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Elon Musk Exposes the "Corporate Terrorists" Controlling Half of Wall Street's Voting Rights

November 01, 2025 / 01:20

This episode discusses corporate governance issues, passive index funds, and the influence of advisory firms like Glass Lewis and ISS. The conversation highlights concerns about stock market control and the implications for company leadership.

The guest expresses strong opinions about the role of advisory firms in corporate governance, likening them to terrorists for their control over shareholder votes. They argue that these firms, which own no stock, have undue influence over publicly traded companies.

Concerns are raised regarding the potential for political activism within these firms and how it could affect company decisions. The guest emphasizes the need for a balance of power in corporate voting to protect against arbitrary firings.

The discussion also touches on the importance of maintaining control over company direction, especially in the context of developing technology like robots, and the fear of being ousted by activist investors.

TLDR

Corporate governance issues arise from passive funds and advisory firms' influence.

Episode

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I do think we've got a fundamental issue with corporate governance in publicly traded companies where you've got about
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half of the stock market is controlled by passive index funds and most of them outsource their decision to advisory
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firms particularly Glass Lewis and ISS. I call them corporate ISIS. They're just
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terrorists. Glass Lewis and ISS controlled the vote of half the stock market. They own no stock in any of
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these companies. Now, if you're a political activist, you know what a great place would be to go work? ISS and
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Glass Lewis. And they do. you know where political activists go. They go where the power is. I think that this there's
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a fundamental breakdown of producer responsibility here. You know, the Tesla thing is it's called sort of
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compensation, but really it's not about compensation. I'm going to go out and buy, you know, a yacht with it or
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something. It's just that if I'm going to build up Optimus and have all these robots out there, I need to make sure we
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do not have a terminated scenario, then I maximize the safety of the robots. I feel like I I need to have something
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like a 25% vote, which is enough of a vote to have a strong influence, but not so much of a vote that I can't be fired
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if I go insane. But my concern would be creating this army of robots and then being fired for political reasons
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because of ISS and Glass Lewis fire me effectively even though I've done everything right.
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If you don't get that vote, if it doesn't go your way, it looks like it's going to. Would you leave? I mean, is
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that even in the cards? I heard the board was very concerned about that. Let's just say I'm not going to build a
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robot arm on me if I can be easily kicked out by activist investors.

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Episode Highlights

  • Influence of Advisory Firms
    Advisory firms like Glass Lewis and ISS control significant votes in the stock market.
    “They own no stock in any of these companies.”
    @ 00m 18s
    November 01, 2025
  • Concerns Over Job Security
    The speaker worries about being fired for political reasons while developing robots.
    “I'm not going to build a robot arm on me if I can be easily kicked out.”
    @ 01m 16s
    November 01, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • I call them corporate ISIS. They're just terrorists.
    Elon Musk Exposes the "Corporate Terrorists" Controlling Half of Wall Street's Voting Rights

Key Moments

  • Advisory Firms' Control00:18
  • Job Security Concerns01:16