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and then we're going to do specialty drinks up here we'll still have full sponsor I want one of these right is
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obsessed with pal I love I'm in now I'm a pal guy right now it's like the Allin intro music Y
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which I've done a live arrangement for with the brass [Music] now we're not going to do a year review
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discussion we're just going to go right into I think we caught it yeah yeah we're going to go right into the awards
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well you're going to go right into you're going to go right into Santa canis doing B we could do that it's easy
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that's the Santa canis change moment that could be the change exactly how much time does he need to change
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[Music] it's me Santa that's good yeah I mean it's pretty hilarious so we're really
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excited to have some besy awards to give out tonight let's get started J are you
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back are you here where are you oh God sorry I was just getting in founder mode woo let's go Saturday night San
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Francisco [Music] J you want to warm us up okay all right everybody let's get loose
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we know what we do we have a game plan we've been doing this for 206 episodes we're not changing anything we are who
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we are we know what to do fry B bring that science S I got the red meat for you and Cham I need you as obnoxious as
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you can be out there don't worry about me I got jokes I got jokes for days we started this in Co and we're
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going to finish it on Pennsylvania Avenue now let's bring it in 1 2 3 all in we got
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this let's go America 2024 a year of political earthquakes extraordinary Market events
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War space and the Revelation that Diddy is super into baby oil authorities located more than a th000 bottles of
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baby oil lubricant it was a year so profound got to give him that hu too and spit all that thing America was at times
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at a loss for words look um the uh like I said I'm well put gentle Joe so tonight we look back the all-in podcast
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presents America 2024 what in the [ __ ] just happened the story of 2024 starts with
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AI the Revolutionary technology has fueled a boom in countless sectors but mostly the legal field
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Scarlett Johansson's legal team wants details on exactly how they were able to create that voice that sounds like she
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said so eerily similar it sounds just like of course it's a digitally altered version of scaron and they got caught
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Okay cookie jar and AI also created the most remarkable deep fake video ever welcome thank they almost look like
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friends amazing yes 2024 proved there's no problem AI can't solve and or cause Google has had to pause AI made images
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quote after race inaccuracies this year AI helped launch the most drool worthy tech product in years a computer
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chip yeah baby dgx has become the essential instrument of AI we've never seen anything like this in the history
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of Silicon Valley or Corporate America Nvidia is K of the AI Revolution and they're so hot they're literally too
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[Music] hot the information reported that the chips are overheating in servers but
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don't worry there's an elegant solution to the problem I bought myself this Hiroshima mask so I do not have to smell
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the burn on those conductors problem [Music] solved but in videoid wasn't alone in AI
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news open AI was at the Forefront of Reinventing another crucial industry office drama lot of drama involving uh
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open AI what a mess what's next this week on General AI hospital is Sam alman's job security in
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Jeopardy whose data was stolen this time what did Yas see why isn't he talking about it and with our special
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guest will our special guest get her revenge General AI hospital but Sam Alman never let the drama distract him
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from Open ai's primary Mission philanthropy it's actually really important that you're not doing private
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enrichment off philanthropic donations and so you know it's it's but isn't that what's
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happened um um you know I think that the you know um you know I think like I said
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sour grips well said read but even if open AI was a little more like closed AI its humble leader Sam Alman was still
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toiling away humbly for the bint of mankind you make a lot of money do you I make no uh I paid enough for health
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insurance I have no equity and open AI really yeah that's interesting but don't think this workingclass hero doesn't
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suffer did you know that his $1.9 million Supercar wasn't available and candy apple red like he
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wanted still it wouldn't be a year in review without mentioning Elon Musk who incidentally we will all be required to
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mention daily in 2025 as Bound by federal law the world's jumpiest capitalist and
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the new co-leader of the Free World showed everyone in 2024 that being Elon Musk is a pretty [ __ ] sweet gig from
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soaring in space to delivering charity from business Booms to getting anointed by Joe Rogan as free speeds Jesus from
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getting hired in politics to getting hired to fire people in politics 2024 was a year that couldn't shake Elon Musk
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just ask this guy you know he likes this place I can't get him out of here and it
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was all prophesized by our own David Palpatine everything has proceeded as I have foreseen 2024 was a banner year in
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Tech and in how many giant names we tricked into coming on our podcast I love that house he has I love David's
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house I can't believe I get to sit down with one of the most famous investors in
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Uber it was like the hand of God massaging my central nervous system what the flying happened if you have specific
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questions I'm happy to did somebody stab you in the back did you find AGI oh my god what have we done inviting these
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lunatics on the program hold on guys I got to get into founder mode oh wow founder mode he founder mode I'm I'm
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going to found sh I got a Founder mode too where's J oh sh speaking of financial highs 2024
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experienced a wide range of viewpoints from the effectiveness of ESG to disagreement on new CTA Boi reporting
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but there was unanimous agreement on one key financial issue Lena KH has become the most aided and feared person on Wall
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Street and Lena KH is utterly ineffective what Lena Khan has done is just go after quote bigness which just
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means stopping these companies from doing anything that would make and bigger the only acquisition she couldn't
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stop chok's $5,000 sweater habit oh yeah chamach strut your stuff let's talk about the sweaters this Jason oh really
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is the thin summer gillet okay beautiful cashmir [ __ ] yeah these days the all-in boys and
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their friends are looking Slim in their cash bear thanks to a new class of Miracle drugs that stormed the world of
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Biotech in 2024 OIC OIC OIC Game Changer injectable weight loss drugs are hot in
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our poker group like four of the 12 or 13 regulars are on it 2025 is looking to be the year gp1s change the face of
