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They drizzled it all across. Is that the right word? Drizzled.
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Megan Fox just just emailed me. Sorry.
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Okay, we'll read it for the class. It's for a beep. It's for a beeper party. Anyway, um No, no, no, no, no. Now we
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need to know. That's You can't just leave that. You need to read that email. Just park that in the side and move on. Megan Fox. Is it the real Megan Fox or
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is it like Well, she is real.
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Yo, what is up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. This was WWDC week. Apple had their uh their
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their software announcement festivities slash an what? I don't know what you
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want to call it. It's a developer conference, but it's also like unveiling a bunch of new stuff. Ragger. And uh
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yeah, there's there's lots to talk about. There's liquid glass. There is iPad turning into a computer finally.
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You guys are stuff. I didn't do anything. You didn't say it yet. Uh fake workout buddies. Everything's computer.
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Everything is a computer. Um lots of thoughts. This is the place where we give all of our thoughts. We've also you
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have you said you have the developer beta on everything. Everything. Okay, perfect. I've gotten some hands-on time
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with iOS, iPad OS, Mac OS, all these developer betas, the liquid glass across all of them. I have a a video I'll show
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you of my new scanned persona. Oh, from the Vision Pro. That got more interest
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than I thought it would. I'll show you guys the video first up. Um, let's do it. My new We're just going
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straight into it. Yeah, I'll show you. Subscribe if you want to see Marquez's new persona. What animal are you? This
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is my new uh your new high Vision OS. My Vision OS 26 persona realistic Moji.
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Okay. This is my new vision pro persona. That's what you just said. I feel like
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I'm looking in the mirror. Was this taken at like in a briefing? Resolution and better looking than So the textures
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are better. The face shape is not quite right. Your nose is very broad. Do your lips move. Your face is wider
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accurately. I think the skin tones and little subvariations in skin tone and
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texture are more accurate. And then the rest is about the same. Yeah. The face shape is like wider than your actual
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face. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. The cutout also reminds me of um what was the
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Google thing? Star Starline. Starline. It remember It reminds me of like Starline one cutout of like that's
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pretty good, but the more you look at it, the more blocky and like chopped off like old bad portrait mode. Yeah. Yeah.
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Wait, Marquez, could you drop that video in the Slack for the big ballers already uploading? Sweet. Yes. So, yeah, I guess
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we can we can talk about any number of these OSs. They are all labeled version 26 now. So if you were thinking, "Oh,
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this is only the third Vision OS." Oh, we know. It's just they call it Vision OS 26 now because they're all 26. We
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talked about this last week how it's feels futuristic even though it comes out during 2025. I mean, who doesn't
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want iOS 26 at WWDC2? Exactly. On the Galaxy S25
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Ultra. Someone brought up an interesting point. Are they going to call the new iPhone the iPhone 26 now? cuz it's going
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to be a little awkward to have the iPhone 17 running iOS 26. They're going to call it the iPhone 9. Oh god. Well,
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we Well, it didn't match before though. Yeah. True. Yeah. I don't think they're
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going to. I don't think they will. Okay. So, I iPhone 17 iOS 26. We'll see. We
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should place this bet. No, we'll see. Uh yeah, I guess we'll start. Speaking of a bet. Yeah. What was our overunder last
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week for how many times they say? I think it was four 4.5 or something. and I said under. It turns out they said the
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word Siri times total during the entire 90minute
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presentation that main keynote. It was right off the riff and they it was right at the beginning and it was back to back
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and then they just didn't say the word again. They they like weirdly went here's all the things Apple intelligence
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brought and there was like this big list that looked really impressive at first but really it was a lot of very simple
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things. And then I have the quote here. It's just we introduce enhancements enhancements that makes Siri more
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natural, more helpful. And as we've shared, we're continuing our work to deliver more features to Siri to make it
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even more personal. This work needed more time to reach our high quality bar. And we look forward to sharing more in
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the coming year. Yeah. So there was there was an interview that was done with Craig Federiki by Tom's Guide that
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is very it's like 30 minutes long. It's very good. You should go watch it. Uh but he talks about it more in depth in there. and he effectively said they had
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two architectures for like the AI Siri and architecture one was working but it
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wasn't like it the architecture wasn't implemented across the whole system or something like that and so it was
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working and it was work for most things but it didn't meet their quality standards and he said as soon as they
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realized they needed to use the second architecture they knew it was going to take way longer and they immediately told everybody it's not ready. I heard a
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similar answer from Craig talking to Joanna Stern in a Wall Street Journal video. Something about stage one was
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good enough to demo, stage two took way too long. Yeah, great. I mean, this is basically all we got as far as them
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addressing Siri in their main presentation or at least the shortcomings of Apple intelligence in
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the main presentation. And then they quickly moved on to just showing a ton of other stuff, which in my opinion was
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it was a lot. It was quite a bit. I think it was enough to have some thoughts and some meat to chew on while
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we also wait for the rest of Apple intelligence stuff and more AI features. I think the way that they addressed it was actually very smart because they
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kind of took the like bad is forever and delay is temporary approach. Just saying
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like we want this to be good. We have quality standards. Just wait for it. I think that's always the best way to
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delay things honestly. Sure. Uh how it affects their stock price, I have no idea. It didn't do very well, I don't
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think, when it got announced. You know, that's how it is. Anyway, well, we could talk about any number of these 26
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versions of OS first, but I think the one that most people want to talk about is iOS 26. So, we should probably just
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jump in there. So, liquid new Yeah, liquid liquid glass everywhere. Liquid
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glass is uh the new aesthetic that is specifically
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the transparent and refractive almost material design of all of these buttons
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and toggles and materials, the lock screen, the clock, the fonts, the windows, the everything. Yeah. And it's
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taking after a lot of what we've seen in Vision Pro. So I am mixed on it. I've
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seen screenshots of it that look really good. Yeah, I've seen screenshots of it
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that look really bad. Yeah, I think the the parts that look really good to me
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are like extra clean and look pretty minimal and they're like buttons hiding out of the way and nice animations and
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things pop in and out and the physics are nice and I'm sure the haptics match. Yeah. The parts that look really bad are
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Okay, so there's this thing and I talked about this briefly in videos. It's not super complicated. When you're editing a
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video and you're putting text in it, you try to find like a clean place in the video to put the text, right? And if you
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don't have any clean place to put the video, you can put a little background, like a little soft white or soft black,
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so that you can put the text on it and it's contrasty and it's readable. If you don't, you can't read the text
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very well. And so with all this transparency, there are many instances that I saw where Apple is trying to do
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this really clever like dynamic switching of light on dark background and dark on light background. So you'll
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scroll past a dark album cover. Yeah. And all the UI elements that you have like floating in this glass above it
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turn light so that they stay readable. Yeah. And then you go past it to some white empty space and all that stuff
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flips to dark so that it stays readable. And they try to do this really quickly and smoothly so that you don't really
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notice, but it's always readable. But there are so many instances of like scrolling or being halfway between a
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dark and a light where things just look weird and hard to read. Yeah, it's
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definitely relying a lot on the system to acknowledge what's on the screen. Yeah, obviously I'm on the first
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developer beta and it's not bugging right now. Probably because I have this like dark widget near the top. when that
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dark widget is not there, most of the time the text just it's almost unreadable. It actually darkens the
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background to allow it to be a little more readable. I think one of the primary problems right now that they may
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change once they do more developer betas is that the text is white on top of a
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mostly white translucent background on top of a light background. So, it
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darkens the background automatically, but it doesn't always do that. And honestly, it's been not doing that most
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of the time. Um, and I again, I only think it's doing that because I have a a black widget that's counting down right
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now. I think Yeah, our designers were very surprised when they first saw that. They're like, "That does not meet the
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like contrast standards or whatever that they, you know, went to school for."
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It's bold. It's bold. It It strikes me as a design that a lot of people are not going to copy. Some definitely will.
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They always do. But like Apple showed uh an allcle all glass home screen setup
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where you have whatever wallpaper you want and then all of your icons are clear, all your widgets are clear, everything is clear. That doesn't feel
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that feels like a skin like I installed on top of my phone. Everyone was comparing it to like old Android skins
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from like 10 years ago. Yes, it's it it's the look of the year. I don't know if this is going to age very well. I
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don't want an allcle setup. I mean, it's cool if you love your wallpaper, but like I need to be able to read the icons
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and the text. So, yeah. Yeah, that didn't look great to me. Liquid glass in general, I think, is like very
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technically beautiful and impressive and you can see like the light bending around certain elements and things like
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that and like light refracting and it's awesome to like look at, but practically on a phone it's like so distracting like
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it's so much. I thought for a lot of the things it besides the like transparent on
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transparent one looked good. Like the dark mode icons that still had that like sheen to it and a little bit of like
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depth. I thought those looked like I think there was a dark mode photos uh
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like icon that looked really really good. Yeah. Um, and like just looking at David's phone right now, he's going
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through it. When you had the um just your lock screen up, like the background pieces looking once it like opens up and
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it it kind of has this like sheen to the edges of all the background pieces and the the time fits really nicely in that
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looks really good. Yeah. But then the transparent on transparent is the one we're all looking at cuz it's the most
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obvious. I think that looks terrible. Yeah. Yeah. There are new icon designs across the board. There's a new I mean,
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we'll get to other oss in a second, but there's there's a new camera icon. There's a new phone icon, new slightly
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different looking icons that all still look familiar, but are just a little bit different. Yeah. Uh yeah, I will say it
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looks a lot like iOS 7, which I'm kind
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of digging in a strange way. I can kind of acknowledge that the design is not
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Can I see that roof? Fantastic or like it's not really what people expect for right now in design history.
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But I do like that it's opinionated because now we have material 3
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expressive which is very opinionated and we have this which is very opinionated. The surprise that I had not opinionated
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rebellious remember. Right. Uh yeah I I
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lost my train of thought. I'm sorry, dude. No, it's okay. It's okay. Um Oh, it is more cartoony than I expected.
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Bubbles. A lot of bubbles. Just like the the icons and shapes. Spongebob shapes. They they look really big on your They
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are big. Okay. That in itself. Okay, that's an option. I need you guys to Google Spongebob Bubble Buddy.
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We don't We don't have to picture it. Yeah, that's that's the new
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control pretty much. Yeah. Was it Ellis who said this should have been called stained glass? I think you said that.
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No, that's what Well, you could have taken credit for it because it makes way more sense. Like I don't know. Photos
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app looks great. I actually think that Spotify app looks really good. Um but I
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mean my favorite part about this is every time any company tries to make all icons on a homepage look the same,
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there's always a couple apps that just don't match it. And I've seen a bunch of people post stuff already like the chat
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GBT app is just still a plain white app. And the minute one icon doesn't match
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all the other ones, none of them match. Yeah, it happens every time. They also So I think it was last year that they
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introduced the tinted icons or was that two years ago? I think it might have been two years. It was two years ago. And they those I I still I think that's
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even more of a case of like in like one or two instances you can make it look decent, but otherwise it looks terrible.
