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hey what's up mkbhd here welcome to an episode of the waveform podcast it is tectober
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yeah i am so tired i'm sure you are dude but where are we uh we're your hosts i'm
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marquez i'm andrew and it is you're hearing us on a friday but we're recording us a little bit earlier in the
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week and this week we had an apple event on monday yep we had a samsung a google
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see how tired i am yeah we had a google event on tuesday we had a samsung event on wednesday like today when we're
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recording as we're just getting straight into here exactly and we have a lot to talk about i think they're kind of in order of excitement
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because well for me anyway as a creator there's some really interesting stuff in all three but really right from the top
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the apple october event was pretty hype it's what it's what y'all have been asking for yeah for a long time yeah
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exactly so i made a video about all the stuff and i opened the video saying like all right i'm gonna try to stay calm i'm
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gonna try to stay neutral but i was really excited for these laptops like i this is
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i've edited videos for a long time and over a decade at this point and there got to a point where the cameras
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and the footage got past the level that i could acceptably edit on a laptop
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and i was kind of sad because like i really i like editing on a laptop i like editing anywhere but i also really like
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crispy 8k footage yeah and it got to a point where it's being like detrimental to the production of
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our stuff because i mean we would fly out to an event you would edit and like i would wake up
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the next morning getting ready to go to the plane and your eyes would just be like bloodshot like marquez did you go
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to sleep you're like no i was babysitting the export waiting for it to render so that's what developed the
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travel imac yeah and imac pro so i think you know we'll get we'll get more into it but i think the big thing here will
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be like are these laptops going to replace the travel imac yeah i've told the story before but i'll just tell
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abbreviated version the first time i started uh editing on final cut pro i was using premiere on a
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macbook pro and john morrison from tld was using final cut pro on a macbook pro
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we both went and shot that kobe interview in staples center in la he shot the behind the scenes video i had the main interview we both finished
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editing around the same time we both started exporting around the same time and then we were like let's go grab
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dinner oh wait a second his video is done exporting already he found a mistake in his video went back corrected
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it exported it again meanwhile i'm like like 16 done exporting and i'm like i
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this is this is bad so i had to switch to final cut pro and i got a lot more speed out of that but still when you go
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like red footage when you go exporting these transcoding these huge files it takes a very long time and i usually
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do have to sit and babysit like a six hour export i mean you're like an anomaly in the sense that no matter how
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many times you upgrade you find ways to break it and stuff i mean even the mac pro some days has has its moments uh
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yeah you need to be like hired by by apple or google or any any tech company to just like test it to dress test their
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stuff well that's what i'm here for so we got a couple things at the event uh there's some other audio products right before the macbook pros there was the
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airpods 3. when it comes to listening to music on the go airpods deliver a magical wireless
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experience which we'll be testing uh they're essentially airpods pro
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minus the silicon tips and and the noise cancellation the good stuff yeah so yeah
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so but it's cheaper so it's 179 and they also all now have a magsafe compatible
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case that slaps on the back which is kind of cool they actually quietly updated all of the airpods with wireless
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charging to a magsafe compatible wireless charging case but that's a cool new feature we'll check those out yeah
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it seems like it's basically just airpods two with the airpods bro case and has
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spatial audio right and design yeah and space yeah yeah yeah they've never fit in my ears without the
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silicon tubes they some people i'm so jealous because they fit perfectly in their ears without the silicon and they just run around and somehow it's magic
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and good for them i'm not one of those years i think um like anc and uh transparency mode is awesome
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but i would like the main reason i buy the pros is just for the silicone tip so they would actually fit so like i would
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be totally down for i don't need spatial audio give me the ones that fit at the 179 price point i'd be so much happier
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maybe someday but they also uh we got some new colors for the homepod mini not really too crazy but some yellow orange
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and blue so it's just black and white before that's pretty sweet and white sorry
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i'm assuming it's space gray i don't know it was almost black whatever yeah so there's some color in the lineup now
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we also got a new lower tier of apple music called apple i guess apple music voice or voice something
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yeah it was a little confusing actually at first uh basically just sounds like you're triggering all of your audio
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experience from siri i'm not really sure if that's a way to get more people to use apple
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music are there people out there with like only a home pod but no iphone so they need to listen to music i'm not
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sure i think the final we were all very confused we thought at first it was an extra five dollars just to get siri to
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work with apple music which would be weird yeah um but so i think what we finally found out is that it's basically
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just like a cheaper because apple music's 10 bucks a month right so this is five bucks a month so then it's just
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a cheaper way of if you i guess only ever really play music um when
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uh like you're using your homepod and stuff like that if you're mostly playing i guess in a home atmosphere through that through
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siri i guess maybe apple carplay probably would take it as well sure you really don't like the um
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it's a thing yeah it's it's a thing now but then they got to uh they got to the product we were all
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waiting for the 19 apple polishing microfiber cloth
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beautiful i can't believe it's on sale separately yeah it's basically the cloth
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that came with the uh pro display yeah yeah it's got a whole compatibility list on there that was so good if you guys if
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you haven't seen yet quinn posted it or you can just go to apple site but the polishing cloth somebody took the time
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to put in the com what it's compatible with and the best part is it's not compatible with all iphones it's
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incredible i almost wonder if there's something specific like i was trying to figure out if that's when like
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gorilla glass started or ceramic shield started it it ends right around the first iphone se and nothing before that
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is quote-unquote compatible yeah you gotta have the latest ios to use this microfiber yeah right ios 13 only um but
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yeah so that was good but but for real m1 macbooks m1 pro and m1 max
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so i don't know i guess i'll start with the chips then get to the macbook pros because there's it's a whole lot all
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together and they're a package so uh m1 pro and m1 max are the upgraded versions
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higher end versions of apple silicon i've also explained all this in an mkbhd full video but essentially they're much
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bigger gpus yeah much much beefier on the gpu side the m1 stuff was great it wasn't super heavy on the gpu because
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these are replacing machines that didn't have dedicated gpu so it's integrated that's cool now i get these big gpu
