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Spencer Pratt, welcome to the All-In podcast. >> Thank you for having me. >> You had an unbelievable debate
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performance the other night. I have so many friends that were texting and people obviously were tweeting about it.
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Let's start with that. How are you feeling after the debate? >> I just wish it had been like 2 hours or
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3 hours because the list of their failures that we didn't even get to touch on, it's unbelievable. So, it was
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the most fun I've had in years because what people don't realize is they're
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pathological liars. So when somebody gets to be on the stage with only facts and the truth, that's why there's this
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incredible response to because everybody that always watches these lying politicians, they know they're lying and
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nobody gets to yell, "They're lying." But it was very hard to be respectful
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because all the lovely Democrat moms that love me, that want to keep supporting me, they asked me to please
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stay calm, cool, and collected. So the whole time I was doing my best behavior to not interrupt the lying, which if I
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hadn't been tasked with that mission, I would have been like, "Liar, liar." But
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window is open at axon.ai/allin. >> A lot of people said they weren't expecting such a great performance. Like
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you were so well prepped, so well verssed on a lot of the facts on the actions you were going to take. How did
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you get ready for the debate? Did you do work to get after this? Well, thankfully
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people argue with me all day long in every single media hit that I've done for months because they don't want me to
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get into the machine. So, every interview I do, unlike these politicians, it's opposition. It's
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arguing, arguing, arguing. When these, you know, Mayor Bass or Councilwoman Ramen talk to the media, they can just
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lie and then the media people go, "Oh, thank you. Thank you, Mayor Bass. Thank
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you, Councilman." If I say anything, I got to have who was there, what they
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were wearing, what they had for breakfast. I have to have my information so factbased and be bulletproof to beat
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this machine that it's I debate. All I do is debate people all day long. >> You're held to a higher standard.
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>> Exactly. Challenged all day >> and all I live in is facts and the
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truth. And so I called my lawyer who's representing me in the case against the
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city and the state and LAWP, one of the most famous lawyers in the world. I said
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I said, "Peter, how do you stay so calm when you're arguing with these liars?"
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And he said, "Spencer, I always have the truth." I was like, "Oo." I was like,
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"Okay, I got that." Good strategy. >> Yeah. So that was a great >> just message I took into that. Can we
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for people that don't know your story and I want to just give you a couple minutes to tell it. Let's go back to the
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fires. Where were you and where was your family, your wife, your kids? Where were
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you guys when these fires kicked off and how did you end up evacuating? And what
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was that evening like? >> Well, let's even rewind before the fires. It just shows you that our
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emergency situation is not the level it needs to be because I didn't even know
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that there was this crazy wind weather event. My son had had pneumonia. So, I was up every night checking his
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temperature and I'm on my phone a lot. I'm a phone person and I didn't even
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know that this was extra dangerous, dry weather. So, that just shows you if you rewind, we weren't even informed at the
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level you clearly we should have been. So, the morning of January 7th, I was doing my normal routine, making my
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espresso, about to dance to Taylor Swift, Look What You Made Me Do on Snapchat, which I've done since the
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Reputation album dropped. And all a sudden, I see our nanny running down the street. She's comes in with our
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2-year-old at the time. She's like, "The workers up the street said there's a
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fire on the hill." Again, this is not crazy. Like, Mayor Bass's like, "We
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never knew, but we're well aware fires happen. There had just been the Getty
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fire that everyone ran out of their houses for." >> I grew up in LA. >> I've been through the fires. They've
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been going on for 30 years. I mean, >> three weeks before all my friends fought
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a fire in Malibu. episode. I was even planning on starting my own fire brigade like my friends had and I was talking to
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Heidi like we need to get a hose, we need to get a truck. And so I was well aware of fires no matter what anybody
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says. This isn't a shock. We also know about Santa Ana winds. So I run up the
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hill where we hike every day for the last nine years. And I see the smoke, you know, coming from like the Highlands
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area, which is where Loachman, which we now know the fire was really from seven days earlier and it had been smoldering
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for a week. And I see the smoke. I FaceTime my wife. I was like, "Yeah, maybe pack go down to my parents house
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just to be safe." Because my parents live in the Palisades. I grew up in the
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Palisades. It's the opposite side of where we are. We're at the top of the
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hill next to the state park there by the bluffs, next to the ocean. You would think that'd be safe. So she loads up
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just diapers, kids clothes, and goes to my mom's house. I stay up there, you
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know, facetiming every local, what's going on very confident because I assume
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I've been paying I don't have any money because all my money goes to taxes. So I
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assume all these tax money is firefighters are coming. Got to be going somewhere. It's going somewhere. You
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know, I was very naive. And I also live next door again in the debate when Mayor
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Bass was like he's lying or that's not true. There was only one reservoir that
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was empty. Ma'am, Mayor Bass, I live next to the one you don't know existed,
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the Palisades reservoir. 5 million gallons next door to my house that the fire department would do almost, not
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weekly, but bi-weekly drills. They would connect up there. They would make me move cars if they needed to to bring the
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hoses. I was always saying to my wife, "Well, this is annoying, but gosh, we're
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set. They have a thing where the helicopter could dip in there." not the San Andreas reservoir that she was
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referencing that she lied about and said was for drinking water which obviously if you Google LA Times will show you
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when it was made it was for wildfire protection that's why it has sistns that's why it has helicopter dip sites
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because it's for wildfire so I was very confident I have a video of myself filming can't wait till the helicopters
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get here not realizing that they drain that Janice Quinion the LA DWP drain that reservoir in June of 2024. I must
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have been out at Awan when they were emptying it or whatever. So I was very confident in 2025
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in Pacific Palisades that pays probably almost what a quarter of the taxes for the whole city. I would guess at this
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point they are not letting the entire town burn to the ground. So I didn't pack anything. I didn't you know prepare
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for our house to burn down. I call the fire department directly because I have their number. I say, "Hey, we just see
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one truck up here cuz you know if the fire comes around, there's just this one
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place of dead brush and if you put water on it, you know, it won't come and hit
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all these houses." And they said, "We have no assets available." I'm like,
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"Whoa, that was scary." So then my dad comes up, you know, and we got the hose
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and he's hosing a hillside and finally I'm like, "Dad, let's get out of here.
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You know, firefighters are probably coming." So, >> and your wife and kids are gone at this
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point. >> They're at my dad's house, which >> ends up now the fires come from Tesco
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Canyon and it's crossed over. So, my older sister calls like, "What are your
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kids doing there? They better get out of there." I'm like, "What is happening?"
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So, now I'm, >> you know, what? This is insane. It's like a bad movie.
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>> And I never heard any sirens. People like real locals will tell you if you
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talk to me, there was no sirens. >> Yeah. I've heard this from a lot of
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friends in the past. So that was the if I had heard sirens I would have like started packing things
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maybe stayed but you don't feel scared if you don't hear sirens. There's no
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sheriffs or LAPD or any emergency vehicles coming up on the street you know everybody get out of the you know
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like in a movie. There was no movie stuff and you know so you always think everything's like a movie but nothing
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was like a movie. So then I I stay till the fire comes down the hill at 5 6:00 at night. Again, when she was talking
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about this wind, Mayor Bass, I'm standing at the top of the palisades. I connect to the state park. There was no
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scary winds. It did not go past 40 miles per hour and it's now been, you know,
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even CBS did a great debunk post yesterday, CBS News, with a journalist that was up there that I was correct and
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I wasn't lying in the debate >> and there were planes flying. >> Yeah. It moved. It was windy, but it
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wasn't. >> So, I talked to the chief Bobby Garcia at the US Forest Service about what he
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thought went sideways the day of, you know, we don't know because the afteraction report has been edited
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multiple times by Mayor Bass, which she denies, but the LA Times stands by their
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reporting. And he said the initial fire wasn't made skinny. You're supposed to
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attack the fire on both sides. And that did not happen because, ready for this? You know what Mayor Bass brought up?
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like, "Oh, there was no planes, no mayor." Bass, you never called in fixed
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air wing support. She never did. You know why? She was in Africa. She was in Africa.
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>> And you know who was supposed to do it? Her deputy mayor, but he was on house
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arrest. So LA city never even called in fixed air wing support to drop water. Thankfully, LA County Calire showed up
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and the US Forest Service. But that's how out of the loop Mayor Bass was on this.
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>> So when did you find out your house was gone? I watched it burn on my first on
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my security cameras. I watched my son's bed burn in the shape of a heart, which
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is the most spiritual crazy like shape of a heart coming through the bottom of his bed. And then I watched each room
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until >> you're watching on the cameras >> on my phone in gridlock traffic on like
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where the 405 like where the 10 goes to the 405 that one ramp. I'm just stuck in
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traffic watching it. But thank God as I'm watching it, I can't reach my dad
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who I'm thinking is dying trying to save his house on the bluffs. And I'm calling
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911. I've been trying to get these audio calls to just post the level and they
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say they don't have him. But I'm calling 911 to find out if my dad is okay, if he
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tripped, if So even though I'm watching my house burn down, I can't reach my
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dad. So that's taking away the material >> connection. I'm like, my dad cared more
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to me than my house burning. So I get on 911. They're like, "What's the address?"