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Uh, they also introduced this new clear one that they decided to highlight a lot for some reason. Yeah. I just It's hard
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to distinguish anything. I do not know what they were thinking with that. No. Yeah. I think that's the one we were saying like that one makes the least
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sense out of all of it. It's the most eye-catching. It's the reason everyone used it in their thumbnail. It's going to age the fastest. It looks bad though.
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Like you can't like in all the thumbnails I'm like I don't know what app that is. I don't know what app that is. Yeah. You know, I It's just
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confusing. May this is also maybe and we can move on from it in a second but this may also be a thing where when app
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developers who have third party apps they update their app icons maybe they'll be a little bit more legible
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because as of right now Apple's own apps they've designed for this and if they're not designed for this then they can be
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automatically converted but maybe they aren't as contrasty as they could be right so we can give it time it's a
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public beta or it's a developer beta now it's very early we'll see I also want to say that like
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using their stock wallpapers. All this stuff looks good, but like using your own wallpapers, it looks much worse.
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Exactly. That's what I'm thinking. It's It looks much worse. Legibility is going to be challenging. I think that they designed some wallpapers that are just
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like a couple of colors that are also glassy and everything kind of works well together and they're dynamic so that it
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gets darker in certain times, but when you use your own wallpapers, it's like it's like when remember when they first introduced the notch, all their
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wallpapers were very dark on the top so you like you couldn't see it. They know what they're doing for sure. They know the things that aren't quite perfect and
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how to make them look fantastic and then you put a picture of your kid up and it looks terrible. Yeah, I Ellis also
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watched I was watching Dubdub like the rest of
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us and was sort of like unimpressed by the liquid glass thing. But on Twitter,
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uh, this guy who works for Apple as an interface designer named Sean Coronamoney, uh, who worked on Liquid
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Glass posted this quick like 45 second video of just sort of demonstrating some of the things it can do. Um, which I
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left in the show notes if you want to watch it yourself. Um, and it actually like completely changed how I felt about
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liquid glass because I sort of saw it in the same way I saw Windows Arrow or Mac
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or like Aqua as like this overarching design language, but I think it's
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actually much more of a lighting engine because when you look at this sort of he it's all these close-ups of the buttons
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and stuff and really what it enables you to do in your interfaces is have threepoint lighting because there's
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specular highlights on all the ri like you get real rim lighting effects. And I
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feel like what this actually brings to the table, you know, I'm not like an expert 3D renderer guy. I just sort of
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fool around with it. But things like rim lighting can be really intensive like
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computewise. And so if Apple figured out a way to like optimize a lot of these effects like diffusion, specular
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highlights, things like that, and then package it in a way that developers can implement it really easily. Allah, you
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know, our vision pro episode and talking about all these sort of APIs that they give developers. Uh, I don't believe
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they discussed APIs in like the 20-minute liquid glass specific talk. Um, but I would be curious in about 6 to
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12 months interviewing a bunch of developers and learning about how a how
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hardware intensive these lighting effects are and then b how as a developer you're given the support to
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make your stuff this. I don't know. Watching this 45 second thing really changed my opinion on it to be like
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actually these are some potentially really powerful visual effects that might be packaged in a way that enables
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them to really be everywhere. RTX on. Now, I I agree that the more I've
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watched from Apple itself, the more impressed I am with how powerful and how
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intricate a lot of these effects are. If you've seen people do the like cursor
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hovering effect, instead of just being a bubble, it has like clear shape to the edges of the bubble. So, the the light
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sort of refracts differently around the edges versus the center. All these little things. or like on sliders where
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the rim, excuse me, on sliders when the rim lighting like changes depending on where you are in the which by the way uh
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for the Mac with the touch bar they actually updated the touch bar to have liquid touch bar. That's funny. On the
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well the one that the old one they touch bar to be a liquid glass touch bar.
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That's so funny. Interesting. know, I I see all of that and I on one hand I I
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can be both impressed by how intricate and how powerful these effects are in
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real time and also think about, you know, your scientists
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were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't think about whether or not they should. Some people
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are going to make some really sick like themes and stuff on there and like with a great wallpaper that all matches and
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their home screens are going to look incredible. And then some of our parents are going to turn on the fully
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transparent one and try and call us to be like, "Why can I not read?" And the icons are see-through. What the hell is
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this? Yeah. It's one of those questions that it's like if nobody if the average user can't make it look good, is it good
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design? Which if we're judging the average user, the iPhone is the phone to judge the average user on. Like the most
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normal people are using it. But what if I want everything to look like a tennis ball? Huh? Does he call me a normie? The
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real quick, did you notice when they introduced liquid glass, they called it an entirely new expressive material?
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When that happened, Adam was like, "Material." Expressive, baby. I thought that was very funny. Material three.
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Expressive. Um, that's funny. Yeah. So, they kind of they they drizzled it all across. Is that the right word?
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Drizzled. Megan Fox just just emailed me.
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Sorry. Okay, we'll read it for the class. It's for a beep. It's for a beeper party
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anyway. Um, no, no, no, no, no. Now we need to know. That's You can't just leave that. You need to read that email.
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Just park that in the side and move on. From Megan Fox, is it the real Megan Fox or is it like Well, she is real. I mean,
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she knows you're on this podcast, right? She She's going to email you. She has to know. This could be We've got big beeper news to share. David, ask her what it
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what uh what Shila Buff was like on set. There's a beeper party. Okay. Sorry. Okay. uh they sprinkled liquid glass all
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over the interface including the camera app and there are sort of like all these different ways that they can show liquid
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glass. They they have this developer talk where they basically talk about like where you should use the elements
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on top of each other and like if you should use it on like a dark background versus a lighter background. State of the platforms which was like right after
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and it was very platform was good. That that's not what I'm talking about though. They had a 20minut just liquid
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glass deep dive for developers. Oh, just on liquid glass. Yeah, it was quite good. Um, but in the camera app, they've
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simplified it a lot. So now it only really shows like two buttons at the same time, photo and video near the
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bottom. But if you swipe around, all of a sudden it expands. Oh. So, I think last week I mentioned that I anticipated
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that they were going to be sort of playing off the dynamic island as the way to like expand liquid glass, which
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is kind of the same idea. It takes like one thing and then it kind of like dynamically expands and contracts out.
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So, you can now just do this. You can swipe around it and it gets bigger and then it'll shrink. And if you want to
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get into more settings because everything is hidden now, you just tap on the on the mode that you're on and it
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brings up more settings or swipe up. Wait, I have to explain this to audio listeners because I feel like it's a little confusing. There's um so on the
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bottom of the camera app, there's a cutout with two options, photo and video, and one is highlighted. You have
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to hold down on that to start swiping, and then that it expands horizontally,
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and then all the other modes come up. Then it shows you cinematic mode, portrait mode, all the other stuff. Can I see something real quick? I just want
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to try. So, if I just click between these two, it'll Oh, okay. You can click and it opens up. You can also just
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swipe. You can start by swiping. So my like my worry was if you can just click between both of these, no one's so many
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people are never going to know there's other options, but it does it previews the extra options a little bit. So that
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actually is a good You tap video once and it sort of expands to show some more options. It shows there's options on
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both sides. So I think it's sort of like teaching you that you're able to swipe around. I do think people are going to
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have a hard time finding the settings part on clicking the thing that's already selected. Yeah, but I'm
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imagining that Apple has a bunch of data that just says like 99% of people use photo and video mode only. I agree.
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Portrait mode is one that I assume a lot of people still use. Isn't it like automatic portrait mode now or something
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afterwards? It automatically if you take a photo of a subject which it identifies as a subject as people or animals, it
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automatically takes the depth information required to turn it into a portrait later. Yes. So, so you might as
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well not even think about it anymore. Don't even worry. Swiping between options down here and having it like the
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words kind of like refract on the sides is really nice. That's That's a good I am not a fan of this camera redesign
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like at all. It looks beautiful, but it's so not practical. It's like the Sigma camera. It's not a fan of either.
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Well, okay. Again, there's two types of people who love the Sigma camera who use their camera. Right. And wrong. part
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type of person number one mainly and I think what you said David is true with
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the data they they mainly just open the camera app take a picture and leave or they open the camera app flip it to a
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selfie I took probably 500 selfies this past two days and I observed a lot of
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camera behavior in the last two days and it's people just opening the camera swipe swipe take a selfie close it like
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I saw that many times do you sorry do you remember when we were doing the old blind test Someone from Google reached
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out and said that like 80% of people don't even tap the screen to focus. They just take the photo. They just frame it
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up, hit the shutter. That's it. Yep. And so that's one type of person. And I think this camera app is great for that
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type of person because it simplifies it. It hides the buttons they were going to accidentally press and mess up their settings. For the other type of person,
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Adam, you and I, I want to switch to 60 fps sometimes or 30 or I want to switch to 4K sometimes. 60. Yeah. Once in a
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while I might be doing a slow-mo orbit and I'm going to turn it down to 30 later. like I have buttons and things that I need to press a little more often
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and this hides all that UI and so it is a little bit less convenient for that second type of I actually talked to
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Sebastian Dwith who makes Halli and he said he was really happy about the camera update because it makes it even
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simpler so looks like even more of a pro app. I was going to say is like the perfect interface because it's for me
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how I like want the buttons everywhere. That is really funny. remind me to bring that up later when we talk about raycast
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cuz I feel the exact same way about that. But I also think with this camera stuff that there are people that are
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just regular open up the camera, take a picture, put it away that one out of
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every 10 times do want to take like a slow-mo video like, "Oh, the dog is running around the yard. Where is the
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slow-mo?" And then they have to go looking for it. Like those features are popular. They don't even know those features. I disagree. That's why Google
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My grandma knows those features exist. My mom does not know those features. I think like people understand that they
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can take these photos with their phone and even if nine out of 10 times they're not doing that, they know that they have
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the ability to and now that ability is hidden. Won't you be able to ask Siri how to do things inside of your phone?
00:24:47
We'll see. I don't know. I don't feel like my mom and dad know that there are more than the cam the camera in the video. The Adams now they do because
00:24:54
it's it's all over the place. You you see it. They don't choose it maybe, but like it's there. Yeah. it'll just happen and my dad will complain to me that it
00:25:00
did it on its own. Um, something else. It's true. Uh, something else they added
00:25:06
this is very cool where it's that is quite ironic because they had aligned the cameras specifically for like for
00:25:14
like vision for the parallax for vision pro. They now have a spatialized button
00:25:19
that you can use on any image. It's kind of incredible. It's pretty incredible. So, I took this photo in San Francisco.
00:25:26
Look how instantly it spatializes it. So, for those who aren't again watching the video or can't see this, there's a
00:25:32
button that you can press to turn any regular photo with a foreground and a background into a like movable like 3D
00:25:40
looking image where it sort of creates parallax with the background and
00:25:46
interprets what it thinks is behind things. So, you can move around and peek around the image. It uses generative fill and it's like it's really good.