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cores so uh m1 pro 14 or 16 gpu cores
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much bigger gpu and it's a physically larger chip going into this machine and then there's m1 max which again is
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10 cpu cores but it's doubling that gpu again so an even physically bigger chip
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but way more gpu and we're starting to get these crazy numbers like the memory bandwidth numbers are 200 or 400
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gigabytes per second yeah uh up to 32 gigs of memory on m1 pro or 64 gigs on
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m1 max i think they're being equated to like a rtx 3080 a desktop rtx 38. that i'm sure a
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lot of people are rolling their eyes at that point it's just pure numbers right now exactly no one really has compared
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them or benchmarked them against anything and if we want to compare real quick the m1 you know the original m1 that is eight
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cpu cores seven or eight gpu cores 68 gigs of memory bandwidth and 16 gigs
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of max memory so we're talking like double or triple between them one pro and then one max yeah so i'm a huge fan
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of m1 especially in this computer i've been dailying for a while the 13 inch m1 macbook pro because of its efficiency
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it's got incredible battery life but it's also got great single core great snappy performance so that's all good
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but these are just much more powerful chips so they're appropriate for higher
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end machines and the only thing they showed them up in is macbook pros
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i was kind of curious if we'd see an upgraded imac like a 27-inch imac or
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like or even a mac mini or a mac mini exactly i i could see it in some other stuff too but it's just macbook pros
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that we got maybe there's another event coming for the rest of that stuff but okay the macbook pros m1 pro and m1
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max represent a huge leap forward in silicon for pro systems and our teams
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have been hard at work designing a brand new macbook pro that can take full advantage of that incredible performance
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and capability i love it they they basically just redesigned they went backwards by like five years and
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re-imagined everything and re-imagined everything about it re-reimagined yeah so uh 14-inch and
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16-inch macbook pro um really liking both of the designs so the
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design first of all it does have a slightly new shape and it really reminds me of like uh like those older
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clam shells like not the ibook the power books yeah the power books and i think that's very intentional and the whole
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design sort of fits around that so it's cool the footprints are about the same as the 13-inch and 16-inch macbook pro
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um but we have ports now first of all i'm trying to figure out where to start we have ports
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yeah love the ports we have magsafe has a charger up to 140 watts from the
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brick which is very large it is very large but we were talking about how there are cell phones out there now with
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without charging true but like magsafe i've i never really used long term a laptop
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with magsafe i kind of joined right around the uspc all that happening okay you can still charge laptops with usbc
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by the way people are wondering that okay but if you want that fastest charging magsafe is back can i just quickly say with a braided
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cable also which i'm very excited for my old magsafe cable when i was in college
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i was like doing work one day on it and i heard a pop and smelled smoke and the
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cable like next to the computer had like frayed and somehow like shorted it or something like that and i had to go get
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a new charger so wow i'm hoping the braided cable will fix that well the other good thing is
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it's separate from the brick so if that happens you can just get rid of the cable or the brick which used to be like
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that also but like you i think it shorted the brick due to i don't know exactly what it was but yeah that's bad
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news it's not fun having to spend 80 bucks on a new charger when you're in college yeah for sure everything this
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one i hope it's good it should give you uh half battery in half an hour which is pretty sweet um so that's one good port
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then we got full-size hdmi out of nowhere i don't have a lot to say about hdmi but it's back it is always a good
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thing to have because having a spare a random hdmi to c dongle is way less
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common than like a just like c expansion dongle or an sd card like reader or something right there's no like single
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hdmi dongle it's always part of another big there are some it's just like no one has one just like laying around really
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we're a whole tech studio and if we ever need that yet it's very hard to find somewhere in here we have like one
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hidden somewhere so it's that's good to be back i'm we're not sure if it's hdmi 2.1 or what the what the spec is of it
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yet but fingers crossed there then we have three thunderbolt 4 ports
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so that's good no full size usb but there is a headphone jack which supports how did it
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fire impedance well it's but it supports higher impedance headphones now okay which is a very pro
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touch because higher impedance headphones would typically require you to plug in via usb a separate dac which
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then you'd plug the headphones into so not only are you saving a port theoretically if this internal dac is really good but you still have like your
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head it just plugs right into the laptop and that's nice and convenient so that's cool and then the sd card slot is back
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and an sd card slot enabling fast access to media that's what i was really pumped about i saw that slot on the side of the
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laptop i was like this is game changer people are going to get this laptop game changer game changer something they took
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away from us that's the fun part about all this is like we used to have literally everything i've just talked to you about
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other than the high impedance headphones all these ports used to be on the macbook pro so usb is here it's faster with thunderbolt
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4 but like we've had usb for a while yeah thank you for hdmi thanks for sd cards a lot
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we have to give apple kind of like i'm not giving them full credit because they didn't admit how wrong they were by taking it all away from us but they did
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bring it back so i'm not gonna like jump from the rooftops that this is like some groundbreaking reimagined um
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but like we're very happy they're back let us be happy yeah the language in the keynote was really funny love watching
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them just like those yeah those moments of like pros appreciate the flexibility of
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multiple ports just like you hear them say this and you're like yeah but you're the ones who just yeah anyway you did
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this i mean if you want to talk about things that they're fixing that they caused the problem for let's go to the
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keyboard now of the yep the new it's so much better yeah so uh typically we have
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a macbook pros with a touch bar which is a half size strip of touch screen at the top
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mixed reception wasted space yeah i thought it had potential honestly when it first came out i was like oh this could be really cool if developers make
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cool stuff here and if this like starts to but it didn't turn out to be that yeah i think there are very few people
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who love the touch bar right so they're coming out of the woodwork now that it's gone exactly but you know pick them up
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now while you can because it's gone and we have replaced it with a full-size row of actual buttons function key buttons
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um never seen before yeah never before seen in a laptop uh no but there's still touch id over on the far right hand
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corner which is nice and then all those buttons are real and physical and i actually like the keyboard the keyboard
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is like in set inside the laptop and that whole keyboard well is black now which is a subtle thing but it again