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everything literally but we heard that term OIC face first we had OIC face and now we have OIC
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but but if 2024 will be remembered for one thing it will be for shining a light on elder abuse our 46 president stepped
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aside introducing the country to a fresh new upstart ready to tackle the problems
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of a fractured country I grew up a middle class kid I grew up a middle class kid I grew up a middle class kid I
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grew up a middle class Kid President Trump however wouldn't stand by idly and let kabala torch her own campaign
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they're eating the dogs the people that came in they're eating the cats in the end however it wasn't even close
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literally nothing literally nothing literally not one County there was just so much to 2024
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that we can't cover it all from Trump nearly getting assassinated to Trump nearly getting assassinated from
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continued Wars in Europe and the Middle East to continued battles on the home front from the cringiest of tick toks to
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Black nais and an Aussie dance Legend 2024 was anything but very demure very mindful with 2024 in the rear view
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mirror let's turn to our outgoing president for some Sage advice on our Collective future but I tell you what I
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don't know about you but I'm going to go to bed let your Winn's ride ladies and Gentlemen please join me in welcoming
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your bestie [Applause] [Music] [Applause] what's up Merry Christmas welcome zarx you weren't allowed to say Merry
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Christmas until about 3 weeks ago Merry [ __ ] Christmas everybody where where's
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happy holidays where's jcal where's jcal jcal jcal it is I Santa canis here to spread
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joy and stock options and Bitcoins to All These Fine San Francisco They thems it's
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whatevers oh this is starting off horribly but okay oh oh Santa canis where are you
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coming from well you know uh you know they paid money for this right you could have at least memorized your
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lines it's just too funny sometimes the cold opens work and sometimes they don't
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they don't it's true it's true the problem is this one this one's supposed to go for 8 minutes so 8 minutes you
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have stuff in there for 8 minutes it's not like you guys are going to make this crowd laugh okay
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so no it's uh we moved the North Pole we moved it where'd you move it to well it
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was a problem because you know all these elves who've come across the border up there tons of fent andol it's a disaster
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terrible and just crazy inflation up there so we we moved the North Pole down to Austin Texas oh it's it's an Austin
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Texas now yeah better tax treatment you know can you get elves there s you know it's a little bit hard some of them have
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come across the border some of them work hard other ones not so much have you automated well you know it's interesting
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you say that oh oh no milk and cookies I'll take some Bitcoin if you have any extra okay thank you there Troth yes
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we've done some automation yes oh here it is everybody you know we have a lot of problems with
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the elves you know they've been unionizing Sachs it's too much regulation but we can get these here
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from 1 x only $1 per hour but we need you back in Santa's lab okay you need to be building some toys okay now get back
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to work yeah we don't have HR anymore okay so what are you doing after yeah no I
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mean I got my friends got the good K okay we'll talk later who robot is this it's Santa's uh robotic elf right s s
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sorry hold on a second hold on before we continue with this clearly incredible bit that you two ding-dongs wrote I I
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was just told to read can we just say a cheers for the new [Applause] Zar ma bro
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congratulations yes congratulations there congratulations Z it's a little hard with the $27 Amazon
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Santa suit well you know guys I have the list here that you guys were asking about
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this is the na this bit goes on for like 8 minutes hold on I've got the naughty and the nice list it's a pretty big list
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this year let's take a look Sam Ortman is on the naughty list very naughty two three four times on the naughty list oh
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Jensen also on the top of the list uh you know Santa's got a lot of that Nvidia 20 bagger so far woo yes also
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some Nvidia employees here they didn't sponsor though oh I don't know why why he's so cheap okay Santa canace I think
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it's time for you to go back to Austin yeah well you know I have to do another podcast yeah it's it's got 20 times the
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ratings of Allin it's called hot ones I don't know who the host is but uh you're
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getting beaten in the ratings by 12 chicken wings congratulations boy more work for you guys okay I'll see you next
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time great every bye everybody s can out of here [Applause] [Music] okay well you you have to you have to
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admire the dedication to the bit most people have given up after about 2 minutes he just kept going with it he
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really he's really committed he keeps going yeah it's great so just to get you guys oriented thank you all for being
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here this is going to be awesome we got a great night planned we got a show we're going to walk through the
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bestie Awards tonight it's going to be super fun and uh here we go here we go sorry I'm late I was in an Uber I was in
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an Uber I heard Santa Claus showed up an Uber Uber okay oh sorry let's do a drinking game the number of times jcal
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shills as companies we need to drink Jal introduce the awards let's kick this off how's this going to work
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oh okay so uh you guys know we do this amazing uh bestie Awards so we're going to do a bunch of bestie Awards here live
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on stage and interestingly this year we actually made a besti award it's right next to you chamat maybe you can hold
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one up saak go ahead and take a look at this now this bestie award is two men embracing in a long awkward
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hug and many people don't know the inspiration for this awkwardness but here it is to remind everybody there it
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is and that that's actually chth and David Sachs and David Sachs is actually reating the hug he actually re you're
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saying that we were the mold for for this it was cast out of our body shapes it's your it's uh actually accurate down
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to the uh inch yes it's very very accurate you and saxs uh sax you and chath they hugging uh so the first award
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we're going to do is business biggest winner Biggest Loser and biggest surprise so chth would you like to kick
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it off with your biggest business winner I think the biggest business winner of 2024 is the business of
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speech and what I mean by that is I think that we have made freedom of speech a very successful business model
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all right well done yeah who's your biggest business winner saxs well I I wanted to be original but I really
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couldn't I thought it was so obvious this year it has to be Elon Musk okay Elon Musk that's always a safe Choice
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freeberg who do you have it's SpaceX starlink Starship I don't know what else close comes close what's that well I