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Like, "Oh, no emergency personnel can go there." >> My dad lives on the bluffs. There's like
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>> So you're like losing your mind at that point. >> There's 12 ways to get to my parents
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house. >> So this idea that there's no emergency personnel and I'm telling them my dad
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could be burning up. So these 12 people that did burn alive, I know firsthand if
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one of their family members or relatives or neighbors was calling 911, they were
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told no emergency personnel can go help them. So, thank God my dad obviously lived and he got out and I was like,
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"Dad, could you get out?" He's like, "Yeah, it was I drove all you could
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drive anywhere." So, they didn't even brutal. So, in the aftermath, this hits
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you, must have hollowed you, wrecked you. How was the next couple of weeks kind of trying to put everything back
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together? And at what point were you like, man, I'm gonna try and figure this out? Like,
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was it an immediate call to action for you or was there a period of time there where you were trying to put everything
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together? So my wife and I when we were very successful in 2009, we spent millions of dollars on her pop music
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album with all the most famous music producers and writers in the world, but it was a it we didn't have the money to
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promote it. It just nobody ever heard it, but we did that. The 15-year anniversary of that album happened to be
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January 10th. The house burned down January 7th. So when I have zero money now because everything I ever put into
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was in this house for my sons. All everything I own was in this house. I'm like, "Oh my god, we have no money.
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We're done." I'm getting emails because January 10th is this anniversary date,
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15 years of her album. So I go on TikTok Live and I say, "Anybody please, you
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know, I have no money right now. Our house just burned down. Please stream my wife's album, buy it, and thank God for
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Planet Earth getting behind me. I think maybe 12 countries, put it number one. Everyone streamed it. It was the first
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time an album from 15 years went to number one on Billboard charts. So, that was taking me out of the the dark
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>> trauma cuz I'm focusing on right away pivoting into like we're going to
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rebuild. And I was naive to think streaming music you could get a house back, you know? Thank god I did make
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like $150,000, but if this was 2006, we would have made millions of dollars. So,
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it took my mind off it. Obviously, my wife is trying to get our kids into new schools. She's not even connecting to
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this. This is so positive, honey. Everyone's supporting you. So, when that wears down and I realize, oh my god,
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this is not enough money to build anything. We're we were stuck with California Fair Plan because we were
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dropped by farmers after paying for eight years and we have no money to rebuild. And I start questioning like
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why did our house burn down? It shouldn't have burned down. And I call up my friend who I just was at a
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groomsman in his wedding and his dad had just fought Edison in the in the campfire
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maybe. I'm pretty sure it was campfire at Paradise and he beat Edison. So I call him I was like, "Can you represent
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me? I want to sue the city. I want to sue the state. I want to sue L. >> So you're a fighter. You go after it.
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>> I'm just done. Case case. >> Fast forward a little bit. 5,000 homes
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burnt. >> 7,000. >> 7,000 structures. Yeah. 7,000 homes. Whatever it is. Why are you the guy that
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comes out of the fire and says, "I'm going to fight and I'm going to do
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something about it and I'm going to change it." >> Well, thankfully I had this experience
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of already being like a hated media personality. When you put yourself out there, especially when you're fighting
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machines like Gavin Newsome and his social team and they're calling you a conspiracy theory and the LA Times is
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calling you conspiracy theory because they're saying this is climate change.
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There's nothing that could happen. Well, guess what? The day of the debate, the
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judges overruled the appeal by the state and the city of LA. Guess why? Because of the negligence that caused the palace
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fire. It's moving forward. Discoveries open. So this idea that I was this conspiracy theory climate change wind
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guy that a normal person would have, oh my god, I'm being attacked by the governor of California on social media.
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Most people back down. You burn my house down. You burn my parents out. >> You've been through it. You've been in
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the public. You've been a fighter in public. You've got this character that
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allows you to kind of stand up. You you you have this capacity and you have a bit of a platform going into it.
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>> So it was on Yeah. And once I got the truth, all the LFD whistleblowers were
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coming to me telling me that they were told to leave the smoldering lockman fire on January 1st. They told me that
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Mayor Bass was fighting the battalion chief who's editing the all they're
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editing the afteraction report. Obstruction of justice. They're telling me that the chief fought her for that 17
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million and warned her that Angelinos would not be safe. So I'm getting all this information so I don't feel like
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just this fringe social media voice. Man, I'm not crazy. >> Yeah. >> So, you fast forward, the campaign's up
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and running now. You have >> Well, let's rewind. So, when I see that no one's running against her, I reach
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out to Rick Caruso. I call him. I say, "Are you going to run after Mayor Bass
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cuz she's going to guaranteed win June 2nd, 51%. Totally. And I cannot accept
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this as a human being at this point." And I call him and he says, "Go after
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Bass." Implying he's not going after Bass. And so, game on. No one else
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stepping up. He told you to do it. >> Yes. But I was already doing it. But if
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he was going to do it, >> obviously I wasn't going to go against >> Totally.
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>> Yeah. I was like, "Okay, are you going to do it?" And he said, "Go after."
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>> So, how's the campaign going after this debate this week? And I want to talk
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about the campaign ads because the ads have almost elevated you to what I am hearing from a lot of people is almost
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like a historic campaign. The ads are cutting through in a way that people have never seen before. Are those your
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ads or are they being produced by a third party and put out there? Because I've heard from some folks, there's a
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guy Charlie Curran that might be involved or other folks that that might be separate from your campaign that are
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putting these out there. They're breaking through the mold that everyone's like, "This isn't a political
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campaign. This is almost emotional. It's a movement. People want to like get
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behind you and they don't even live in LA." So, the ad that blew up crazy is
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when I showed Bass's house, Nitia Ramen's million-dollar mansion, multi-million dollar, and then my
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Airstream. That one broke every ad record in history. That is, if it has my name on it, it's legally mine. Anything
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like these incredible grassroots ads, but I don't put my name on it, it's
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legally not mine. >> So, there are people out there doing these ads, not in your campaign,
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>> correct? >> That are creating this movement. Correct. Because people feel the common
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sense. >> They feel the emote. Totally. It's connecting. >> I keep trying to tell everyone that, you
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know, they try to put me in a box. I didn't run for to be a political party.
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I didn't run to be a politician. I ran because I experienced what city leadership failure at the ultimate level
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is. That's why I stepped up. That's what cuts through. So the media and everyone
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wants to jump on and be like, "Oh, Spencer is our guy." No. I'm the
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citizen. I'm the angry taxpayer. You can be a Democrat and love me. You can be a
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Republican and love me. The only people that don't love me are communists and
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socialists and I don't want them to love me. >> You know, there was a saying from John
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Adams 1776 where he said, "Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private
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virtue," implying that citizenship involves sacrificing your personal interest for the greater public good.
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And Thomas Jefferson also spoke at length about taking a turn providing civic duty. Everyone has a civic
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responsibility to support society at large, but if you're going to go into government, if you're going to go into
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politics, you do a tour of duty. It's not a career. It was never meant to be a
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career. And it's almost like the local, the state, and the national level. There's an entire industry of people
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that have built a career in politics. And then you come along, I would think Donald Trump's come along. He's almost
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like another one of these enigmas that came out that people it resonated with people that you're actually standing up
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and saying I'm the guy who's on the other side of the problem with all of
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this and this is why this needs to change. It seems to be creating a movement. >> Yeah. I feel like I connect more with
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Cenitis. This guy that was a farmer and >> I actually have Citus written down right
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now. I was I was I was going to mention I'm like oh it's too esoteric. >> Oh no. That's who I connect to because
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I'm like this guy went and fought this battle. They wanted to give him all the
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power and he's like no I want to go back to my family and I keep initially when I
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ran I would say I want to do my four years and then go back. I realize I need to do the eight years. Lock this in. Get
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LA the number one city in the world. Then I can go back to my family. So I'm
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prepared to do the eight. That's my tour of duty. And when people say, "Oh, this
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is your house, this airirst." I go, "No, that's my forward operating base because
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this is a battle against good and evil. They let seven people die in the street every day with our billions of tax
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dollars and they say they need no new beds." It's a drug problem. 90% of these
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people are drug addicts. We need to get these people mandatory treatment. Then we can get them beds and also they don't
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have to have a bed in on the west side or next to people's houses or in San Pedro and right next to schools. They
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can have beds in facilities that we built out. My friend Matt Hes has a incredible facility in Bentonville. He
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built for veterans. I've been talking with him where he has veterans come here. They have all these services. It's
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beautiful. I'm like, how do we build this incredible compound, beautiful possibilities? I guess in Italy, some
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billionaire did this for addicts. That's my vision where we have all this. >> Take care of people the right way.