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sort of has retro vibes and is a it's a new it makes the new design look different and i like it it's really
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funny because we were setting up uh an older macbook just for for adam to use for the
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week and i was using the old butterfly keyboards like it was right after the event and i was just like we've come so far they
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really just destroyed this laptop before finally fixing it they did everything wrong i feel like to get to that point
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it was definitely like boiling the frog what's the saying or like if you slowly you've never heard this oh like if you
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just put a frog in a pot of water and slowly turn up the heat it won't realize
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that it's boiling until it's dying and no animals were harmed
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this is a common thing because i i've used all of these keyboards for the past like five years and i never really
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thought like every year it would get a little bit shallower and a little bit shallower and i was like wow the keyboard is a little shallower it's kind
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of annoying and then the next year i'd be like oh the camber is a little shallower again that's kind of annoying but now that i'm using these and i went
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back to the shallowest one oh my god that keyboard is bad i want in the final review i want you to like side by side
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like typing test on them or something yeah cause just setting that up like just typing in a couple passwords and
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and stuff it was brutal it's rough i i can't believe they got that thin so they definitely boil the water on me but i'm
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glad i'm glad they're back again so keyboard thumbs up uh and then the last big upgrade i mean
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they did improve the speakers and the microphone but the last big upgrade is definitely the screens yeah so like i said 14 inch and 16 inch in the same
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uh form factor essentially it's slightly different dimensions but as the 13 inch and 16 inch outgoing
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but what what we're really seeing here is the display thinned up the bezels and got closer to the corners it looks
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pretty good it's three and a half millimeters all the way around and then there's a notch at the top i'll get to that in a second don't worry
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don't worry i'll get to that in a second but the display itself is 120 hertz pro motion so it's up to that high refresh
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rate and it's hdr it's essentially a mini pro display xcr it's using the same
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mini led tech and gets way brighter up to 1600 nits peak brightness and hdr
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content and editing which is really exciting to have to not i think john tld again he just tweeted
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like it would be a shame to use these laptops in clamshell mode you know you can like close them and plug them into a monitor because that monitor now is
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probably better than whatever you're going to plug it you have an xtr yeah yeah so that new screen is going to be awesome for editing but
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let's talk about the notch it's it's kind of weird that this this so the the aesthetic now is there's a notch at the
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top in the middle that houses the new webcam it's a 1080p webcam finally
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great another another big step for apple doubled the resolution thank you
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um but it's so wide that it seems like it has more it has enough room for a
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whole face id suite but they didn't put it in and
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to me first of all it's like okay you're going to do that in the next one you're going to put face id in the notch because now they all have to look the
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same and you just waited a year and we all know it's happening but let's say you don't care about that
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you still got touch id on the thing on the keyboard the other thing is the extra screen
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is up at the top to the left and right of the notch that's all menu bar now yep and that's actually fine i the way it
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was described is it's basically you're getting extra screen up there that you didn't have before totally agree yeah
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yeah because a lot of the way it's really easy to think about it is wow the notch is cutting into my screen
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the notch is just the last bit of the screen that you didn't get rid of does that make sense like you're getting more
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screen and the notch is just left behind well so it makes so much more sense here because like in a phone that was also the case you
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know you were getting extra screen and you were just kind of getting your notifications up there the problem was is on a phone it's really easy for your
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notification bar to fill up and then you're you don't have that space yeah you are never going to fill the menu bar
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and notifications or whatever up on a laptop uh we'll see okay maybe never but like it is far far harder and
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most people will not sure so yeah you do get the extra thing i i'm pretty sure i know what you're going to complain about
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that the menu bar is like four pixels longer than the notch so rather than it just being
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perfectly flush with the menu bar you like see the menu bar under the notch and it's just this like little
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tiny thing yeah that is super frustrated from a company that just takes design so seriously that seeing that makes me
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believe there's a reason for it i just am not exactly sure what it is yet i think it may just be because the area
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underneath the display or the area underneath the notch is a little bit taller than 16 by 10
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or whatever aspect ratio they're going for and so now when you full screen a video or full screen any app it's going
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to full screen underneath the notch the apps will never cut into it that's another thing that kind of peeves me a little bit what um it's like when you're
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in a full screen video and you have the bars above the video it centers the bars as if the bottom of the
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notch was the top of the screen so when you now black out the the part with the notch and you add the extra black
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bars there's more blank space on top of the bottom i mean these are super nitpicky things but again like in a
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design perspective it would feel much better if it was evened out yeah if they can move it up a little bit but
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you know it's it's never the notch will never cut into anything no which is good uh but yeah they're they're totally
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gonna add face id to the next one that they make it's just this one doesn't have it and i would have actually been totally fine with face id and the laptop
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like windows hello you just open a laptop it looks at you with the webcam for like a second and it just unlocks this would have been a
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more secure version of that with like their face id tech but it's not here so i have a feeling this is a notch that's
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going to slowly melt away to our eye and i wouldn't be shocked care i don't
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mind it at all yeah i think it's totally fine again you're getting extra screen it's just those little tiny things that
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kind of make it look not perfect or yeah in an otherwise incredible machine this is
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probably the easiest thing to like trash on this yeah i mean it's the notch it's easy to try yeah but other than that
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they're expensive the 14 inch starts at 19.99 the 16 inch starts at 24.99 and
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you can max both of them out with the same specs the same m1 max and 64 gigs of me or yeah 64 gigs of memory and all
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the high-end stuff eight terabytes of storage and uh the highest end 16-inch i think will be 100
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so yeah you can spec it up pretty high i think the highest you can get with like all the programs like pre and if you
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like 6 600 sure but yeah 61 for max hardware and everything yeah um my only other
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gripe here is the name max in a mac is very confusing uh your a-roll for any of
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these is gonna be brutal because you're just gonna get tongue-tied for everything there's a couple m1 max max
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on the way i don't even know what you just there it definitely stay tuned for the reviews of
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these i'm very excited i hope i get to to edit on a laptop again that's my ultimate goal i really feel like the the
