranian people of course but also from the vantage point of a country like the
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United States and billions of dollars that will be generated as a result of doing business in Iran. We figure about
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1 trillion in the first 10 years to the US market but also billions of dollars that will be invested into Iran and
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everything that we need to have done in order to rebuild our country. These are crazy opportunities that uh we can look
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forward to. And it all starts with uh moving towards this recovery and transition. And when your father was in
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charge, it was a monarchy turned into a dictatorship. And to be clear, the hope now is to evolve into a democracy with
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free elections for the people. Average age of people in Iran now early 30s, 31, 32 years old. What would that look like?
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what is a possible timeline and you are uh have said on other programs and on your YouTube channel which I suggest
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everybody go search for and follow right now because you're speaking directly to
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the people on X and on your YouTube channel. What is what is the condition on the ground from the people you're
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talking to? You said you've been talking to uh people in the military, civilians
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and other leadership. They're ready to move on. What's the timeline and what
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are they telling you is happening on the ground today as we sit here? >> Well, I think that now the playing field
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has been equalized, meaning that the people could finally, of course, awaiting the end of this campaign have a
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better opportunity to re-engage the streets and take over uh their homeland. uh of course part of the equation is how
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much implosion from within the regime and how much defections from the regime in the sense of joining with the people
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this time and not be an instrument that will halt the people's progress but instead help the people in that
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transition meaning uh whether people are in the military or security forces as well as the civilian bureaucracy unlike
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what happened after the fall of Saddam Hussein and debatification the scenario of change in Iran is totally different
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and let's not forget Iran is a multiple century old nation state. It's a country
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that is extremely unified and united for this common purpose. Under this tent, we
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have diverse uh groups that are joining in this national campaign. People who are on the right, the center, the left,
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monarchists, Republicans, ethnic groups, religious groups, every sector of society is engaged. I have had
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tremendous amount of support coming from inside Iran. We have the support of the
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uh intelligencia. We have the support of universities. We have the support of the
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working class. We have the support of uh the diaspora that can bring a lot to this equation. I think this is a good
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recipe that will allow us to manage this transition but set the country to clean
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up, be ready for business and create the opportunities that will finally impact first and foremost Iranians who have
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been starving as a result of this regime's corruption, but have a true opportunity to get back on track and
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improve their livelihood. And I think it's also good for those who partner with us in this process because there's
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a lot to be uh done that will be win-win as opposed to be lose-lose to the benefit of this corrupt regime. That has
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been the story of the past almost five decades. So the difference lies about this change and how crucial it is. And
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of course the reason we want to have a secular democracy, the final form to be determined by the people of Iran through
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pre-elections and a constitutional process. But most importantly is that under equality and the rule of law, all
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the opportunities that has been denied our nation as a result of his discrimination, as a result of uh pretty
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much disenfring the majority of Iranians, now it creates a true opportunity. And as I said earlier, I
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think Iranians are quite gifted. As much as it is attractive to uh an entrepreneurs in the outside world
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looking in, there are so many gifted and talented young Iranians who will have a
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fair chance this time, a true chance for being uh using all their creativity and
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genius uh to bring our country back online. This will be an excellent fantastic partnership that we're looking
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forward to. >> So you've spoken about wanting to be on the ground there. What conditions and
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what timeline do you have for yourself? And this seems like a a pretty high-risisk thing to do. It' be pretty
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brave of you to uh go to the country now. What conditions have to be met for you to
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go to Iran to go home for the first time in 47 years? And how close do you think
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we are to the people taking the streets now and for starting this transition? >> Well, to be honest with you, it's very
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difficult to put an exact timeline. uh factors that will expedite it is the level of separation from the regime, the
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level of defections, uh the strengthening of domestic organizations and structure, how can we partner with
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elements from within that are not joining this campaign. All of these are factors that will contribute to the
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rapidity of the of the transition. As far as myself being there, obviously there are security concerns to make sure
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that it's safe enough for me to go there. I'm no use to anyone if I'm dead.