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>> Exactly. All the services that you'll ever need in a beautiful setting, not in
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a cement brick building that looks like a prison. An addict when they're getting
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off drugs, they don't want to be in a 250 foot little cell, no service. We put
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them out in nature. We're spending $25 billion plus. We have enough money where
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it's actually cheaper to build the most incredible facility out in nature that
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bring these services that provide for these addicts. And you separate people. Everybody doesn't go in one building
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like they do right now. If you're a veteran, you go over here. Single mothers with their kids, families over
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here. Somebody who's just a hardened criminal drug addict, you go over here on this side of the hill. And we need to
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build this out. And we have the money. But guess who doesn't make money if I do
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that? than NOS's that are stealing all of our tax money to increase prom, giving these people pipes, giving them
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needles, giving them the Narcan, letting them OD 14 times a night. >> Let me just hit on the NGO point. What
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is the corruption there? Help people understand because a lot of people think this is like a MAGA talking point. I
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hear this thrown about all the time. People use MAGA as a term to dismiss when someone says something that is
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factually jarring to you. I've noticed this on like someone comes along and they point out something and it's like
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oh that's a MAGA talking point as a way of just dismissing it instead of actually listening to what the person is
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saying. Can you explain what goes on with these NOS's like how do NOS's create a system that the more we spend
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and in the last 10 years city of Los Angeles I think has increased homeless spending by 10x and the homeless
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population has doubled and clearly it's gotten a lot worse. Why is that relationship there and what's the role
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that the NOS's actually play in this? And I promise not to call you a MAGA guy
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for telling me. >> Well, first off, when you said homelessness 2x, homelessness 200x, the
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count for homelessness, the when Mayor Bass in the debate was like it's down
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17% from like these are the most cooked numbers. Even the Rand Corporation says what they're saying is 30% increase. But
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they just drive around and they go 1 2 3 4 5 6. They're not going in under these
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encampments and bridges and bushes and unzipping these tents and going into the sewer. So we don't even know the count.
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But let me tell you my first experience with NOS's after the Palestund million raised. Every single person I
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talked to messaging me, no one's getting this money, no one's seeing a dollar. I
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go to Washington. I ask senators to investigate this. We open up the case. Now all a sudden fire aid puts out a
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legal letter to defend themselves in their own legal letter from the law firm. They say several several of these
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NOS's gave directly to fire victims. The list for the 100 million is 200 plus.
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Google sever several it's under 10. So even in their defense they're telling
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you and again I don't believe one of those 10 gave directly. The people that
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they said did like we gave gift cards. Who' you give gift cards to? I don't you
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don't think one fire victim they're messaging me all day long said hey I got
00:23:23
a $500 gift card. So that's when I learned firsthand that these NGOs's will
00:23:28
take and right in your face a hundred million and just steal it. So, back to it being a maggot thing. The person who
00:23:34
really exposed the details to me is this incredible Democrat mom, Samantha from the Integrity Project. She made her own
00:23:43
little charity nonprofit cuz she's now tapped out of her own money in her neighborhood in Westwood. Her and her
00:23:49
husband, they're both lawyers. And this homeless housing went up on their block.
00:23:54
It was senior citizens. They kic the senior citizens out and it's wineart. They I their audit is late. Let's just
00:24:02
put it that way. They're making hundreds of millions of dollars. This is the best
00:24:05
part. So, the building goes on the market for $11 million. 6 days later, the city with our tax
00:24:13
money gives Weineart 29 million, $28 million to buy this same building that was $11 million. There's nobody to this
00:24:21
day, years later, being housed in this. Weart has developers paying $750 a square foot. When I've talked to
00:24:29
developers and contractors, this should be $250 a square foot. So, they make this money with these developer
00:24:34
kickbacks. They have all these shell companies that, oh, this is our developer has nothing to do. Ready for
00:24:39
one of my favorite parts with that $30 million. Who do you think owns that building in Westwood? Not the taxpayers.
00:24:46
Wineart. So, they This is the Shelby house. I just went to San Pedro, right across the street from a school 600 feet
00:24:54
away, right across this beautiful little nice with old people in this community.
00:24:58
They're kicking senior citizens out of one in San Pedro and they're going to
00:25:01
put hardened criminals. Same thing. This one's like $80 million. So what they do
00:25:06
is they take our tax money, they take grants, they take fake federal and state grants, and they they cook up a little
00:25:13
plan. Here's this. We're going to house 80 people. Yet they don't tell us that
00:25:19
that's $700,000 a person. But everyone's making these people NGOs's get
00:25:24
million-dollar salaries. The people below them get 500. Nobody's actually helping anyone cuz ready for this.
00:25:31
There's no requirement to house people. And then in the state of California,
00:25:34
this is the craziest part with the home key rules. The state won't give the city
00:25:39
a lot of the money if you require the people to be off of drugs. If you say you can't do drugs in this housing, oh
00:25:46
well then you can't get access to this money. >> That's unbelievable. And just to be
00:25:50
clear, what an NGO is legally, it's a 501c3 organization. Anyone can set one
00:25:55
up. Anyone can file the IRS form, create this entity. Once you've created the
00:25:59
entity, you've legally created it. You've got an IRS form. Cost a couple
00:26:03
hundred bucks to do it. Now, theoretically, someone who might want to be, I don't know, a crony or a thief, a
00:26:09
criminal, as you might call them, whatever you want to call them, they can now use this entity that they've created
00:26:15
to basically get access to all this money from governments that aren't necessarily keeping a good eye on the
00:26:22
money. How do the politicians that are allowing it to happen or the bureaucrats in the government that are allowing that
00:26:27
to happen, how do they benefit? Because why would they do this? Why would they let this money flow out to these NOS's
00:26:32
in a way that's clearly not in the taxpayers's best interest? >> Well, you can go the conspiracy route or
00:26:37
you can just go look at all these things we're doing. You So, there's two ways to
00:26:42
look at it. They get to say, "Oh, we have this housing and this services."
00:26:47
These people just bring them this easy out like they're trying to fix something
00:26:51
while still looking good like, "Oh, that's this NGO. Oh, they oh, criminal.
00:26:57
They got caught." So then you go conspiracy and you could say, well, are these people helping campaigns? Are they
00:27:04
putting do they have packs? So there's money going are they helping? So that's
00:27:07
more conspira that's fringe, but in just the sense it's an easy way out. Oh,
00:27:11
we're we're solving this. We're working on this. Two ways you can look at it. I
00:27:16
think they're all criminals. Thankfully, I've talked to the Justice Department
00:27:19
sources and city officials are going to go down. >> They are complicit. Here's the here's
00:27:26
the hard part about catching these people. They're literally taking money with poker chips, goods and services.
00:27:33
Criminals are smart now. They're not just saying, "Zell me the money, right?"
00:27:37
>> But from my sources, we are going to see actual city officials go down. Not quick
00:27:43
enough because they got to frame these people up. But again, how does Spencer stop this when he's mayor? I've met with
00:27:49
the criminal investigation team at the IRS six times. First week in office, you bring all of them in. We audit every
00:27:56
NGO, every document that hasn't been shredded. Now, some people insiders at city hall have told me, you know,
00:28:02
they're shredding these documents. I have more faith in the my criminal investigation team. They'll be able to
00:28:06
figure out without the documents, even if they're shredded. But that's what's
00:28:09
happening. They're shredding the documents. >> So, let me ask Karen Bass. A lot of
00:28:14
people you would assume would feel like she failed the city with the fire. Why is she still able to stay in office? And
00:28:21
why is she in the lead in the polls for running for mayor? Why are people still voting for her?
00:28:25
>> She's the lowest in the history of the polls of an incumbent. So she has 20%.
00:28:29
So 80% of LA do not believe that. So the polls are confusing. She's the worst
00:28:36
record in the history of the city. So 80% of people do not think she's doing a
00:28:40
good job. 20% is crazy bad. That's why Councilwoman Ramen jumped in the race
00:28:45
one hour before the closing because she saw I was going to beat Mayor Bass and her DSA team. For people that don't
00:28:50
know, Democratic Socialist America that she co-governs with as a as a city council member, they were like, "Get in.
00:28:57
You can be the fake Democrat and Spencer will take out Bass and then you'll get
00:29:02
in." She endorsed Mayor Bass two weeks before she jumped into the race. They
00:29:06
worked together on all these things. Mayor Bass door knocked to get Councilwoman Ramen, who was about to
00:29:12
lose her counciloman seat. She door knocked with her to get her in and backed her. though. Nobody backs Mayor
00:29:18
Bass and any of the media that's trapped in this these lies, they are on. It's
00:29:24
not Mayor Bass's fault. It was high winds. It's an unprecedented disaster.