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final test in that is just like do we ditch the travel imac yeah yeah
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the travel imac that's it's an imac pro right now that's sitting in a massive pelican case that weighs about seven i
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think we could fit on that pelican oh easily i could fit in that case it's huge but we have to we we literally like
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pull up to the airport with like all our bags and then this massive rumbling box behind us and we go can we check this
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bag please and they're like is it oversized and like look at it yes it's oversized
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uh and that thing shows up on the other side in the oversized baggage and then we set it up in the hotel and it's a
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desktop so if we can not do that ever again this laptop's a huge win i don't
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care what anyone says all right well that's enough for uh for monday's event yeah let's get into tuesday
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so tuesday we had the google event the pixel 6 reveal now this was a mysterious
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phone because nobody knew what the pixel was going to look like no one had any clue if there would be one or two pixels
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if they would have like a weird camera design no one had any clue yeah would we see the pixel ultra yeah will we finally get the ultra this is heavy sarcasm in
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case you can't tell uh we knew what they were going to look like but we were finally just getting sort of confirmation and prices basically it was
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an hour-long price reveal even though they released the price in the first like five minutes yeah price reveal and some cool feature
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demos yeah so neat um and we do have them here in the studio officially i can
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show you there it is and i can even unlock it and show you the home screen there's my home screen i can't as of
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this moment show you anything else but we can talk about all this stuff yeah that we went over in that hands-on
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video so the prices are the most notable 5.99 for the pixel 6 8.99 for pixel 6
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pro how did you were you surprised when you heard those prices i feel like we were guessing them and we were guessing a lot
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higher uh yeah surprised but for kind of different reasons so
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with tensor it's really hard to kind of guess where the price range would be i think the most surprising thing is the
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delta between the prices of how high they are i could have seen both phones going for 5.99 7.99 like a 200
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difference or 699 8.99 but to see one at 599 899 puts this like just huge gap
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between the two where then you start to wonder like where is your money best spent kind of
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thing 5.99 is an awesome awesome price tag so we're seeing like because pixel 5
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with you know a kind of smaller chip than like the uh the flagships at that time so i was kind of expecting like
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maybe it would be really awesome you know pixels never really killed their hardware compared to other flagships and
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stuff like that you know if they can undercut some it would be really really awesome almost like the new one pluses like you know what i mean but um so
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seeing 5.99 is great yeah 8.99 still a little under but it's pretty pretty up there still yeah that is pricier
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so yeah i don't know there's there's a lot of interesting stuff i i guess let's start with the differences between the yeah i think that's fine if you haven't
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seen the designs by now like you it's got the camera bar on the back it's got these big screens 6.4 and 6.7 inches
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they're big phones they've got these these unique colors and obviously android 12 material u but the difference is okay for the 300
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bucks you're gonna get one uh a slight you get a slightly bigger screen 6.7 inches and you'll get that
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screen to be 120 hertz instead of 90. and you'll get that screen to be
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slightly curved around the edges instead of flat yeah and so it has like slightly smaller bezels yeah that is neat and i
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think i think a common sentiment is like people were like why isn't there a small one i wanted there to be a small phone
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but the uh the response from google would likely be we're making a 599 phone and we're gonna
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give you as much phone as possible for that price and people usually want a big screen so we're
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giving you a big screen for low dollars which is fair yeah i think it's i mean we've seen
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with iphone mini like the sales weren't as as good as we were all hoping for um and then i think what people really
00:25:28
wanted it though because pixel 5 was like a great size it was much smaller not like mini size but still just a
00:25:34
smaller phone so i think people were expecting maybe something similar to that at least in this release but it didn't happen so
00:25:41
yeah we just got some chunky boys some big phones the big phone also has a bigger battery it's five thousand milliamp hours versus i
00:25:47
think it's 4 600. those are still both great battery sizes both pretty big batteries so that'll be fun to test they
00:25:54
both have the same tensor chip they both have the same specs other than 12 gigs of ram and the pro versus eight in the
00:26:01
in the regular six which is a bit more ram but they both have a lot of ram then you get these glossier sides on
00:26:08
this pro phone versus uh actually matte black sides on the six i actually prefer
00:26:13
the matte aluminum on the six it's something pixel's been doing for a bit like the i saw the pixel 4
00:26:20
i loved the like orange or the white color with the yeah the matte black sides but no accent
00:26:27
but uh the powder makes me so mad that would have been tough how do you do these do these two tone colors on
00:26:33
everything and like pixels always like love the different colors yeah just put the accent button on
00:26:38
i want to see the green one so bad and with a green accent button would look so well as good as these phones can look
00:26:44
i'm still a little indifferent to it over the whole design can we normalize uh not doing glossy
00:26:50
sides like every time we hear them describe it it's like we were inspired by high quality finishes used in jewelry
00:26:56
and watches it's inspired by jewelry and it's it's very glossy and premium
00:27:01
looking and it's like yeah jewelry is shiny but like the matte one doesn't gather fingerprints actually this pro
00:27:07
has a matte cutout at the top likely for the millimeter wave support did you see the other colors of that we're off on
00:27:13
such a tangent yeah right now but there's a white one the white one at least the white kind of matches it but
00:27:18
doesn't match the silver rails and then the yellow one it has this like almost i don't even know how to describe
00:27:24
it like almost gold kind of like matte yellow on the top because it we're assuming it's
00:27:30
the window for millimeter wave yeah so it's like this matte finish on the top the problem is it doesn't span the whole
00:27:36
thing so you can see the size of it yeah and it looks really bad on the yellow i think i also call
00:27:42
the yellow banana cream pie like that you've left on your counter for two yeah that's fair what was android b i guess
00:27:48
that was before it was like a beta oh it should have been banana cream pie if it was named uh wow what a tangent okay
00:27:55
where was that so you you also get one more camera in the pro yes so we have a
00:28:01
standard 50 megapixel primary camera in both we have the same ultra wide camera
00:28:06
in both we do have an added 4x telephoto in the pro
00:28:12
um which again will go to further lengths to zoom in if you want optical zoom super res zoom is available on both
00:28:17
but you can go further with this extra dedicated telephoto and another subtle thing the selfie camera on the pro
00:28:23
is a little bit more ultra wide it's ultra wide and the the rank the regular six is wide but not quite as wide and it
00:28:31
doesn't shoot 4k selfie video it does 1080. so it's a slightly upgraded selfie camera on the pro
00:28:37
that's about it millimeter wave if you don't get it on like one of the carrier versions of the pixel six at a
00:28:43
millimeter wave that's another difference but that's probably yeah just be careful if you're it is not 5.99 if you're getting millimeter wave off like
00:28:49
verizon or att if you're in the us i think it's like 699 or even 729 from a t
00:28:54
just yeah so is that a is that a 300 is that not enough for a 300 difference
00:29:00
so when i break that down my thoughts are the two things i would miss the most are the telephoto
00:29:06
and i just i'm mad that the selfie camera on the regular's not as wide i love wide
00:29:13
selfie cameras same thing i know how that's not a thing on every single phone was it pixel three that pixel three and
00:29:19
then he took it away for four yeah is that big pixel 3xl notch had those two selfie cameras biggest mistake google's
00:29:25
ever made yes yeah so i i don't i kind of struggle to think what else they could have done to make this worth more
00:29:31
money i just yeah i don't know it's like i don't see
00:29:37
myself wanting to spend an extra 300 because i like the matte sides better i like the flat screen better although i
00:29:42
will say the bezels do make it look chunkier and more like brickish um when you're just
00:29:48