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So obviously we have to keep that in mind but I would like to be able to be there as soon as possible. Uh to be able
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to help as much as I can in this process. Obviously being in a country is an advantage. It's hard to do things
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from far away. I had no choice to be living in exile because of the circumstances. But I think that the
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opportunity is presenting itself and um the the first opportunity that is created for me to safely return to Iran
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will obviously be there. Just this morning, Trump said there will be no deal in Iran until unconditional
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surrender uh is given by whatever is left of the government there. What do you think of that condition? Is that the
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right move? Do you agree with Trump's ultimatum? >> Well, let me look at it from the
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domestic prison. In order for a successful transition to occur, it has ultimately to be something that is
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legitimate in the eyes of the Iranian people. We haven't lost so many tens of
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thousands of lives just to settle for a continuity of the remnants of this regime. That will not fly. People will
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want to have a clean break. The alternative will be for all those who align with the secular democratic
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alternative. And there are some four core principles that who whoever adheres to to that including people who may
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today peel away from the regime um would be able to agree to work together on that platform. The first and foremost
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issue is of course Iran's uh territorial integrity. That's an issue that is very
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close to the hearts of millions of Iranians representing every aspect of our diversified uh country in terms of
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ethnicities, religions and what have you. But we find ourselves in this united uh uh cause under one flag and
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under one nation. The second element that is a prerequisite to democracy is a clear separation of religion from state.
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That's a critical element for a democracy to occur. Equality of all citizens under the law and the rule of
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law obviously is a critical aspect that guarantees all of the rights we're talking about. and the democratic
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process itself, meaning uh the fact that people can elect their representatives to go to this constitutional assembly to
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debate the issues of what the next system could look like and what it laws should be ratified by the people which
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would bring us to the election of the first parliament of this new democracy and of course the election of the first
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government of such democracy at which point the transitional government hands over power to the elected uh
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representative of the people in the future government. That's pretty much the the the the direction that we hope
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to manage this transition and I'm playing a role in bringing about this transition with a very well-crafted plan
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that is in detail explaining particularly focusing on the first 100 days. I created an organization called
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IP which which is Iran prosperity project but it first focus is the first 100 days. How we immediately stabilize
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the situation in Iran. How can we maximize the remaining elements that will join with us to be able to survive
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regime change and have a place in the future? These are the first components and then we move forward with the plan.
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Two quick questions. Under no circumstances, would that be a monarchy? Uh I think uh is a question everybody
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has for you because you're the prince. This is a democracy. We don't have
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princes in democracies. And then number two, what do you ideally see as your role in the transition? And then would
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you like to have the opportunity to run for president and to lead the country out of this horrific nightmare of 47
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years? >> My focus is on the process, not the outcome. And in as a neutral arbiter,
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I'm not taking sides with one form versus the other. That's for the people
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of Iran to choose. And I think the world has seen successful models in both a republican system and a monarchic
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system. examples uh a republic that you have like in India or like in Israel or in France or the United States are not
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exactly the same but that's under the republican structure. In terms of parliamentary monarchies we have the
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example of Japan, Sweden, Spain, other countries. So I don't think that necessarily you can equate democracy
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with one outcome in particular. It could be both models that people can emulate.
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So at the end of the day, you know, again, uh it's not for me to choose the outcome. I'm here to be a bridge towards
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that outcome. That's the function of a transitional leader, not to run for office or not to have an aim for
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personal uh position or power or authority, but to be the element that unites the country towards a common
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purpose and allow the nation to decide what is their preferred system. That's
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what elections and free elections should be all about. and the ballot box is the
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only means to measure uh people's uh opinion and the majority will decide on
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that and that's the process that I'm in business to bring about. What do you
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believe the people of Iran want and in that monarchy subset there are the Gulf monarchies uh the kingdom UAE Qatar they
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are obviously distinctly different than a parliamentary you know system. So I assume you
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wouldn't want to see that. What do you think the people of Iran will vote for?
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>> Well, just what you said. I mean, we a democratic system clearly uh outlines
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how it should be and and how it should not. Uh I mean, if you want to look at the closest monarchy to the United
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States, technically speaking, is Canada. And you know, if you want to look it that way, and I think Canadians are
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quite happy with a democracy that they enjoy. And again, we have very good models of republic. Case in point, the
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United States. At the end of the day, as I said, it's for the Iranian people to
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determine what would be in their best interest. Having looked this time, unlike what happened, by the way, 50
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years ago, nobody had a clear idea what Kmeni was suggesting in terms of this as
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they call it or the tutilage of the supreme leader. By the time he took over and power was established, it was too
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late. And since then, we've been hostages to this regime. This time, in full transparency, the Iranian people
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ought to have a clear idea of different models presented to them. And on that basis, having understood every aspect of
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what it could be, then they make their choice. This is a process that should be totally transparent with enough time for
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debating different ideas. And again, as I said, let the democratic process unfold and let the people vote in
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majority. What is their final uh choice? I'm not here to determine an outcome.