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mean first neurs and SpaceX at like a $350 billion valuation like tripling from that level in a year it's insane
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never been done before the boundaries just don't matter it's incredible it is incredible I went with Nvidia just to
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mix it up uh who's your biggest business loser saxs I said the biggest business loser was the Legacy Media oh mainstream
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media okay they uh they lost the election and something like half their ratings and they've been exposed as
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basically being overpaid podcasters okay I mean but podcasters aspire to be overpaid
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Legacy Media hosts yeah chamath who is your biggest business loser business loser Intel from the company that
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basically commercialized Mo's law for the advancement of humanity to just a totally confused shell of its former
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self H who do you got freeberg as your biggest business loser very old business has had a kind
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of mantle Place position in the United States for decades and that would be Boeing which seemed to unravel this year
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with um obviously the debacle with the Aerospace program particularly with Starliner stranding some astronauts
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needing to get rescued and there's a lot of turnover happening in the organization it just seems like a mess
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you know I went with Apple only because I felt division Pro felt flat the new iPhone 16 not very strong and I feel
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like they're a drift and we Buffett sold all the shares in it I feel like the company could do much better that's a
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well their their stocks up like 30% this year I think it's a little bit in the middle but I think it's based on
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potential I think they should be releasing great new products and they aren't okay uh let's go to business
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surprise did you have a business surprise over there Saxy poo I said paler was the biggest business surprise
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this year I mean I thought the company would do well but it stock went up 5x this
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year from 16 a share to 76 completely counterintuitive it just the market cap of paler just passed the
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market cap of locked Martin the amazing counterintuitive thing about paler was how much time they spent with their
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customers everybody shat on that idea and they were totally right totally right uh so were they your biggest
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surprise as well uh no my biggest business surprise uh are gp1s I think the number of markets that
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it seems to help this year it went from weight loss to cardiac Fitness to depression to drug addiction uh alcohol
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I mean you know it's basically a wonder drug of Wonder drugs and also I think you might be interested they said it can
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help with compulsive gambling as well chth that is I am not on a glp1 I don't have a
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problem okay freeberg do you have a surprise I was surprised by the return of kind of the long taale of crypto uh
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it's made it's come roaring back and everything seems to be on fire again no comment from the crypto Zar I know but
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crypto comeback is crypto crypto comeback the longtale crypto comeback I feel like Bitcoin was always a different
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story but the long TS got a I I looked at it and I I always love great products I picked Google everybody was talking
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two years ago about how Google was falling behind and 10 Blue Links weren't going to work work the Gemini app is
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absolutely fantastic I've been using Gemini app it's as good or better than do do J trade Google Shares i i j trade
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some shares yes I have I traded some Google Shares also weo also delightful and you
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know they had a rough year with some of that woke uh imagery in in uh Gemini but
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I think they had a great rebound soo's a really good story yeah I think felt like
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it's like what is that business a year and a half ago two years ago and I don't know you I've been taking Whos around
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the city you don't do City my sister and my brother-in-law are visiting this weekend there they are hey how you doing
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guys and uh they took a wh yesterday and I saw the video and basically what you have is my brother-in-law who's like
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totally Blown Away my sister who's like cautiously optimistic and they two kids who are
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like pinned to the back in fear cuz they're like who is driving this and my and my brother-in-law who's who's Indian
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he's like don't worry there are people like us somewhere driving this car okay let's uh let's go to politics
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Sachs here's your red meat I can't imagine who you have as your political winner but I know you probably struggled
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over this one this one's pretty obvious it's the the man who won the white house
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uh he actually he only won the White House he won the house he won the Senate he won the popular vote and he overcame
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a hostile media he overcame two assassination attempts one that missed him by millimeters so my biggest
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political winner for the year is Donald Trump okay there it is folks biggest winner wow you just glow when
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you mentioned djt just glowing we don't even need to like the stage when we say djt it's like a fusion reactor chamath
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who is your biggest political winner for 2024 my biggest and listen to this very
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carefully folks my biggest political winner of 2024 is David [ __ ] Sachs let's go Dam sacks [ __ ] yeah nicely done
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all right um say more say more well I said this before but I'll say it again i' I've never seen a team of
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people assembled in any government um like this and I really do mean what I say this is really the best
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of everything that happens a guy that has immigrated okay a guy that's worked his
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ass off he's done it in many different places in many different ways he's an amazing friend and he's [ __ ]
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brilliant and we need brilliant people yeah way to go did you have a uh political winner there uh Friedberg I
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know you don't talk too much about politics I went well I went with Independent Media I think that it
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totally reinvent everyone talks about this but it had such a huge impact in changing the narrative getting new
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messages out there that were being filtered or distracted away in other context so I thought that was the
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biggest winner and everyone's talking about the Legacy Media anchors all leaving and moving to Independent
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podcasting platforms and so on so that was the biggest winner I thought all right I picked the PayPal Mafia yourself
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included of course sax but Peter teal JD obviously strong the whole group I think
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really did a great thing now whether you are a fan of Donald Trump's or not if you're left or right I feel really great
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that you guys are around Donald Trump and I feel really optimistic and great energy for the country uh so the fact
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that the PayPal Mafia is there yourself included Sachs makes me feel really great about the next four years and I'm
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so proud uh that you're doing this and it's a great sacrifice for your country you could use these cycles for your own
