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Howard Lutnick: Open borders and a welfare state is a disaster!

January 11, 2026 / 00:49

This episode discusses immigration policy, welfare, and the implications of open immigration. The conversation features arguments about the potential consequences of providing support to immigrants.

The host argues that while open immigration contributed to America's growth, it must be balanced with the understanding that not all immigrants would thrive without support. The discussion includes the idea that without assistance, those who cannot succeed would leave.

Key points include the concern that providing welfare and food stamps could attract individuals solely seeking benefits, leading to a strain on resources.

TLDR

The episode debates the impact of welfare on immigration and America's growth.

Episode

0:49

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You can't really open the border and say I'm going to give my money to anybody

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who wants to come in. >> That's getting it wrong. So when people say open immigration is how we built

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America, they are right. And open immigration would be something interesting if we

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gave people nothing. Because if we gave them nothing, if they weren't smart enough, capable, uh entrepreneurial

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enough, driven enough >> Mhm. they would starve to death and so they wouldn't stay here. They would

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self-deport and leave. >> Right? But if you're going to give them welfare and you're going to give them

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food stamps and you're going to give them housing and you're going to give

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them this that, then everybody's going to come and just leech off of us and we're going to pay and pay and Hey.

Episode Highlights

The Role of Immigration
Open immigration has been pivotal in shaping America, but it comes with complexities.
“Open immigration is how we built America.”
@ 00m 12s
January 11, 2026
Consequences of Support
Without support, immigrants would self-deport; with it, concerns about dependency arise.
“If you give them nothing, they would starve to death.”
@ 00m 28s
January 11, 2026

Episode Quotes

Open immigration is how we built America.
Howard Lutnick: Open borders and a welfare state is a disaster!
If you give them nothing, they would starve to death.
Howard Lutnick: Open borders and a welfare state is a disaster!
Everybody's going to come and just leech off of us.
Howard Lutnick: Open borders and a welfare state is a disaster!

Key Moments

Open Immigration Debate00:12
Welfare Concerns00:41