looking at it but i still like the flat screen was that word brickish oh brickish oh oh yeah i don't
00:29:54
know if it's an actual word that's fair um yeah it looks more like you know when you when you see both of them from the top the pro looks so much better because
00:30:01
of the curved screen it makes the pencils look yeah but totally fine with the bezel i mean i've dealt with this
00:30:07
massive forehead on the 4xl forever i think i can deal with some just oh yeah they'll both be an upgrade for sure um
00:30:12
but like i have the ultra wide which is what i'm dying for i'll miss the telephoto but um i it's basically saying
00:30:18
i don't want to spend 300 for a telephoto and i like the size of the smaller quote-unquote smaller one better
00:30:24
yeah 6.4 inches is still plenty of screen yeah i think that's a good i think that's going to be a really good
00:30:30
deal and a really good phone for a lot of people yeah now again this isn't the review that's coming up we're testing them for sure i am annoyed by the double
00:30:37
embargo um it is a red flag it always is every time i myself am not going to order one
00:30:44
until we get through our all of our testing yeah david's testing one uh dave is testing the the pixel six right now
00:30:49
i'm testing the six pro we might trade at some point soon but look forward to those reviews definitely this is a random question yeah when you're talking
00:30:56
about a phone let's say pixel 6 versus pixel 6 pro or iphone 13 versus iphone 13 pro
00:31:03
do you automatically assume when they just say the number that they're talking about the smaller version so if i say like how's the pixel six do you assume
00:31:10
i'm only talking about the regular pixel six because there's so many times i add the word regular or smaller or something
00:31:16
like that to it i feel like we need to create a word for saying yeah it's kind of like talking about
00:31:21
cameras where you talk about the primary camera or do you say primary or wide or regular camera um i think i assume yeah
00:31:28
i'm talking about the bass okay i feel like we do but when you're talking to like everyday people who have phones like i
00:31:35
think it's very default to just say like i have the iphone 13 and that could mean anything from mini regular pro pro yeah
00:31:43
i think people don't really call phones by their name they kind of use the suffix as like uh
00:31:49
an add-on it's weird it's like people i'll talk to people be like oh you got the iphone 13. yeah i got the mini one
00:31:55
so to them they got an iphone 13 but it's the mini one instead of the iphone 13 mini or if they got the pro they'll
00:32:02
go oh yeah i got the iphone 13. i got the pro one so they're all kind of the same phone just like one of them costs more and
00:32:08
it's the product that makes sense it's like a trim model on a car like you don't go around and say like i got a
00:32:13
subaru impreza like excited or something you just say you have it and then you like to have the sport yeah i got it i
00:32:19
had a toyota camry xle back in the morning that was very confusing too i'm looking at them now and it's yeah very
00:32:25
confusing but yeah um a little all better than galaxy s whatever you know
00:32:32
the majority of like relatives and stuff that i ask what phones they have they're like i have samsung because they just have
00:32:38
completely given up on trying to remember yeah they just want the model number and then the subtext so to them
00:32:43
it's the samsung galaxy but there's a thousand subtexts of the samsung galaxy oh did you get the s21 fan edition or oh
00:32:50
you got the s21 or the s21 plus or is that the s21 ultra what which galaxy are
00:32:56
you talking about like there's a million of them i feel like we're the opposite is where it's like what phone do you have it's like oh the s21 you you skip
00:33:02
samsung i know exactly what you just typed the end of it yeah yeah that's that's kind of the way we are in this world but but yeah so i'm i think i'm
00:33:10
very close adam i know order what'd you ordered probably ordered it right regular ciama
00:33:17
regular the regular six but it feels that i don't want to order a new phone and be like yeah i got the regular it
00:33:22
just doesn't feel as good yeah the pixel's thick yeah wait what color did you get black black black i think that's
00:33:28
the green no i didn't like the the only special colors i liked were on the pro and when
00:33:34
i decided to get the six are you gonna say oh no
00:33:39
yeah i think black on black with the aluminum sides all matte black that's that's a nice murdered out pixel six i like that it looks good i
00:33:47
i kind of dig the green even though i dig like the more olive green of some other phones that have been doing it
00:33:52
recently the thing is i i'm a full case person at this point i kind of hate to admit does that mean is that what like
00:33:59
being old in the tech world is using a case no this we are in a very isolated weird world where no one uses
00:34:05
cases but outside of the studio everyone uses cases
00:34:10
that i know but like in this world of people listening to the podcast right now like am i getting shunned can you
00:34:16
tell i'm over 30 because i use a case no i even pulled on twitter do you use a case on your phone and it was way higher
00:34:22
than i expected even among our audience it's higher than i expected which is funny because it was lower than i expected oh it was like seventy seventy
00:34:29
five twenty five twenty five i expected it to be even in our tech based audience like 90
00:34:35
10. because in the real world i think it's like 95 yeah actually my my friend i don't know if
00:34:41
you know chris but we went rock climbing outside and he's no case and his phone is just like sitting on the rocks rock
00:34:47
climbing with no case well he i mean he doesn't keep it in his pocket when he's climbing but when he's putting it down it's not in a bag it's just on and he'll
00:34:54
be on a boulder yeah and i'll like move it out of the way i'll pick it up to sit there and then i'll be like i won't put
00:34:59
this down and i just hold it on my lap then because i'm too scared of breaking dude i'll put my phone face down on my
00:35:05
own desk next to my bed and be like afraid to like drag it because i might get a thing of sand or something yeah
00:35:10
yeah yeah no my case i've just i'm full blown in the world of like i will just toss my phone on the ground
00:35:17
when i'm out climbing or when i'm like at home doing work and stuff like that because it has a case on it
00:35:23
for these phones now i think the like obvious thing to do is like cancel the camera bump so the camera the camera
00:35:29
visor or they're calling it a camera bar whatever you want to call it i like that camera bar camera mountain range yeah i
00:35:35
mean it's everything it's huge it's the whole width of the phone but like that's nice because now it doesn't rock from
00:35:41
side to side when you're when you're typing with it face down or face up which is nice
00:35:46
but uh yeah now you get a case and the case basically like no brainer just just go the depth of the camera bar across
00:35:53
the whole back so now you have like a flat back i think that's fine can i say for this
00:35:58
is a little off topic i should have said in the beginning but for anyone who has seen the renders of these and like videos of these um and you're buying one
00:36:06
the camera bar is not as off the phone as you think when i first saw it it
00:36:11
looked like it was it looked like you could like pinch it up from that like with your finger
00:36:16
protruding yeah but the phone itself is still thick it is a thick phone it is a brick and then you
00:36:22
add that on top and it almost feels like the full thickness that i originally
00:36:28
thought except that less of it's the bump more of it is the phone where previously i just thought it was a thinner phone with a gigantic bump bar
00:36:35
whatever you want to call it i think this is so exciting because the pixel cameras have always been so good and
00:36:40
this design language screams we care about this camera a lot like we
00:36:46
went deep we put in extra space there's a lot of hardware here big camera thing and they focused on on
00:36:53
the camera for a while in that event yeah a lot of cool stuff in there a lot of cool features like software features
00:36:58
they did uh uh faking long and short exposures like we didn't talk about magic eraser magic eraser is pretty cool
00:37:05
okay wait so i'll do the exposure stuff real quick so if you take a picture of a moving subject with the right shutter
00:37:10
speed with a nice camera you get a blurred background but a sharp focused object which is kind of cool it's like
00:37:16
you have to get good at it but like like you take a picture of a car passing by or something you can you can nail that in sports you can fake that on the pixel
00:37:23
by holding it still and as the object passes in front of you snap a picture in a special mode and it will use ai and
00:37:30
software to go oh the object's moving this way let's blur the background this way and you look like you got that cool
00:37:36
sliding shot yeah and i think another example is like it will do more than just the background because they showed
00:37:42
someone on like a bike the wheels yeah or like somebody next to a waterfall where the water had the like
00:37:48
long exposure flowing but the people like standing there yeah you can fake a long exposure too if you look at like a
00:37:54
waterfall or light streaks by cars driving by at night or something if that does well i'm pretty excited about that
00:38:01
because i'm really excited to get ultra wide because i like taking pictures and i really like taking pictures when i'm hiking and everything so getting to add
00:38:07
this cool like little water feature like could you take some really sweet pictures but what about magic eraser though okay this is fun i mean my first
00:38:14
thought was i still don't remember what they called it but the chain link fence from like 2016 at google i o which was like
00:38:22
google photos is now going to erase these things in the middle of your picture and it just showed this like
00:38:27
really cool gif where i remember io the oohs and oz that came out of it were like one of the biggest parts of the event
00:38:34
and it was like a kid playing baseball with a chain like fence in between it and it just erased it so this immediately reminded me of that thing
00:38:40
that they just never talked about again it's often the uh the land of misfit toys with the bixby
00:38:47
speaker and the air what is the air the charger air power air power yeah um so
00:38:54
essentially what it seems like is if there's one of the examples they did was amazing stuff in your background it seems like
00:39:00
um it will content autofill essentially content aware fill yeah yeah yeah so if there's
00:39:05
something over your shoulder or in the background of a photo and it has a somewhat clean enough
00:39:11
background or repeatable enough background that it can identify that thing you open the google photos app you