00:25:53
Really good. David, your phone is cooking right now. It's hot as Oh, it's very hot. I'm definitely going to do a short on this later cuz this is It was
00:26:00
super impressive. And you could do this in the Vision Pro as well. This is This is an Apple intelligence feature
00:26:06
basically. Look at this one. Look at this. Is that not amazing? That's wild. And I understand that this is kind of
00:26:11
gimmicky like it's just to do for fun and but as a lock screen wallpaper.
00:26:17
You can use it as a lock screen wallpaper, right? I mean, that's amazing. Yeah. We're back to Android 4, baby. I love that. We're bringing back
00:26:24
all the crazy weird gadgety features that we had in like Android 5. My wallpaper move. Oh, it's in five years.
00:26:30
We'll be like, "Oh, that's so deep." Look how the depth is crazy. Can I ask a question about the camera? Yeah. What is
00:26:36
the um is the interface for the like camera button? What was that called? Not camera button. Camera control. Camera
00:26:42
control. Still works. Still hidden. What does it look like when you slide on the side? Looks the same as it used to. It's
00:26:48
not liquid glass. Uh, it has defraction on the bottom and the top. Okay. Yeah. Everything's a little more glassy. Yeah,
00:26:56
I do hit that accidentally all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah. Uh, two two
00:27:03
new phone app features, right? Call screening. Screening. I I mean, I I use
00:27:10
this on my Samsung and Pixel phones all the time. And hold for me. They're not called that. They're not They're not
00:27:16
called that, but they're exactly what they sound like. It will let you. So, actually distinction on the Pixel, every
00:27:22
call I get, I can decide to screen it or not. So, if I'm getting an unknown number, I can screen it. If I'm getting UPS, I can screen it. If I'm getting
00:27:28
David, I can be like, "Yeah, let's screen him, too." Wow. Or not if I don't want to. I have an emergency, Marcus. But on the iPhone, it is a setting you
00:27:36
can turn on or off where either nothing gets screened or all unknown numbers get
00:27:41
screened. Hell yes. And so if if you turn on all unknown numbers get screened and some random person calls you and you
00:27:46
don't know who it is, it won't ring your phone until it picks up and it literally like a Siri like voice goes, "Hi, I am
00:27:53
I'm like here to listen to whatever you have to say and deliver the message to the person and they might answer and
00:27:58
then they talk and then it gets transcribed and shown on your screen. Then your phone rings." Yeah. So you check your phone and it's an unknown
00:28:05
number with a message on the screen from what they said to that assistant and then you can pick up or not. my dream or
00:28:10
deliver a nice little this person doesn't want to talk to you message and it will just hang up for you which is funny. Anyway, I like that this is built
00:28:17
in. All unknown numbers. Either none or all unknown numbers. Yeah. I can't tell if I think that's great or it's pretty
00:28:23
broad. It's terrible. I think it's terrible. Hey, well there's it's funny cuz there's some unknown numbers where I'm waiting for a call like an insurance
00:28:30
adjuster or something like that and I I just need it to pick up and there are others where it's just a spam call and
00:28:37
it's clearly not going to get through 99%. Yeah. So I feel like there's a lot where you're like expecting a call from
00:28:44
somebody but not someone that I've already saved their number into my phone. Mhm. And like if Lane's daycare,
00:28:51
if I just see a a call from I'm not dox myself, but like Well, no, cuz the
00:28:57
teachers have different phones. They might just be calling from their own phone. So like if I see it from that area, I'm probably going to pick up
00:29:03
thinking like, "Oh, she might be sick." Um Yeah. But I get a lot of phone calls from my home area code that are all
00:29:09
spam. That's true. But I feel like and the amount of people though, the thing on top of that is the amount of people
00:29:15
who then hear the like robot voice are just like, "Was this the wrong number?" It might hang up before they even know.
00:29:21
For sure. It does instantly text me. So your phone the phone when you call it I
00:29:26
got a demo of this. It barely even rings. So you you unknown person calls
00:29:32
you as soon as they like connect it just goes, "Hi, I'm Siri. I'm listening. Like tell me what you need to know." And then
00:29:39
you can say whatever you want and the person will get a transcript. I think it's great. Wait, I have a I have an Android question because now Call Me
00:29:47
Marquez Brownley, I'm using Android and iOS at the same time right now. But I found that on the Android phone I'm
00:29:52
using um if someone calls me from an unknown number and that number is listed is
00:29:59
associated with a business in Google Maps, it won't show me the number. It'll just show me the name of the business.
00:30:04
Is that like standard across all most Android phones? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good.
00:30:09
Doesn't always work perfectly like that. Oh, really? It's worked 100%. Anyway, that's what's that's what made me like feel like I didn't need call screening.
00:30:15
I feel like I'd rather have that than call. But even like a random delivery person where it won't show up as UPS,
00:30:21
but it's a delivery guy needs to like get in touch. The poor Door Dash people have to talk to Siri every time. Like,
00:30:27
I'm at your door. Please find. That's the example they gave in the keynote. It
00:30:32
was, "Hi, this is Greg downstairs with a flower delivery. I'll wait another minute before I have to move on to the next one. Yeah, but by the time you
00:30:40
actually pick up the minute, it's over. Yeah. Can I just say my favorite subplot of this podcast in the last couple weeks
00:30:45
has been Ellis discovering Android features real time. Dope felt like Yeah,
00:30:50
that's strap in. There's a lot more coming. Yeah, there's a lot more coming. I do also think it's very beautiful that
00:30:57
Google literally has they have it have had this for so long that people have just solidified the naming schemes that
00:31:04
Google have given these features. So I was in a briefing where they were like talking about all these features and someone was like can you explain how
00:31:10
call screening works and they're like so it's not called screening
00:31:15
it's called this new thing. It was amazing. Yeah. The other one is hold assist is what they're calling it
00:31:20
literally hold for me too. Yeah. Hold for me is the Google branded version, but you're on you're on a call and you go, uh, it's like 20 minutes of hold
00:31:27
music. I don't feel like waiting. You just have it hold for you and as soon as somebody picks up, it will ring you and
00:31:32
you can join the call again. So good. Thanks for holding for me. So good. So those are nice. Uh, what else is new to
00:31:38
iOS 26? Well, in the phone app, there's also a new phone app design. So it shows like there's now a contacts cards like
00:31:45
favorites list at the top, which is nice. Um, yeah, they they redesigned it a little bit. It's a lot simpler.
00:31:52
There's only like three things at the bottom now. And then a little search bar has the new uh liquid glass design. Uh
00:32:00
and they also separated calls, miss calls, voicemails, spam into these little sub menus. So this is actually a
00:32:05
theme throughout quite a bit of the OS where they have created these sub menus for things that you probably don't want
00:32:11
to deal with. For example, segue into messages app. Uh in the messages, thank you. Very good. In the messages app,
00:32:18
they've also included this submen that really is the hamburger menu but tilted 90°. Uh, and when you click it, it also
00:32:25
now has a unknown senders folder. Wait, what? Yeah, in the messages app for like
00:32:31
hamburger menu tilted 90°. Oh, wait. No, it's not tilted 90°. No, it's it's just the hamburger menu, but it's not all
00:32:38
it's not all even. It's cascading. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's different. I was just laughing at like hamburger menu, like
00:32:44
cheeseburger, bacon burger. like it just the pork menu and like a food item pork
00:32:49
burger. But anyway, so yeah, now I think that a big theme of this that is like un
00:32:54
sort of they unspoken is that they're trying to get they're trying to fight like spammers basically. So just like in
00:33:00
the phone app how they had like the unknown senders thing and they have all those features where unknown senders can't get to you, they now have a like
00:33:08
spam and unknown senders folder that are here. They also have a filter for unread
00:33:13
which is very nice. So everything will trickle to the top. And uh yeah, it's it's different now. I keep getting
00:33:19
tripped up because the s there's a search button at the bottom now which you have to click to like be able to
00:33:25
find um other people and it used to be at the top. But overall, I really like the messages redesign. Also, if you want
00:33:32
to see something really chaotic, they added backgrounds. Oh god, they added backgrounds inside of
00:33:38
an iMessage thread. I have this Aurora that took like longer to load than I
00:33:43
would have liked. Oh, yes it did, baby. Maybe a beta thing. Um, so we have a live Aurora going on here. They have
00:33:50
like live A lot of this really feels like early Android stuff. Well, this is WhatsApp. Just basically them adding
00:33:56
feature like the multiple people in a group chat typing indicators just things other group chats have had for a while,
00:34:03
backgrounds, polls, all these things that you could do in other chat apps that you can now do iMessage. Can't wait
00:34:08
to see what Android people get in a group message that gets sent a poll. Actually, can you test it right now? Can
00:34:14
you send a poll? Yeah. Yeah. Throw me and Andrew in a group chat and see what the poll looks like. It won't it won't
00:34:19
show up for Andrew, right? Well, am I going to get a message that's like David posted a poll A,
00:34:26
B, C, and read out everyone's votes one by one. That would be horrible. That would be very funny. Okay, while David
00:34:32
sets that up, uh we have been avoiding the elephant in the room. Um, so I'm glad that we've gotten to this point.
00:34:38
Uh, live translation. It's the year of live translation. 2025.
00:34:46
We didn't know it was going to happen so fast, but clearly one of us did. Yeah. Ondevice models are proving useful in
00:34:54
messages, FaceTime, and phone. In all the ways you're imagining, you can now
00:35:00
have a conversation with someone who speaks a different language. It will understand what you're saying and translate it in your voice and then
00:35:06
understand what the other person's saying and translate it so that you can hear it. Boom. Anyone in the world can
00:35:11
talk to anyone in the world through the live translate feature. Was it anyone in the world? It's not all I just want to
00:35:17
say translate. you know, as the the biggest
00:35:23
believer and strongest backer of live translation, as someone who's been in the trenches rooting for this hand over
00:35:31
fist for for years. Uh you're welcome, world. Uh you know, I think I think
00:35:38
because of me bringing this about, all wars will end. Um we'll achieve world
00:35:45
peace at like a record rate. No one will be hungry anymore. All those translation errors because of Yeah, because that's
00:35:51
where it all went wrong, you know. Now we just got to make sure everyone has AirPods and an iPhone and is willing to
00:35:59
like read stuff. Yeah. Lost me on the last one.
00:36:05
Okay. Can one of you text me in German? I did already. What did you text? Well, it's still downloading the language, but
00:36:10
yeah, it is. It look, there's no point me being defensive here, right? like I've been kind of getting mopped up in
00:36:16
the past few weeks on my on my live translation take. But I will I do want to say, you know, it is a little bit
00:36:22
like they just kind of did voice to text and then Apple translate and then our
00:36:29
voice you think was going to happen. That's exactly Well, but no, no, no, no, but but their their demonstration had
00:36:35
all this like like lat like it didn't seem fundamentally different than what David did in the taxi cab. You know what
00:36:40
I mean? Like, and I know I'm not trying to move the goalpost. Place me again. It's live.
00:36:47
I get it. It the the demo on stage was it had just enough lag for me to go like, "Yeah, that seems about right."