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benefit and you're using these cycles for the benefit of America and humanity and I think that deserves a big round
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Applause okay thank you well you know one thing I'll say is chamath and I uh co-hosted the um the dinner for
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president trump it was on June 6 of this past year I remember that because it was
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dday I thought that was somehow significant but they asked me if um if I would be willing to host a a fundraiser
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for president Trump and I said well how much do we need to raise and they said well at a minimum 5 million and I didn't
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I I thought maybe that's a hard number to raise because there's not that many Republicans in San Francisco so the
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first call I made was to this man shath and I said would you co-host this with me because I figured okay well if nobody
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shows up jamaath and I can just split it and uh you dollar cost average you're fundraiser that's so bad he dollar cost
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average dude so I knew I knew he could pick up the check with me it was uh so in any event it was a big ask for from
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chamath because chamath had never supported Republicans before obviously I've been a crazy right Wier from way
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back but jamaath had had only supported Democrats and uh he said he was in and he decided to co-host it with me and so
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based on that I told him okay we're in we can do this and then it turns out that more and more people wanted to come
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because we showed some conviction so then we had 8 million committed then 10 million committed then we end up raising
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12 million that night 13 I thought 13 and then 13 well we got another million on top of it so we end up raising 13
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million that night so yeah but it it wouldn't happened unless he decided to coost it with me so thank you jam all
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right um political losers who do we got I mean I know this is a tough one too I I've already said this so this is
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going to be repetitive but it is of it's the thing that disappointed me the most
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personally uh I think the biggest political loser was Barack Obama it's the same thing where there
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were so many of us that literally would have stood in line for hours to just shake his hand I guess I just revered
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the idea of who he was and then I just saw a person that was reduced to honestly not telling the
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truth and doing it repeatedly and repeatedly and it just lost a tremendous amount of cache that I had for him and
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The Sensation that I had of who he was as a man uh who do you got freeberg biggest
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loser it's been said I just went with Legacy Media so my biggest political loser was
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lawfare I thought lawfare was The Biggest Loser because not only did it not work it backfired it backfired
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remember you predicted yeah exactly um remember they started the law fair right when the Republican primary started and
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I think Donald Trump would have won it anyway but once they started these sham trials they tried to bankrupt him they
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went after his kids they tried to imprison him Republican sh uh support shot through the roof and he won the
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Primary easily and then they did the same thing in the general and it activated and sort of radicalized a lot
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of people including myself because it was so unamerican to try and imprison your political opponent so I think it
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mely backfired and of course it wasn't just against trump it was also against Elon too well where did that get him
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they turned Elon from someone who identified formerly as a Democrat or an independent to someone who became a
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republican so it was not only not only did it not work it basically did the had the exact opposite effect of what they
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intended yeah I I picked the um I picked Biden and the Democratic machine as my Biggest Loser for obvious reasons and as
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we talked about on the pod gosh it was so obvious that they were covering up Biden's cognitive decline and we're all
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sadly going to be in Decline at some point in our lives and that should be something where that person is supported
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and not abused in the way he was abused I I felt it was elder abuse we make that
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as a joke and then not running a speed primary and that's when for me a left leaning moderate I I felt like I can't
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support this if you don't actually have a primary process and I think they destroyed the party and it just has to
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be rebuilt from the bottom up uh it was a disaster and um I'm super disappointed
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like many people in their thuggy and criminal type Behavior I felt it was really low ethics and um I'm I'm not
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happy about it okay let's go political surprises political surprises anybody have a
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surprise chath you look like you got one ready to go my political surprise is JD Vance
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um I don't think if this works out properly there will be a Republican party the way that
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you normally knew it I think it is a Maga party and I think that JD Vance has the
00:31:46
potential to become the standard Bearer past Trump so that Baton Pass I think has the best potential and what
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I'll tell you about him as a person is this is a guy if you have a chance he will be here a lot I suspect especially
00:32:03
because of David meet the man understand where he's coming from this is an incredible human being I re I
00:32:11
really do mean that folks and I'm like a skeptical kind of gen generally I'm not
00:32:17
super fusive about people you're thoughtful about who you would with he's an incredible human being yeah you got a
00:32:23
surprise for us freedberg what was your surprise this political season 2024 I listened to the episode of pod save
00:32:30
America last week where the Democratic Leadership that ran the the haris campaign uh kind of gave their breakdown
00:32:38
on what happened and what struck me the most about the conversation and the way they talked about everything was
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everything was about some demograph demographic heuristic black males should do this white college educated female
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should do that everything was broken down to this like you are defined by whatever label we put on you and we
00:33:00
expect that voting block and we analyze you as a voting block as a group and how
00:33:04
you all move together and all of that [ __ ] broke down what happened in this election cycle was a lot of people voted
00:33:12
as independently minded people in a way that I think broke their brains they didn't understand how and why people
00:33:19
were starting to think on their own and so I don't think anyone anticipated that
00:33:26
going into this year it's certainly closely coupled with the rise of Independent Media but individuals taking
00:33:31
choice for not just being categorized and labeled and bucketed and told how to vote and what to think and what to do
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people stood up and said I'm going to have my own thoughts on stuff and suddenly all of the models broke that
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was the biggest surprise and I thought it was like a big sea change United States something I think it's a really
00:33:46
great Point you're making one great thing that could come out of this is the return to judging people by their
00:33:53
character their performance their actions as opposed to Identity politics which is a true dead end in our society
00:34:00
I think it's really well said freeberg did you have a political surprise this year Sach yeah I would say building on
00:34:06
what you guys said my biggest political surprise was that even in deep blue cities like San Francisco the voters
00:34:13
rejected the woke left in favor of more moderate alternativ so here in San Francisco we got Daniel lurry as mayor
00:34:23
uh he was elected Dean Preston and Aaron peskin were defeated we have a moderate
