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Billionaire Investor's Bull Case for the Economy: Tokens Over Tariffs

May 10, 2025 / 01:09

This episode discusses the rise of AI tokens, Microsoft’s processing of 100 trillion tokens, and the impact of tariffs on the market. Key topics include the AI bubble, ROI on AI, and the shortage of chips.

The conversation highlights Microsoft’s Q1 report, where they processed 50 trillion tokens in March alone. The discussion points to the increasing demand for compute power due to more sophisticated reasoning engines.

Participants reflect on the market's reaction to tariffs and how it was influenced by broader concerns about AI's effectiveness. They argue that the market downturn was not solely due to tariffs but also due to fears surrounding AI.

Future predictions are made about the potential end of tariffs and the implications of deregulation and tax breaks under Trump. The episode concludes with a note on the resilience of American exceptionalism in the face of challenges.

TLDR

The episode discusses AI tokens, market reactions to tariffs, and future predictions for American exceptionalism.

Episode

1:09
00:00:00
tokens greater greater than tariffs. Tokens to an AI model is like fuel to a car or electricity to a computer, right?
00:00:07
Microsoft said that in their Q1 they processed 100 trillion tokens, 50 trillion alone in March. And so the
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tokens are really going basically vertical, which is probably because of these reasoning engines which are much
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more sophisticated and require more compute power. It's a bit unfair for Trump, but the market did not just go
00:00:26
down because of tariffs. If you remember, it went down because people freaked out. We're in an AI bubble. AI
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is not really working. What's the ROI on AI? That was maybe a third to a half of
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the problem. And I think what Microsoft said is like capex is going up and everybody has a gigantic shortage of
00:00:43
chips right now. That I know for sure from all of our private companies, public companies, there's a shortage of
00:00:48
chip, a shortage of compute power. Look at the next year or two. At some point tariffs goes away. Trump makes this big
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deal with deregulation. and the tax breaks sort of cancel out the tariffs. We move on and what are we left with?
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We're left with tokens. All these people that say, "Oh, this is the end of American exceptionalism." I almost
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wanted to say, "No, you guys are wrong. And this is the beginning.

Episode Highlights

  • AI Bubble Discussion
    Exploring the current state of AI and its implications for the market.
    “We're in an AI bubble.”
    @ 00m 28s
    May 10, 2025
  • Chip Shortage Impact
    The ongoing shortage of chips and compute power is affecting the industry.
    “There's a shortage of chip, a shortage of compute power.”
    @ 00m 43s
    May 10, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • What's the ROI on AI?
    Billionaire Investor's Bull Case for the Economy: Tokens Over Tariffs
  • We're in an AI bubble.
    Billionaire Investor's Bull Case for the Economy: Tokens Over Tariffs
  • No, you guys are wrong. And this is the beginning.
    Billionaire Investor's Bull Case for the Economy: Tokens Over Tariffs

Key Moments

  • AI Bubble00:28
  • Chip Shortage00:43
  • American Exceptionalism01:04