00:36:53
Yeah. But we're not quite at like Star Trek, you know? Yeah. We're not quite at
00:36:58
at Skype levels of live dub. Yeah. Uh I don't remember what I said I would do. I
00:37:05
think it had something to do with Hot Sauce. Um Oh, did you make a promise? I think he said he shave his head, you
00:37:11
know. Can I talk about that for a second? Can I talk about this? This is totally off topic, but I'm going to bring it up anyway. Uh I did I remember
00:37:18
I made that video about uh the uh robo taxi event, the Tesla ro I made a promise in that video. I made a
00:37:25
promise in that video that was very very clear. And if you want to even roll the clip, you can play it back. And I said
00:37:30
he gets on stage. He says, "We're going to have this vehicle out for $30,000 before 2027."
00:37:38
No, they're not. There's just no way that they're actually going to be able to do that. I mean, if they if they do,
00:37:44
let's say they do, I will shave my head on camera. You know, there was a moment on stage where Elon said, "Yeah, we are
00:37:50
going to deliver this robo taxi that's going to drive around and do, you know,
00:37:56
robo taxi things and it's going to be under $30,000 by 2027." And I said, "No,
00:38:03
you won't. That specific thing, I don't think so. And if it do, I'll shave my
00:38:08
head. If it do, now take that out of context of me going, I don't believe in it. A lot of people have seen like beta
00:38:15
tests of like Model Y's as robo taxis in Austin in limited capacity and gone, ah,
00:38:20
they did it, Marquez, you have to shave your head. No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't get to rephrase my original bet.
00:38:26
my bet I my mentions on Twitter are filled with and I assume this is just uh
00:38:32
engagement bait but of uh many people going hey Marquez they finally are doing
00:38:38
or they're about to do the thing where's the barber shop get ready to shave your head type stuff uh that's not that was
00:38:44
the nicest way possible of putting that that's not what they're saying yeah the bet uh the bet was specifically just as
00:38:51
a reminder $30,000 or less rooc cab, the taxi thing, the gold thing with two
00:38:58
doors, blah blah, all that delivered to a customer before 2027. So, that's the bet. So, for those of all who are
00:39:04
misquing me online and trying to sort of change the goalpost on me, all my haters, you know, look, it look, it
00:39:11
worked. I'm glad you're thinking about me a lot and and tagging me every time there's a new announcement. It's great. But, uh, yeah, get it straight. So, live
00:39:17
translation. Yeah. Um, it did do it. It did do it. So the way
00:39:22
this works, they put live translation across the OS, which is quite cool. So they have it in messages, they have it
00:39:28
in the phone app. Now the way it works in messages is you have to download the language that you're going to be
00:39:34
translating. And so when people send text in that message, it shows it in your language, but it shows their
00:39:40
language slightly smaller above it. Yeah. Uh which is pretty cool. And then
00:39:46
in the phone app, the way it works, which is a little bit I'm not sure this is going to work in practice cuz it
00:39:51
because it was a little slow, but basically if you're on the phone with someone speaking another language, you
00:39:58
can speak your language and then a couple seconds goes by and then a really bad robot voice speaks out in their
00:40:05
language and then they say the thing and then a couple seconds goes by and the really bad robot likely dubbed movie. It
00:40:11
was pretty bad. I was kind of surprised considering how good these AI voice models have gotten recently. I was
00:40:17
pretty surprised at how bad the AI voice was. But um that's the live translation.
00:40:24
You do not in fact have to stick your waxy ear airpod in somebody else's ear.
00:40:29
Huge. Would have been perfect. So pretty huge if true. Anything else we want to do in iOS 26 before we take a quick
00:40:35
break? I'm sure there's other stuff. There's the games app. There is a new games app. There is a games app where you can challenge your friends to a
00:40:42
bunch of games, but you still can't do group fitness challenges. Do group fitness challenges. It was literally called It said challenges, right?
00:40:48
Cowards. Yeah. Adam was like, "Oh my god, they might add it to We'll get to what they actually added later, but
00:40:54
yeah. So, the new games app is pretty much exactly what we talked about. It just kind of groups all of the games on your iPhone into one place." It also has
00:41:01
a little tab for Apple Arcade as a tab where you can play together with other friends, which is kind of nice, like if
00:41:06
you want to, you know, group game. And it just shows your library. So it's not that different. Bunch of games in one
00:41:12
place. Yeah, it's just a bunch of stuff in one place. Now they also have a preview app, dedicated preview app. This
00:41:20
did not used to exist on the phone or the iPad. Now it is on the phone and the iPad. I'm super excited for that on the
00:41:25
iPad. Um yeah, it's it's really nice on MacBook because you can do like markup
00:41:31
and stuff. You can edit documents. Same with the iPad. And same with the iPad. I'm like pencil baby. I am glad it's on
00:41:37
here now though because like usually when I have to sign NDAs and stuff it's very frustrating. Just open the Mac. I
00:41:43
usually just airdrop it to my Mac and then sign on the Mac and then send the email. So yeah, that is much nicer. Uh
00:41:49
what else did they change? I feel like we have other stuff, right? I mean since everything is so cohesive between all of
00:41:55
them, I'm sure as we talk about other products, we'll probably remember something that happened in iOS. So if we want to trivia and break and talk about
00:42:02
that. Yeah, besides Apple Wallet, which no one cares about. So, yeah. Yeah, they
00:42:08
added they added support for new driver's licenses, which nobody is nobody to accept. New Jersey, least
00:42:15
compliant Real ID state in the country. Nice. Nice. Let's go. We are number one.
00:42:21
Number one. We are number one. Okay, let's do trivia. [Music]
00:42:28
Uh uh uh. Boys. Boys, you know what time it is. We
00:42:34
had an event, which means were you paying attention? That's right. Another
00:42:41
instance of were you paying attention? Question number one, Craig Federigi
00:42:46
opened up his actually one of his segments. He was there's a lot of Craig this next CEO. He's head of software.
00:42:52
So, you really think so? I think so. He's like their most visual person. Tim Cook was barely in dubdub at all. You
00:43:00
notice that? Well, he always where he bookends things. Yeah. But he's usually in it and gives uh he he gives the the
00:43:08
overarching value and then he closes it at the end. He usually has little segments in between where he's like, "We
00:43:14
love what you're going to do with iPad OS." So next here's Craig. This is the
00:43:19
software guy and this is Dubdub. Yeah, that's fair. So it's kind of his I still think he's going to be next to you. Anywh who, I think watch the next iPhone
00:43:26
event. It's just Turnis over and over again or Mac stuff. I mean, I like Turnis. He's nice. Anyway, no, this is
00:43:31
interesting. This is interesting. But during his Mac OS segment, Craig Federi
00:43:40
made his normal joke. He was like, "The Apple Crack product marketing team went
00:43:45
so on some retreat blah blah blah blah blah." This year, because it was Tahoe, they it was a ski trip. I don't know if
00:43:52
you remember that. And to test whether or not you were paying attention, I want to know what word did Craig use to
00:44:01
describe the tracks left in the snow by the product marketing team.
00:44:11
Do you have anything easier? I would just say I I was paying attention. Like
00:44:16
if you were if you were actually paying attention, this word would have really stuck out because even he looked
00:44:21
uncomfortable saying it and it is possibly the least Apple word that has ever been used in one of these things.
00:44:27
You know how one time the trivia question was what was David's last job. What about Well, I do have I do have a
00:44:33
backup that's dumb easy which you should make it which is what what song was playing during the F1 trailer. But no
00:44:40
one wants to do that. No, no. You should have Yeah, you should have done Yeah, we all know that one. What was What was David's hometown?
00:44:47
Yeah, that would be that would be good. Tahoe. Tahoe. No, no, no, no, no, no. We're We're going to break. Think about
00:44:53
this. It's in your brain, you guys. You guys, if you guys were truly, you know, if it
00:45:00
you know, I was I was paying attention, but I was also doing that thing where I was live tweeting the event and also
00:45:05
taking notes for a video that I was going to make all at the same time. Sounds like a skill issue. So, this one
00:45:10
might have just hit the it might have gone out the other ear and I just What you should have done isn't is is
00:45:18
memorize the script. Open up your your MacBook, start a Google Meet with yourself,
00:45:24
get Gemini to record and make a transcript of it as if Anyway, let's go
00:45:30
to break. Um, we'll see you guys in a sec.
00:45:35
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00:47:07
All right, welcome back. We've got way more dubdub to talk about all the 26es,
00:47:12
all the software stuff. David, you had one more thing about that. One more thing about that. So, um, I didn't know
00:47:18
where to sleep at Dubdub. So, I called up Christian Celig and, uh, the
00:47:23
exeveloper of Apollo, and I crashed his Airbnb with a bunch of other developers, and it was fun. And one of those
00:47:30
developers told me that, uh, they actually introduced an alarm kit API.
00:47:36
This is so far the most David string of sentences I've ever heard. Keep going.
00:47:41
Um, that's federated. I'm kidding. Um, but previously the only alarm you
00:47:49
could use on your iPhone was the freaking clock app, right? I didn't even know that. So now any app can set an
00:47:57
alarm. Uh, yeah. I saw developers making jokes about this like, will they now put let me put an alarm in my like notes
00:48:03
app? I mean, that's dope. Is that not dope? No, I agree. It's sick. I can't wait to see all the cool alarms. Like,
00:48:10
do you remember the rock alarm from back in the day? The rock alarm? Oh, didn't it just it just woke you up whenever the
00:48:15
rock whenever the rock woke up at like 4 in the morning. I want that back. That's what I want. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. It's
00:48:21
time to bring that up back. So, I think that's pretty cool. Um, yeah, that was pretty neat. And then also, they added
00:48:29
the Apple Intelligence like a like app actions API thing. So, now you can like
00:48:36
use a app intense. You can now like use a lot of Apple intelligence features within your app as you're developing it.
00:48:42
And it all happens on the iPhone, which is also very cool. But Apple intelligence isn't good yet. I know. But
00:48:48
you can do like visual intelligence and stuff within your app now. Yeah. So I think or summaries or whatever. Yeah.