00:34:27
major majority On The Board of Supervisors in Oakland the leftist mayor and d da got recalled in LA county uh we
00:34:35
beat uh George gasone who was the Soros da Statewide uh prop 36 pass this is the
00:34:44
uh proposition to make crime illegal again and uh and so even in a deep blue State like California you're seeing a
00:34:52
return to uh sanity you know I had a surprise I was going to say podcast but when I thought about it it
00:35:00
was obvious to us and I think a lot of people that podcast were going to play a big role and it's clear
00:35:07
podcasts um played a big role but I want to specifically shout out fredberg and our podcast for bringing up the topic
00:35:15
two or three years ago of the budget deficit and our outof control spending and you harped on this
00:35:22
freedberg and you know I I thought the election would be a referendum on Trump's
00:35:29
behavior in the past I thought it would be a referendum on abortion and and a women's right to choose and I'm not
00:35:34
saying these aren't important issues but now it's turned out that efficiency of our government and our fiscal
00:35:41
responsibility and what we pass on to our children is now the most important issue I want to pause for a second
00:35:47
Hallelujah but yeah and I think it's a big round of applause for freeberg because I just want to pause for a
00:35:52
second of how unpopular that topic was we set ourselves on the Pod there there is no way that any politician will ever
00:36:00
take this up because it's too toxic to talk about cutting spending you'll never get elected Etc and now we're sitting
00:36:06
here and I think because of you harping on it us talking about it Elon caring about it V who came on the Pod and he
00:36:14
really got passionate about it now we have Doge and one of the greatest things that could happen in this Administration
00:36:20
and I would be very proud you know of of your contribution and the pod's contribution to this is if we can just
00:36:27
control are spending so we do not mortgage our children's future disastrously and and this is the most
00:36:34
important thing over the next year to if you don't like Trump and you didn't vote
00:36:37
for him you can support Doge you can support Elon you can support having a balanced budget and US controlling
00:36:45
spending it is an issue for all Americans truly all right this is a hot start we got a hot start C me one of
00:36:52
those Awards there here you go here we go all right J Cal's going to invite our first guest tonight right look at this
00:36:59
wow this is some serious man love that's me and chamath should we clean up the naughty and nice list by the way off the
00:37:07
uh okay it's an ergonomic representation of uh me and shamal hugging it out it's
00:37:12
not easy to give a hug like that when you're on the spectrum is it saxs not not easy but you got through it um so
00:37:20
it's it's a strength for him tonight I'm very proud to give the award for setting
00:37:26
the most money on fire in pursuit of a failed campaign to the one the only Aaron Levy friend of the Pod from box
00:37:34
welcome Aaron [Applause] leie this is a very very special wow okay [Music] yeah okay uh I have no idea why I said
00:37:51
yes to this so um also what the hell is this thing um I think this is the closest I'll ever get to speaking at the
00:37:58
Republican National Convention so um so thank you good to be here I have a I have a couple
00:38:07
notes so first of all why didn't mark cubin or venod coal accept this why is this me
00:38:13
why I don't I don't understand what happened here venod doesn't have a sense of humor okay okay so um all right so
00:38:20
yes uh we did waste a little bit of money on this campaign but um but it went to the Vegas fear so did you see
00:38:28
this fear and how well that was the The Campaign used that money so I decided to
00:38:34
do a little bit of a post morm so we called the campaign and talked to kamla uh just to you know understand
00:38:39
afterwards you know what the reaction was her response uh stood out to me actually pretty profoundly so I I
00:38:44
actually wrote it down I wanted to make sure I got it kind of word for word she she said and I quote I'm in the arena
00:38:51
trying stuff some will work some won't but always learning and you know I I actually felt
00:39:02
like that was a really good and profound way to to think about the campaign so I left I left a lot better
00:39:10
after after hearing that so now I do want to congratulate David Sachs um obviously on his new role in
00:39:18
the administration pretty incredible uh the the PayPal Mafia takeover of the government is now complete so so good
00:39:24
work on that um you know I was getting worried actually so so they told me about this actually
00:39:31
like three or four days ago changed the whole plan obviously Midway nothing nothing about what is going on right now
00:39:36
was was the plan um but I was you know had to kind of say a couple lines about each person and so David I was getting
00:39:41
worried about because I didn't you know sort of I've been worried for David because I didn't know what he would do
00:39:47
given Trump promised to end the war in Ukraine like what else is David going to talk about so you know i' I've known
00:39:55
David's views on the the you know the the the war in Ukraine um but I actually didn't know that that uh it was so
00:40:01
serious that you become a zar I mean that's that's pretty that's pretty impressive now what's cool about David's
00:40:08
new role waiting the Council of advisers for Science and Technology is you can kind of think about him as like the IT
00:40:14
guy of the government now so so if you have any issues with a DMV website he is he's your
00:40:22
guy and you also have the benefit of being the crypto Zar so I think if if you could just let us know at some point
00:40:28
in the conversation what do you think the price Target is on the Haw Tua coin like where are we where are we headed
00:40:34
with this um now David works in the government which means we have an inside track for some of the uh the besties um
00:40:43
which I think it'll be pretty helpful for various positions in the in the cabinet um and I know there's already a
00:40:48
pick for this one but if a position happens that opens up for transportation secretary maybe you could let them know
00:40:54
that Jason was the first investor in Uber and and I feel like that would make him
00:41:01
an expert in this in this topic third or fourth I think actually yeah I was just
00:41:06
going off of Wikipedia so um so I changed it today in anticipation now unfortunately Jason's probably
00:41:15
disqualified uh for for the cabinet because somehow he's actually even more woke than me um this guy loves masks
00:41:23
more than Anthony fouchy uh he once he once tweeted and I actually want to be very clear
00:41:30
about this this was in October of 2021 he once tweeted not to be a narc but half the folks are not wearing masks
00:41:38
at the Staple Center right now H # super spreader I I added the hashtag sorry um
00:41:52
okay and uh speaking of Co we're going to bring it home now um freedberg I know this situation must be
00:42:00
very difficult for you with RFK you know Junior coming on board everyone knows about Preppers building out bunkers in
00:42:07
case of disaster right you you sort of you everybody talked about these kind of Preppers freeberg bunker looks a little
00:42:12
bit different than everybody else's right now you know usually you want to stock up on ammo cans of beans etc for
00:42:18
freedberg it's um obviously quinoa but but uh he has one of every vaccine tons of pesticides and a lifetime supply of
00:42:26
fluoride packed away so we're we're getting ready for anything to that could come next in
00:42:31
this government anyway in all seriousness thanks for this incredible honor uh whatever this thing is I'm at
00:42:38
I'm extremely extremely optimistic for the path ahead in America we have a lot we can get done so excited for that
00:42:45
let's do it thank you have a seat join us give it up everybody for Aaron Ley well done join us all
00:42:51
right joining us all right aon's going to hang out and do the next couple of Awards with us I just want to say that
00:42:59
Aaron is my favorite white dude for Harris all right the the official line is beta mail for Harris that was uh you
00:43:08
got you got that wrong I'll let Mark cubin know he's number two you know you know I just realized I
00:43:16
was the series B investor in both of your companies wow you know it's incredible that that David saxs blew off
00:43:24
the the the typical ceiling that you have being a B2B founder so this is this is this means we have something we can
00:43:30
now strive for so this is uh this is incredible all right we're going to do another set of awards here let's get
00:43:36
this back on track but actually but can we be there was it was pretty cool though that the literal upcoming
00:43:42
president of America mentioned Yammer in a tweet I mean that is that is that is actually pretty cool that was pretty
00:43:48
great I was surprised you didn't get a genie mention in there so it's a deep pull let's go over to our next set of
00:43:54
Awards this first one is best CE not named Elon Musk so this is our yearly award for the best CEO named not named
00:44:03
Elon Musk who do you got free burer Jensen Jensen an obvious one there nothing I mean everyone knows the
00:44:10
numbers what else is there to say okay that guy has been compounding and the crazy thing about compounding is if you
00:44:15
zoom out at the end everything looks pretty slow and flat and steady for a while until the end and uh he's built so
00:44:21
many advantages into that business and it's finally paying off the macro was right technology advantage everything
00:44:27
it's just extraordinary patience diligence execution okay best CEO not named Elon Musk what do you got Dave