00:39:17
go into this magic eraser tool and it automatically finds and highlights that thing and if you don't want it there
00:39:23
anymore you tap it and it disappears and it fills in the background for you yes seems really cool uh
00:39:30
i know from my experience with content aware phil and other tools that it's highly dependent on the
00:39:35
ability to reproduce the background well and of course we have tensor now we have google smarts we have ai we have all these you know cool tools we've talked
00:39:42
about luminor ai before just like hey replace the sky and just knows what the sky is so we've seen some really cool
00:39:48
smart photo tools i'm very curious how well this one will work in the the real world exactly of like i have a photo
00:39:55
bomber over my shoulder in new york city will it erase it but like put a taxi where he was or what's going to happen
00:40:00
yeah that's what's good is like luminar ai is replacing it with something this is supposed to be
00:40:06
content aware filling it so it's supposed to be what's in the background so if you have a very busy background i cannot see it having a good time doing
00:40:13
that um i think it'll be really awesome for people if there's like something very my new in the background yeah i i know
00:40:20
exactly how i can make this work well like just because of how i've seen it work especially in photoshop and the new after effects tool like if you give it
00:40:27
grass and you just put like a ball in the grass behind you or a person yeah with like just sky behind him like that
00:40:35
contrast it'll be able to fill that in no problem the the problem will come if you're on like a sidewalk and that
00:40:41
person behind you's feet are on the sidewalk but their legs are over the pavement their torso is over a car and
00:40:47
their heads in the sky like and half the fire hydrant next to them and like all this other weird stuff that's going to be a mess in the background but i think
00:40:52
it'll be really great for just like instagram where it's a smaller photo and maybe there's just like one person in the background you might not notice it
00:40:58
that much after you touch it up but sure um what i did notice is they were all background pictures it was fixing so
00:41:05
depending on how well that does i think the chain link fences are still going to be blocking all of our shots
00:41:10
right i will celebrate the day when google finally i i talked to google about this and they
00:41:18
suggested that this was instead of the chain-link fence feature so they they said you know how we would get rid of
00:41:24
the you know that you know the chain-link thing for example did they actually say they brought the chain-link fence up and they said well we found
00:41:29
that people actually like to take things out of the background so to me chain link fence is never happening
00:41:36
i also don't know anyone who takes that picture with the chain link fence in the front so you just go a little bit
00:41:42
forward you can't though be google and say you don't need an ultrawide you need a telephoto because
00:41:48
you take pictures of your kids playing sports and then say i'm not going to take a picture behind the batting cage
00:41:53
at my kids baseball game yeah i guess i was picturing you like three feet behind the fence taking it through it no you're 10 feet behind yeah you're in the
00:41:59
telephoto yeah okay yeah that's fair well maybe they'll keep working on it i don't want i'm not crossing my fingers
00:42:05
anymore but i think we'll officially put it in the graveyard with sure with air power yeah with products that were
00:42:11
announced and then silently sort of disposed of um that's yeah that's the pixel man the
00:42:17
reviews are coming up i think uh the prices are the most interesting part of the pixel because they're so
00:42:22
competitive but stay tuned for those reviews and we will have them probably next week all right well that's enough
00:42:28
of tuesday that's enough of tuesday uh wednesday we had the samsung event the biggest event i've
00:42:34
probably ever seen yeah oh yeah it was a it was fireworks the whole time straight straight heat from top to bottom no
00:42:40
that's sarcasm too uh this was a small one so it was on samsung unpacked two for this year it was it was very small
00:42:46
like they didn't even have briefings or anything for it not really any new products it's just new updates to some stuff the one i found interesting was z
00:42:53
flip 3 has some new colors or it's not really well not new colors it's new customization of yeah mixing
00:43:01
and matching colors so you can have like now you can have a yellow top half and a blue bottom half or a red top half and a
00:43:06
yellow bottom half whatever um which is cool it's like some level of customization i
00:43:12
it every time i see this stuff i think back to like moto maker and how dope moto maker was hiatus specifically
00:43:19
mentioned that because they said we've never um offered this kind of customization before and i was like did
00:43:24
they say we or we've never seen because motorola would like to have a word with you no it's just them
00:43:30
yes classic classic line of like this is the most we've ever offered yeah no yeah moto maker was thick it was like you
00:43:36
could pick wood you could pick the button colors you could pick like all this other stuff this was um
00:43:41
yeah it just makes it match colors basically yeah but that's cool i like that it's a 100 extra bucks to do that
00:43:46
though i don't think that's that unreasonable if you really if you really want to mix and match colors then yeah
00:43:52
i'm sure i will also say and i kind of missed it but i think hiatus saw it also
00:43:57
he said the box the z on the box reflects the color choices that you make
00:44:02
which is kind of cool that nice touch yeah nice nice touch if you're spending 100 extra bucks they they go the extra
00:44:08
mile for it i guess that is cool there's some uh smaller little things there's some watch updates yeah they
00:44:13
were and they also had a um special edition i forget the designer yeah they collabed with another designer
00:44:19
i won't try to pronounce it because i'll mess it up but i think there's a watch band and earbuds exactly and then the
00:44:26
the watch four series got some new watch four new watch faces uh they also now have a gesture control where you can
00:44:32
knock knock for a quick launch of a feature which is pretty sweet and there's fall detection now so
00:44:38
neat sos notifications if you fall from the watch series 4. um that's about it really for unpacked two not a whole ton
00:44:45
but we did also have two other things this week because it's a lot uh we have surface duo 2
00:44:52
which is um how do i describe it well we've brought it in here i haven't like like you said we've been super busy you
00:44:59
did a lot of this video and you've been checking it out um we've had it for like two days i think by the time we're
00:45:04
recording this um i haven't really gotten to see it yet so this is my first time yeah seeing it so
00:45:10
as you open it up yeah we we saw the surface duo one i'm really interested how people are gonna receive this and
00:45:16
like try to understand this but service duo one was like really sweet hardware
00:45:22
but then a really rough experience otherwise like buggy software
00:45:28
poor cameras bad battery life like there was not a whole lot else going for it it was a cool idea because wow a dual
00:45:34
screen passport slim thing in your pocket seems really cool so this is the second one right yeah
00:45:41
they've made a bunch of improvements is what i say in the video they've made a bunch of objectively great improvements
00:45:48
to it things we asked for things we asked for even and have realized in the process that it's
00:45:54
now actually worse to use which is really strange it's i i don't
00:46:00
really see too many examples of this which makes me like step back and like contemplate the entire form factor as a
00:46:06
whole so that's what i tried to go into in this video but you're holding it now do you have any uh
00:46:12
super quick okay one minute thoughts on it um the curved screen i do have to say like does make it feel like a little
00:46:19
a little less of a bezel in the middle but like you know we i think we all kind of assumed in this form factor the bezel
00:46:24
on the the cree i don't want to call it a crease but you know the it's two screens yeah it's two screens so like
00:46:30
you kind of expected that they did make they made the bezels on the outside smaller but they're still huge um so i
00:46:36
give them credit for that the black color at first look nice seeing both of them i like white better now here's my
00:46:41
biggest issue i know everyone's gonna say this we wanted better cameras it doesn't fold flat
00:46:47
which i don't even have the biggest issue with but and now i'm gonna do this on video and try and explain it on audio
00:46:52
you hold the bottom because the camera bump on the top it's in like a wedge shape
00:46:58
it it snaps into the camera fine which is like like feels really nice and that's one thing that the surface has done really well but if you're holding
00:47:04
the bottom of the phone when it's like this any pressure you're squeezing it and the whole phone is flexing
00:47:11
and like that just doesn't feel good and doesn't
00:47:16
it feels like something's going to break still very thin i feel like even just squeezing it and looking at it it feels
00:47:21
like it's now bowed in a little bit um yeah i never oh there's a flashlight on apparently okay
00:47:28
cool don't know how i did that okay that was my fault uh yeah cool yeah i got it it still feels like a
00:47:36
great piece of hardware like it's too wide it's too wide to make it thinner a lot of
00:47:41
thoughts on this right okay so the new screen is uh same aspect ratio but it's a little bigger it's 8.3 inches inside
00:47:48
and it's a 90 hertz brighter display i like that it's 90 hertz honestly the software is still so buggy that it is
00:47:55
one of the stutteriest devices i've used and i didn't even get to the price which i will eventually but for this price it
00:48:01
should not stutter this much so that's unfortunate but uh the camera on the back it's way better and that's i guess
00:48:07
a pretty low bar to clear because the previous camera on the surface duo was the front-facing camera yeah
00:48:13
and not a front-facing camera they seem to care about that much yeah so if you hand it to me so before you would have
00:48:18
to uh you still have a selfie camera but you have to flip it all the way around to open it flip it around and then use
00:48:24
the selfie camera and take photos of things from the screen on the other side fine it worked i don't think that was
00:48:31
the worst idea in the world back then it just felt like the selfie camera sucked so bad it was bad right so this time you
00:48:37
have these triple cameras on the back a standard an ultra wide and a 2x telephoto which is not amazing but you
