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Look, I believe in the fierce independence of our educational institutions and I worry that if we are
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swaying in one direction or another based on who is in office, then we don't have the trust of the American people.
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And I think we failed in some ways to show that we could self-regulate and do that ourselves. But the goal in my mind
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is to get back to a place where it's clear that universities aren't political organizations, aren't taking a position,
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that we are focused on bringing the best and brightest to go out and contribute to our democracy and we can do that
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ourselves. Why have we been losing trust and confidence to grossly oversimplify its
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cost, its career and its culture? The cost thing came up, you know, are the career opportunities there? and by
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culture it's sort of have things got too progressive or not a tolerant enough of
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viewpoint diversity. Those are all reasonable things to talk about. The questions that are being asked under
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this administration and even before that many of them it's like yeah we need to be more reflective. I think there's too
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little viewpoint diversity.