00:44:34
rcks the CEO of Eli Lily okay managed to build a billion dollar company and is just ripping seems Unstoppable sax who's
00:44:44
your best CEO not named Elon Musk well I mean freeberg is right if you look at the mag 7 uh Jensen had the best
00:44:51
performance but since that one was taken the number two actually was Marcus Zuckerberg you know
00:44:58
he's hold on he's been sneaky creeping up there I mean if you look at Facebook's performance or met
00:45:05
performance over the last two years it's up 500% so it has done surprisingly well
00:45:11
and I I will give him credit for back in August he wrote a letter basically apologizing for the censorship that meta
00:45:19
had done and exposing the uh the government's role and the FBI's role and the whole Hunter Biden cover which he
00:45:27
did not have to do at that point in time it was not clear yet it was not clear yet that Trump was going to win the
00:45:32
election so I think he deserves a little bit of credit for basically for wanting
00:45:37
to do the right thing on on Free Speech but in all honesty how long did you make
00:45:41
him wait to meet with Donald Trump at marago last week how long was the wait did you put an extra hour on the wait
00:45:48
okay did you have a best CEO not named dlon musar and Ley uh I'm actually going to uh steal uh saxes um Zuck um for a
00:45:56
very different kind of reason but uh I think Zuck is our counter pressure on the price of AI right now and um I think
00:46:03
that uh he he has a way of monetizing AI that is I mean Google kind of has a similar thing but they have a more
00:46:09
existential challenge that I think they're actually doing relatively well kind of dealing with but Zuck just to
00:46:16
improve ads can give away AI for the world and and keep everybody on their toes in terms of driving down the price
00:46:22
so I think that's good for all of us all right well done I uh also had Jensen for
00:46:26
obvious reason reasons let's go with best investor who's your the Nvidia crowd here is great just sponsor the show next
00:46:33
year guys you could be in the VIP you can afford it I don't know why you guys are
00:46:38
in section Z unbelievable maybe they're Frugal I guess Jensen's checking those expense
00:46:44
accounts who do you got as your best investor freeberg I just gave the best investor to the best public trade of the
00:46:51
year which was dren Miller when he shorted treasuries told everyone inflation is not under control yet we
00:46:58
still have a ways to go no one was listening he shorted treasuries we don't know what the actual ins and outs were
00:47:03
but he has an incredible ability to be so very preent very public very like direct when he has big bets and be right
00:47:11
um even if it is just a trade I don't know what net returns are Etc but man that guy just when when he talks you got
00:47:17
to listen chth who's the best investor of 2024 in your mind besides yourself I was going to say me but we
00:47:29
know uh I i' give it to Michael sailor I think that whoa Bitcoin Max in the back
00:47:36
he's found he's found this incredible he's an investor I mean he's he's the executive chairman of micro strategy so
00:47:43
he's not really involved into the day-to-day he's really running their Bitcoin position and he's created this
00:47:50
massively levered long Bitcoin play he's borrowing money at a s zero it's uh his returns are bananas
00:48:00
right now what could go wrong uh saxs who is your best investor I had dren Miller as well for a similar reason
00:48:09
which is it wasn't just the treasury bet it's the fact that he's been warning for
00:48:12
years that the US fiscal situation is unsustainable and in a way he's like the investor version of Doge he's basically
00:48:20
saying if we don't fix this we're going to have a huge huge problem Aaron Do you
00:48:26
have a investor for 2024 you can share I think the um uh I think the solo GP uh kind of cohort but uh Nat and and Daniel
00:48:35
so Nat Freeman Daniel gross are they're quietly building probably one of the most powerful AI portfolios um that uh
00:48:43
that that we're going to see kind of play out so they were they were first in line in this wave and um and I think
00:48:48
they're uh they're on top of it okay obviously an LP and the firm um and so I'm going to go with uh Peter I'm just
00:48:55
taking a guess an educator one um best investor for me was Peter teal but on two tracks obviously Peter's been in
00:49:03
some of the great companies through Founders fund including SpaceX but he also picked Trump he also picked Vance
00:49:08
and he also picked Sachs so I think it's undeniable that Peter Tiel is just a great picker hands down one of the
00:49:15
greatest investors whether it's in people politics uh or businesses so I give it to Peter teal uh let's do our
00:49:22
best new product best new product of 2024 Aon I'm going to start with you this time do you have a best new product
00:49:29
that you launched at box uh we we do um but I'll exclude our ourselves from this
00:49:35
but the um uh but I I I think the the wave of voice AI um I'm most compelled by right now as as sort of the 2024 kind
00:49:43
of you can see the the semblance of actually you know a new paradigm for for mobile um we've kind of had the same
00:49:49
thing on mobile for 20 years and um uh and so the ability to actually uh you know in a high quality way talk to your
00:49:55
phone have it do something thing uh I think is you're starting to see signs the latest version of Gemini um is just
00:50:01
incredibly uh powerful perplexity has very good uh work here chat gbt advanced voice mode so I think you're going to
00:50:08
start to see this uh shape kind of computing in in the next couple years sax any new products this year that
00:50:15
captured your imagination yeah I think this is the year that self-driving finally broke through obviously Tesla's
00:50:21
got full self-driving but also this wayo one app people are going wild over it so
00:50:26
I think I think uh this is the year that self-driving broke through and I think next year it's going to get bigger and
00:50:30
bigger chamath best new product this year I'll pick the 2024 King's cashmere collection from
00:50:38
lauro Piana it was um that was my number two exceptional like a baby's forkin okay I
00:50:45
think um I just got a message that Laura Piana made a big drop off at your house
00:50:52
okay unbelievable I would just like to say the best new product of the year is anything Tom Ford made so I'd like to
00:50:58
Pander as well um what do you got freeberg I was I was with Aaron I think advanced voice AI is a gamechanging new
00:51:06
ux it's going to change Computing and uh it's weird when you start using it you can have a dialogue learn something you
00:51:14
never thought you could learn and just ask questions and engage like you're speaking to your own personal tutor it's
00:51:19
incredible okay uh well very interestingly we have two people talking about voice Ai and Sak I was with you I
00:51:25
think this is the year self-driving is actually manifesting across nine different companies the companies in
00:51:31
China there's six or seven of them actually active uh as well as obviously weo and uh FSD 12. X has been really a
00:51:39
major upgrade so I went with self-driving so uh that's our amazing cohort uh let's give it up for Mr Aaron
00:51:47
Levy very [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] here's your chart we had this great
00:52:13
moment of hourly earnings growth going up so how much people make on average you're probably wondering why I look so
00:52:19
bored I mean honestly I want these dip sh to stop blabbering on pass me the ball and get the out of the way the wine
00:52:27
is delicious by the way if only we could do an episode my way hey everybody Welcome to the all-in
00:52:36
podcast for the first time ever I chamath the dictator and moderating I've replaced the besties with a couple of
00:52:45
special guests we literally have three of the world's greatest minds and bodies on the show first up
00:52:54
let me welcome one of silicon Valley's most Legend investors Jam thanks Jam by the way that
00:53:01
is a beautiful sweater okay but let's cut the show and let's get right into the show because honestly this could be
00:53:07
the best episode ever you're right jamat we're going to start with markets today
00:53:11
because we also have one of the greatest Public Market prognosticators in the world what is going on with the economy
00:53:18
chath great question chath well look I think the US economy honestly is a tightly coiled spring the future looks
00:53:26
unbel ably bright or we're in a recession my gosh I couldn't have said it better myself okay guys let's get
00:53:32
into science Corner next we have another brilliant mind on the show technically incredible a scientific genius tell us
00:53:41
what you've made Jam well I'm really excited to share that my new company schalo has come up with a new way to
00:53:50
grow perfect grapes in any weather so now every Gra great can produce a 1992 Chateau lure what that's incredible can
00:54:03
I invest a billion dollars well we're going to have to see about that off wow guys this really is the best episode
00:54:10
ever [Music] orgasmic wow wow all right we're going to move on I would watch welcome our iners I
00:54:25
watch that show see that our second in-person Award winner of the night the award for second best botes sister
00:54:34
please welcome Alex bz all right friend of the [Applause] [Music] Pod can you guys hear me well good cuz I
00:54:51
have some awards to give out as well oh oh no Chamas congratulations on the most likely to
00:54:59
think of Elon when making love do you guys remember when chamath was posting thirst traps on Twitter
00:55:09
imagine being a billionaire so annoying that you still need a six-pack to get laid next up please join me in saluting