00:48:44
know what it's real cameras now yeah in order to take your photos you have to open it and if you fold it all the way
00:48:50
around again you're blocking the camera so now you have to open it all the way out to take photos like this
00:48:56
which is it's minor but it's a little annoying and it's just a thing and you take photos and it's got
00:49:02
this ui where you take photos on the top and then it shows up at the bottom and it's it's well laid out but it's just a just
00:49:09
a strange design if you're listening right now and don't have video what he's saying is before you would fold it all the way so
00:49:16
both screens were facing out and as flat and you know what essentially is the smallest version of the phone to take a picture because that's how we all take
00:49:22
pictures with our phones now because of folding in on itself you block the new cameras
00:49:28
the phone has to be all of the way open which you look like the person taking a
00:49:33
picture with an ipad now yes and you never want to look like that person i promise you
00:49:38
um so can i also say is that camera bump bigger than the pixel camera bulb thicker at least you
00:49:45
know like uh further off of the phone i think so it is a little thicker because it is a wedge shape the funny thing
00:49:51
about the wedge shape is it's it is the wedge shape oh yeah because it is matching when you pivot around and click
00:49:57
it into place pivoting it around and clicking into place feels nice until you realize that there's nothing wedging now
00:50:04
the bottom like i said and if you pinch that the whole phone flexes yeah and now just when you use it one-handed like
00:50:10
this um it's open a little bit and that's a little bit weird to hold now it's like
00:50:15
it's just it's way flat it's already weird to hold because it's way too thick so it's so anyway i get you know into
00:50:22
this in the video and i'm like okay they added the cameras the cameras are are objectively better but now worse to use
00:50:30
is that a win a little bit but also a little bit of a loss and there's also like these weird quirks about the
00:50:35
software where like i still have a lot of touch responsiveness issues which is strange in this software it's android
00:50:41
but it's you know it's dual screens and i'm trying to span apps across the screens um and the one weirdest part
00:50:48
is if you span an app across both screens you literally lose the text that's in
00:50:54
the middle of the screen like a full like probably 20 pixels are like bent
00:50:59
over into the middle watch the video so you can see it on camera it is
00:51:05
it's not a good idea to read this like a normal book where text goes across i guess a normal
00:51:10
normal book they'll do two pages without pages on either side but if you're trying to web browse you you no longer want to bring up an article full screen
00:51:17
because you're cutting off all the text in the middle yeah i guess you would want you would want to spin it and do it vertically and then you can always
00:51:22
scroll the line past it exactly one thing i thought of was they don't market this as a gaming phone but at any point
00:51:28
when you have something that is a bigger screen like you wanna actually do a little bit they kind of do not like rog
00:51:34
phone levels or legion um but i have game pass on here well so the thing is is
00:51:39
i kind of get the idea of like folding it up and you have a controller on the bottom and the screen on top but you're
00:51:44
not really getting more screen real estate in the games of there right so if you wanted to play a game at full screen you can
00:51:51
but if you wanted to play any type of shooter like pub g or cod mobile or something like that you can't full
00:51:56
screen because your crosshair will be in the middle and the literal entire purpose of playing the game is to shoot
00:52:01
people and now you can aim so that's yeah interesting yeah so the difference between something like this and a galaxy
00:52:08
fold would be you still have all the screen in the middle but dual screens dual screens was like it was an
00:52:13
interesting productivity idea because i really like some of the versions of using this device where i have my email
00:52:19
on one side and a web browser on the other side and i'm writing things in the email based on what i'm reading on the other side in the web browser and you
00:52:25
can still do that on the folding screen devices but it's just such a cognitive thing to have two screens and
00:52:32
to have that separation there by a real bezel so that's why i was into the idea but i think genuinely
00:52:38
it's there's almost no reason to get it's hard because they they did what we asked
00:52:43
them to they even did like i think the uh little curved screen to get notifications while it's closed is a
00:52:49
brilliant idea i think that was a really smart move but it like you said it's just
00:52:55
i don't know and with the full cameras they make this seem like last year they kind of had this thing where is this your like dedicated phone or is this
00:53:02
kind of like a companion device kind of thing like a word quote-unquote phone or whatever but this
00:53:07
makes it feel like it's a real thing that it wants to replace your phone and i can't see many people doing that
00:53:13
unfortunately yeah it's tough still feels great still a great piece of hardware i'll invite you guys in the comments to again leave
00:53:19
your thoughts because i asked for this in the main video but we'll also see some stuff here over on waveform like do you think this form factor
00:53:26
can work can it have any real advantage over the other stuff where you have an outside screen because that's the thing
00:53:32
about all the other folding phones is you can take them out your pocket use it for a second check your notifications
00:53:37
without opening it put it back they have varying levels of that functionality some of them you can take
00:53:42
a quick selfie some of them you can dismiss notifications or even reply with your voice some of them have a whole screen on the like a whole like a whole
00:53:50
phone like the z-fold is basically a whole phone on the outside this one nothing you have to open it and that's
00:53:56
the difference let's i'm curious how about this i mean obviously fix all the software bugs and stuff like that what if this
00:54:02
was a little bit less wide and did have a front screen so now you can use it
00:54:07
normally front screen you can take pictures with the nicer camera on the back which we also i don't think we've
00:54:12
tested the cameras yet on it because we haven't done the full review but we'll have to see a whole this will definitely be better than the old one we'll see how
00:54:17
it stacks up to other phones yeah you can take regular pictures you can do your regular normal stuff but i do still
00:54:23
feel like it's not so much that it doesn't have like the full bending screen but the two
00:54:28
screens like holding like a book is still really comfortable and if you are doing some basic browsing or especially
00:54:34
reading like i could see people who are really into e-readers and stuff like that yeah this could be awesome like this is a comfortable way to hold the
00:54:40
phone it is bringing a new form factor but the problem is it's making all the normal everyday used phone stuff so much
00:54:47
harder yeah 1 500 no thanks yeah that's the that's the
00:54:53
cherry on top of the banana cream pie is that a thing not probably not but that's the cherry on top it cost 100
00:54:58
bucks more than the last one which by the way was like selling for 900 off or a thousand dollars off which is
00:55:04
pretty good sign that they're not selling very many um for whatever reasons obviously it
00:55:10
didn't do very well but brand new 1500 bucks so it is what it is yeah i i i leave the
00:55:17
comments section open to your thoughts on that one because that's one of the most like polarizing interesting things
00:55:22
uh but one last thing for this week we have the rivian here yeah we had the
00:55:28
rivian r1t here in the flesh the electric pickup truck from the california startup
00:55:35
now the whole crew's seen it now you sat in it we've driven it around for a bit i've i've made a full 20 minute video
00:55:43
somehow i didn't realize i had that much to say about this truck but i did and that was the most fun i've ever had driving a truck and if you put a gun in
00:55:50
my head right now and said cybertruck or rivien i would honestly pick the rivian it is
00:55:55
sick so fun i still think way too many people are excited for cyber truck and don't know what they're getting themselves
00:56:01
into yeah as cool as cyber truck is and for the people that it's made for it will be great
00:56:06
that is not a car a truck for the average person yeah like uh yeah it's massive f-150 lightning even very
00:56:12
massive gmc makes that hummer obviously the hummer is massive so the number one thing the rivien has
00:56:18
going for it is it's a compact pickup truck it's like a four and a half foot bed it's it's a very maneuverable truck
00:56:24
relative to other trucks of course yeah but i oh man it's fun it's so fun you're
00:56:29
not buying it if you are like a truck truck person if that makes sense you know like i do like that their marketing
00:56:35
is this is more of like an adventure thing yeah the truck bed is a benefit yeah it's not this is not a work truck
00:56:40
no no no yeah it's a it's a it's an adventure vehicle is what they call it basically um so wow i don't know if we even have
00:56:47
enough time to go into all the details about it just real quick yeah definitely watch the video it's fun but like they have every little thing
00:56:54
geared towards adventure from the colors we tested the blue one but uh there's some other kind of adventure colors i
00:57:00
think and and on that they do this like yellow accent with their logo and the stuff on the side so yeah
00:57:06
i like the blue and i love the blue with the yellow accent the yellow calipers the yellow brakes yeah everything looks
00:57:13
so good so the design is kind of like this retro future thing and i included this tweet in the video and i think it's
00:57:19
perfect someone said it looks like this truck is like 50 years old and brand new at the
00:57:24
same time because it has this weird like like volkswagen bus type shape
00:57:29
but it also is a huge light bar and leds and like a new truck look and it's
00:57:35
electric so it's very it's interesting i it grew on me i didn't love it at first but it grew on me also it's still not
00:57:43
i don't think it's a sexy trick i like aggressive i like aggressive looking things and not like crazy overly
00:57:49
aggressive like cybertron stuff like that i'm not not a cyber trucker um
00:57:55
so from the side profile absolutely love it it looks so good the
00:58:00
light bar kind of like comes over to the side so you can kind of see it in the front and that gives it that kind of like harder edge meaner look to it while
00:58:07