00:29:30
It's not true. It's precedent. We had the Bair fire. Mayor Bass was alive for
00:29:34
We had the Mandaville Canyon fire Mayor Bass was alive for. Not unprecedented. So, the polls mean nothing. Everyone
00:29:42
that's voting for me is not taking a spam call. First off, they're not talking to a stranger on the street cuz
00:29:48
they already feel so unsafe. They're not letting a rando approach them. Period.
00:29:52
So, >> you know, it's interesting. Both candidates, Ramen and Bass are I I don't know if Bass is
00:29:59
selfdeclared socialist, but obviously she spent time with Castro's organization in Cuba. She
00:30:06
>> So, she's a Vener Ramos brigade member. She spent 20 times going to Cuba. So
00:30:11
when they say Spencer doesn't have any experience, look, he was a reality star
00:30:15
in Swing. No, I wasn't training with terrorists that would later bomb the capital. That's who Mayor Bass is, who
00:30:21
only denounced anything communist when they were trying to make her the vice president.
00:30:26
>> But my point is, we have like a self-declared socialist mayor in Seattle
00:30:29
and now in New York. What is going on in cities that people are standing up and raising their hand or filing a ballot
00:30:36
saying, "I want a socialist to be my mayor." And now we're seeing this kind
00:30:40
of emerge on a national basis. I've talked about this a lot. I got my own perspective on it. But like what do you
00:30:45
think is going on with the people on the street as you meet with people, as you get to talk to them? Why do they want
00:30:50
that persona? Why do they want that policy, the socialist policy? >> I don't even think they're aware of it.
00:30:56
I think we have such tribal politics that that people that are against me just think, "Oh, he's not with us. It's
00:31:03
so gang gang." that they don't even realize who they're with and what these
00:31:08
people represent. They just think, "Oh, it's not that group." And that's the
00:31:12
problem when you nationalize politics. We should be a city. We should be all together making sure the streets are
00:31:19
safe. The lights are on. There's no potholes. The sidewalks are there. It's
00:31:24
that basic. But we've gotten to this nationalized politics where they don't
00:31:28
even care who. They just think, "Oh, they're not that person. They're not
00:31:31
connected to that party." So, also they tell these people, "We're going to make
00:31:35
things more affordable. We're going to give you free money." This idea that
00:31:39
that works. I had this guy Rafa, he manages a a bunch of the Dodgers. He's Venezuela. And he came up to me at an
00:31:46
event recently. He's like, I felt like I was in a scene in Braveheart. It was so
00:31:49
intense. It's like William Wallace in my face. Big Venezuela dude. And he's like,
00:31:52
"I fled Venezuela because of socialism. And I fought everything for my family
00:31:56
and I will not let my kids have this socialism in LA. I know what h" And I was like, "I know, bro. we're good.
00:32:03
Like, join the team. You're with me. Let's go door knock. But people who know
00:32:07
what these this idea of giving you money, giving it does not work. It's this fake lie. What people forget is
00:32:15
they can't lower the cost of goods. The only thing you can do to make things
00:32:18
more affordable as mayor, which I will be able to do, is put more money in people's pockets. We need to put more
00:32:24
revenue in the city. We're over here. They're always asking me, "How are you
00:32:27
going to balance this budget, Spencer? There's going to be no money to do us."
00:32:30
We're the We should be the number one city in the world. We should have money
00:32:33
shooting out of ATMs. We're Los Angeles. There will be plenty of money when we
00:32:37
let the systems work. When we let business work. How can you let business work if you have drug addicts going
00:32:42
number two and number one in front of every cafe? We lost over a 100 restaurants in LA. Not cuz they weren't
00:32:48
good food, because you have drug addicts scaring people to go out. That's why
00:32:52
they're Uber Eatsing. They're doing door dash. I talked to a mom the other day
00:32:57
who works in downtown as a lawyer. I know her because of her friend, her kids are my friend's kids. She said,
00:33:02
"Spencer, we're not allowed to leave the office building. Our food has to be
00:33:07
delivered in." That's why restaurants are closing around downtown LA because
00:33:11
the workers that are still trying to work can't go outside of their buildings
00:33:14
because it's unsafe. The number one thing in a functioning city that we don't have is safety. If you don't have
00:33:21
a safe city, and they'll tell you, Mayor Bass will tell you, Councilwoman Ramen,
00:33:25
crime's down. They'll she'll say the murder rate's down. Well, that's a
00:33:29
national trend. Please don't try to take credit for that. But crime's down
00:33:32
because people have given up calling 911. You I talked to a guy today at lunch. He said he watched a lady the
00:33:39
other day on Wilshire Boulevard right in front of the federal building, the FBI building. This nice Latino lady get
00:33:45
punched in the chest by a crazy drug addict. He pulled over his car, tried to like be a Batman hero, jumped out. He's
00:33:51
like, "Stop that." The ladies were so used to like, "Thank you." They get on
00:33:54
the bus and go. He watches this guy get a PVC pipe, start banging on cars. He calls 911 and he's like, they just act
00:34:02
like it's no big deal. It's just normal LA. Finally, he starts ripping a bike
00:34:06
off of the like off of a bus. He calls 911. He's like, he's ripping the bike.
00:34:11
No big deal. Now, the guy's coming at him. He says he's coming after me and
00:34:15
they're like, "Okay, somebody's coming. Police come." He's like, "A rest this
00:34:19
guy." Like, well, nobody's here and there's no witnesses. He's like, "Arest
00:34:23
this guy." He's arguing with the cops. Every cop I talk to wants to enforce a
00:34:27
law, but they can't because the powers behind them. They're not taking any of
00:34:32
these citations ready cuz it's culturally insensitive to sight and ticket someone without an address.
00:34:38
That's why the dogs are being abused, tortured, mutilated, raped on the side
00:34:42
of streets. People are filming this. They know what's happening. But even uh
00:34:46
Stacy Danes or whatever name Stacy Danes was head of the animal control or whatever animal services, she said, "Oh,
00:34:53
we can't." The city mayor's office said, "Culturally insensitive, don't. We can't
00:34:57
go after people without addresses." >> Dude, that's unbelievable. Makes me so
00:35:00
angry. >> I That's the problem. They keep on calling me the angry white guy. They
00:35:05
don't get every race, every gender, however you identify. If you live in LA and you're paying your taxes, you are
00:35:11
angry. >> But most people don't see it is the other thing. So like Skid Row, most
00:35:14
people aren't there all the time. We host our all-in summit in downtown LA. It's our last year. We're doing it in
00:35:19
September. It's a really big event, but we're not coming back. So most people I
00:35:23
know like don't get down there. We have people from all over the world, 60 countries come to our event. They
00:35:26
they're like, "What the hell is this place? We can't be down here." When you
00:35:30
see it, you're like, "What?" Well, here's the problem. We keep talking
00:35:33
about Skid Row in LA. This is all over the valley. This is in Westwood. This is in Hollywood. This is everywhere. before
00:35:41
my house burned down in front of Palisades Elementary School across the street, my son's Methodist preschool
00:35:46
where I went to preschool, there was a lady cleaning her private parts in front of kids almost every morning at 7:45
00:35:53
a.m. We'd call LAPD. They'd come and they go, "Ma'am, no more." She'd go walk
00:35:58
down the street and she'd go number two in front of Joe's Barber Shop. So, it
00:36:02
was coming to the Palisades. It's coming everywhere. This is not a When I went to
00:36:06
USC, it was Skid Row. So we we have this issue in LA in in San Francisco where I
00:36:10
live and Mayor Lur came in. I don't know if you followed what he's done. He's an
00:36:13
unbelievable guy. Old friend of mine and done an incredible job. He arrests people. He puts them in jail. The crime
00:36:20
has stopped. Car breakins are down 87% in the city. 87%. You no longer have hordes of people walking into stores
00:36:27
stealing everything, walking out. As soon as you just enforce the law that's
00:36:30
already in place, boom, you're 90% of the way there. Everything kind of It doesn't It doesn't take a miracle,
00:36:36
>> you know? It just takes a will and and a and someone who can actually manage and
00:36:40
organize to get the stuff done. Give them the votes. Get them there. >> So, I met with Victor Coleman who owns
00:36:44
most of these studios, a lot of real estate in LA, and he talked to me about Mayor Lur in San Francisco. He said,
00:36:50
"Spencer, when they tell you you have no experience, you just tell him, Mayor Lur
00:36:54
didn't have any experience running a city." What he did, he's came in and
00:36:56
forced the law. He said, "My portfolio in San Francisco is booming again. My
00:37:00
portfolio in Los Angeles, it's not doing as well, let's say." And he said, "You
00:37:05
just need to force the laws that exist." And a lot of people always say this to
00:37:08
me. They go, "What are you going to do with all these people?" A great quote, a
00:37:12
famous police chief told me, "Once you start putting handcuffs on people, watch
00:37:16
how many people leave." >> 100%. >> This idea that everyone, if you let
00:37:21
everyone do drugs and do whatever they want and let the criminals make the outside asylum and with no guards, if
00:37:28
you let them do that, they're going to do that. But if you So when I'm mayor,
00:37:31
my plan is first three weeks, signs up across the city, no more nakedness, no more drug use, no more robbing, no
00:37:40
worse. >> No more burning dogs in the street, >> no more dog abuse. Very on every sign,
00:37:45
on every bird. So that and we're going to go around. We're going to warn
00:37:48
everybody, hey, got three more weeks of this. Like clock's ticking. Just keep
00:37:52
telling everyone just to so the people that are aware, they're like, oh wow,
00:37:56
there's a new mayor in town. They may start leaving. And then when the three
00:37:59
weeks or maybe we'll even do two weeks, maybe people will want it faster. And
00:38:03
then once we start enforcing the laws, boom, streets will be back. You know who else? I'm gonna bring in the CDC because
00:38:10
there's medieval diseases in these encampments. They're not swabbing these
00:38:15
encampments. They're not swabbing the streets. People are just living in feces
00:38:18
and drug use and dogs burning and bodies. We need these streets cleaned. >> Yeah.
