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Chamath: Tesla and Google are best positioned to win AI because they are building the full-stack

June 24, 2025 / 01:05

This episode discusses predictions for the AI landscape in five years, focusing on Tesla and Google as frontrunners. Key topics include Tesla's vision models, Google's Gemini family of models, and their respective technological advancements.

Shimoth argues that Tesla is the leading contender for the AI prize due to its vertically integrated stack and advanced vision models. He highlights the potential of Tesla's XAI and Dojo systems, which could revolutionize physical AI interactions.

Google is positioned as a strong second, with its Gemini models expected to significantly impact industries, particularly Hollywood. Shimoth emphasizes Google's technological capabilities, including the TPU and quantum integration, as well as its vast user base.

TLDR

Shimoth predicts Tesla and Google will lead AI advancements in five years.

Episode

1:05
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the game here is who wins the AI prize five years from now shimoth who's your number one and number two tesla's one
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and Google's two and the reason is because they are the closest to having that vertically integrated stack that I
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spoke about i think that Tesla has the best vision models now with XAI they'll have one of the best LLMs and reasoning
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models and they'll be able to eventually stick that on Dojo and then all of that
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will be in all of the physical AI that you will interact with in your daily life whether it's a robot or whether
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it's a car or whether it's a robo taxi so that's number one and then number two for many of the same reasons I think
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Google because you'll have the Gemini family of models which just absolutely kickass like V3 which we haven't really
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spoke about is going to destroy Hollywood in the next year like Hollywood is done I think but they're
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landing model after model they have the TPU and the next generation TPU I think is exceptional they're baking quantum
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and then they have an entire funnel of billions of people that they can direct experiences to so Tesla 1 Google

Episode Highlights

  • Tesla vs Google in AI
    A deep dive into the competition between Tesla and Google for AI supremacy.
    “Tesla has the best vision models now with XAI.”
    @ 00m 16s
    June 24, 2025
  • The End of Hollywood?
    A shocking claim about the future of the entertainment industry.
    “V3 is going to destroy Hollywood in the next year.”
    @ 00m 44s
    June 24, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • Hollywood is done, I think.
    Chamath: Tesla and Google are best positioned to win AI because they are building the full-stack

Key Moments

  • Tesla's Vision00:16
  • Google's Power00:38
  • Hollywood's Decline00:49