00:48:54
Summaries. You can do all that stuff in your app and it's not just Apple's apps. So that's very good. And I'm excited to
00:49:00
see what that does. So now we're done. All right. And it's federated. We have a
00:49:06
bunch of other oses we could talk about. We could talk about Mac OS. We could talk about iPad OS. What's the
00:49:11
difference? Hey, I'm not wrong. Uh or watch OS or TV OS or Vision OS. Can I
00:49:17
make a suggestion? Can we do like a rapid fire watch OS TV OS to get them
00:49:22
out the way because Yeah, cuz we're going to forget at the end. We're going to forget. No one cares. All right, let me blast. Let me blast through the small
00:49:28
ones. Okay, tvOS got a slight new visual like coat of paint, right? Barely. New
00:49:34
glassy, etc. That's kind of all that it did. And there's also some new content. Yeah, it stripped the paint. It was
00:49:39
already very glossy. Yeah. Yeah, great watch OS also new glossier, glassier uh
00:49:45
touch points. There's also new smart Siri, what is it called? Shortcut smart Siri widgets. What are they stack? Smart
00:49:52
stacks. Smart stacks. Better smart stacks. Better smart stacks that are more live. Great. Um you can also I
00:49:57
really like the swipe to dismiss. That little wrist swip swipe to dismiss
00:50:02
flicking. By the way, I don't like that cuz this morning Yeah, this morning I got an email. Oh, you're running the
00:50:07
beta? Yeah, I'm running the beta. I got an email and the email like popped up here and I was like, "Oh." And I went like this and because I flicked too fast
00:50:13
it dismissed it. It should definitely only be away from you that does it. I thought it would be like quick away back
00:50:20
is like the dis I just got an email. Yeah. It's like Oh yeah. So it's like
00:50:25
you're flipping it off your watch. It's literally supposed to I think feel like you're just just like Yeah. throwing it
00:50:30
off your watch. Maybe it just messed up or maybe it's just a beta. I thought it was cool. The beta hopefully gets less buggy. Um, and then also this workout
00:50:37
buddy, which is like a Spotify DJ for workouts. It's almost exactly what
00:50:42
you're thinking. It's just a new voice that like looks at your workout data and every once in a while goes, "Great work.
00:50:48
You're a mile in. Your part rate is 162." Way too happy. It's like, "Wow,
00:50:54
you're such a killer runner. You ran 12.4 miles last week. Way to go." I
00:51:00
wanted to be like, "You're such a piece of garbage. You haven't ran in 3 weeks. What the heck are you doing with this on
00:51:06
your couch again? They were pumped about that. It was trained on the voices of Apple fitness trainers. So, it's like
00:51:11
literally you have your own trainer with you in your ear like on your run with you. Cool. Great. Be great if it's like,
00:51:17
"Hey, dumbass. You forgot to stop this workout. I know you're sitting on the couch right now." Yeah. And then Vision OS. Vision OS got uh one really, really,
00:51:24
really, really, really cool thing that I don't think is that useful, but it's still pretty cool. Widgets. Pin them
00:51:29
anywhere. They have like a depth effect. You can pin. Did you see? Have you tried Vision OS 26? I have not tried it yet.
00:51:36
If you pin a panorama photo to a wall in a frame, just for me, you walk past that
00:51:42
thing and it looks like a window. I promise you, walk past it and you can like look around the panorama through
00:51:48
the window, which isn't that revolutionary. You could already look around a panorama, but just the depth effect and being pinned to the wall, it
00:51:55
was something sick. You can also do clocks and stuff. I do uh I do sell panoramic wallpaper packs on my website
00:52:00
davidml.com if you want to go put on your vision pro which nobody's going to do. Um the widgets also like the depth
00:52:08
wasn't just out it was like protruding in which looked really really good. And
00:52:14
and there's persistent app pinning now. Thank god. So now oh my goodness, this
00:52:19
is what everyone's been asking for. Now you can just put on the headset and all of your stuff is pinned where it's supposed to be instead of having to
00:52:25
reset it up every single time. Yeah. And that's a huge huge huge update. There was something that I caught reading
00:52:31
about this that I didn't hear there and I'm wondering if either of you heard about in the briefings, but there's now
00:52:36
Premiere Pro support in Vision Pro there. There's going to be like a Premier Flash like a small like an app
00:52:43
inside of it. It said mostly for like 360 video and stuff. That's what I read, but I just there's no Final Cut in it,
00:52:50
right? You know what I want? You know what I want in this in this print? I want to be able to to pick a clip up out
00:52:56
of out of the timeline and I want to I want to snap it in half like a tolerone. I like I want there's like a cut right
00:53:02
there. I want to go just like a you know what I mean? Like a toone. I would edit like that. Do it and then you put it you
00:53:09
put it right back. I would multicam with that. I would be doing my J cuts. I'd like grab three clips and like shove
00:53:14
them under three other clips. Yeah, do that. They also added they added more dystopian features. Um, which
00:53:21
technically we wanted where now if you're sitting on a couch with your significant other, you can both watch
00:53:26
the same movie in your individual Vision Pros and then when you lean over to give each other a little kiss, uh, you're
00:53:32
both wearing Vision Pros. Can you do that? I don't think you could kiss. I think if two people are wearing Vision
00:53:38
Pros, I don't think so. I try. We
00:53:45
members only content. I'm not beating the obligations. Um, shared content is important though on Vision Pro. This is
00:53:51
what I talked about when it first came out. Like top five things missing from Vision Pro. My number one is shared experiences. Two different people
00:53:57
looking at the same 3D object, manipulating it, showing each other, you know, scaling, rotating in the same room
00:54:03
at the same time. That is now going to be supported, which is great. Um, I also think that it's hilarious that there's a
00:54:09
world where two people are wearing $3,500 headsets and they don't have a TV that they can share. Like, that's a
00:54:15
weird room. I don't know what that room is, but okay. There's a couch and a blank wall and you just That's your
00:54:21
room. Great. Specifically for like when you move into a new apartment, but you haven't bought anything yet. But you got your headsets, so you're ready. You're
00:54:27
sitting in this empty white room on the carpet. What do you mean movie night? I got the headsets. All right. Uh, one
00:54:33
thing about tvOS that we didn't mention uh is that you can now do karaoke on TVs and you can use your iPhone as a
00:54:40
microphone for the karaoke. Finally. Yeah. Wow.
00:54:45
Cool. Yeah. Wow. Uh, yeah. So, that's all that's all coming. And I think now we get to the two big ones, which is Mac
00:54:51
OS and iPad OS. And to Andrew's point, less of a difference than ever before in
00:54:58
Mac. Well, between Oh, yeah. Yeah. What is a computer? Okay, let's start with Mac OS because I think we can also kind
00:55:04
of drill through that one a little quickly. Yeah. Liquid glass everywhere. Uh, clear dock, clear widgets. You can
00:55:10
do clear all the things. I don't love the look on the Mac. I gotta be honest.
00:55:15
I've seen it now. I the control center. Are you running that, too? Oh, I'm running every hit the control center right now. Tell me that doesn't look
00:55:21
like Bubble Boy from Spongebob. It is Bubble Boy. That looks so hard to read. That looks horrible. It's opinionated.
00:55:26
It looks horrible. Our rain meter is bad. I need a background so I can read things. That's pretty rough. Give me
00:55:33
It's also funny cuz I love it. Like my menu bar up top is more transparent than your menu bar. Yeah. So the menu bar is
00:55:40
supposed to be transparent when you have no apps open. Than your menu bar when you have no liquid app when you're just
00:55:47
like showing your home screen. So if you just like expose the home screen just like like click the bottom left corner to like show your uh hide all windows
00:55:53
should be clear, right? It's not. It's not. It is supposed to be. No, it's a beta. It's it's a beta. It's a beta. Um
00:56:00
you're like me. What else is in Mac OS? I mean some other slight improvements. Spotlight is kind of the big thing for
00:56:06
me. Spotlight. All right. Oh god. Adam, come in. This is Yeah, Adam, tap
00:56:11
in. Okay, so I'm ready, baby. You're a fellow Raycast user, right? So, um, I
00:56:17
mentioned this in the impressions video. My like number one productivity app I install fresh on every new Mac is called
00:56:23
Raycast, and it literally replaces the command space uh, keyboard shortcut for
00:56:29
Spotlight and is a like Spotlight on steroids. I can open apps obviously, or
00:56:34
I can give it commands. I can also tab over and uh find files. I can talk with
00:56:41
AI, literally like dozens of different AI models. I can select on the fly which one I want to talk to. I can also do uh
00:56:48
there's a I think my favorite part is actually just the clipboard history. I just type in clipboard and I see my
00:56:54
entire clipboard history of all the things I've copied and want to paste again. So, it is incredibly incredibly
00:57:00
useful. Uh it syncs across devices. I don't really go anywhere without it.
00:57:06
Obviously, it's very useful. So, Apple gets on stage and they start showing
00:57:11
this new spotlight for Mac, which actually when you hover over it has this nifty little animation that's starts to
00:57:17
break apart like, okay, you can still search for apps, but you can also now do commands, keyboard shortcuts, view your
00:57:24
clipboard history, all these new things that you couldn't do in Spotlight before. Yeah. And the first obvious
00:57:30
thought that I had was, "Oh, this is what it looks like when an app gets sherlocked." Like, this is the obvious.
00:57:36
Uh, you know, if I'm a developer at Raycast, I'm over here thinking like, "That's tough. They just took a bunch of
00:57:42
our users features." And that's actually kind of what I said in the video. But the more I've thought
00:57:48
about it, oh, and I read the statement from uh I think it was a founder or CEO.
00:57:53
Uh, the more I thought about it, the more I think it actually is promising that Raycast will continue to exist and
00:57:58
may even benefit from this. Oh, let's hear it. Because the angle is people
00:58:04
weren't thinking about like spot spotlight being a power user type thing or doing shortcuts in that way yet. And
00:58:11
so it was only really us nerds, power users, productivity people who are doing that. Now that this is built in and
00:58:17
people might start to mess with this a little bit, they will quickly run up against Apple's limits of customization
00:58:25
and then we'll find Raycast because Raycast will will continue to do more than Spotlight will. Like when I want to
00:58:31
open command space and tab and I'm talking to Gemini now in two clicks, I don't have to touch my trackpad. There's Gemini on the computer. Yeah. Well, in
00:58:38
Raycast, like I don't even have to leave go to a browser. I can just chat with Gemini. No. And so that type of thing is
00:58:44
always going to be the next level above what like Apple's never going to let me do that in Spotlight. But when you open
00:58:50
the funnel a little bit and you get regular users thinking a little bit more about like, oh, I'll use Spotlight a little more. I'll start to like use it
00:58:56
to find files or that's the type of thing that shows people that Raycast
00:59:01
exists faster. And Raycast can let you do things with third party apps. Right. Right. There's plugins, lots of plugins.
00:59:08
Google Translate plugin is very useful. I'm sure there will be a translate Siri shortcut plugin or something that does a similar thing. The thing that was really
00:59:14
useful for uh Apple's version is the app intense again. You can like jump in and
00:59:20
send a message to a recipient and you type it all out and hit enter and it sends a message without ever opening the
00:59:27
email files straight from the clipboard from the straight from spotlight. So that's like that is like power user like
00:59:34
there's an entire YouTube genre of how to maximize raycast and do these types
00:59:40
of things and this is stepping right into that territory and if this was like a third party app you would immediately
00:59:47
be like oh this is pretty clever and nice UI but obviously very limited. Yeah and uh yeah I think this is so are
00:59:53
developers not going to be able to tap into the spotlight thing you can only use it with Apple apps? I have a feeling
00:59:59
that this will be much more restricted and there won't be third party plugins like Google Translate or Gemini Chat or
01:00:06
or Spotify play pause type stuff. Oh man. Um that'd be amazing if you could just be like play on Spotify this song.