00:55:21
America's first Zar all hail sex congratulations on no longer being the least successful of the PayPal
00:55:34
Mafia oh that one that one stung it's good to see jcal laughing I'm surprised you showed your face tonight
00:55:43
after Palmer lucky annihilated you last [Laughter] Summit congratulations on proving that
00:55:51
ass kissing can be a career this year you win most Investments least exits award thank you thank
00:56:00
you okay guys this next one is a little bit spicy jcal gets pegged by the VC industrial complex and each time he
00:56:09
whimpers Uber as his safe word and last but not least David fredberg the human equivalent of
00:56:20
soilent oh o jamad likes that fre ber definitely got bullied all his life but lucky for
00:56:29
him being autistic is now trendy but hey I got to give credit where it's due fredberg thank you for
00:56:38
making the world a better place for Monsanto [Laughter] shareholders thank you very much
00:56:45
everyone I'm Alex B okay thank you Alex B all right wow um well you know let's do our congratulations welcome back to
00:56:58
the stage thank you for having me it's great to see you last time you were here you beat three or four of us uh at the
00:57:04
same time playing chess two of four two of four and what she had a push with one
00:57:10
of you or stom it or r i blundered the Queen but I I W on time okay you w on time I don't really give it to myself um
00:57:16
how much have you been thinking about your defeat by Sachs over the last 6 months clearly a lot after that Rose yes
00:57:23
it explains a lot explains not that you're a comp you know we have some um amazing Awards
00:57:29
to give let's go with our favorite media favorite media of 2024 did you have a favorite media pick saacks well it's got
00:57:36
to be podcasts and I don't just mean our own I like pretty much all I watch these
00:57:40
days are just podcasts you know so I never watch any network TV do you have a specific one that comes to
00:57:47
mind well begins with a T if I can only pick one that's not us uh there's a podcast called the Durant that I like a
00:57:57
lot on International Affairs so check that one out deep P deep P Tucker's going to be brokenhearted uh Cham
00:58:04
favorite media 2024 this is uh the director is a friend of ours his name is Franchesco Kini the show is called
00:58:12
superp sex on Netflix it is about the life of the Italian porn star Roco safy it's
00:58:21
phenomenal it builds there's drama it's about his life as a kid it's his relationship with his mom his
00:58:28
relationship with his older brother it's really good super sex on Netflix okay so
00:58:36
chamath just picked PornHub for his favorite media great um de p uh so to speak freeberg Dune
00:58:46
2 come on it was unbelievable I did not think that Dune 2 could beat Dune it the
00:58:53
the black and I mean you saw you're a little don't act you're not a nerd C right now you can't do that Dune 2 was
00:59:00
pretty great pretty amazing you know I wanted to come up with something a little bit more recent so I went with
00:59:05
Day of the Jackal it's a new show based on the 1970s I just watched episode 8 Nat and I watched it before we came up
00:59:12
good great episode have you seen episode 8 I watched episode 8 yes it's great awesome phenomenal uh so just you know
00:59:19
great pull um Alex what do you got any favorite media for 2024 Hawk up but listen up not what she
00:59:28
did with the meme coin but I've never seen anybody ride her 15 seconds of stardom the way she was able to do
00:59:35
especially when it's so hard to become viral across all platforms nowadays she was like top like it was like a top 10
00:59:41
podcast for a couple weeks right like yeah I think she peaked at number three yeah it is pretty incredible Inside
00:59:48
Story the week Haw Tua happened we were going to have her on the Pod sax and I were like yeah great PLL we should do it
00:59:55
and guess who spiked it ding ding not sham ding ding ding ding we could have had hakua on the Pod to talk about
01:00:03
Ukraine to talk about comma I mean the world needed to know her take let's let's right after imagine right after
01:00:11
that clip comes out let's have a bunch of guys talk to her and be like yeah what do you think and not look like a
01:00:17
bunch of creepers that would have been a terrible idea I still stand by the strike your editorial instincts remain
01:00:24
terrible um saxs best start up of the year I'm just going to use this to promote my own
01:00:31
thing is that okay of course so glue I go glue of course fantastic shath you're best startup of the year I'm going to go
01:00:38
with ohal oh wait a sec I I want I want grapes the size of my balls I want strawber strawberries the size of
01:00:51
women's boobs I want potatoes the size of butt cheeks it's going to be fabulous the world's going to be incredible but
01:00:58
you have not none of no no no kidding aside I do I do think what freeberg is doing is bananas but true story none of
01:01:05
us have been able to wet our beaks in ohal yet none of us except Founders fun no he offers us a chance to invest every
01:01:11
time a round is closed and a new valuation is set unbelievable with friends like this uh freeberg would you
01:01:17
like to commit at getting us say 890 and glue I mean I got it's tied uh but I will say uh We've obviously talked a lot
01:01:25
about the thesis behind 8090 I'm an investor you're an investor um but I put anderol as my winner because yeah friend
01:01:33
of the Pod Palmer I will say like just just just talking about the collapse of Boeing the new Administration and the
01:01:40
number of people that are around andal that are also now around the administration creating a merit-based
01:01:44
system for defense spending to kind of upgrade systems and strategies in defense it's inevitable if you look at
01:01:50
what China's doing the us is going to have to respond accordingly he's like he's like another one of these crazy
01:01:56
which is like how does he go from building a VR headset to well he also made this game system called chromatic I
01:02:01
mean he's incredible the guy is a genius but I mean the whole the whole business
01:02:05
is set up with just a great group of investors it's perfectly aligned the macro is right I I just think that
01:02:10
that's going to be the next yeah it's of the moment what do you got Alex do you have a great a great favorite startup I
01:02:16
like anthropic cuz I like clot a lot um and also I'm not going to say open AI cuz I don't know what they're going to
01:02:23
do with all the rumors lately but I do use chat GPT even more okay well done and I picked Athena uh one of our great
01:02:30
Investments this year that has tripled Revenue I'm very proud of the team over there uh let's go with biggest flop did
01:02:37
you got a biggest flop chamath this year okay this is going to be a controversial
01:02:42
take I think the biggest FL not I don't want to say it's flop but I think the biggest
01:02:50
disappointment of this year to me was open AI I'll tell you why I think they are the most most at
01:02:57
risk mostly because of things that are out of their control so number one I think the quality of these models have
01:03:07
hit a wall and it's the folks that own private information for example what Elon owns through X that is going to
01:03:17
make the Game Changer in the quality of the models two he's actually bought now not just
01:03:25
the largest Nvidia cluster but he's promised to buy 900,000 more do you know what happens when you buy 100,000 and
01:03:32
then buy promised to buy 900,000 not only are you at the front of the line you consume nvidia's
01:03:39
attention and what that means is it's going to be so hard for everybody else to get a hold of what they need to train
01:03:47
I think it's a a very tricky situation for those guys saaks you got a biggest flop for the year biggest flop
01:03:56
my biggest flop was the self declared knucklehead Tim Waltz oh from uh Minnesota yeah freeberg oh Apple Vision
01:04:08
Pro Apple Vision Pro yeah I think it's a great start it feels like the Apple Newton it's definitely going to usher in
01:04:14
kind of a new Computing platform but it's definitely not Prime Time ready as we saw with the sales but Alex did you
01:04:20
have a biggest flop for the year the Netflix cover of the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight it was was their first oh
01:04:26
yeah good call good call that was a good one yeah yeah it was their first foray into live sports and they just couldn't
01:04:31
keep up with the streaming capabilities and then they got hit with a $50 million
01:04:35
lawsuit s did do you think it was fake do I think it was fake I don't think so I think Mike Tyson
01:04:43
actually needed the money and that's probably why he fought but you think he tried fully like
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he went I think he tried his best yeah I I I will doesn't doesn't your sister box
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doesn't your sister do boxing my sister does box yeah but tonight she'll be dejing at the after party she'll be
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kicking ass on the ones and the TW yeah you know fredberg used to DJ in college I heard fredberg used to Rave actually
01:05:08
is that true yes fredberg used to drop the beat yes um my biggest it doesn't get old I
01:05:17
mean what do I say nothing plot was Boeing Starliner embarrassment I mean if you bring astronauts up to the space
01:05:24
station you're kind of obligated to get them back down that's true yeah that that's I can't think of anything worse
01:05:30
than that that's a great that's a great call actually okay thank you Alex for joining let thank Alex bz Well Done big
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round of applause for friend of the pot Alex bz by the way thank [Music] [Applause]