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Again, I stress my role here is to manage this transition and create an opportunity that people have been
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deprived of for half a century to finally have a say as to what they would like to have for themselves in terms of
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sovereignty and determining their own future democratically. Final question, and I'll get into a bunch of details
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with you, Shervin, uh, as to the plan, which I know you're helping construct,
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and I'm assuming you'll help execute on. Trump says he's going to pick the next
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leader. Trump says a lot of things. He says them sometimes in a provocative uh, way, but he said he's not sure how you
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would play within your own country. There's obviously people holding up your
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picture. There are people who are maybe vying uh to take control of this from the previous administration.
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Are you in touch with President Trump and what's your relationship with him today? What's your best
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plea to him or your argument to him to work with you? >> Look, uh there's nothing hidden in the
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agenda. Everything is transparent and I've been communicating with the administration by uh Steve Witkov who
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announced it publicly. That's was our channel to President Trump and of course
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on the other side in the legislation with members of Congress, senators and Congress people to understand a little
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bit from the American prism what it is that we are proposing here. I don't think that President Trump or any other
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leader in this world would presume that it is up to them to determine who should
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be the next leader in Iran. I'm sure as democracies they respect the right for
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people to make that choice and as western democracies it should be going without saying that they would believe
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that the the right to choose the future leaders is only up to the Iranian people. If the intention is to assist
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that process if the intent is to support the Iranian people in their democratic aspiration you provide them with the
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help but the choice should be theirs. That has been my position and I don't think there's a disagreement on that
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whether it is with President Trump or other world leaders that I've also talked to about this matter.
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>> As I let you go, what should the American people know about the spirit,
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the culture, and the people of Iran, including the people who fled in 1979 like you and your family?
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>> Well, I I know many Americans who have many Iranian friends. As a matter of
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fact, if you just look at the Iranian diaspora in the United States alone, you will see how much uh interaction there
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is between Iranians who are now Iranianameans, if you will, many of them, and the kind of relationship they
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have built with their American counterpart. Many people have uh connections via marriages. Many people
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have connections through business affiliations. Many people have worked with Iranians. Many of the high-tech
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companies including Silicon Valley employ so many Iranians or they are themselves entrepreneurs. This is the
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kind of potential and I'm sure Shervin will talk to you more about that. But
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this is the kind of connections there is. And for Americans that have traveled to Iran or have known Iranians all these
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years, they know what what what country it represents, what amount of culture, arts, um I mean civilization in a true
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sense Iranians represent and they've been completely suffocated under this regime. But once Iran is uh is uh you
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know free from its shackles uh I'm sure a lot of Americans know um what difference there is between an Iran that
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wants to be friends with America that is not the regime that has from its inception called death to America or
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death to Israel for instance >> but there are Iranians who actually love to America. Let me just give you a last
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parting thought because I think every now and then I need to remind your audience and other audiences. We talked
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about other countries in the region. Remember 911? >> Yes. >> And how many people on the streets of
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many of the so-called allies of the United States were celebrating that attack on that sinister day. The only
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country in the entire world in the entire region that actually stood in candlelight vigils in sympathy to the
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victims of the 911 terrorist attacks were no other than the Iranian people themselves holding candle light vigils
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in Iran. And they've been messaging America for years now. We are not your enemies. In fact, they've been chanting
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slogans in Iran saying they lie to us. It's America. Our enemy is right here.
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This is the Iran I'm talking about. This is the people I'm talking about and I
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know many Americans both in the civilian sector including military forces in America know that and I think that's
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something that I'm sure I'm not the only one uh you know talking about this. You
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will hear from other Iranians who will pretty much confirm what I just said. That's why this partnership is so vital
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for us because together we will be able to rebuild um uh you know a different world. Iran will bring an element of
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stability to the region and beyond and that can only play to the interest of America itself. We need to have this
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vital partnership and I think we'll be able to succeed because I see everybody
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now is very much committed to work together towards uh bringing this agenda forward. Well, we're we're all praying
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for the people of Iran to have a democracy and what an amazing moment it will be uh when you get to return in
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whatever capacity and help this transition and 93 million people who have been suffering will be living free
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in a democracy and the impact that could have on the world and obviously that region would be by far the largest
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democracy in in uh the Middle East. uh and and this could have ramifications in terms of humanity that would be
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absolutely stunning and beautiful and the prosperity would be amazing. The Iranian people I met in my life uh
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Prince when I was living in Los Angeles, all these great Persians I would meet uh
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were some of the most joyful and industrious beautiful individuals I've met. They remind me of my Greek and
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Irish heritage, including you, Shervin. So, Prince Resin, thank you so much for your time. I know you're extremely busy.