01:00:13
That exact thought you're having is what's going to drive people to Raycast. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. I think the Spotlight limitations are going to
01:00:20
be that there's no you have to use shortcuts for things like that. Like if I want to do anything like that, like go
01:00:26
and open Spotify and then play this song, you can probably hack your way around that with like Siri Shortcuts.
01:00:33
Siri Shortcuts. Yeah, but something like Raycast will just do it because it already has it built in. And then you
01:00:39
can also just like create your own extensions on Raycast if you want. I spent this whole weekend which is
01:00:44
hilarious because I like I posted like Saturday or something with someone like okay I've been using Raycast now like
01:00:50
anno me for the last like three or four weeks like just basically as a basic search bar for like a spotlight
01:00:57
replacement and I was like okay send me your like tips and tricks for Raycast and I dove deep down that rabbit hole
01:01:03
this weekend. I set it up all perfectly and then Monday happened. Yeah. Oh god. And on stage they're like, "Oh, we just
01:01:11
updated Spotlight." And I was like the Leonardo DiCaprio meme, like, "Wait, I've seen this before." But the thing
01:01:16
that makes Raycast way more powerful, which is like to Marquez's point, the people that care are going to just
01:01:22
always have to go to Raycast because you can just use regular code to build your own thing if you want, right? Like if
01:01:28
you're trying to build your own extension in Raycast, I'm pretty sure it's just like React and like that's it, which a lot of developers know. So like
01:01:34
yeah, you can like try to figure it out with shortcuts if you're a developer and you want to do that. Regular people just
01:01:40
ignore shortcuts altogether. So they're not going to do that. Yeah. But the people that care about this stuff kind
01:01:46
of tend to have these skills anyway. So then they'll be like leaning towards Raycast. Speaking of shortcuts too, uh
01:01:52
they added a bunch of like Apple intelligence features to shortcuts now. They showed me a demo where you get a bunch of of photos that you have in a
01:02:00
folder and you're like, "Oh, I need to organize these." Yeah. So, they had created a shortcut that like organizes
01:02:05
the photos based on what's in them. This one seemed insane to me. Yeah. So, they like it did what it's supposed to. Well,
01:02:11
they were saying that this would be like perfect for video editors because you could automatically index things. Yeah.
01:02:17
But, you know, it has to work. You should make a shortcut so every time Final Cut crashes, it reopens it up
01:02:22
again and gets to the spot you were at. That's actually Final Cut's always open. Yeah. And the shortcut is just you
01:02:28
slamming your keyboard with your fist. They just go Yeah. Oh, I just almost sent an email.
01:02:38
David has the new spotlight open. I do. It looks way nicer. It does. It looks really good. The like the animation is
01:02:44
cool. There's an animation between the app store files. What's the other? It's a Well, it's not the app store. It's
01:02:49
apps. Apps. Apps, files, actions, and clipboard manager. And it has a very
01:02:54
easy like command 1 2 3 4 to select any of those. Um, it looks that looks really
01:03:00
nice. I think that new spotlight looks good. Animation's nice. It's glassy, of course. Yeah, it's glassy. Yeah. So,
01:03:06
anyway, that's my that's my two cents on on this spotlight situation. I think it's a cool feature. Um, and it will
01:03:12
hopefully get a lot of people thinking about how to use it better. Yeah. But then, clipboard history. Are we just all
01:03:17
going back to writing in a like in a terminal? I feel like this is just teaching us all the cool kids way
01:03:25
getting all excited. Yeah, that moment where sorry that moment where uh it was maybe it was Craig or whoever was giving
01:03:31
a demo like talked about you can do all of this and like send this message and hit enter without ever touching the
01:03:36
trackpad. I was like that's the exact pitch of so many apps of like my email
01:03:42
app is you can do all this and never touch your keyboard or never touch your trackpad or your mouse. That is straight
01:03:47
from that world. Turns out keyboard shortcuts were the solution all along. Y um also there are now live activities on
01:03:54
the Mac. True. And it has continuity. So if you have basic, you can basically have it where you can like open a
01:04:00
virtual version of your phone and then have your phone on there. And so now like there will be live activities on
01:04:05
your iPhone. Say when your Uber Eats delivery is coming or whatever, it'll show up on your Mac and then when you
01:04:10
click it, it opens a virtual session of your iPhone and you can manipulate the app on your iPhone from your computer.
01:04:16
So that is pretty cool. You also get the live activities in your top menu bar,
01:04:22
right? So you're do you think Domino's pizza tracker can be on my menu bar now if it's a live activity? Absolutely.
01:04:29
Domino's is always at the forefront of every new technology. So I guarantee they'll be there. We also did not talk
01:04:34
about the most important change. Colored folders. Yeah, I was going to say that. Also, and you can put ic emojis on the
01:04:41
folders as well. Colored emoji folders. Real organization shops here. It'll match perfectly with liquid glass.
01:04:49
Yes. Just everything else no color red folder with green emoji with liquid
01:04:56
glass background is just diabolical. This is chaos. Yeah. Laugh. I cannot wait for this. Johnny IV leaves and
01:05:03
everything falls apart. All right, so that's that's basically all of it for the the rapid fire. I think the last one
01:05:09
we're going to do is the big one, iPad OS 26. But before we get to that, let's
01:05:14
take one more quick break, which means it's time for one more trivia question. I jumped the gun. I sorry. No, it felt
01:05:20
smooth. It felt like that was kind of like integrated. Yeah. Yeah. You know what else was preemptive?
01:05:26
Were you paying attention? I was. I swear. Is that the definition? I was. Then on the very first frame of
01:05:34
WWDC, it's a closeup of Craig in an F1 car. Sure is. Can you name me one of the
01:05:40
sponsors that were on his helmet? The sponsor. Helmets specifically? Any of them. Anything on that frame, I'll take
01:05:46
it. Not not the car that he was driving cuz that's a very obvious brand. Oh boy. Why does Apple need more money? Well,
01:05:53
no, it's it was for the F1 movie. So like F1 racers are typically sponsored by a bunch of brands. I have a lot of
01:05:58
questions about the logistics of it. Sponsors on there. Well, no, but he was wearing the thing from the movie that Apple made. Yeah, that's still
01:06:04
surprising. But wait, think of this logistically. Apple made a movie about Formula 1, right? Formula 1, just like
01:06:11
NASCAR, notorious for having lots of sponsors on jerseys, helmets, and cars.
01:06:16
Yeah. So, if you're going to make a movie that's ultra realistic about Formula 1, you must also therefore have
01:06:22
lots of sponsor logos. They used real company. They use all the exact real company logos and all the sponsor names.
01:06:30
How does that work? Did they have to pay for No, no, don't. It doesn't matter. It's a movie. You know, it doesn't m
01:06:36
What does matter is if you're a YouTuber and you got flown out to a race specifically to shoot a video and then
01:06:43
they tell you once you're there, hey, you're not allowed to shoot anything because there's lots of other brands in it. Yeah. I'm just wondering
01:06:50
like Apple whenever they have uh iPhones that appear in movies, they just go, "Yeah, it's fine. You can use it as long
01:06:56
as the iPhone isn't the bad guy's phone." So they understand that there's just going to be Apple logos that show up sometimes. But if you're who pays
01:07:03
who? Just, you know, random company here, Coca-Cola, and there's a movie
01:07:09
about an F1 driver who crashes the car. Like, does that are you mad? Do you not want the logo in there? Are you cool
01:07:15
with that? I don't Is making an F1 movie the infinite money glitch where you just get a million free sponsors inside of it
01:07:22
and get paid for all of those plus the money you make on it? I feel like you might have to be doing the paying.
01:07:28
There's no way that they were using these brand names without contacting these brands because one of them in
01:07:33
particular is like a very big brand in a particular field that I'm not going to name cuz it might give you a hint. I'm
01:07:38
going to write it down cuz I think I remember I don't know. I don't remember a single brand on this. What if I What
01:07:43
if I write down like four different brands? It's a watch company and I guarantee none of you guys have heard of it. Seo. Okay. You can write down as
01:07:51
many as you want if you give me one of them. Okay. Okay. Why didn't they just have Apple ads all over it? It's kind of
01:07:58
weird for them to use real cuz that would be unrealistic. It would be weird if the Apple created shows all their
01:08:04
sponsors on the car was Apple. Yeah, it makes sense. It would feel weird. When I see the Ferrari F1 car, I expect the Bit
01:08:11
Defender logo on the helmet every single time. You expect the big blue HP? I also expect it to behind McLaren
01:08:18
and it's usually right behind. They're stopping. Am I right? And like there's the Red Bull team, the McLaren team.
01:08:24
Like these are all brand names. Anyway, is Versappen a real one? Versappen. Yeah. Is that a guy? That's a that's a
01:08:29
last name. Nice driver. Is he an F1 driver? Yeah, he is. I'm so good at it. Casually injecting information in my
01:08:36
brain. Keep just keep thinking about F1. We will have the answers at the end like usual. We'll be right back.
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Now, the history of iPad updates has been very consistent. We've got maybe
01:10:18
five or six years of iPads under our belt where I review the iPad and I say
01:10:23
the same thing that I said the last year when I reviewed the iPad, which is, man, this hardware is so good, so impressive,
01:10:30
so thin, so fast, beautiful screen, but it's still an iPad. I always say that line, but it's still an iPad. And that's
01:10:36
because it's still the same iOS on steroids kind of software where if you
01:10:42
were hoping to make it your computer, it is clearly not up to that. It's not designed for that. And heck, it's Apple.
01:10:48
Why would we expect them to do that? They make computers. If they wanted to sell you a computer, it's over there. It's called the Mac. So, they're always
01:10:54
so separate for so long. And I've watched so many YouTube videos
01:10:59
over the years of YouTubers going, "Can I make it my main computer?" And I have
01:11:05
made one or two of these videos, too, with the iPad Pro. You know, there's a little bit better file management. I could upload a YouTube video from the
01:11:12
tablet. And also, it had a desktop agent, so I could even like mess around in the Dropbox app. Like, there was
01:11:18
hacks that I could kind of get working, but it was never quite comfortable. Stage manager came along. It was okay.
01:11:24
This year, iPad OS 26 genuinely feels
01:11:30
like they just decided to make it more of a Mac. They just will be different.
01:11:36
They just did the thing. It was kind of shocking. It was
01:11:42
just teared up. Crazy. Like they did all they added full free form windows. Like
01:11:49
you can just drag from the corner and make a bunch of windows as whatever size you want. uh multiple overlapping
01:11:54
windows, oncreen, offscreen, full screen. They also added a menu bar at the top and window controls on those
01:12:00
windows. And yeah, that the stoplight menu for like closing or minimizing or change the size of windows. There's a
01:12:06
new redesigned files app. There is a new audio input selector, which I also
01:12:13
confirmed will work with Bluetooth microphones. I used to have to I've been paying for
01:12:20
apps to do this for like years. Every time I test Bluetooth headphones, I'm like, "How do I do this test? This is going to be the worst part." Yeah. Um,
01:12:26
there are so many things in iPad OS. Uh, the pre the new preview app, you can export to different file sizes and
01:12:32
types. Like all of this stuff, uh, the new files app can let you sort by or organize by showing different types of
01:12:38
attributes for your files. The liquid glass is still there obviously, but I I am just way way more confident that I
01:12:47
can use the iPad uh like a computer. Have you seen the like plugging it in with a trackpad?