00:38:26
What about the building of the team to execute? You're looking to sit in this
00:38:30
executive role. Have you ever had a role where you've overseen tens of thousands
00:38:33
of employees before? I'm assuming not. I've read your bio, but like how do you
00:38:38
execute? Who do you bring in under you that actually knows how to manage the system, manage the people, deliver the
00:38:45
message? you can form strategy and set objectives and so on, but walk us through how you're actually going to
00:38:51
deliver as mayor operationally when you step in on day one. >> So, the great news about running for
00:38:57
mayor of LA is everyone wants to save LA. Everyone wants LA to be number one. the meetings I'm taking every week now,
00:39:06
the lunches, the brunches, the dinners of beyond successful people that are willing to work for a dollar a year,
00:39:12
pause their companies to come in. People are telling me just with algorithms alone, they have we can 100x the
00:39:21
bureaucracy of the city and building and development. What I'm going to do, there's so many cranes in the city
00:39:26
because we're going to be rebuilding the amount of money. Just last week, I probably met with 10 billionaires that
00:39:33
are ready to come in and build LA up to be the number one city in the world. So,
00:39:38
when they say, "Oh, you have no experience." Well, what I do have is humility. I'm humble. I know I have
00:39:43
never ran the second largest city. I know smart people who have done it. We need to be bringing in the CEOs that
00:39:49
have ran the biggest corporations in the world to come in and work with, you know, because they'll tell you, "No, you
00:39:54
need to know the city at a certain level." You bring those people in, but the people that execute the
00:40:00
multibillion, like they say, they say, "Oh my gosh, Spencer, this is a $15 billion budget." Well, there's people
00:40:06
I'm meeting with that have $50 billion budgets that are going up that go up.
00:40:11
So, these people exist that I will surround myself with. I already have a deputy mayor that I can't say because of
00:40:17
fear of retaliation in the city of LA that will make sure the most important thing we do because all this talk
00:40:23
doesn't work if you don't enforce the law. So, I have a deputy mayor that will
00:40:27
help me enforce the law, and that's the priority. When we enforce the law, now
00:40:30
all these creative ideas on execution work, but if you don't enforce the law,
00:40:36
Mayor Bass could bring in all the same people I'm meeting with, but she won't
00:40:39
enforce the law. Councilwoman Ramen can bring in all the same people that I'm
00:40:42
meeting with. It won't work if you don't enforce the law. No one's putting money
00:40:45
into the city of LA until they know there's a mayor that's going to make
00:40:48
sure the streets are safe for all the moms, the kids, the dads, everyone that just wants to be a normal human being
00:40:55
that just pays their taxes, goes to the park, go to dinner. So until you do that
00:40:59
part, all this who's going to be this is irrelevant. But the list of people is So
00:41:05
again, >> for sure cuz I hear I hear it from a lot of executives I'm friends with, they're
00:41:09
like, man, this message resonates. People want to get involved. They want to step up. Like I said, people not from
00:41:14
LA want to step up. Outside of keeping the streets safe, outside of building a reasonable fire suppression
00:41:21
infrastructure, getting back to basics. What about education? We have young kids. LA USD spends $23,000 per student.
00:41:30
$101,000 average teacher salary. It's number one in the country. But LA USD as
00:41:35
a school district ranks 170th in the state of California. and only 46% of students are meeting or exceeding
00:41:42
standards in English, 37% in math. What is there to do about education in the city to give all of the next generation
00:41:49
the opportunity to progress, to realize their potential, and to not fall into the traps of socialism and communism
00:41:56
because they're despondent and they don't have opportunity in front of them.
00:41:58
How do we get that generation to succeed? Well, for my own experience with my son who was in LA USD and it was
00:42:05
even a charter with PAL. This is supposed to be the best version at all times. Every parent is just trying to
00:42:11
fund raise fundra for books for learning for teach for an extra teacher and it's
00:42:16
like what is going on? If I'm going to spend this much money, I'm going to put
00:42:20
my kid in a private school. How would these schools So, first off, we got to back to auditing. The biggest issue I've
00:42:26
learned with the city of LA, whether it's the school systems, everyone needs
00:42:30
to be audited. Where is all this money going to first off at the fire department, the police department, the
00:42:36
waste of this taxpayer money? So, let's figure first out where the money is going because if it's cost this much for
00:42:43
each student, yet as a dad, I'm trying to always donate, have fundraisers. We
00:42:47
got to we got to track the money. And that's another thing that when we talk
00:42:50
about what's Mayor Pratt, it's accountability and transparency. Every dollar of tax money in the city of LA
00:42:57
needs to be on very easy cliffnotes level dashboards so we can track and get results of where all of our tax money is
00:43:05
going. But back to how we make kids know socialism and communism doesn't work is
00:43:10
we give their parents hope again and we make the parents demand. I have kids I have parents right now that are pulling
00:43:16
their kids out of a school, public school that my kids are in right now because of that messaging. There's no
00:43:21
more pledge of allegiance. There's no more America's, you know, good. We just
00:43:26
need to go back to having pride in being Americans. We've gotten so far off of
00:43:31
just America's awesome because everyone's fighting with political and it's like, oh, American flag is like, I
00:43:37
can't put that up. Like, we need to get back to the basics of where our grandparents were when they were
00:43:42
fighting World War II and had pride in being Americans. But to me, it's the money. Where's the money going? Like if
00:43:51
you want things to be better, we got to stop wasting money. The fire stations that I meet with, they're charging
00:43:56
$250,000 for doors, $50,000 for refrigerators. So I think tracking money is the source of all of this. I have a
00:44:05
buddy, his house burnt down, unfortunately as well. So I was like, I'm going to meet with Spencer Pratt.
00:44:09
Any questions? He said, what about this stupid ass $3 billion expansion of the convention center? My favorite part
00:44:15
about the convention center is like a month ago, less than a month ago, it's
00:44:18
just a dead body in the bushes in front of the convention center. So that the idea that we're going to put billions of
00:44:24
dollars into something that has dead bodies in the bushes in front. Why aren't we putting the billions of
00:44:30
dollars in getting the dead bodies from stopping to be on the streets every day?
00:44:34
But I don't want to say, initially I was like, stop that. But now I'm in this
00:44:38
like LA's got to be the number one city in the world. So maybe we don't need to
00:44:42
use LA money, but let's do private partnership. Who's going to come in with
00:44:46
money to do something right now we can't afford? But I don't want to be the one
00:44:50
now that's like, we don't want to stop building. I actually like the idea of
00:44:54
having a convention center cuz the LA that I'm about to build when I destroy
00:44:58
40 blocks of drugged out zombies that are taking all these empty buildings. So much business and commerce is going to
00:45:04
come in. We're probably going to need that convention center. Currently, there
00:45:08
makes no sense with the current administration. Mayor Bass is elected is the dumbest thing you ever heard. If
00:45:13
Councilwoman Ramen's elect is the dumbest thing, Mayor Pratt goes in and we're putting billions of dollars of
00:45:19
money back in LA. Restaurants are back. We're probably going to need that convention center. So, initially when I
00:45:25
was first fighting this fight, my message was let's get back to LA I grew up in. I was like started taking on this
00:45:31
meeting with billionaires ready to give me $500 million. I met with a billionaire anonymous billionaire that
00:45:37
agreed to be the funar. He said, "My family gave $300 million to New York for
00:45:42
a project. We'll give you $500 million to bring fund back to Los Angeles." I
00:45:47
was like, "Can I tell people about you?" He's like, "No, no, I'll be the
00:45:50
anonymous." This person is for real. So to me, when I hear there's $2 billion,
00:45:55
if I make that convention center a little bit more fun, I have a $500 million now, then we can make it the fun
00:46:01
convention center, and I just I just cut that cost in half. So yes, right now it makes no sense. Have you
00:46:08
met with union leaders? >> No, they all they all back Mayor Bass. So, they're all going to love me because
00:46:14
everyone's going to have more revenue. Everyone's going to have jobs. LA's
00:46:16
going to So, when they're like, "You're not going to win because you don't have
00:46:19
the unions. I don't need the unions to win. I have the moms. I have the animal
00:46:24
lovers. That's more than any union. That's you can't get that endorsement.