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It's very important for the all-in audience to hear from you uh and to understand what's going on in your
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vision and we would love to have you back when you're on the ground uh with your people and that your people are
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free. >> Thank you again. Looking forward to it. >> All right, Shervin. Thank you so much
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for setting this up. >> I ask for very few favors for my friends, but as a good friend, you made
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this happen for the all-in community. So, we I thank you for that. And uh as I as I said to to the prince, the people
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and and the Persians here in the United States, maybe you could tell us a little
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bit about your story and and what this means to you and then we can get into your involvement here and what you hope
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to see in those first 100 days. >> Of course. Uh first of all, Jason, thank
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you for opening up this tremendous platform to the Iranian people and to the prince. Uh as you can see, uh the
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crown prince Razip is a is a great man. uh the most courageous man that I've
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ever met. Uh and he's the highest integrity human I've I've met as well.
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Uh we're very blessed as a people to have a leader like him. Uh who has lived
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a very clean life uh and has uh stepped up in a very courageous way. has put it all on the line for his people and his
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legacy uh to play this tremendous transitional role to evolve the Iranian uh nation to a democracy. Um and this
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long nightmare of 47 years that all of my Iranian brothers and sisters have suffered through um uh is almost over.
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And uh also a tremendous gratitude to President Trump uh for his courageous leadership on this matter. Uh I don't
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think any other president uh would have the courage and the principle and the values to take on this Islamic regime of
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terror. As you saw last month, uh they massacred uh over 43,000 Iranians who were just peacefully protesting. They
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gunned them down with anti-material bullets. I I put a post of a Coca-Cola can next to these bullets. It was bigger
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than the can. Uh that's what >> and this is super important to to meditate on for a second here. This
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regime >> is a murderous and evil regime to turn those guns and mow down 40,000
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in over 40,000 individuals peacefully protesting is just an act of savagery and brutality that I think most people
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don't appreciate and uh or don't fully appreciate. Um and we there hasn't been
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enough coverage of that fact. >> No. >> And you are a bipartisan type person.
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and I've known you for many years. You were a super uh funer of uh Obama. He he
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wasn't able to get this done. Biden wasn't able to get this done. Bush wasn't able to get this done. This has
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been something that presidents have struggled with. And you got to give Trump credit here. There's a lot of
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debate over why this is happening. Is it Israel driving it? Is it the relationship with China? We talked about
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that in part one. At the end of the day, as a son of Iran, what matters is that the people are free. All these other
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conspiracy theories theories and motivations do not matter to you or the people. Yeah,
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>> absolutely not. I uh but one of my key principles is our our our sec our moral security precedes our
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physical security. So this has as much to do with American uh security as it does Iranians security and livelihood.
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As you saw, this regime is not only uh evil enough to mow down 43,000 innocent people in 48 hours. Their reaction to
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this liberation operation is to attack over 12 countries in the region. Imagine if they had a nuclear bomb, they would
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use it. >> They would use it. There's not even a doubt in my mind that they would have
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used it by now uh if they had it. Uh so this is uh incredibly important for America's national security. Um as uh
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the prince mentioned 9/11 uh happened. Uh that's the same kind of ideology except the problem we have in our modern
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time is that basically criminal and terrorist organizations have taken over sovereign nations with nuclear bombs or
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seeking nuclear bombs. Wherever you have Russia, uh China, uh you have you have North Korea and you have Iran. uh and
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then you had Venezuela. So the president has not only uh gotten rid of the Maduro
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in in Venezuela, he has now uh begun this process of dismantling this this Islamic regime who is absolutely uh not
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a legitimate government and not a legit legitimate u nation state. Uh and the only leader that uh is legitimate to
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lead us to a transition process to become a democracy is uh the crown prince resale. We are very lucky uh I
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think in our modern times to have three leaders who are living at the same time and leading at the same time as
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President Trump, President Netanyahu, um Prime Minister Netanyahu and and the Crown Prince Resali all at at in this
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one moment in time. I think we're living in biblical times when 107 happened. Um,
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I started the Israeli Iranian alliance with Michael Eisenberg, Michael Bhine, Jesse Matin, Sean Rad, uh, and we
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started to host these salons with the crown prince. One was in New York, Michael Eisenberg flew in, Dan Lo, lots
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of, uh, leaders came. Uh and that was the beginning of the process uh that was seated with a breakfast with Michael
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Eisenberg as a VC and the number one VC in Israel uh 15 years ago where we said we have to do more between Israeli and
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Jewish community and the Persian Iranian community and someday we're going to
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have uh tea in Thran. And we wrote an op-ed last year about this. And we began to build these bridges. Uh and this
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connection between the Jewish people and the Iranian people goes back 2500 years.