01:12:52
Yeah, there's a real mouse now instead of like that blob that was like snapping. You called it a
01:12:57
assist. I thought that was perfect. It's just a mouse now. Finally. This is what I wanted. This is Yeah, this is right up
01:13:03
your alley. You don't even need Dex. You literally just plug it into a monitor and maybe throw on like the keyboard
01:13:08
attachment with the trackpad. It's a computer. Oh, I plan to try. Yeah, my summer will be dedicated between this
01:13:15
and the Android developer Android 16 developer beta that just came out. I'm going to be trying to replace this laptop with one of these. Yeah, man. I
01:13:22
desktops so much. I think you can really do it. I think so. There's obviously, you know, if you have certain apps that you need, you have got to make sure
01:13:28
those apps work. Like the Final Cut on the iPad is going to be different from Final Cut on the Mac. So, you have to be
01:13:33
okay with like the lack of plugins. There's there's certain things that work differently, but there are background
01:13:39
apps or background actions now. So, if I hit export and then I leave Final Cut and head to the web browser and open up
01:13:46
Frame.io to get ready to upload or whatever, it will continue to export in the background. I cannot believe that
01:13:51
that wasn't a thing before. I cannot believe that wasn't a thing before. That's all these things all in one
01:13:57
update just feels like like if they did one of these things, it'd be like, oh, it's a little closer. But they did all
01:14:02
of these things. So now, would you rather buy a MacBook Air or an iPad?
01:14:07
Okay. So, what user am I? Am I me? Yeah. Or am I regular? Am I my sister? Am I
01:14:13
like a like a am I a recent college grad? Am I What? Who? Which type of
01:14:19
person were we talking about? Do you want to Well, I think if it was me, be be me. Yeah. Okay. I
01:14:26
use Final Cut Pro for Mac heavily. You do? So, in the Yeah. I'm a big video
01:14:31
guy. I don't know if you know what. So, okay. Uh I cannot main this as my main
01:14:37
like editing computer, right? For everything else, yes, I can. So, I I'm
01:14:44
the person that's going to have to keep a Mac around. And I think a lot of power users who have specific apps that they use on the Mac are going to have to keep a Mac around. Um but as far as like
01:14:52
taking it everywhere with me, I don't have to do that anymore. I can take the iPad everywhere with me and if I need the Mac, I'll go to where the Mac is.
01:14:58
That's the difference. And the the thing that they did with the iPad Final Cut app was that they were trying to make it
01:15:04
so that you could just do a base like cut edit so that you could then throw it to your Mac anyway. Yeah. I will say a
01:15:11
lot of the demos that Apple does and that any of these companies do with video editing is I don't know how to
01:15:18
describe it, but it's just hilarious to me cuz it's so contrived. They'll be like, "And now I want to add a
01:15:24
background song. So I'll just drag this here and boop. Looks good." all done. I'm like, wait, what? That's it? That's
01:15:31
how easy it is. That's how they edit. They just go drag something in and it's perfect because they had it staged for that. But yeah, I think it's for simple
01:15:39
edits. It's fine. I will say Da Vinci Resolve has a full iPad app that is Who
01:15:44
was sitting next to me and said that? I did. And that was you. And I was next to you. That's what I'm remembering. Thank you.
01:15:51
Wow. Hey, I remembered. I was paying attention. Were you paying attention to me sitting next to you for 2 hours?
01:15:57
attention. Well, cuz I was also in a briefing with Tyra Stallman and we talked about something else and there's some other photo stuff, but yes, that
01:16:03
still Yeah, the full-on iPad app that is an option, but I I don't want to I don't know if I want to relearn. Yeah, I get
01:16:09
it. But for people that are already on Resolve, that's pretty amazing. Like, you can pretty much just use the full
01:16:15
iPad. I'm not on Resolve and I spent yesterday like at least 2 hours just watching a bunch of iPad Resolve
01:16:22
tutorials and I want to try it. It looks doable. Yeah, Vin raves about the color
01:16:27
controls in Resolve. That's way better. Yeah, it used to just be a coloring app and then they built out editing
01:16:33
abilities. It doesn't crash all the time. Is that right? That's actually a huge upside. Allegedly, if that's true.
01:16:40
Okay. Huge if true. Does it support Red Raw? Yeah. Okay. And it also has like it
01:16:45
had AI like cutout features before Final Cut did. Oh yeah, cuz the magnetic mask is kind of fire in Final Cut. It's
01:16:51
pretty good on Resolve. I've seen people use it who I know are not the best editors in the world and it looks pretty
01:16:56
good. Hey, hey, hey, I'm right here. And you're still learning. It looks a lot like Final Cut. Okay. So, maybe not the
01:17:02
biggest learning curve. No, there's a learning curve to learning curve, but it doesn't look that
01:17:08
different than Final Cut. Okay. Cuz it's got the nodes and you have to sort of learn the process of of editing in it.
01:17:13
All right. Nodes. I may give this a spin. I got a I got a seven hour flight coming up. So, seven. We'll we'll see.
01:17:20
Did you see that? Where you go in Narnia? Yeah, that's a door. That would be a pretty quick flight. San Francisco.
01:17:27
Um, the other thing we didn't mention, the local capture was pretty cool. Riverside,
01:17:34
but it says it can do it with any video conferencing app. Yes. So, this is going to be built into the OS. Yeah. Where if
01:17:40
you are, and it's interesting. I don't know if the Mac is going to do this too, but basically if you are on a video conferencing app, let's say you're going
01:17:46
to do a podcast with someone over Zoom, it will be able to record your camera and microphone feed locally. The other
01:17:54
person does that at the same time and then you put all the files together and you can then edit those files together, which is similar to what Riverside does.
01:18:00
It's a killer feature of Riverside actually. It really is. And then this plus now the microphone input change.
01:18:06
Yeah. It's like a pretty solid That's pretty awesome. Yeah. someone that has to like talk to people through this
01:18:12
setup process in Riverside. I am not going to trust this with I'm curious. I
01:18:18
think it might be exactly what we need. I think it's awesome. I just don't think that people will understand how it
01:18:24
works, where to find it in files, how to send it to me after. There's like so many things that Riverside takes care of
01:18:30
automatically that I'm just going to keep trusting Riverside for now. Is this even going to work on the Mac or is it
01:18:36
only iPad? That's the biggest thing. This is definitely an iPad OS feature. is this is where I saw it demoed and this is the part in the keynote that
01:18:42
they showed it. So, I assume it's iPad only. Interesting. But yeah, I this struck me as like on a super super super
01:18:49
simple podcast setup, this would work. Uh the more virills you have, the more
01:18:54
you might probably want to use Riverside. But yeah, I think if it's it's great for like you're starting out,
01:18:59
you're like, "Oh, me and my friend want to start a podcast, we have iPads." Perfect. That is like the ideal
01:19:05
situation for like us in a professional setting. I personally would not rely
01:19:10
100% on it. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. If they can just bring Dota 2 to iPad OS,
01:19:16
then I don't need my laptop anymore. Is that your killer Mac app that you're stuck to Mac with? Yeah. So, mine's
01:19:21
Final Cut Pro, yours is Dota. Well, I also need a video editor. And I use Lightroom Classic instead of Lightroom
01:19:28
mobile. Oh, but you know, you got Pixelator. We could I mean, there's also Lightroom mobile. You could just use that. But
01:19:34
yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. I Yeah, expect that video again is what I'll say.
01:19:40
Expect the can the iPad be my computer video, but this time in a much more like
01:19:48
optimistic tune. Everything's computer. Seems like it's possible. Yeah, we had that what is a computer moment. It was literally as they went down the list of
01:19:54
things, we started when the first feature of like moving windows around happened, we're like what is a computer?
01:19:59
And they showed the toolbar and we're like what is a computer? Yeah. And they
01:20:05
started going through like file management and like all the mouse stuff and we were like, "Wait a minute." Yeah.
01:20:11
Windows different windows snapping. They went down the whole list. So yeah, you
01:20:16
can flick the windows around now and they'll like automatically snap to the sides. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. It's pretty
01:20:22
cool. What a what an age. We truly live in an age of wonders. I think Craig had a moment in the end of the keynote where
01:20:27
he was like, "Wow, how about that?" Yeah, he did. Yeah, he he said something quite funny that was kind of referencing
01:20:33
that int that they're intentionally like keeping the iPad from being a computer and they were like yeah a little bit
01:20:40
more now. Yeah. So you I didn't want to say this in Slack yesterday during the event because I thought everyone would
01:20:46
laugh at me but now that we're with the people that I'm like let's record the I was going to say now that I'm with the
01:20:51
people You're right now now now everyone on Twitter can laugh at me too. Um,
01:20:56
there was one feature they mentioned super briefly in iPad OS that uh people
01:21:02
were joking about in the Slack, but it's serious, guys. It's really serious because I bought my Apple Pencil
01:21:11
specifically. Oh, yeah. At the Apple event, like we were we were in Certino,
01:21:16
we were shooting whatever, and it was the the Apple event where they announced the journal app. And as soon as they
01:21:22
announced that, I went and I bought an Apple Pencil online. That moment I was like, "Yes." And then I bought it before
01:21:29
they finished introducing the journal app. And then at the end, they were like, "I only was like, are you kidding
01:21:34
me?" Yeah. That does anyone use the journal app? But now it's on. Yeah. What kind of
01:21:39
idiot uses the That'd be crazy to use. And uh so now the fact that I my dreams
01:21:47
of using the Apple Pencil to write my journal in bed like a little like a little kid with my on my stomach with my
01:21:54
my shins up in the air. Boy, everyone was like, "Oh, Apple pencil for journal
01:22:00
lab." That's I was like, "This is all I've ever wanted." They know that. Thanks, Craig. Target
01:22:06
demographic was impressed. Yeah. Yeah. Uh by the way, all these window
01:22:11
management features all come to the iPad mini. I just I need to see five windows open on the iPad. Yeah, this is It does
01:22:16
not look nice. Do you have it already? I have it on the iPad mini. That's the first thing I did
01:22:22
too and it was it's a lot. Okay. Okay. Um also notes did add markdown as we predicted last time and the calculator
01:22:30
the math notes in the math notes calculator added 3D graphing capabilities which we should try cuz
01:22:37
school last year. The markdown coming to Apple Notes is actually a pretty big deal because that is the one reason why
01:22:42
I have not been using Apple Notes like as my main note-taking app because everything is kind of like stuck there
01:22:47
in Apple Notes formatting and that's kind of it and I jump around too much. Uh I want to see if you can export these
01:22:53
notes because if you can export them in markdown, import them into another note-taking app that supports Markdown.