00:46:29
Moms across the city of LA. Not moms just in the valley. Not moms just in San Pedro. Not moms in South Central. Not
00:46:36
moms in East LA. Not moms in boil heights, not moms in Eagle. Everywhere moms don't feel safe. The city is
00:46:42
unsafe. No matter what how much crime stats, the feeling and unsafe is resonating. And my message of I will be
00:46:50
the guy that's fighting to get safety back is going to get me elected. And I
00:46:54
keep telling people I'm going to win on June 2nd with 51% of the vote. November
00:46:58
is their fighting for November. I win June 2nd. But the unions obviously people think it's this big issue when
00:47:07
you won't when your city is amazing. >> How are you going to work with them? So
00:47:10
you win on June 2nd. All the union leaders call up your deputy mayor say, "I want a meeting with Mayor Pratt."
00:47:17
They come into your office one at a time. They sit down across a table from you. What's the message?
00:47:22
>> The message is we're going to work with you to make sure you get these benefits
00:47:25
that you want, but they need to make sense right now at our trajectory. We're
00:47:29
gonna get to where what you need to feel comfortable in your city role is great,
00:47:34
but there may be a minute here where we got to tighten things up. I'm gonna find
00:47:38
all these homeless NGO billions that are being laundered, but we need to get real
00:47:42
accounting. Right now, we don't have outside budget advocates that right, we
00:47:47
don't look if we're increasing a union 10% salary even though everybody else in
00:47:52
the private industry isn't getting increased. We need to have a balance. We need it makes sense for all evangelists.
00:47:58
can't have everything just for this small percentage because they're cooking
00:48:01
votes. But don't get me wrong, unions, I'm going to make so much money in this
00:48:05
city that we're going to have plenty of money that you're paid what you're
00:48:08
supposed to be paid. Law enforcement is going to get paid what they're supposed
00:48:11
to get paid. We cannot lose law enforcement because they're getting paid more in Laguna Beach, Newport Beach,
00:48:15
Norwich County. So, we can't risk lose. We're already losing too many law
00:48:20
enforcement. We're losing too many firefighters. So, we cannot make it where they don't want to work. And a lot
00:48:25
of the issues where people see these salaries that are so crazy, it's overtime. But if you don't get the
00:48:30
hiring up to speed, then you have to pay this crazy these salaries in overtime. And even that, these people that do get
00:48:37
paid, these crazy things you read on Google, those top little it's a niche amount of people and they've sacrificed
00:48:43
their family. They're working 32 days. These people are crazy. So they've given
00:48:48
everything they have to be that firefighter or whatever. for that. So again, >> the unions aren't your enemy. You're
00:48:55
going to find a path to working with them. Even though they're not here for you right now, they're worth Mayor Bass.
00:48:59
You're there for them. >> They're still hardworking people. I meet
00:49:01
with I've gone almost I'm going to a lot of fire stations. LFD union for sure
00:49:07
endorses me. They just are scared to do it publicly for retaliation. LAPD for sure, the members all endorse me. I
00:49:16
promise you. the interaction, who's messaging me, who's calling me, who's
00:49:19
texting me, the union power, they, Mayor Bass currently writes their deals and their checks. That's real. I don't judge
00:49:25
them for that. It's the system they're in. But the membership, they they want
00:49:29
to feel safe. Most of the firefighters can't even live in California anymore.
00:49:33
60% of these guys fly in. And I say, "Well, why don't you guys live here?
00:49:37
Like, it's not safe for our families. I want them to move back. I want that tax
00:49:40
money." >> One of the other stories about LA over the last decade or two, you know, I grew
00:49:45
up here. I have a lot of friends who grew up in Hollywood in the industry and it's been gutted. There's no business in
00:49:52
LA anymore. And that's a huge employer for so many Angelinos working in Hollywood and all of the ancillary
00:50:00
supporting industries. Do we rebuild Hollywood in LA? Is Hollywood done because of AI and YouTube and
00:50:06
independent production and studios don't matter anymore? No one does broadcast.
00:50:09
What's the future of Hollywood? Is there a future for Hollywood in LA? And and
00:50:13
what do you do about it? So when I was 20 years old, I sold the first the youngest ever sold the first reality
00:50:20
show to Fox as the youngest executive producer ever. And I sold it to Peter Churn when he was the co-chair of News
00:50:26
Corp. It was with David Foster who's actually hosting my fundraiser on Monday, full circle. Shout out David
00:50:32
Foster, legend. But I called Peter Churn up a few weeks ago. I said, "Mr. Churn,
00:50:38
PDC, how do I save LA? It's one of the smartest human beings on earth." He
00:50:42
said, "Spencer, as mayor, you you're not going to be able to change the bigger
00:50:47
picture of Hollywood. That's more governor, you know, uncap. What you can do to really bring back jobs, bring back
00:50:54
Hollywood, is bring back independent filmmakers, independent production, independent artists. You prioritize the
00:51:02
indies, you could have Hollywood booming in a tier that people didn't see coming.
00:51:07
And all my friends who haven't given up, that are still, cuz I grew up in in LA.
00:51:12
I went to Crossroads. All my friends are creators. They're artists. They're still
00:51:15
fighting. They're not giving up. When I talk to them, they've all doubled down
00:51:19
on the indie route. When I talk to them, they say, "This is what we need to hear.
00:51:23
We want to make this work." And you you work with them. Mayor Bass brags about
00:51:27
like, "Oh, now you can film at the Griffith Conservatory. Instead of 70,000, it's 30." No. When I'm mayor,
00:51:33
I'm going to help you produce these freaking movies. We're going to get We're going to have whole blocks and
00:51:37
we're going to use the restaurants to keep them alive and we're going to use
00:51:41
the crews. We're going to eat out of there. We're going to use all the city
00:51:44
resources to almost be in production with the Indies, but making money together. You know, not like a communist
00:51:50
or socialist, but in bring the city enable, give them the support, get the rid of these fees, the clearance, make
00:51:57
it easy. Right now, like I said in the debate, I talked to producers. If you want to film on the streets of LA, it's
00:52:02
so unsafe. You got to pay gang members off to get We're gonna have it so safe
00:52:06
that an indie crew can pop out with all their cameras and gear and not get stolen. So again, someone like Peter
00:52:12
Churnin, I said, "Peter, when I'm mayor, can I keep calling you?" And he his
00:52:16
exact quote, "I'm always here to make you smarter, Spencer." >> So these are the type of people when
00:52:20
they say, "Oh, you have no experience." These are the people that are going to
00:52:24
make LA number one. >> But that is the future. I mean, everyone is all about independent production. If
00:52:28
you work for a big studio or work for Netflix, you're getting paid cost plus
00:52:32
10%. You're better off producing on your own. There's definitely a flourishing
00:52:36
happening. It's just happening everywhere else. It's not happening in LA. And obviously I've reached out to
00:52:41
David Ellison's team. I've reached out to Ted Sranos. I've reached out to
00:52:44
everyone because I don't just want to be the indie guy. I want to figure out how
00:52:48
I go fight whoever the new governor is. Get uncapped. Get postp production uncapped. Get as nobody should be going
00:52:55
to UK. Nobody should be going to Canada. With the respect these countries, I love
00:52:59
you guys, but we're not sending our filmmakers there anymore. So whatever I can do as a mayor, you know, last the
00:53:04
other night in the debate, they're like, we're going to do it. You guys have had
00:53:06
10 years combined. You haven't done anything. I love fighting these people. I will I've been fighting Sacramento
00:53:13
since my house burned down. I You get me bodyguards to fight these people. Trust
00:53:17
me, we are going to a whole new level of fight. So again, I don't want to not
00:53:22
have studios come back. We have all these empty lots. I would love big productions to come back, but initially
00:53:28
as mayor, I can fight for indies. But don't get me wrong, I want Hollywood to
00:53:32
be top gun three right here. Take off from LAX. Tell me how you address transportation in LA. There's always a
00:53:40
new scheme or a new system being developed. What's your view on what's wrong about transportation in LA? And
00:53:47
how much are we wasting on things that don't really matter that we could recoup
00:53:50
and reinvest elsewhere? What are those kind of priorities for you? >> So, I just went to the new opening of
00:53:55
the Dline today just to to troll to get some yimies to yell at me. And my funniest the funniest part about
00:54:03
transportation to me is it's a beautiful idea when there's no human urine, human
00:54:09
poop on there, a drug addict's butt hanging out. People forget every single person in LA sends me their photos. I'm
00:54:16
now 311. I see what LA looks like. These people go, "How do you know all this
00:54:20
information? My phone, I can't even open it anymore cuz it's just naked drug
00:54:24
addicts. It's the craziest thing you've ever seen." Who cares how many lines
00:54:28
that Metro connects to where it could connect to the moon right now, but if drug addicts are smoking fentanyl next
00:54:34
to your kid, you're not going to the moon on it. So, first off, it's back to
00:54:37
safety. We need these metro, the subway, whatever you want to ride. Bicycles aren't even safe. The yims want more
00:54:45
bicycle. Like, I you couldn't even pay me to get on a bicycle. A drug addict
00:54:48
zombie will hit me with a with a crowbar when I'm riding by. We need to get safety back. And of course, I love these
00:54:54
transportation ideas. I hate sitting in traffic, but I've grown up in LA. I'm
00:54:58
aware of traffic is a part. So, yes, we need this, but we also need the money for it. We need to build LA up. Right
00:55:05
now, I think 15% of the budget goes to the metro if 5% people use it. Again, I feel like if I made it safe, I could
00:55:13
give 15% to use it and we could even that out. We got to make sure that nobody's hopping any turn style. We need
00:55:20
to make sure you're paying to be on it so that it's safe people on it. again.