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Cyrus the Great, who's in the Bible, uh freed the Jews from uh slavery in Babylon, returned them to their homeland
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in Jerusalem, and rebuilt their temple. uh and that he is celebrated for that courageous act uh in the Bible and in in
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uh Jewish religious uh you know holidays and and it is a tremendous connection that goes back now 2500 years later in
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kind of biblical symmetry you have the Jewish people helping free Iranian people from their slavery and at the
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same time there is a connection between America's beginning that many people
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don't know is that Thomas Jefferson was uh a student of Cyrus the Great who declared the first declaration of human
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rights and a lot of the principles that went into the Declaration of Independence of America and the founding
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of America and the Bill of Rights and the Constitution have had its roots in Cyrus the Great and Persian history. And
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so this connection between America's founding and the principles that the Iranians uh espoused for 2500 years uh
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is this beautiful connection between the Jewish people, the American people and the Iranian people.
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>> And this could have such a tremendous impact on the region. You have essentially a lone democracy in Israel.
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Uh and now to have 93 million Iranians in a democracy, if if that can be achieved, and listen, there's a long way
00:28:47
to go. this could spiral out of control. This was a very high-risk move uh by Trump. President Trump should
00:28:55
give him a lot of credit for that, but he has to own this. So, let's be humble
00:28:59
and and we got to pray for the best here. Things can spiral out of control in these kind of situations. But let's
00:29:04
hope that we do get to democracy there. I'm curious, Shervin, you've spent a lot
00:29:09
of time in the Middle East. I have over the last 3 years gotten myself educated and caught up I hope and have started
00:29:14
doing business there and and really meeting a larger swath of people. The Gulf monarchies have modernized
00:29:20
incredibly starting with the UAE, Saudi uh now the kingdom and of course Qatar uh as well modernizing Oman, Kuwait.
00:29:30
What would Iran going straight to a democracy if that is even possible? What would that do to the region in your
00:29:38
mind? I think that uh everything it what what the Gulf countries have done uh is
00:29:44
a tremendous case study of what the potential for the Middle East truly is. Uh being blessed uh by God to have oil
00:29:53
gas the way that most GCC countries have and Iran uh so has uh gives them an advantage to be able to have the
00:30:02
resources independently to develop themselves. And when you look at what happened in UAE over the last 25 years,
00:30:07
I went to UAE in 2001 2002 and there was a smattering of buildings there. >> Yeah, I've seen the pictures of Dubai
00:30:15
then and now. >> It's extraordinary. It's incredible. And it it reminds me of what America was
00:30:22
like in the 1950s when they came from back from World War II. Eisenhower buil built the interstate highway system and
00:30:29
America developed into this superpower. Uh and and in many ways the GCC countries espouse that American
00:30:36
mentality of everything is possible. Anything is possible. And they've manifested their greatness. And you look
00:30:43
at Iran, you have 93 million unbelievably brilliant people who have been held back. You look at the Iranian
00:30:50
diaspora in America. just our fellow friends who many people know Dar Uber myself at Uber of course um Omid
00:31:01
Cordistani at Google and Ali at at data bricks um you know pier at eBay when you
00:31:08
add up the numbers it gets to trillions of dollars of value have been created by
00:31:13
this small population of Iranians in America and especially in Silicon Valley and I've been blessed to be part of that
00:31:18
circle and you know one thank God for America America that we had a a safe sanctuary to come and develop our
00:31:25
brilliance. But there are as many there's uh as many brilliant Iranians way more brilliant Iranian.