01:23:00
Did did anyone mention that? But any if you could do that that's huge. I want to double check, but I think you can because then that makes it a truly like
01:23:07
interoperable note-taking app, which means that you can use I can use it. Yeah. Fire. So, there you have it. Cool
01:23:15
beans. Computers. What is computer? All of them are are named number 26. All of them. We need to clip those two clips
01:23:21
together. We will we will have reviews, of course. I mean, watch the recap video on the main channel if you haven't
01:23:27
already seen it, but there there will be like full-on videos of all these things because they are they are so deep and so
01:23:33
interesting and so yeah, new fascinating new glass. We didn't talk at all about
01:23:39
Apple intelligence. I don't think there is much. I mean, there's like visual intelligence on screen now. So, if you
01:23:46
wanted to highlight something in a screenshot, it's like circle to search. It's basically the same thing. Um, I
01:23:51
like the new screenshots. uh just like UI. Yeah, the new screenshots UI is really cool. Okay, this actually makes a
01:23:57
lot of sense and it helped me sort of understand why the Pixel Screenshots app exists, especially after uh talking to a
01:24:03
lot of normies. Um but when you take a screenshot now, it puts you into this
01:24:09
new interface where you can mark it up. You know, you can do the classic markup thing. Um what was the other thing you
01:24:15
could do with it? Well, if there was text in it of like a if you took a picture of like a sorry, if you took a
01:24:21
screenshot of like someone inviting you to an event, it would have a single button to add it to your Apple calendar,
01:24:26
right? Or if you took a screenshot of some product, it would allow you the opportunity to to like reverse image
01:24:33
search that product. It would show you it would highlight a button for you at the bottom depending on the context of what you take a screenshot of. Indeed,
01:24:39
which is smart. None of that stuff is showing up on mine, but maybe coming soon. Beta 1, baby. Yeah. If they had
01:24:47
announced all of these features at last year's dubdub and then at the end been like and all of these cool things are
01:24:52
powered by like Apple intelligence, I think it would have gone over a lot better. Yeah. You know, there are there are some things in these updates that
01:24:59
are technically AI, but they're not as explicitly saying this is AI or this is
01:25:04
Apple intelligence. And I thought interesting. It is the Apple way. presenting Apple intelligence as an
01:25:10
omnipotent force that is too perfect for us to comprehend as mortals. Like the
01:25:15
idea that like, oh, you wonder how that works? It's Apple intelligence and just leave it there. That's perfect. That's great. That's Apple. Yeah, it's very
01:25:21
Apple. I do think that they have traditionally like used like remember when math notes came out and everyone
01:25:27
was like, "Oh, is this using AI?" And they're like, "No, it's just machine learning." Like I really like when Apple
01:25:32
just downplays like how amazing the technology they can make is and I felt like this dubdubdub they were doing that
01:25:38
again. They kind of like they talked about Apple intelligence at the very beginning kind of shoved it to the side and it just felt like an it felt like a
01:25:45
dubdub before AI forced them to create Apple intelligence which nobody wanted.
01:25:51
You know what I mean? Yeah. So agreed. It felt like an Apple that was not under the pressure of the stock market. text.
01:25:58
So, yeah, it's nice. Yeah. Should I install the beta on my phone or not yet?
01:26:03
Is it buggy as hell? Well, you are you an alpha? Are you a beta? Well, I mean, should I should I put it on my main
01:26:10
phone? I'm mating it. Any regrets? It's been like uh It restarted twice this
01:26:16
morning. Jesus. Okay, I'm not going to do it. But other than that, I'm waiting. Other than that, and it gets really hot.
01:26:22
Like really hot. Is it like blasting through battery? It's not really. I'm at 65%.
01:26:29
All right, I'm going to wait. I'm at 46. Oh, cuz I was a flight this morning. That's why. Oh, yeah. All right. Do you
01:26:35
want the glass UI or do you not? Liquid. I'll probably put it on a secondary
01:26:41
phone. That's not my main phone. Okay. And play with it there. Are we not allowed to talk about the liquid ass
01:26:47
flub? Because it was funny. We can Can we not talk about that? No, we can. I mean, liquid ass.
01:26:53
I've been trying not to say it this entire podcast. Uh, yeah. I like to
01:26:58
believe that like Tim Cook had to personally re-upload a new YouTube thumbnail for this one. Well, people need to know. Okay. So, so they put out
01:27:05
What are you talking about? Explain it. They put out a YouTube video that was talking about liquid glass and the
01:27:10
YouTube play button logo that automatically goes over it covered the G and the L. So, it just said liquid ass,
01:27:19
which is really funny. And then everyone meme'd it online and then uh they changed the thumbnail. So now it's left
01:27:26
aligned and things are stacked instead of it being centered. Anyway, it was really funny. Well, there's only one
01:27:32
more thing left to do this episode. I think you know what it is.
01:27:37
[Music] Were you paying attention? That's right.
01:27:44
Another event means another installment of Were you paying attention? We're all
01:27:51
familiar with the with the joke of Apple's crack product marketing team traveling around California getting
01:27:56
inspirations. Why is it called crack crackpot? Like like not really right.
01:28:02
No, that isn't that isn't that what it is? It's like it's like oh he's a crack investigator. Not like a crack
01:28:07
investigator, but like can you explain this? I'll be honest, I've only ever heard it when Craig's in Yeah. No, it's
01:28:14
a thing. Every year, one time I hear somebody say crack and it's Craig. Mhm. Wait, can I just double check? No, it's
01:28:19
it's a thing. Coincidence? Someone someone asked Gemini. Well, you guys are figuring that out. I need I have the
01:28:25
transcript up. Crack. Uh when you use crack as an adjective like this, it can only uh apply to a team. A crack team of
01:28:32
people. Really? Yes. And it dates back to the late 1700s in English. So, everyone can can say I'm sorry, Ellis. I
01:28:41
agreed with you. I'm cutting it. So, you're cutting it. Absolutely. You're cutting my hilarious. We can't talk crack investigator.
01:28:47
[Laughter] Welcome back. Trivia. This is definitely
01:28:53
the first time we recorded me saying this question and not because I totally misspoke, but Craig Federigi made his
01:29:00
normal joke of Apple's crack team of product marketers traveling around
01:29:05
California getting inspiration for the new name. But this time he mentioned a weekly ski
01:29:12
trip that this team takes. Mandatory. Yeah, it was a weekly mandatory ski
01:29:17
trip. That was so funny. Uh, wow. You know, Craig, sometimes you really hit him with the zingers. Uh, but he used
01:29:24
one particular very unapp to describe the tracks left in the snow during the
01:29:30
ski trip. What was that word? Hit it. Very unapp. Very unapp. Wait, play the
01:29:36
Were you paying attention sound? Were you paying attention? Thanks. Wow.
01:29:41
Layers. There's layers to this. Unapp.
01:29:48
Very not apple. I've never heard anything like this word used in any sort of apple presentation.
01:29:58
All right. Who wants to go first?
01:30:06
Did you write fat? That's awesome. Fat with a ph, which unfortunately is
01:30:11
incorrect. That would I wrote something with the Google play buttons covering it up and I can't read it, so it must be
01:30:17
right. Uh, I wrote glistening. Oh no, unfortunately I wrote Google. I love
01:30:24
that answer, but unfortunately it is wrong. The correct answer is, but Mac OS demands more. Fortunately, after carving
01:30:32
some bodacious tracks, the word was bodacious. That's very
01:30:39
extremely Appleike. That is not apple. No, no, it's extremely Craig like like
01:30:44
Craig skit apple. I I don't know about that, man. That music that was bodacious
01:30:49
type music. Well, you all got that one wrong. Uh, but before I give you the chance to
01:30:55
get another question wrong, I'm gonna pass it to my co-host, Adam, who's gonna update you on the scores.
01:31:02
Marquez with 25. Andrew with 16. David.
01:31:08
David, how old are you? I'm 30. With 30. Heyo. All right. So, next question. In
01:31:13
the first frame of the WWDC 20 25 26, I don't know. In WWDC, the first
01:31:22
frame, Craig is riding in an F1 car. He's got a helmet. Tell me what one of
01:31:29
the ads are on his helmet.
01:31:34
You didn't ask how old I was, Marquez. How old are you? 25. 25. 25. You know
01:31:40
what's better than 25? 26. 30. 30. Um, I think this might be the largest lead
01:31:46
anyone has ever had. What brand would Apple associate with? Literally, I don't even I didn't see a single ad on there
01:31:54
that I thought was a real thing. I thought they were all fake. They're all real. So, I just made up some letters that I think I saw. Okay, great. You
01:32:00
might get it right. Flip them and read. Wow.
01:32:05
Did I? No. Close. I'm closer. You're closer than I thought you would get. IFX. You're 30% there. Is it like if No.
01:32:13
No. You're 30% there. I should have guessed FTX. You only got one right. Next. Yeah. Going to give it to you.
01:32:20
Is it really X? Okay. IFX.
01:32:25
Wrong. Marquez. Uh, I have two. Okay. Expensify. Correct. That was one of them. Geico.
01:32:33
No. No. Not Geico. There's an Expensify. Expensify was one of the ads on his helmet. Marquez was paying attention.
01:32:39
That's correct. Did you look it up? No. You know how I remember this? I'll tell you after. Okay. I'll tell you after you
01:32:44
give your answer. Siri. Nope. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, my answer is they have that
01:32:52
Formula 1 car sitting in Apple Park and they paraded us all over to go look at it. I didn't get to see it. And the
01:32:58
first thing I was thinking was, how did they get all these brands to agree to all of this? And I remember that Expensify was right on the nose cone.
01:33:04
Dang. Andrew was actually very close as well. What was he close to? He was
01:33:09
close. He said I What' you say? IFX. Apx. Oh, that's APX. And then you were
01:33:15
also close to IWC. So, how you combine the two? Oh, there is a Shell one. No,
01:33:21
that's an actual Formula 1 driver. Oh, but Shark Ninja are on there. Like the
01:33:27
the streamer, you know, like the the the blender. Oh, a blender company has
01:33:34
enough money for that. Ninja is not Ninja's money, dude. It's not just a blender, bro. It's a way of life.
01:33:43
It's not a gym. There's the first frame right there. Huh. That's crazy. Expensified. It is kind of being
01:33:49
offuscated. Yeah. Wow. That's wild. Yeah. I still wonder how the brands thing work, but we
01:33:55
don't know the answers. They probably won't tell us the answers. But hey, it's a movie you can watch at some point, probably in like a month. Uh, thanks for
01:34:01
watching. Thanks for listening and for tuning in with us this week as we plowed through all this WWDC stuff. There will
01:34:08
be more coverage of this stuff cuz we want to use them. We want to show it on camera. We might find some cool features, some hidden stuff you didn't
01:34:13
see in the keynote, etc. That always happens every year. So get subscribed to the other channels just like you're subscribed here to see that when it
01:34:18
comes out too. See you next week. Peace. Bye. Wave for produced by Adamina and
01:34:24
Ellis Reven. We're partner with the Vox Media Podcast Network and Entertain Sil. Bingo. [Music]
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