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J-Cal: NYT v. OpenAI could change EVERYTHING for content creators

February 16, 2025 / 00:43

This episode discusses the implications of the recent Thompson Reuters AI copyright case, the potential impact on OpenAI's lawsuit with the New York Times, and the future of content licensing.

The conversation highlights how the ruling could affect AI companies in the U.S., with a focus on the possibility that OpenAI might face significant losses in its legal battle against the New York Times.

Key points include the speculation that the New York Times could benefit financially from licensing agreements with language models, potentially earning more than from traditional advertising or subscriptions.

The discussion emphasizes the potential resurgence of the content industry as a result of these legal developments, suggesting a shift in revenue models for content creators.

TLDR

Thompson Reuters' AI copyright win may reshape content licensing and impact OpenAI's lawsuit with the New York Times.

Episode

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Thompson Reuters just won the first major US AI copyright case this has huge implications for AI companies here in
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the United States I think that there is a nonzero chance it might be 5 or 10% that opening eye is going to lose the
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New York Times lawsuit and they're going to lose it hard I think the New York Times realizes this is their
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Payday the settlement might be that these language models especially the closed ones are going to have to pay
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some percentage of their revenue to the content holders and this could make the content industry have a massive
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Resurgence I think the New York Times will make more money from licenses from llms than they will make from
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advertising or subscriptions eventually this will renew the model

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Episode Highlights

  • New York Times Lawsuit Stakes
    The New York Times faces a critical lawsuit that could reshape revenue models.
    “They’re going to lose it hard.”
    @ 00m 12s
    February 16, 2025
  • Potential Revenue Shift for NYT
    The New York Times may earn more from licenses than from ads or subscriptions.
    “They will make more money from licenses than from advertising.”
    @ 00m 36s
    February 16, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • A nonzero chance it might be 5 or 10%!
    J-Cal: NYT v. OpenAI could change EVERYTHING for content creators
  • This is their payday!
    J-Cal: NYT v. OpenAI could change EVERYTHING for content creators
  • This could make the content industry have a massive resurgence.
    J-Cal: NYT v. OpenAI could change EVERYTHING for content creators

Key Moments

  • Revenue model shift00:36