00:55:24
Back when I clear downtown LA for you can drive for 40 blocks. When I clear all these empty banned buildings that
00:55:31
the drug addicts are burning down and using all our firefighter resources and risking their lives. When we clear that
00:55:36
all out and we use these 3D printing. I I talked to an architect today, one of the most famous architects in the world.
00:55:42
He has a crew of like 12 architects. They're all They already did all these designs for these buildings that nobody
00:55:48
listened to them. They met with Newsome. They met with Bass. Of course, I'm like,
00:55:51
"Let's do it. Set me over the decks. We're going to have LA so beautiful. No
00:55:55
more of these high density SB79 prison-like structures. We need to bring art deco back. All the architects that
00:56:02
moved out of here because it was so hard to build. Takes 8 years. They're going
00:56:06
to be moving back cuz we're going to speed up building. It's not going to
00:56:09
take eight years. We need LA to be the most beautiful architecture in the world. I don't want to go to Venice. I
00:56:15
don't want to go go look at Venice. I want to go to Venice, downtown LA. I'm
00:56:19
going have a canal and then the Yimi people, they can have all their bike lanes going through the sky through
00:56:24
tunnels and things. We need to get creative with LA. >> Can you address the regulatory and
00:56:30
permitting problem with construction and building in the city? As mayor, do you have enough authority to do this? So,
00:56:35
can you talk a little bit about the actions you would take to unleash this kind of wave of building that you want
00:56:41
to see happen that everyone talks about wanting to see happen in LA, but there just seems to be so many layers of
00:56:47
permitting, so many processes, so much approval, but it's statutory. It's
00:56:51
written into the law of the city. Do you have the authority as the mayor to actually be able to go in and address
00:56:57
that and unleash this without getting these folks that are the assembly people and whatnot to work with you? So, I had
00:57:03
a lunch today with he volunteered to be the new head of LA building and safety. I said, "Well, you're the first
00:57:09
volunteer of somebody who does this at the highest level for right now in private business for Los Angeles knows
00:57:16
every we'll add them to the website back to like my team. The goal here is to put
00:57:20
the whole team listing their bios." He said, "Spencer, we could do this so
00:57:25
easily. We can fix all these things. I know all the errors cuz private business is the ones fighting this city all the
00:57:32
time. They know where all the stops. I met with this affordable housing developer Carlos on Monday. He said when
00:57:39
Mayor Bass announced her initiative, she was going to rush it 6 months. He's at 2
00:57:43
and 1/2 years in the permit process. He said Spencer that we can fix this so easy and build beautiful affordable
00:57:51
housing. He said they're getting these tax incentives to build cells for people. Cells. He said because they get
00:57:58
more incentives to put more people in the building. We need to change that. We need to make it where he's saying
00:58:04
twobedroom, a nice two-bedroom, he can do for $250 a square foot versus $750 square foot. These other developers are
00:58:11
using the tax incentives, charging the city, and then putting more bodies in there. So, yes, we can do all this stuff
00:58:17
when we take these people out. Perfect example, my Airstream. It took weeks weeks for LWP to put one wire to my
00:58:27
Airstream from a pole across the street. That's the cut the red tape town. That's
00:58:32
this is the fastest >> operationally you can address that. But all of the permits that are required
00:58:37
design review like AI. I know people don't like AI but you know even Caruso he was trying to with
00:58:44
initially he had this whole thing. He put the money up was steadfast and he offered this AI program to Mayor Bass
00:58:51
certain zoning situations if it meets all this boom you right now there's like
00:58:56
a it's like out of a bad movie some guy comes he's like he misses three and he
00:59:02
has to do like one checkbox he's like oh I'll come back and do that like it's out
00:59:07
of a bad movie they say it's truly and if you go to the nobody's even in these
00:59:11
offices you have to set an appointment you can't just go into these places they
00:59:14
all work remote is maybe co they're still >> yeah they work three days a week don't
00:59:18
they >> we're in crazy land so again all these meetings I keep having with very
00:59:24
successful heads of companies that tell me Spencer when people say you don't
00:59:28
have experience you tell them these are people that have multiple companies I'm
00:59:32
they say I'm never the most experienced person in any of the rooms of my companies but everyone in my company is
00:59:38
the most experienced person in what they need to do in that role and I'm well
00:59:42
aware of I don't know any of this stuff But I know I want LA to be the number
00:59:47
one safest, most beautiful. How do we get there? Who are you? What's your resume? What's your background? Oh, wow.
00:59:54
Okay, come on. Keep in mind Janice Quinionz, who was the CEO of LWP, who drained two reservoirs leading into a
01:00:02
known year of the driest fire weather season, took out the water with no plan, no backups, no tankers. She was getting
01:00:12
paid $750,000 a year plus her benefits. There are people across the United States, running water and power in
01:00:20
functioning cities that we can go recruit and say, "Hey, come to LA. It's
01:00:24
going to be safe and clean and we're going to get you a nice place. You take
01:00:28
over." People want to live in LA. I'm not trying to give people jobs with
01:00:32
respect to Antarctica. Hello. We talent will come here, >> right? There's people all over the world
01:00:38
that are telling me, "Hey, we want to make LA the Silicon Valley of the world.
01:00:44
LA should be the tech center of the world." With respect to San Francisco or
01:00:48
wherever these people are and Marin, I don't even know where they are. Wherever
01:00:52
you guys are, you're coming you're coming to LA. LA is way doper and you're
01:00:57
going to have a beautiful safe place and way more room to build all your tech companies and robots and drones.
01:01:04
Whatever you want to build, we're going to build them. pretty nice up there,
01:01:07
too. But, >> you know, they don't have the they don't have the beach. You're going to be able
01:01:10
to swim without poop in the water. It's going to be incredible. >> Well, I grew up in the valley and you go
01:01:15
down Ventura Boulevard, it's all strip malls. These are all small businesses
01:01:18
that are owned by families. They have been typically for one, two, three generations. Armenian, Persian, Hispanic
01:01:25
populations, folks that grew up in the valley. Small business, I think, is the lifeblood of this city. Like, it's such
01:01:30
an important part of the city. We've never had major corporations that everyone works for. There's a couple of
01:01:35
them, but generally it's a small business town. How much have you looked at the regulatory permitting, all the
01:01:40
nonsense that goes into opening up a nail salon, starting a coffee shop, getting the permits required to open up
01:01:46
a new store, and what can be done there to accelerate, to fasttrack, to enable all these folks, a lot of them first or
01:01:53
second generation immigrants, that want to come here and build, that want to start businesses, that want to have
01:01:58
their own company. How do we get them? Because the complaint is it's just so
01:02:02
faking hard today. It's so expensive. It takes so long. Have you gone through
01:02:06
this and figured out what are the things you can just delete as mayor and what are the things you can just fasttrack as
01:02:12
mayor to make it so much easier for people to start and run small businesses in the city?
01:02:16
>> So my friend in Venice, his his neighbor just bought the local bodega that's been
01:02:22
there forever. And he was telling me they're about to give up. It's been a
01:02:25
year. He said they're not even selling alcohol. There's no food. It was just
01:02:29
going to be this basic bodega. And the list of things that it's taken in a year
01:02:34
is so crazy. They'll make them put in one thing and then they come in and they
01:02:38
say, "Oh, no, actually that it's like a maze. We need to just streamline all
01:02:43
these things." And what I keep learning, whether it's transportation, sanitation,
01:02:48
there's no accountability. People get paid no matter if they're a failure.