00:31:32
>> Yeah. On a numbers basis it's it's a magnitude more. >> And so this will be a free democratic
00:31:37
Iran will be the greatest peace dividend and economic dividend to be gifted to the world and to the region. So I think
00:31:44
what'll happen is um we will have an acceleration of the Middle East becoming
00:31:49
this uh unbelievable place where innovation and investment in the future is happening. We're at the
00:31:55
dawn of AGI and advanced super intelligence. We have quantum computing which you and I you know and Emil
00:32:02
Michael and others have done with our you know our our spa um and D-Wave. These these technologies are are going
00:32:11
to fast forward humanity and being able to tap into the resources of the Middle East and Iran in in human capital and in
00:32:21
the oil and gas wealth to be able to unleash an accelerated future is something that uh we all look forward
00:32:27
to. And one of the things the team uh the crown prince's vision uh this is a
00:32:33
175page report right here the Iran prosperity project and I'm blessed to be an adviser there with many other very
00:32:41
talented uh Iranians um and this piece by piece month by month uh has a sequence of of plans to rebuild Iran as
00:32:52
the crown prince was talking about so that when there is a free Iran there will be a a four-month process C to get
00:32:58
to a a referendum. Um, and then a six-month process to u assemble uh Iranians to to write a constitution. Uh
00:33:08
and then a 14-month process to actually finalize uh the the constitution and then have a vote on the constitution. So
00:33:16
you'll have a a sequence of events that will then lead to uh a legal framework
00:33:22
uh where uh the the the new Iran will be able to actually execute on this on this
00:33:29
tremendous plan uh and rebuild uh all aspects and all sectors of the economy. Uh and that'll lead to um you know uh
00:33:37
this new Iran that we're all have been dreaming and praying for. >> And and so this plan's been worked on
00:33:43
for some time. He seems like he's got, you know, a third or so of the constituents there who are in favor of
00:33:49
him. There are some people who are strongly opposed. Last time his father was not perfect.
00:33:55
He's answered many of the hard questions about his father's uh tenure. What are
00:33:59
the chances that the existing regime, what's left of it, there are people in
00:34:03
that who would collaborate on moving to a democracy where specifically religion and the government were separated. This
00:34:12
was something NBS was able to do in Saudi, but not without strong resistance and great risk to himself. This is a
00:34:21
high-risisk thing, you know, with some of these radicalized individuals who want religion to rule over democracy.
00:34:28
So, maybe you could unpack that a bit. >> Absolutely. The vast majority of
00:34:32
Iranians uh want a a separation of of uh church and state um of mosque and state.
00:34:40
uh and uh we've seen what 47 we've had an AB test uh in Silicon Valley speak of
00:34:47
what happens when you have a system that is controlled by mullas. Uh it has led to absolute disaster and mayhem and
00:34:54
evil. Um and uh so the vast majority are out there and they're saying Resa Palvy's name. If you look at the videos
00:35:02
from uh January, they're saying Javit Shaw, they're saying his name to return.
00:35:07
he called on them to come in the streets at 800 PM on the on the ETH and 9th. Uh
00:35:12
and they came out in droves and by the millions in response to him. So the idea that we don't know who the Iranian
00:35:20
people want uh to help lead this transition process, the proof is in the pudding. You just have to look at the
00:35:25
videos and look at the the actual facts. Uh and that's the he's the only leader
00:35:30
that uh Iranians are are by name calling out for to to come back and they're also
00:35:36
calling for for Trump and Netanyahu to please help save them from this uh you know terror uh regime and and as we've
00:35:44
seen in the last week their prayers have been answered uh in a tremendous way. And what is going to happen is basically
00:35:52
a dismantling and a defanging of this regime's capabilities to use terror to
00:35:57
use our military uh capabilities. Uh and we have to let the that run its course.