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you all right uh we have one more award to do two more Awards two more Awards um all right here we go uh the biggest
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Sports story and the moment of the Year biggest Sports story Little Sports in here and then the moment of the year
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chamat do you have the biggest sport story of the year uh I think it's bronny James playing with his
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dad LeBron uh I think it was an incredible moment and I think LeBron deserved it
01:06:21
for everything he's done for the NBA all right well done uh what about you saxs do you have a best sport I know I know
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you're not physically active at all but do do you have a sports well I think the
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the biggest Sports story of the year was the Olympics and really the memes that came out of the I didn't really watch
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the Olympics I just saw the memes yeah that's what I was in it for and you know we had the that trans last supper There
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was the that sort of that shooter from Turkey you know and uh the P valder the p
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the paulter yeah CH yeah he was Moonlighting as the Paul vter to C that was what I remember Paul vter was pretty
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depressing freeberg I went with Australian uh Hip Hops at the Olympics Australian hip hop
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at the Olympics I I do think that that that that moment really kind of showed everyone how ridiculous things had
01:07:18
gotten um and it it was like at least in certain circles it felt very resonant of
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like a broader set of things that were happening and everyone was like how is this an Olympic sport how is this
01:07:30
happening and it made a lot of people start to question the sanity of a lot of the institutions around us and things
01:07:36
that were going on yeah and I too thought the biggest moment in sports was at the Olympics and just gender and
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sports generally as a topic which we're going to need to get through as a society where we have not only uh
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transgender individuals but interex folks we need to work this issue out in good faith and have I think a thoughtful
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dialogue about it specific with the boxing and and some of the other sports uh let's go to Our Moment Of The Year
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the moment of the year I I'll kick it off sax I thought the moment of the Year for me was not the assassination attempt
01:08:08
of trump obviously but his reaction to it when he got up and he pumped his fist and he said fight fight fight I think
01:08:15
you got an idea of his character and that he wasn't going to give up um and uh thank God that he wasn't um hit by
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that bullet I know it was that was mine too 100% that was like the the moment of
01:08:28
the year the photo of the year that's the image we're always going to remember pretty iconic yeah what do you got for
01:08:34
the moment of the Year chamath March 16th it was a Saturday it was the greatest sexual
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encounter of my life I gave Nat an enormous internal o oh my God all by myself wait wait
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okay so wait the greatest moment of the year was a sexual encounter that you had with my wife with your
01:09:07
wife really you know it's interesting I think we all got the tsunami warning when that happened it was pretty it was
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it shattered the whole Bay Area freeberg um would you like to also pick the 17 seconds of your latest sexual encounter
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it was the Trump assassination ATT so all we had consens this year of what the most iconic moment of the year was when
01:09:37
it happened I was sitting outside having beer with a bunch of people I remember there was like 12 of us and we looked
01:09:43
around the table and everyone was like he just won the election that was it it was like in that moment I knew it felt
01:09:49
like that was it so it I think it defined the year okay so that concludes all of the amazing Awards
01:09:59
we've given that is that's uh that's our Awards do you want to do a I don't know
01:10:04
maybe end with a little Christmas what you're grateful for looking forward hope for the next for the new year and then
01:10:08
we'll kind of well you know it's always a good time at the end of the year to reflect um on the pod on the community
01:10:16
uh and what we all experien this year um obviously a major eventful year looking
01:10:22
into next year maybe what we learn this year having having just great conversations on the Pod and off the pod
01:10:30
in the group chat at the summit um any Reflections on the year that was shth and then maybe some hope
01:10:38
for 2025 I I'll just remind everybody that we are the sum of our family and our friends this year you moved away which
01:10:50
is really heartbreaking one of our really great friends in the poker game has been
01:10:57
struggling with a bunch of very serious health issues um so it's just a reminder for me
01:11:04
that um you know it just goes by really fast I feel really lucky to be around you
01:11:11
guys I feel really lucky that folks like you exist thank you for listening um I love all of you thank
01:11:22
you sax would you like to try to Channel emotion as we wrap up the show and reflect on feelings that might have come
01:11:33
up inside of that meat sack yeah over there well call him a meat sack yeah I mean to be
01:11:43
honest I was starting to feel really annoyed with you jcel on the Pod I wasn't sure how much longer I could put
01:11:50
up with it be perfectly Frank but but you know tonight you kind of remind me why it's fun to do this oh thank you and
01:11:59
so yeah I'm very happy to be here tonight and be part of this well yeah reflecting on it um thank you I too um
01:12:07
am reminded how um absolutely insufferable it is to talk about Ukraine every week um but that I love you and
01:12:16
spending time with you uh all three of you is uh and debating this and learning together and growing as men and maybe
01:12:25
trying to help and give back you know there's so many positive things that come out of a good faith discussion and
01:12:33
you know we argue we fight we debate uh but we always come together every week and we start it all over again and we're
01:12:43
we are contener and we're perfectionists and we really try to make this a great product uh and we really care about the
01:12:49
audience and it's just so wonderful that we didn't quit I remember we had that conversation in the beginning and chath
01:12:56
was saying like you know how does this become successful and I says it become successful if we just show up every week
01:13:02
if we just show up every week it's going to work and it's going to be great and you know here we are going into year
01:13:07
five and I I'm just so happy that we didn't quit um and that we kept going forward and I
01:13:15
hope that we can all do this in 30 or 40 years in diapers in a nursing home somewhere in Italy uh I hope we do this
01:13:22
for the rest of our lives because it's been such an incredible Joy and man I just love the fact that y all come out
01:13:27
and stop us at airports or take a selfie and tell us what you think of the show fredberg any thoughts on the year that
01:13:35
was and the Pod and you know this incredible moment of Sachs many times when I was going to quit the show and I
01:13:43
think how much I really don't like jcal and then that's a theme in the reflections there's like a and sometimes
01:13:50
I'll sit in my bath I'll have my feet up you send me pict and I'll think to myself
01:13:55
man I love J A it's all coming together and for all for all the challenges that each of us have I'm very grateful for
01:14:04
the moment of being here with you guys it's made a huge impact on my life that I never thought would be the case thank
01:14:09
you I also think we're in an amazing moment uh the United States certain people in the United States are really
01:14:17
blessed and do really well there's a lot of challenges and a lot of things that need to be fixed and a lot of people
01:14:22
that struggle a lot and outside the United States there's a lot more people that struggle a lot and I'm really hope
01:14:27
hopeful that I think I really do believe that technology drives prosperity and that technology and um kind of the
01:14:36
ability for technology to kind of transform lives around the world can help everyone and I I'm very hopeful
01:14:42
because I I have not been hopeful in this way in a long time and I think that over the next year next couple of years
01:14:47
there will be an an amazing kind of evolution uh that that'll be Unleashed uh in prosperity that will really make a
01:14:54
big impact so I'm super helpful super happy and super excited yeah that's a great note great note thank you to the
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amazing band tonight very well done big round of applause for the band and the production team that's it let get some
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founder Mode come on yeah let's get some founder mode happy Holidays happy holidays everybody we see you at the
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