still being like you know not insanely boxy and but the front looks like it's like wearing glasses like a grandma so
00:58:14
that yeah that's the only thing and i like it i'm not saying i don't like it i still
00:58:19
i still like the design of it it just has this kind of like i don't know if tacky is the right word but it looks
00:58:24
like it's trying to be an outlet and to me it's like we're from the future we're electrical
00:58:32
plug me in and i don't know like that thinking of it all like that i don't love it
00:58:38
but besides that little gripe i love this the bar the bar on the front
00:58:43
yeah i love this the bar on the front is leds and when you plug it into charge it lights up green and pulses okay but
00:58:49
still not as cool as the hummer that the lights like ticked up like a battery that was the coolest but that is still i
00:58:56
could have sworn somewhere i saw i thought i saw that the rivian was going to do like a progress bar green and i
00:59:02
guess like across the front yeah maybe that was a concept or something but that would have been cool but it just pulsed which is whatever it's pulsing and it's
00:59:08
sitting there green um i've never gotten more looks and questions about anything i've driven differently ever i've driven
00:59:14
the 720s daily i've driven it around regular streets i've driven
00:59:19
the nsx i've driven obviously other teslas the cyber trucks gonna get the same thing but i drove this to like go
00:59:26
get dinner i drove this around like my home neighborhood my neighbor has a truck immediately he was like what is that like the people just pointing from
00:59:33
their cars and i can see them like oh what is that it's got to be the lights but it's also just the whole
00:59:38
electric truck and just like the sportier i know there are sportier colors on trucks but like
00:59:43
you don't see it as often you see so many black silver white trucks and having this like blue yellow accent
00:59:50
truck it stood out differently it definitely stood out um the specs are pretty simple 314 miles of range you're
00:59:56
gonna do you know public charging and home charging for now they're building out as of we as of right now they're
01:00:02
starting to build out the ribbing adventure network which i would describe as like kind of like the tesla
01:00:08
supercharger network but for rivien's oh really yeah i haven't seen it was more like ford passwords like we're using
01:00:15
other things and you're getting um like information based on a different infrastructure yeah so they're building their own they're building their own
01:00:20
charging infrastructure is it um what is that chat mo or c i think it's ccs ccs i think it's ccs
01:00:27
and correct me if i'm wrong but i yeah it'll be just four rivians it'll plug into all the info will be in the app and
01:00:33
everything it'll be like their own first party well-integrated network and it's the adventure network so it'll be in a lot of places not like tesla's where
01:00:39
they're along the like road trip stuff but they're more in like adventure places maybe campsites maybe a lot of
01:00:45
those uh stops on the way to campsites or popular camp locations so that's kind of a neat like version i'll be
01:00:52
interested to see how that happens if it is like something where you're using you know electrifier america most of the
01:00:58
time and they're giving you some extra you know like out in the wilderness kind of stuff but then you also have to think the
01:01:04
super adventure things are really out in the wilderness where like yeah i mean like far from a charge it's i highly
01:01:09
doubt they're going to get in any national parks or anything uh i think maybe one or two yeah i mean like i could see like yosemite at like the main
01:01:16
like valley lodge area or something like that but most of these campsites like you're not getting sell signal out there
01:01:21
you're you're barely getting running water and all the bathrooms in there like to now pop up be a startup and pop
01:01:27
up these chargers seems a little uh tough but i guess those rv campers and stuff in a lot of those places that
01:01:33
they'll give you electric too but we'll see how that does we'll see it's brand new none of them exist yet we're
01:01:39
just getting that started but that's the idea but i think the 314 miles of range is the important spec that's pretty good
01:01:45
and they have something called like a max package where it looks like in the future 400 miles yeah they're they're
01:01:50
offering a ten thousand dollar upgrade for 400 plus miles but that's not shipping it i'll believe it when i see
01:01:56
it okay i don't know when that's going to come out that would be it oh my that sounds great 10 grand for an extra 100
01:02:02
miles sounds awesome i mean i'm already looking at this as a very expensive truck that it is yeah um so like in my
01:02:09
my fantasy world where i'm getting this yeah of course i'm gonna spend an extra 10 grand it starts at like 70. fyi so
01:02:15
it's expensive it's an expensive it's a pricey truck but i'll also toss in quad motors torque vectoring 0 to 60 and 3
01:02:22
seconds flat jesus christ this truck is fast it's wild it's hilarious that a truck can be that fast and i don't want
01:02:30
to describe what i did on the highway in too much detail but it shouldn't be able to do what it does on the highway the
01:02:36
whole eevee truck thing like yeah we we're now at the point where a lot of people have experienced like electric
01:02:42
launch in like a car but the truck world is just gonna be confused like that's
01:02:47
what's so weird about it i did a launch launch control yeah it's a pickup truck
01:02:54
there are people who mod trucks that this does happen please comments we understand this sure can happen in a
01:03:00
truck my grandfather's races pick up trucks yeah it is just not a common thing though and we all can agree with
01:03:06
that that it's just going to be really weird when you pull to a light when somebody's like
01:03:11
modded lancer or like sti or something and they're like pull off and just torch
01:03:16
them in a like a pickup truck it'll be hilarious and silently too it's not like the old like my grandfather drag raced
01:03:22
pickup trucks and actually he drag raced an old f-150 lightning i remember oh yeah which is kind of awesome it was
01:03:27
like performance version but that's like a loud obvious thing that's happening where this would just be like like you just take off and it did
01:03:34
so what was kind of interesting though is because it was on the off-road tires um which i do think they said get less range obviously but yeah 10 to 15 less
01:03:42
road noise on that it's like it almost feels like you're you do have some noise obviously not
01:03:48
uh like combustion engine noise but there was a lot of road noise when we had the windows open and you were really
01:03:53
hitting it yeah you can you can hear it yeah but overall this truck like with the gear
01:03:58
tunnel with the um it has like lights in the back it has like its own cover i forget what they called it
01:04:05
yeah something like that it just had the bluetooth speaker the flashlight in the side just like the extra space under the
01:04:11
seats the front trunk was good i still like the f-150 front trunk better because it lowers it down a little bit
01:04:17
and you can kind of like sit on it um but like air compressor air compressor
01:04:22
yeah but for me as somebody who flashlight yeah bluetooth speaker yeah it's um
01:04:28
like for me as somebody who kind of thought about the f-150 realize it's just too big as a commuting
01:04:35
this feels like kind of now that in between of like i'm kind of on the fence and the commuting aspect of like a uh like
01:04:42
crossover but like kind of want the the bed right like a truck bed would be
01:04:47
awesome it that could commute and be fine i still wouldn't drive in like the city but for like my 50-minute commute yeah i
01:04:54
i absolutely love caribbean it's totally converted i found it um i know the city
01:05:00
question is obviously mostly a parking question but i found it very maneuverable because of the torque vectoring it had a pretty tight turning
01:05:06
radius like i never had any problems parking it i don't drive a truck very much i was very impressed by that but um
01:05:12
parking would still be i mean that's just yeah that's the reality of the city i think the gear tunnel is the coolest
01:05:19
smartest thing that they could have done because it leans directly into the adventure stuff which is the rivian stuff
01:05:25
but it's also just like extra storage and a cool eevee thing and just like for you and i we've both played ultimate
01:05:31
my new hobby has the same thing where it's just like we play a sport where we have another pair of shoes cleats
01:05:38
climbing shoes they smell miserable and you know you don't want to play with stories yeah yeah so
01:05:44
literally sealed storage where i don't have to accidentally forget them in my trunk and then gag as i get into the car
01:05:50
the next day sounds fantastic yeah so this is uh and you can get a camp kitchen attached to it you can attach
01:05:56
like weight to it do we know if those are available and now i think i'm kind of thinking this
01:06:02
because tesla's been our main ev thing and tesla really likes to sell you right off the bat and not give you options later
01:06:07
camp stove you can get like later five thousand dollar option haven't seen it delivered yet but you can add it in the
01:06:13
configurator awesome yeah so it's really cool five thousand dollars is a lot of money but
01:06:18
the package it comes with like you should go read the package it has like your it has the stove it has like the
01:06:23
little sink and the water container but it also comes with adam what's the company of all the snow peak never heard of the company
01:06:30
before but a bunch of really really nice i'm talking like fifty to a hundred dollar mugs and and like camp cups oh
01:06:35
yeah like cutlery yeah really really nice uh struck as fun i would love it i could totally see myself in the next
01:06:41
couple years possibly picking it up y'all watch the video it's 20 minutes long we took it off-roading a little bit
01:06:47
barely it's an air quote we took it off of a road it's off of a road okay i don't we had two we had a day and a half with it but
01:06:53
like most fun i've ever had in a truck i'm a huge fan now i can't wait for that charging network to build out so that's
01:06:59
the rivien that's been quite a week quite a week who knows how long is that
01:07:04
episode it's probably going to go crash like no i'm going to go directly on a plane to go play frisbee it's going to be good
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but uh that's been it for a week whatever this is of tectober we'll be back next week as we usually are but
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definitely stay tuned for those reviews we talked about and for additional videos because they never stop it's that time of year either way thanks for
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