00:36:03
Uh as the president said, this is probably about 4 weeks of work. Um you know, there was a leak uh I think in the
00:36:11
Washington Post today that the 82nd Airborne was uh activated. Uh and that's
00:36:16
a signal uh that uh this is going to potentially um lead to even more support uh in this liberation operation to uh
00:36:26
completely dismantle this regime. Uh defections are a big part of the strategy that
00:36:32
>> have the defections started yet or is that too risky for the individuals on
00:36:35
the ground? What what what are you hearing through your back generals? Well, I I the the crown prince had a a a
00:36:41
a system for people to communicate securely with him and his team and over 50,000 people in the military um have
00:36:49
actually responded to that. Uh you saw some uh defections that were went viral uh during the protest and before the
00:36:56
protests of of different military members. We expect that that as the dismantling process continues and many
00:37:04
of the as you saw the the the the top leadership that the IRGC was eradicated in the first 24 hours. The the the the
00:37:13
supreme leader was just an absolutely evil man. Uh was gone in the first 60 seconds. He spent 47 years threatening
00:37:21
the world. He lasted 60 seconds. >> Yeah. >> And that's going to continue. Um and so
00:37:28
uh I think it's going to be a very rational thing for the rest of uh uh who remains to realize that if they don't
00:37:36
actually have a complete surrender and uh you know capitulate and for the ones that haven't actually uh executed the
00:37:45
orders of genocide against the Iranian people, there'll be an opportunity for
00:37:48
people to actually um be a part of the reformation and the reconstruction of Iran. Um the plan actually says uh even
00:37:57
people in the military will be able to one even have early retirement for the ones that didn't actually um execute uh
00:38:05
those uh you know uh acts of terror against the Iranian people. And then others who are talented and have the the
00:38:13
ability to to serve and want to serve, they'll also be able to show up at work
00:38:17
and continue to get paid and have some role uh wherever in the military and the government. So there's this isn't going
00:38:24
to be a hunting down of people. The hunting down is happening right now. There'll be a process of peace and
00:38:31
reconstruction um and rehabilitation. Uh that'll happen. And we're going to also need to
00:38:37
have a lot of like um you know specialists to come in and help people with the trauma that they've been
00:38:43
through. >> Sure. >> 47 years. Uh this is be a multiple multi-threaded
00:38:48
>> multigeneration trauma. Yeah. >> Multigenerational. Yes. Uh tell me about
00:38:53
uh the Kurd the Kurds being backed Msad and um the CIA are uh backing reportedly
00:39:01
militias in the west and that's going to play a role. Yeah, >> I think you know we we have to be very
00:39:08
very careful because uh a red line for the Iranian people is uh we have existed at a as a country for for 5,000 years as
00:39:17
a people for 5,000 years. Whoever invaders came in or out, we always outlasted our invaders. These these
00:39:23
people uh who have t had taken over for 47 years were occupiers. They weren't
00:39:28
really truly Iranians. They were occupiers of this country. Uh and they'll be booted just like Gjas Khan
00:39:34
and everyone else who who came into Iran were booted. Um and so uh it's very
00:39:40
important we if if if there's any kind of separatist movement, we will lose the
00:39:46
goodwill and the support of millions and millions of Iranians. Um and so >> it has to be one country.
00:39:52
>> It has to be one country. The territorial integrity of Iran must be protected. That's a red line for the
00:39:58
crown prince. It's a red line for the Iranian people. Um, and so that's that's
00:40:03
incredibly important uh to to uh project that wherever there's collaborations
00:40:09
that can happen uh to to be able to work together uh to fight uh for uh the deliberation to be completed and for a
00:40:19
march on to Tehran and the crown prince being able to come back to lead this transition and physically come back to
00:40:25
his homeland. Can you imagine that after 47 years of being away from his nation,
00:40:31
>> me uh being away from my >> You've never been able to go back or
00:40:34
have you snuck in? And >> I hadn't been back for you know I basically I was born in 1976.
00:40:41
My dad the the last Sha was sending a lot of the top brilliant people on scholarships around the world. Iranian
00:40:48
community in uh graduate school and universities was the largest population in 1970s. he was educating this whole um
00:40:55
class of people and we were going back to to rebuild and build Iran into this great nation. We're at the cusp of
00:41:02
greatness. So my father came to Washington DC uh where I am right now and uh I grew up here uh on 16th Street
00:41:10
in in in Washington uh and he got his master's degree at Catholic University
00:41:15
uh 1976 to 1978. Uh, and I remember when we first came, it was a bicesentennial of America now
00:41:24
50th anniversary. And so he returned, we returned to Iran 1978 um, right before the revolution. Really
00:41:32
bad timing. And my dad had been promoted to head of radio and television for the
00:41:36
Shaw. And uh, this all happened. The revolution happened, was coming back. And my dad made the courageous decision
00:41:45