01:02:52
It's not resultsbased. >> How many turns? >> Yes. Nobody like if you don't get this
01:02:56
many permits. For instance, somebody called me yesterday. They go why is film LA a nonprofit which like you need they
01:03:02
have to come to set. I was like what do you mean? He's like this should be for a
01:03:05
profit to incentivize bringing production. So they are getting they're actively we don't care. It's this idea
01:03:12
that oh I'm getting paid no matter what. Nobody cares. There's no checks and
01:03:16
balances. Mayor is fine as long as she's driving to go to the airport to go to
01:03:20
Ghana to have a cocktail party. There's nobody that cares, right? Because I met
01:03:25
with this guy Juan from Clean LA who cleans the streets of all from all the trash. He's from Ecuador. He came over
01:03:31
here and he said, "What is this, Spencer? I'm from a third world country.
01:03:34
It's so much more beautiful. I can't live here with my family." So he started
01:03:37
cleaning trash on his own. I said, "Well, Juan, what's going on?" He's
01:03:40
like, "Spencer, nobody cares. They don't care." He says, "I watch these trash
01:03:45
truck things." He said, "They pick up the trash and it just throws it like out
01:03:48
of a meme and it just goes back on the street." He says, "They're sleeping in
01:03:51
the cars. There's no accountability. There's no responsibility." I said,
01:03:54
"Juan, well, when I'm mayor, can I hire you?" He said, "Spencer, I will help run
01:03:58
sanitation." He goes, "It's supposed to be a billion dollars." He goes, "I could
01:04:02
do it for easily 500 million." So, I'm thinking, I just saved $500 million for
01:04:06
taxpayers because Juan cares. And he says, "I'll bring in people that care."
01:04:11
As mayor, you can probably auto stamp a lot of stuff too that today they're just
01:04:15
delegating down to people who take a long time getting things done that probably you don't need to spend a lot
01:04:20
of time looking at. Just auto stamp the bodega license and let them run. You really need to have the guy go in and
01:04:25
figure out where everything is. >> This is back to if it meets these criteria, we need to
01:04:32
time >> like here's the auto green light. >> LA needs to be like annoying how many
01:04:37
cranes we see for the next eight years. It needs to look like we're in China
01:04:41
where they're building these bridges in like two weeks. We need all these cranes. There's no cranes. You can't
01:04:47
even see a crane. My kids probably don't even know what crane looks like. >> If one of the other two candidates win,
01:04:52
what happens to LA? >> Well, I will have to move to Bentonville or I'm done. You know, that's why I'm
01:04:58
fighting. People won't get I want my sons to grow up in LA. You cannot grow up in LA. You're done. You listen to
01:05:06
them in the debate. They're talking about more beds. They don't even They
01:05:11
don't even accept that LA is in a nightmare. Yes, I love LA. It has the potential to be the greatest place on
01:05:19
planet Earth. But we need to acknowledge we are in a scary part right now in LA.
01:05:23
The lights don't work on the street. They don't fix roads within a year. They
01:05:27
have they don't every pothole is breaking everyone's tires. You can't get
01:05:30
311 to fix anything. We don't have enough cops to call 911. There's not enough firefighters. towns burn down.
01:05:38
Bair is going to burn. Manavville Canyon, Sunland to Hunga, Hollywood Hills, all these are going to burn. It's
01:05:44
guaranteed. And like I said in the debate, I'm going to put these dip sites mile from everyone's how they're all
01:05:49
going to connect. They're going to connect to private owners swimming pools. I'm going to work with the
01:05:53
insurance companies so we can bring insurance back to California first LA because we're going to show them the
01:05:58
model because if they have these dip sites for these helicopters, we bring in more of these shinooks that LA County
01:06:04
uses to work with the the fire hawks that we have with LA city and and Calire, we can bring insurance back,
01:06:11
which is the biggest problem right now for people building. We're going to get
01:06:14
rid of this ULA. I know I can't do it myself, but I'm going to fight to make
01:06:18
sure these communist type things don't ever happen to development. so people
01:06:22
can sell their properties, build housing. I'm going to stop letting these tenants being squatters, criminals, make
01:06:30
it so landlords have to pay them 50 grand cash to leave and then they go to it to a new landlord. I'm going to stop
01:06:36
the section 8 scam so that real people that deserve section 8 get it. Veterans, families that need it, not just
01:06:43
drugdeing criminals that are, you know, abusing the system with fraud. But yes, if I lose, we're done. I'm trying to
01:06:51
tell people this is like out of a movie. Like this is Independence Day. The aliens have attacked. They they got it's
01:06:57
an invasion is here. Yeah. >> And then as mayor I have to fight all these DSA city council members. Make
01:07:02
sure they're never reelected. So not only do I have to do all that, but I got
01:07:06
to fight to make sure that my next four years there's never a DSA fake Democrat.
01:07:12
They're not Democrats. Democrats love Spencer Pratt. All my friends are Democrats. All my supporters are
01:07:17
Democrats. These people I'm up against, they use the word Democrat in front of
01:07:21
the word socialist. Go look at the Democratic Socialist America's website, people. Go look at it. That's not a
01:07:26
Democrat. Bill Clinton was a Democrat. >> It's not an American. >> Thank you. It's even worse. These aren't
01:07:32
even Americans. And when you say that, people are like, "Oh my god, this country was founded because people fled
01:07:38
tyranny in Europe and then everywhere else in the world." And this was the bastion where you could find hope and an
01:07:44
opportunity to be free, to choose how you want to behave, what you want to do, how you want to pray, to have freedom
01:07:51
that the government doesn't tell you what to do and how to do it. And that tyranny existed all over the world. And
01:07:56
that's why this country was started. And socialism is the most tyrannical form,
01:08:00
the most tyrannical system that humans have ever come up with. And so you got the word socialist in there. You've
01:08:05
already made the mistake because you've revealed yourself. My opinion. Sorry, I
01:08:08
had to rant on my own show. just I I took advantage of the opportunity. >> I have very smart friends that are from
01:08:14
LA and I say they're DSA. They got foot soldiers and they go, "What's a DSA?"
01:08:18
So, it's a sneak attack. It's like Ninja Turtles. They're in the sewers. They're
01:08:22
like, they're like Shredder and Company. So, fast forward eight years. You've
01:08:26
been mayor for eight years. I'm going to give you It's a four-year term, right?
01:08:29
Two two terms. >> You're sitting down with your sons and they're saying, "Dad, what did you do to
01:08:34
save LA?" What do you tell them? Tell me about that journey in retrospect. I
01:08:38
would say thank God people voted for laws sons and I enforced the laws that are there. I did what everyone did
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before the current leadership. So I keep telling people the experience I don't
01:08:52
need to invent anything. I don't need to come up with this utopia of how a city
01:08:55
works. You make a city safe and people will put money into it. They'll want to
01:08:59
live here. Commerce comes back. Families will be able to go to parks and go to the beach and not live in fear. So to my
01:09:06
sons again, I'm showing them you can fight evil. These people are evil that let every innocent person that pays
01:09:15
their taxes feel unsafe on their streets that they pay taxes for. A lot of people
01:09:20
don't have money to do things because they pay all their taxes like me and then the city and the government fails
01:09:26
them. And whether your house burns down or you got a screaming drug addict in front of you, a naked drug addict in
01:09:32
front of your kids causing trauma. There's people having literal drug addicts having sex on meth in front of
01:09:38
kids. Parents are telling me they have to have their kids glued to an iPad in the backseat of their cars driving to
01:09:44
them into school. Some parents don't have cars. In other communities, they have to walk under these underpasses and
01:09:49
walk past this. So, I'll be able to tell my sons, "Thank God America have laws."
01:09:55
and your dad said, "Hey, breaking news. Let's enforce them." And we did it and
01:10:00
it worked. And then people came in with tons of money and we got businesses booming, more jobs. Hollywood, we're
01:10:06
making even better movies than we've made in 10 years because the independent
01:10:10
creative artists are inspired again. They're feeling supported. It's it's the
01:10:15
vision is so real. And that's my fight. I go back to if God is burning somebody's house down to fight these
01:10:22
people, you're burning my house down and then you burn my mom's house down and
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you have me listening to my crying mom every day for 18 months. I don't do this
01:10:30
to be a politician. I do this to fight evil and this is evil that has taken this beautiful city that I loved. I
01:10:37
didn't even want to travel to go visit my wife's family in Colorado because I'm
01:10:41
like, can they come to LA? That's how much I'm a LA person. These people that
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I'm running against aren't even LA people. >> No. >> So, I'll tell them the law, son.
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>> Spencer Pratt, thank you for joining me on the All-In interview. >> Thank you. What a blast.
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>> That was awesome. >> Thank you. I'm going all in. I'm going all in.