to help uh the US embassy get radio communications devices to them, do foreign language broadcast to tell u
00:41:53
foreigners in Iran how to get out of the country. This was from the different embassies and
00:41:59
put my father Abraham on the execution list. So he went into hiding for 10 months. I didn't see my dad for 10
00:42:06
months. and uh in kind of a kismid moment as someone he helped get a job in radio and television came to my our home
00:42:14
and said to my mom I want to help and she didn't trust him and said I don't
00:42:18
know where he is but she checked with my dad and and they came back and my dad said no you can trust him and that guy
00:42:24
was the new head of security for the Meridabad airport in Thran and he personally met my father and I remember
00:42:32
this moment I woke up to my brother crying and my dad was at the door after 10 months to say goodbye cuz he didn't
00:42:38
know if he was going to survive. Uh and he went to the airport um met his friend
00:42:44
and he walked him onto the Air France flight and uh you know crying he he flew uh out uh and came to America and the
00:42:52
people he had helped helped him uh get his papers and everything in order and then we were stuck in Iran for two
00:42:59
years. Saddam invaded, bombs were falling on us every night and the signs were going off. So then we escaped with
00:43:06
my mom and my brother and sister. Came to America with $35. My dad was driving a taxi while getting his PhD. My dad a
00:43:14
>> great paradox. >> My mom was like, "Yeah, I did Uber." Actually Uber
00:43:20
that was one of the things in my first meeting with Jason with uh with Travis. I told him that story and I and I I know
00:43:26
that like growing up in a orange and black taxi cab in in in Washington DC helped me win the Uber deal against all
00:43:33
the greats in venture. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's all full circle. Only in
00:43:38
America would that be possible. You know, this the son of a taxi driver and a maid. Uh you know, coming to America
00:43:45
with nothing be able to have the blessing of the life that we've had. And I've never forgotten those roots. I've
00:43:52
tried to to serve America. Um and um I'm uh you know uh now now helping in any
00:44:01
way that I can to uh uh help the crown prince in this transition process for a free Iran and and rebuild Iran into
00:44:09
something great. So make >> what's extraordinary to me about the Iranian people is they have maintained
00:44:15
even under this oppression that spirit 47 years later. I I don't know if you've
00:44:21
ever seen the Anthony Bourdain >> Yeah. >> uh you know episode when he goes there.
00:44:26
Yeah. >> And it was always touched me. I don't know if this was like a decade ago when
00:44:29
he did it >> and he said, "I can't believe it. This these people are Americans. They're
00:44:33
they're eating Pizza Hut. They're listening to music. They're having some
00:44:35
beers on their back porch. They're dancing. They are on VPNs, you know, understanding culture and what's going
00:44:42
on around the world. even under the oppression, women, gays, uh, everybody in between, uh, they're suffering and
00:44:52
they're still have that joy of life that every Persian I've ever met will stay
00:44:58
with you like the Greeks or the Irish and they will close the restaurant. They will talk and the restaurant closes the
00:45:04
door, the owner of the restaurant sits down and you just talk for another hour. Some of the most beautiful people I've
00:45:09
ever met and uh, it's just I'm so glad that you are engaged in this. uh very
00:45:13
much appreciate you bringing the prince. Thank you Jason understand the soul of the Iranian and that is exact we're the
00:45:19
we love to host our friends on the social and uh and u you know there truly are as American as you can be uh we love
00:45:29
our freedom uh we've suffered for so long uh and we're so thankful for uh
00:45:35
President Trump uh having having the courage to take on this evil regime and we look forward to uh hosting all-in pod
00:45:42
in tan >> that would sooner than later. >> One of the great bucket lists of my life
00:45:48
to be able to go to and host the podcast there and have tea with you in >> Let's put on the schedule a year from
00:45:55
today. >> Best food in in the world. I can't wait. >> What's the signature? What's the
00:45:59
signature for you? What's the signature dish? What's the What's your favorite?
00:46:03
>> Everyone loves the the Persian kebabs, right? But the kebabs in Iran are
00:46:09
something else. There's like it's a it's a tremendous uh >> you know food culture. Uh and the
00:46:15
national dish is called orabzi um which is a stew of lamb and and my mom was like the greatest version cook
00:46:25
in the world and she would cook it for three days. Uh and these foods I can't
00:46:30
wait to to break bread with you in a free room. It'll be >> Yeah. I mean that's one of the things
00:46:35
the Greeks and the Iranians share is that love of lamb. cannot wait. All right, my brother. Um
00:46:42
>> thank you. >> I'm so glad you're engaged in this. Gives me hope. Um and
00:46:47
>> good luck in the next uh three, four, five weeks. Let's hope and pray for the
00:46:52
best. >> Thank you >> to the all-in audience. We'll see you next time. Bye-bye.
00:46:57
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00:47:07
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00:47:29
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00:47:33
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